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several families, accusing its chatbot of providing sexual content to their kids and encouraging self-harm and violence. we're following these major developing stories and many more, all coming in right here with cnn news central we begin this hour with breaking developments, murder suspect luigi mangione is fighting extradition after being charged with second degree murder for the killing of unitedhealthcare ceo brian thompson in new york last wednesday, before he began his extradition hearing, which just wrapped up. mangione had an outburst. you're looking at an image of it now. this was the scene as he was being escorted into the building back up and clearly out of touch and insult the intelligence of the american people and the experience. >> now, what to make of those

comments? officers arrested the ivy league grad and high school valedictorian yesterday at a restaurant in altoona, pennsylvania. he was found with the weapon that was allegedly used in the murder, along with a manifesto railing against the health care industry. let's talk about this now with cnn legal analyst joey jackson, a criminal defense attorney and former prosecutor. we also have steve moore, cnn law enforcement contributor and a retired fbi supervisory special agent. joey, first, those comments. what do you make of them? and i just wonder if it tells you anything about mangione that you think may be relevant in court yeah, it's all relevant. >> brianna, good to be with you, boris and stephen. >> the reality is, is that everything you say can and will be used against you, joey, and you for a moment, because the da is speaking. >> the da overseeing this case is speaking. let's listen in right now. >> is there one? well, it's it's simply gets the

inevitable started sooner. i mean, it is, you know, we're going to do what's necessary to get the governor's warrant, and we're working, you know, with the new york city police department and manhattan da's office, and we're going to get the defendant up there so they can prosecute him on their charges. so waving, you know, accelerates that process, contesting it, you know, just provides more hoops for law enforcement and prosecutors to jump through. but we're happy to do that. >> were you disappointed in this process? were you expecting this or was this a surprise? >> people contest extradition all the time, even on i mean, we have people who contested on retail thefts and we get this type of paperwork. yes, sir. >> he'll be in new york in 30 to 45 days. >> that depends on a lot of factors, but that's a reasonable estimate to anticipate. if the judge schedules a hearing within 30 days. you know, our understanding is that new york's going to be able to retrieve him very quickly if he

had not waived. >> were you prepared to hold the blair county charges in abeyance or what the legal term is? >> the blair county charges are still active. we and we intend on prosecuting them, but we also intend on cooperating with the new york city police department, the manhattan da's office. we've already indicated to them that we believe their charges take precedent and will do what's necessary to accommodate their prosecution first. but that doesn't mean we're getting rid of our charges. do you expect any other charges in in in the hearing when bail was being discussed? >> you brought up the same points that were brought up last night. there's a faraday bags, the cache that was found and things that it seemed like they amounted to a significant flight risk. >> the defense attorney today said that the court is obligated to provide bail, uh, regardless of what the flight risk is, if if the case is not one that is punishable by life without parole, your defense or your point after that was that,

uh, besides being a flight risk, uh, the court is allowed to deny bail in case the person is still a danger to society. is there anything that's found that could be, you know, pointing towards the fact that he might be targeting other people or or why? why argue that he was still a danger? >> so i'm not going to comment on the ongoing investigation into this defendant, but i will say anyone charged with criminal homicide is a danger to society. i would make that argument in any case where someone was charged with a significant assault, and there is no more significant assault and. homicide. uh, the. what the defense attorney said, uh, is simply the judge was permitted to give bail if the judge chose to. the judge was also permitted and authorized under the constitution to deny bail as he chose to do, based on the factors that the judge had available. yes, ma'am.

i'm not sure. yes, ma'am. >> expect other charges in this case. >> uh, again, i'm not going to comment on the ongoing investigation. i know that the altoona police department has and will continue to diligently investigate it. um, i was privileged to be able to work first assistant smith and i with the manhattan prosecutors and the new york city police department, the pennsylvania state police and all the other law enforcement entities. so they're all very aggressively and diligently investigating this. but i'm not going to speculate on what might come in the future in terms of in terms of the timeline, what are you expecting the defense to do in the next 14 days? >> what are the what is the argument they're supposed to do that well, they have 14 days to file a petition for habeas corpus, and that would simply be a document challenging the commonwealth's ability to prove that the defendant is the person that the state of new york has issued the arrest warrant for. >> but that has nothing to do with the ability to go.

>> all right. be able to go out on bail to be free on bail in the meantime. so for now, i mean, i mean, how much longer is the bail tonight? all the way until trial. >> well, this defendant now has two, two dockets in blair county. one docket will go away once he is extradited. and that is his fugitive from justice charge. and the judge denied bail on that until obviously, the judge makes a ruling on any defense motions, at which time we anticipate the state of new york will be able to collect the defendant. the other local charges. the encounter with between the altoona police department and the defendant. the defendant has been denied bail on that case as well, which the pennsylvania constitution provides for. when the judge finds it appropriate under the circumstances. >> so your main goal right now is to have him extradited to new york. >> that's what you're working towards. >> our primary focus is to cooperate with the new york city police department and manhattan district attorney's office, so this defendant can be prosecuted for his new york homicide charge. yes yes,

ma'am. >> can you comment on the way and the way he is right now? >> detained in jail like he's he's playing by himself. what is the type of security he has around? >> i defer to the department of corrections or whatever institution someone is housed in. i cannot comment on his specific circumstances. yes, ma'am. >> i'm sorry if this was already asked. i kind of missed the top, but what stage are you at in securing a governor's warrant? and how long do you expect extradition to take to secure. >> so we've begun that process. i will say the judge afforded the defense 14 days to file their petition. so any hearing the judge schedules on that petition would have to be after that deadline has run. so i will be ready anytime after that period. he gave us 30 days. i anticipate we should be able to get that sooner than 30 days. >> were you surprised that he got to the defense attorney? as of last night, he had no attorney. he was figuring out whether he wanted a somebody to be hired or to use public

defender. what was that process in terms of how it affects you? >> it doesn't affect us at all. it's a very i mean, people secure attorneys all the time, even when they're arrested at 2:00 in the morning. so this is just a very normal procedure in criminal. prosecution. >> um, a very quick question. who are the people in the jury box? >> uh, i believe there were courthouse employees from other departments who were interested in the proceeding. is it normal for charges presented against somebody who's been charged with murder here in pennsylvania, to have six police officers surrounding them, or is he treated like a higher risk by the sheriff's office? i won't i can't speak to how the sheriff and his deputies assess risks for inmates. i will say that, you know, it. we've certainly prosecuted a number of homicide cases here in blair county, where there has been that level of security or more. so that was not surprising to see would

you say? >> blair county case stay on hold pending, because he's got that preliminary hearing scheduled on december 23rd. >> that's our intention. and with the way that's scheduled, in light of the judge's 14 day period for the defense to file motions, i anticipate we would likely be able to achieve that preliminary hearing at least before we have the extradition hearing. >> so you'll move forward with it, then? >> yeah. we don't intend on getting rid of the charges. we acknowledge that the new york city police department and manhattan district attorney's office charges should take precedence. they're more serious, and we intend to cooperate with them to the best of our ability to facilitate their prosecution of this defendant first. but we don't intend to withdraw our charges. >> is there anything expected between now and the 23rd or the two weeks, or is there anything else that is left to be dealt with well, the various agencies will continue their

investigations and we'll certainly be working on securing the governor's warrant. >> so it will be a lot of phone calls and paperwork. excuse me. >> um, so i don't know if this was asked before, but it was hard not to notice his demeanor a little bit. he was smiling and chuckling last night. he was a little outspoken and animated during the proceedings today. he also spoke out of turn. is that surprising to see as a da for a case this significant? >> no, i'm not going to comment on a defendant's demeanor. that's something personal to them, and that's their prerogative to act. how they act in court. >> i just want to clarify a bit about the timing. so then essentially, since these things are happening in parallel, the blair, the original blair county case keeps going at its normal pace up until he's extradited, and then it'll just get paused at that point. right. and then restarted whenever the new york case is over. >> our intention is to just place a detainer on him once we secure extradition and send him

to new york, we do not intend to delay this defendant's extradition to new york. and we certainly. and we've indicated this to new york. their prosecution should take precedence, and then ours will follow. >> can you explain in layman's terms exactly what the process looks like to obtain a governor's warrant? >> so certainly, our office will communicate with the manhattan district attorney's office and each of us communicate with our respective state level governments. and it's the state level governments that work with each other. um, execute the governor's warrant, which sometimes can take, you know, approximately 30 days plus or minus a little bit. i will say that those wheels have already started moving in this case. so i'm hopeful we can get that accomplished quickly. so what is your timeline best case scenario well, i'm not going to i'm just i'm hopeful we can accomplish it. all right.

>> we are listening to blair county d.a. peter weeks here talking about luigi mangione, who, of course, is the suspect in the killing of brian thompson. and he is detained now in pennsylvania. he's fighting extradition. he made it sound basically like this is just going to delay things to get him back to new york. i think we were expecting that he would fight extradition, but it was interesting that he said they still weeks did that. they still in blair county intend to prosecute the charges. they have. but they understand and have communicated to new york officials that their charges are going to take precedent in this. >> it was interesting to see his response to mangione deciding to fight extradition, essentially saying that this means more paperwork, more hoops to jump through, a lot of phone calls and paperwork. but we are happy to do that, to see that justice is brought in this case. let's get some perspective now from our panel of experts. we have john miller with us, steve moore, joey jackson. first to you, john, i wonder what you heard there

that stands out to you from peter weeks, the da in blair county. >> um, not much in that. it was the explanation of a fairly routine process, which is waiving extradition and going or not waiving extradition and trying to slow down the process. so basically what he's saying is, you know, new york has to get a governor's warrant. they have to, you know, prove that they have the right person, that they have valid charges that. um, that, uh, you know, they have a, a case that he should be brought back to new york on a crime that would be a crime if it had been committed in pennsylvania. um, and this shall move along. on the other hand, there may be something tactical here. it's possible that they've just come to the decision on the defense side that rather than be in the clangy and disordered halls of rikers island prison, which has a very controversial reputation in new york city, it might be better to spend the next 30 days working, you know,

with what lawyers he has out of the blair county jail. but that's that's just supposition on my part. >> yeah, one that would make sense. certainly. um, joey, i am curious what you think of luigi mangione demeanor. something that the da in blair county did not want to comment on. and yet there is a lot to comment on here. the way he was described as presenting himself in court, speaking out of turn, seemed like, you know, kind of showing different kinds of emotions, some smiling. we saw his outburst on camera as he was going into the courthouse. what do you make of all that and how relevant it is legally yeah, brianna. >> so everyone obviously is going to react differently. you know, you can comment on the demeanor or you could look at the substance of what he says when he's speaking about the intelligence of the american people, potentially. that gives you a motivation of this is the exact type of person who would be motivated right to exact some kind of political coercion

or message as it relates to unitedhealthcare and exactly what he did. so everything you do as a defendant is going to be used against you. brianna and boris, of relevance to me with respect to the substance and the press conference were two things takeaways. and that is i was looking to see whether pennsylvania would want to prosecute. right. believing they would be deferential to new york. but it's clear now that they think that the new york case should have priority, to the extent that it's a murder charge. that's number one. and then, of course, when you look at the extradition issue in terms of whether he would fight it or waive it, i think john miller makes a very good point with respect to him potentially not wanting to be at rikers island. now, here's the issue. there's not many defenses on extradition just to reset. extradition is a process where one state is requesting you because of the crimes you've committed there, and you have every right as a criminal defendant to say, hey, i'm not waiving anything. i'm going to fight extradition. that's fine. but there's not many defenses. number one is the extradition warrant full, complete and accurate with

respect to the accusations. number two, does it allege probable cause for the offenses for which you were charged? number three, does it refer to you? and if those elements are met, then guess what? you are then sent back to the ultimate place that is new york, where they're seeking your extradition. and so whether it's a delay tactic, whether it's anything else, i could say one thing with clarity and certainty, and that is he will be in new york. when is the open question, steve, to you to to the second point that joey brought up about there having to be probable cause in any kind of attempt to extradite him and to sort of get around this fight that his defense team is putting forward. >> there is a ton of evidence apparently linking him to the shooting from a ghost gun being used. the manifesto that he had, the id that was used at the hostel. i wonder if this extradition process getting delayed in any way impacts the

investigation and the ability of prosecutors to gather that evidence and present it in a clear way. >> no, i don't think this is going to harm that at all. in fact, it gives you a little bit more time to get your homework done. >> um, he's got he's going to be arriving later rather than earlier, and it gives you time to get your prosecutor ducks in a row. remember, they were still looking for him when all of a sudden, bam! he appears. and now that kind of starts the clock on prosecuting him. so this would this would actually help them. and, um, you know, the main thing i'm seeing here, uh, and i don't want to step into joey's lane here, but this just seems like what i've seen so many times. the person who did the crime doesn't change their personality and become a normal person when they sit down next to their defense counsel. um, this guy is going to be as

unreasonable with his defense counsel and the courts as he was in his world view. >> really interesting. >> yeah. fascinating perspective. stephen moore, joey jackson, john miller, appreciate you all. thanks for joining us thanks. still to come, a bombshell report from the justice department's watchdog on how the doj under donald trump secretly obtained phone records from members of congress and their staffers, including kash patel and journalists, to trump's pick to head the fbi. kash patel on capitol hill and one of those targeted lawmakers is going to join us, live in just moments welcome to times square. >> that's not in my life. >> it's so embarrassing. >> new year's eve live with anderson and andy. live coverage starts at eight on cnn. >> streaming live on mac. >> do your dry eyes still feel gritty? >> rough. or tired?

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do you know why i was a critic of the trump administration, one of the leaders of the investigations into him from the intelligence and judiciary committee. >> and it doesn't surprise me at all that they would so recklessly go after me and my colleague, mr. schiff. >> yeah. and they also targeted kash patel not in the same circles as you. i wonder what you make of them targeting kash patel and you. why target him? clearly he's a trump firebrand, not a critic of the administration. >> so there are about 20 republican staffers and 20 democratic staffers that kash patel was among who were investigated. but only two members of congress. >> and that was mr. schiff. >> all right. i think we lost our connection there to

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after it allegedly encouraged his suicide. character ai says it's implemented new trust and safety measures since then. let's get the latest from laurie siegel. technology journalist and ceo of mostly human media. laurie, thank you so much for being with us this afternoon. first, help us understand just what character ai is and what it offers. >> sure. you know, character ai is different from you've probably heard of chatgpt, right? an ai platform that lets you kind of handle different tasks and search for types of things. character ai is almost like an ai driven storytelling platform that enables you to pick a friend or a character that you almost want to do ai role playing with, where you can talk to this character about anything. i think of it almost for us like an imaginary friend, but it talks back. it's always on. it's always there. it's highly personalized. and that's the rise of what they call empathetic artificial intelligence, because, you know, character ai, their tagline is ai that feels alive. these bots are created to seem like friends, to feel or

seemingly feel empathetic. and that's that's essentially what character ai is. and i would say millions of people are using it. many of those teenagers. >> so tell us more about this. this teen in florida whose mom is suing the platform, alleging that it encouraged her son to kill himself. where does that case stand right now? >> i mean, it's such a devastating story. and i think what's so alarming is this is really one of the first times we're hearing about this type of harm. i think a lot of parents are saying, well, we have to monitor our child's social media. i don't think they're thinking, well, we have to look out for these ai chat bots that become friends with our children and encourage them to do certain types of things. and i spoke to megan, who's the mother of this young man, sule, who ended his life tragically after he blurred the lines between fantasy and reality. and he essentially had a relationship with a chat bot that was modeled after a game of thrones character. he talked about self-harm ideation. there weren't the correct guardrails at the time that would normally

these ai platforms would put a pop up with the national suicide prevention hotline. it didn't do that at the time, and some of the ending words when he said, i want to come home to you talking about self-harm and self-harm ideation, the chatbot said, you know, come home to me. and those were his last words. it's a super tragic story. and where it stands right now is they filed the lawsuit in october. they're awaiting a response. they've since filed an amendment, but they'll be awaiting a response from character ai, a formal response that will probably happen sometime in the new year. >> boris, and you've reached out to the character ai team regarding these alleged problems. how have they responded? >> well, it's really interesting when you i've been covering tech for many years, and when you reach out and all of a sudden a day or two later, they put out a blog post with all of the updates that they are doing for safety. it's telling that something, you know, something wasn't safe about the platform. and our own testing showed that there was a lack of guardrails. what they've said is they've added more safety guardrails, especially when users talk

about self-harm or violence. they've also said they're creating a new model for teenagers, for younger folks. and and so, you know, this is a start. and i think we've been testing out the platform and it is better in some of these ways. but there are still, you know, still problems. and i will say they've added more disclosures around these chat bots being chat bots and not real humans, because what we saw when we were testing out the platform is we would talk to a bot that was called psychologist bot, and it would tell us it was a real human. even though there was a little disclaimer at the bottom saying, you know, this isn't real. everything is made up. you begin to get into these long conversations and it says, i'm a real human behind a desk at a computer, and you begin to understand why 13 or by 14 year olds can blur those lines between fantasy and reality. when talking to these characters for so many hours a day. >> yeah, really a frightening frontier of where ai is right now. laurie segall, thank you so much for the update coming up, we have exclusive reporting

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dungeons, never to be seen again. >> you have to get them out before tomorrow. >> this man says they don't have food. they don't have water everybody's just started running. it's not clear if they have managed to get into this part of the prison. my god, my god. a woman prays, my god as the crowd surges towards the prison. so it looks like they think that they have managed to get access. a lot of celebratory gunfire. people now just flooding in after the initial jubilation. an agonizing wait for confirmation from the rescue workers. many here have been waiting for decades. hope was something they didn't let themselves feel until now rescue workers with syria's white helmets break through the

concrete, looking for a way in. no one is certain where this red section is, or if it even exists. inside the prison. family members are searching too. you can see people everywhere just combing through all the papers and records they can find, looking for names, seeing if maybe their loved ones are there. tens of thousands of syrians were forcibly disappeared and saidnaya lost in the abyss of a prison that was known as a slaughterhouse. industrial scale, arbitrary detention and torture, all to keep one man in power. they call this the white area of the prison because they say the conditions here are much better than in other areas. >> but you can see it's still miserable. >> in the center of the prison. another frantic rush. someone thinks they have found a tunnel. they desperately try to

get a look inside. >> others look on, helpless, not knowing is agony. >> assad may be gone but the legacy of his cruelty remains. >> after we returned from our trip to saidnaya, a group called the association of detainees and the missing inside, niya said that they do not believe that the red section exists, that they are confident that all of those who were detained in saidnaya were released on december 8th before 11 a.m., and the white helmets, those rescue workers that you saw there have now confirmed that they have concluded their search. clarissa ward, cnn, damascus. >> clarissa ward, thank you for that report. coming up, a new survey reveals americans are conflicted about their jobs, what they like and strongly dislike about their work. next. to stop. >> luther never too much. new

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vote in a matter of minutes here. this comes in the aftermath of a number of incidents, including last year when he tripped and he fell. he hit his head, he suffered a concussion, broke some ribs and the like, and a couple of freezing episodes as well. that raised some questions about his health. at the time, his office said that this was the result of dehydration. mcconnell is 82 years old. he's the longest serving party leader in history. this is the end of in the senate history of any party, republican or democrat. this is the end of his tenure as the republican leader. he is stepping aside from that, giving that position to john thune. he will serve out the final two years of his current term. he has not said yet if he will run for reelection, but at the moment, his colleagues say he is fine. we we hope to hear from the senator more about exactly what happened here, but no doubt about it alarmed, his colleagues tripped and he fell 82 years old. but now he is. his office says he's fine. his colleagues say he is to a string. >> a string of health incidents. now for mcconnell, manu raju. thank you so much for that update. amid low unemployment nationwide, a new

survey on job satisfaction finds that most americans like their jobs. >> but 29%. nearly one third of those polled say they're unhappy with the amount of money that they're paid, which means a lot are happy. pew research center conducted the survey in october, and there's a lot more in it. so let's bring in cnn economics and political commentator catherine rampell. what did you think about what this survey said? >> i thought it was super interesting. on the one hand, interesting that a lot of people are satisfied with their jobs. actually, the majority of people are satisfied with the kinds of work that they do, which is encouraging, which is reflective of a tight labor market. people are able to find the kind of work that they find rewarding. i thought it was also very interesting that as few people as did, were dissatisfied with their pay. i sort of assume, like everybody thinks, that they deserve a raise. everybody thinks that they're underpaid particularly coming out of this spate of high inflation.

>> there is a difference in age, though. in this poll, 67% of workers over 65 are highly satisfied with their job. but 43% for workers between 18 and 29 are satisfied. i think those are millennials. i'm not sure what generation that falls under, but it's notable that it's a majority who are dissatisfied. >> yes. i mean, i think it's easy to write that off as, oh, young people are always whining and complaining about their work, but it is true that younger workers are less likely to be in highly remunerative jobs, in more rewarding jobs, they're paying their dues if they're working their way up the career ladder. and also they have to work. if you're talking about older workers, the the workers who are over the age of 65, who are in the workforce are disproportionatel y going to be people who enjoy what they do. right? because they do they are of retirement age. they have the option to retire, perhaps to fall back on savings or on social security benefits and whatnot. if they

have enough savings. but a lot of them are sticking around because they like what they do. >> we should also note that 55. there's a there you're seeing this cut across racial lines. 55% of white workers say they're extremely or very satisfied. so that's a majority. but it's a minority. 44% of hispanic workers, 43% of black workers, 42% of asian workers who say they're extremely satisfied. and we should also note that the complaints when people say they're not, when they're unhappy, it's pay not keeping up with the cost of living, i mean, obviously, right, they don't earn enough to pay their bills. and these things are connected. yes, absolutely. >> these things are connected. people have gotten raises in real terms over the past couple of years, but a lot of workers are still effectively in the hole from the run of inflation that we had in 2022. and around that era. so their pay was eroded. it's been recovering, but they still don't feel like they have the purchasing power, understandably so that they had before. and whatever raises

they have received have been essentially robbed from them. and that's how it feels. it feels like any raise that i got is something i deserved. inflation is something that happened to me, even though both they neither happens in a vacuum. they happen simultaneously for for a reason. i think the other really interesting thing that we haven't touched on in this report is who feels like their work is respected. and it's pretty much what you would guess. so workers who have postgraduate degrees are most likely to say that the work that they do garners, you know, garners the respect of the general public. workers without a college degree, whether they have some college or, you know, no higher than a high school diploma, are much more likely to say that their work is not respected by their peers. >> it's really interesting employers take note. catherine rampell, thank you so much. stay with cnn. we'll be right back berwick. >> every year, millions of noses are ghosted by their

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holiday celebration after he got stuck while trying to rappel down the side of a 13 story building. >> interesting. so he was stranded 60ft above the ground. that is no fun. and apparently what happened was part of his costume got tangled up in the rigging. rescue workers were able to reach the man at a sixth floor window and safely pull him back in. that must have been quite nerve wracking. >> yeah, seriously. poor guy. i mean, you try to get everything right with the suit, make it as realistic as possible, get the kids pumped up, rappelled down a third, and then you get stuck up there for everybody to see. >> yeah, he probably wasn't taking his time because he was all over this weekend. i saw him saturday. so he just had a lot of things to do. and you know, when you get in a hurry, you can just kind of hit a snag. >> was he in good spirits when you saw him? >> yes, absolutely. as always. yeah. >> jolly old saint nick. love that guy. trying to. trying to butter him up for some good gifts. the lead with jake tapper starts right now.