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and friends for months, plus doubling down on donald. time magazine once again names president elect trump its person of the year, and in a wide ranging interview with the magazine, he talks about his plans to use the military for mass deportations, his views on vaccines, and possible pardons, and mysterious drone sightings in the skies, leading to fear and frustration on the ground. >> officials in new jersey now demanding answers about who is behind this aerial enigma. we're following these major developing stories and many more, all coming in right here on cnn news central. >> luigi mangione. s attorney is defending his client, as new york police say, they have amassed a mountain of forensic evidence against a suspect accused of assassinating unitedhealthcare ceo brian thompson just over a week ago. the nypd says that

investigators have matched the ghost gun that was found with mangione when he was arrested on monday. two shell casings at the crime scene. >> and the commissioner says his fingerprints matched ones found on material gathered in the search for the killer. both on a water bottle and a food wrapper. sources also say his prints were on a burner phone found at the crime scene. but the 26 year old's attorney says he is yet to see the evidence for himself saying you have something and getting that admitted into court are two different things. >> we need to see it and we need to see how do they collect it, how much of it matches, you know, like, i don't want to get too technical, but fingerprints, they go by ridges, different things like that. and then we would have our experts. we would have experts take a look at that. and then we would challenge its admissibility and challenge the accuracy of those results. >> we have cnn chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst john miller with us. john, get us up to speed on the investigation. where it stands

right now. >> well, what you see is they are at a place now where and, you know, we're relying on the statements of the police commissioner and other statements they've made is they've got the prints, they have the gun. >> they are waiting on the dna. they have the manifesto, they have the spiral notebook. that is the planning notes before the crime. so you know the who, what and where of it, the means, the motive. that's all captured and, uh, that's pretty much what any prosecutor would be hoping for going into trial. so what are they lacking? you know, they're lacking a little bit of the backstory. we know that that the suspect's mother reported him missing back in around november 18th to the san francisco police because she said that was the last place that we knew he was living. the last time we had contact with him was months before that, in july. so he had gone off the

radar. police can try to fill in those blanks. they can try to establish what were the stressors in his life that may have caused him to go off the deep end? what were the motivators that may have turned him against corporate america and the health care industry in particular? um, they'll have an interest in that, but they don't really need it. as you know, prosecutors don't have to prove motive to get a conviction in a case, but they understand that juries want to know the things that will help make sense of the case, but it's not a legal requirement. so that's kind of where we are. >> yeah. they want to see how it fits into a story basically. john miller, thank you so much for the latest there. and as the evidence against mangione mount, so too, it seems, does the support for him from people outraged by the health care industry people get into these jobs and positions and forget that these numbers that they're interacting with affects actual people's lives. we need to go

ahead and get down to business and figure out how we're going to help my boy, luigi. >> i think he'll go down as a hero in history let's discuss this support for an accused killer with robert pape. >> he's a professor of political science at the university of chicago. he's also the director of the university's project on security and threats. robert, thank you so much for being with us. you have described mangione alleged killing of brian thompson as a threshold breaking attack. help us understand what that means. >> i survey with a research team at the university of chicago. public support for political violence in the united states. and we've been doing this for years. we have found basically two big findings. first, political violence in america today has been normalized. your listeners will already know that several years ago, nancy pelosi, the speaker of the house, was almost was the subject of an

assassination attempt that missed her, almost killed her husband, barack obama. a year later, there was an assailant with guns and explosives in his car trying to break into obama's home in washington, d.c. there have been two assassination attempts against donald trump. a whole spate of threats against congressional leaders. our surveys find that between 5 and 10% of americans, not just republicans, not just democrats, actually both between 5 and 10% of americans support political violence. the second thing our research is finding is that we are now on the slippery slope of political violence, where the erosion of norms on one issue can lead to the erosion of norms on other issues. and that's where the ceo attack really comes in as a threshold breaking event, because we have seen the erosion of norms on so many other thresholds of political violence. this act is clearly

an act of political violence. the shooter's markings on the shell casings, his manifesto all lead to a political element in this. in this attack, an effort to change policy. and what is happening is we are now on the slippery slope where breaking this threshold, unfortunately, does increase the risk to other commercial leaders. and if you just look at the outpouring of support, even before we've done our next survey, we already know that there is a large fraction of americans who, again, are actually support this act of political violence. >> yeah. and we're hearing it in their own words on social media. you also say that typically perpetrators of political violence are on the margins of society. obviously, there's so many examples of that, but that it's changing. and we've talked notably about something that was pretty surprising to people, which is that mangione comes from a wealthy family. he went to an

ivy league college for a bachelor's and a master's degree. why do you see this trend trending in this direction? >> it is reflected in our surveys of the american public that supports political violence. you see, if we go back 20 years, it is really the case that political violence was rare and perpetrated by people. you call them on the margins of society. that's been far less true. the profile, the demographic profile of these lone wolves, these assailants have just been expanding. and this reflects the expanded profile of those who support political violence in our surveys, whether it's supporting political violence or acts on the right or acts that would be viewed as on the left, you can see that about 40% of those who support political violence have college. some have master's degree. you can see that about 40% are between the ages of 25

and, and 60. you can see that they're coming from a whole walk of backgrounds. they're not coming from either specifically rural areas or specifically urban areas. they're coming from where the american population lives, which is mostly in the urban and suburban areas of our country. so we are seeing the normalization of support for political violence. we're seeing the this political violence itself is becoming more common. we're seeing it break and cross these thresholds. and it's really important that our political leaders don't just try to sympathize with this, this anger that's underneath it, but that they do more to redirect that anger away from violence and toward legitimate avenues for voting. the ballot box. >> i'm curious what you think about where this might be headed, given that we've seen this outpouring of support for mangione. i don't think you necessarily have to be a

radical thinker to think that there's something unjust about health insurance companies for years, getting money and getting money from people who then they don't actually help when they need help. but clearly, if something like this is normalized, it opens the door for all kinds of violence over all sorts of issues. i imagine. >> well, yes. and what we find in our surveys is that deep distrust of democratic institutions, the federal government, our normal institutions, is one of the key correlates, the key predictors of support for political violence. and so what that tells us is, since that deep distrust has been going down across so many institutions that as we go forward and we see those institutions involved in, say, future congressional acts such as if we see dhs, ice, the fbi involved in various aspects of mass

deportations. institutions here are not sitting high on public trust now. they've actually been declining. and so we have to be concerned that this slippery slope of the erosion of norms against political violence can extend to other issues in the future. so we are just becoming a tinderbox of a country. i call this america's era of violent populism, and it's an era where we're seeing political violence associated with grievances on both the right and the left. and it doesn't mean that the perpetrators are always card carrying republicans or democrats, but it does mean that we are on the slippery slope. and unfortunately, our political leaders, our community leaders, need to do much more to not just condemn the act of political violence, but to condemn the support for political violence and to

redirect it away from violence and toward legitimate expressions of that anger. voting is the number one avenue. >> yeah, it's hard to see a receptive audience when there is so much distrust in the political process. robert pape, very much appreciate your perspective. some fascinating work. thank you. >> yeah, thank you very much. >> still ahead. we're following breaking news into cnn. a new watchdog report was just released on the january 6th riot. we're going to show you how this report undercuts a theory that trump and his allies have pushed for years. >> plus, drones hovering over new jersey with no clear answer where they're coming from or why they're there. the fbi now investigating and will dig into the mystery ahead. can't fool myself. >> it was the most exciting time in the world. >> his life had extremely joyful moments and some really

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agents essentially undercover, who helped instigate the riot, that there's been video that seems to suggest, in their view, that either people who are being paid by the fbi were essentially helping to stage the insurrection that happened on january 6th. >> and this report flatly says that that did not happen. and, of course, the fbi has been pushing back on this for the last few years, but that hasn't really satisfied members of congress. and it's frankly, one of the reasons why they had a beef with chris wray and why chris wray is no longer going to be fbi director. they believed that there was something to this conspiracy that's been running around. and what we do find, though, is that the inspector general found that there were 26 members of these extremist groups that did attend the stop the steal rally, 26 of them who were being paid as informants for the fbi. now, these are members of the proud boys, the the three percenters, other groups that were here that day. and what what we we learned

from this report is that 26 of them had been specifically told by the fbi, send us any information on possible violence and so on. and according to the inspector general, three of those 26 actually did enter the capitol. the others, you know, were were did not enter. there's also a number of of informants who were not specifically tasked by the fbi to provide that information, but they came anyway. they were supporters of donald trump. and so they came and some of them entered the capitol. so the important again, the important part of this is that for for once and for all, the inspector general who who investigated this has spent the last three and a half years investigating this, has now said that this did not happen, that the fbi did not have paid employees, undercover employees and did not instigate this riot. now, another important finding that i should add, the fbi, you know, obviously was in charge of gathering the intelligence before the riot. and one of the

big criticisms has been why why they didn't do more. and according to the inspector general, they did not ask all of their field offices to send in and to ask their informants to send in intelligence on this. and that was a failure. and they also provided bad information to congress saying that they had done so. so that's an important thing that i think the fbi really is going to try to fix going forward, because obviously, january 6th was a bit of an intelligence failure. we should we all know that because it happened and law enforcement did not stop that violence before it happened. >> yeah. and andy, we'll talk about the intel sharing here in a minute. but first, just your reaction to this report, but also that bit of information that no doubt some trump allies or those who are sympathetic to january 6th will seize on, which is that you did have these paid informants who were there, three specifically tasked by the fbi to report on

specific domestic terrorism case subjects who may be going to the rallies that day, one of whom entered the capitol. >> sure. >> so i have to say, overall, i'm not surprised by those conclusions in any way. >> if you've been following this story since january 6th, we knew through the discovery that came out in many of the criminal cases against january 6th, participants that the fbi had intelligence from, some from some informants. they had informants who traveled on their own by their own choice to participate in the rally, some of whom ended up on the capitol, very few of whom ended up going inside. >> and the fbi had a very small number of ho they directed to go and report on those activities. >> now, it should be known the in the extremist communities around this country. >> that's what that's part of running an intelligence, a

capable intelligence collection program. >> you have to have informants in these communities. you admonish them that they are not allowed to involve themselves in criminal activity, but you don't control them. they can go pretty much wherever they want lawfully as they choose to do so. so i'm not surprised by the conclusions here about that at all. i don't think it will change the narratives of those people on the hill who have constantly beaten this false drum about fbi informants starting the riot. i expect that if if past is is any indication of how they handle themselves, they're just direct all their ire at the doj ig now and claim that that person has been, you know, co-opted by joe biden or something. they're not going to back off this conspiracy theory. it's very helpful to them, but it is not based on fact. >> and, andy, i'm curious to get your thoughts on the two sort of intelligence failures here. one, the inspector

general finding that the fbi didn't canvass all of its field offices for intelligence from informants who could have helped the capitol police and obviously other law enforcement agencies better prepare for what happened that day. but then also the communication from the fbi falsely telling congress that they had done that. what do you make of that? >> yeah. so, see, this is the really more significant finding in the report. and it's something that many of us have been questioning since january 6th. how could with this extraordinary. informant base, how could the fbi not have known more? how could the fbi not have asked all of their informants whether or not they pretend they intended to plan on traveling, and what information they had about the travel and participation of others? and so i think it's appropriate to call it out. if the failure was in the the counterterrorism program as managed at headquarters, is

responsible for determining which major national level security events require that sort of precise intelligence collection in order to allow law enforcement to prepare their security measures. this was clearly one of those events, and the fact that they didn't issue that sort of a broad nationwide collection from all of their sources is really, um, there's there's no excuse for that. that's what the intelligence collection program exists to do to collect that information and use it to inform decision makers as to how to protect the country, or in this case, the capitol. so they were unable to do that adequately without having taken that step. the fact that they misrepresented to congress that they had done it. it seems just from my brief reading of the recommendations, there was a lot of confusion and disorganization around the preparation for this event. and i think that some executives thought it had actually happened. they were wrong. they didn't know that those calls had not been made, and that

collection hadn't been rounded up. so again, these were these were mistakes, not intentional acts. we're not trying to hang anybody out to dry here. but these are all areas in which the fbi really needs to focus and make sure they don't make those kind of mistakes in the future. yeah, they certainly do. and we'll see, andy, and maybe you can quickly comment on this as we're looking towards a new era at the fbi, do you expect that they will be taking the lessons learned from this and and doing something with it? do you have any concerns there? well, i'm confident that fbi people who do this work will will double their efforts to make sure that it is done perfectly the next time. and every time after that. i'm confident in that. but i am concerned about some of the comments that kash patel has made. if he is confirmed as fbi director, he's made a lot of comments about reducing the

size of headquarters and getting rid of people at headquarters and sending them all out to the field. this is precisely the sort of mistake that can happen when no one in the organization has an adequate view of the entire threat picture the entire country. and that's why the analytical capability and the investigative oversight was centralized and headquarters for these national security matters, not for criminal matters, but for national security matters. in the aftermath of nine over 11, because we realized this was not having that vision is part of why we didn't see nine over 11 coming. well here january 6th, we had the ability to do it. we just didn't do it and we didn't see the attack coming. so kash patel is not going to solve any problems by taking headquarters resources and sending them elsewhere. he's actually going to make america less safe. >> yeah. real quick. one quick thing i wanted to add to what andy is raising the question of whether the fbi will still be

focusing on these extremist groups, which are largely let's, let's, let's say plainly they are mostly conservative leaning, whether that is is going to be continued in the new administration. that's a big question as well. are they even going to be interested in what the proud boys are doing at the three percenters? we don't know, because that is that is certainly part of the base of of donald trump's support. >> yeah, it's such a good point. and chris wray highlighted the threat of these groups. and yet you expect based on rhetoric, that that may not be shared. if kash patel is the incoming fbi director. evan, thank you so much for the great reporting. andrew mccabe, thank you so much to you as well. coming up, a mystery in the skies over new jersey. just bizarre stuff. clusters of drones spotted flying overhead for weeks now. but where are they coming from? what are they looking at? here with the pentagon is saying next welcome to times square that's

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that belichick, an nfl legend, would leave the league to go coach college in north carolina? >> boris, i have to say i was stunned. i was stunned. i mean, you're talking about arguably the greatest coach in nfl history, winning six super bowls as a head coach in new england. and you know, i know that coach belichick was a you know one was chasing the all time wins record held by don shula. but at the end of the day he's a coach. he's a teacher. he always wanted to coach. and i think the prospects of him becoming a head coach in the nfl were minimal, and he found the right opportunity in chapel hill at the university of north carolina. >> why would you say that the opportunities in the nfl were minimal for someone who, as you said, was only like 14 wins away from surpassing the great dolphins legend don shula as the winningest coach of all time. >> yeah, i think the nfl landscape has changed a lot. and the key word i like to use here is collaborate. you see a

lot of collaborative effort in the nfl now between, you know, owner and a coach, general manager and a coach. and we know that bill coach bill belichick during his tenure with the new england patriots, he had total control over the organization. he was wildly successful. but it seems like these these teams in the nfl have kind of shifted gears. and they want to collaborate more. well, in the collegiate level, the head coach gives you that type of power. and so bill belichick finds himself now at the university of north carolina yeah. >> and usc is a six and six team. they haven't won a conference title since 1980. and obviously there's a personal connection there for him. his father was a coach there. but it's not one of the perennial champs in college sports and in college football. and also with nil and the transfer portal, it seems like it's a challenging gig. what do you make of that?

>> yeah. >> listen, we know that unc is a blueblood in college basketball. but listen, here's what where the college football landscape has changed. it's more like the pro level. now, when you talk about the nil and what they call these collectives, that's like the salary cap in the nfl. the transfer portal is more like free agency in the nfl. so bill belichick is going to go down there at the university of north carolina and build an nfl type program. he's going to hire a general manager. he's going to have a staff. and so he's going to be able to go in there in the transfer portal and go get players and recruit players out of high school. and think about this because you're a young man, 17, 18 years old, you have an opportunity to be coached by what many people consider the greatest coach football coach in history. i think that's going to be a very appealing to a lot of young men. >> yeah, i, for one, am excited to watch some of those press conferences and those terse answers he gives. there's nothing like watching bill belichick try to talk to reporters. damien, woody, thank

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