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intelligence community. and later, what i found for 60 minutes on the new frontier between artificial intelligence and education. how a.i. could one day change the way every child in every school in america is taught. good evening. thanks for joining us. a week and a day since the execution style killing of unitedhealthcare ceo brian thompson on a midtown manhattan sidewalk, prosecutors have reportedly taken a key step. according to abc news, prosecutors for the manhattan district attorney's office have begun presenting evidence to a grand jury against the suspect. luigi mangione. he remains in pennsylvania, where he was arrested on monday. determined, according to his lawyer, to fight extradition back to new york. now, the district attorney's office, citing grand jury secrecy, had no comment on abc's reporting separately. cnn has learned that new york authorities have executed as many as three search warrants in the investigation so far, including two that deal with the backpack found in central park and that burner phone discovered in what

was believed to be the first part of the killer's getaway route. now, as we reported, police say forensic evidence ties the gun mangione was caught with to three shell casings found at the scene. then there's the fingerprint evidence. >> our crime lab to match the person of interest. fingerprints with fingerprints that we found on both the water bottle and the kind bar near the scene of. >> well, in other words, what would seem to be two kinds of hard physical evidence tying luigi mangione to the gun used to kill brian thompson and connecting him to the crime scene. not surprisingly, mangione defense attorney has a different view. >> those two sciences, in and of themselves, have come under some criticism in the past relative to their credibility, their truthfulness, their accuracy. however you want to do it, he says. >> he wants to see the evidence himself. we don't know whether a grand jury has seen it, but last night on the program, it

was already enough for jeffrey toobin, who joins us shortly to proclaim the case against mangione, in his words, open and shut manhattan da alvin bragg said he is confident they have their man obviously, this is a profound, profoundly disturbing, as we've alleged murder and we would not charge the person. >> we didn't think it was the person. and we're prepared to go forward. >> well, that said, if prosecutors are seen, as john miller said, making a movie, that film is, to borrow the analogy, still something missing. a ton of footage. we know, for example, that he had a lot of cash on him when he was caught $8,000 plus another 2000 worth in foreign currency. we don't know how he planned to use it. we know he had a laptop open at mcdonald's in altoona, pennsylvania, where he was apprehended. we don't know what he was looking at on it. and to the point of the foreign currency. was he looking at escape routes or non-extradition countries researching a target or something else? we know from san francisco police that his mother reported him missing

last month, but had not heard from him since july, and we know less about what he was doing over that period in the months leading up to it. but there's new reporting tonight in the new york times about some of that time period. according to them, on april 27th, he left a phone message from japan with someone he had met traveling. i need some time to zen out, he reportedly said in that phone message. the story continued in the times. it would be one of his last communications before he abruptly cut ties with a wide range of friends and family, who eventually set out on a desperate hunt to track him down. we know from his own social media posting, he railed against modern japanese society, calling it, quote, an evolutionary mismatch for the human animal. now, we don't know whether this was part of some process of him becoming disillusioned with humanity, but the new york times reporting is suggestive. in general. the times piece mentions members of his book club in hawaii had become upset at his choice of reading material, quoting now, they drifted away after a discussion about whether to read the writings of ted kaczynski, the

so-called unabomber, who had carried out a series of bombings over a period of 17 years beginning in 1978, with the goal of calling attention to the cost to humanity of a world built around technology. as to his views on the health care industry, we know he spoke of back problems and brain fog and other ailments, and according to police writings on him, when captured, railed against the system and saying, quote, frankly, these parasites simply had it coming. as for the killing itself, police say mangione asked in another passage, what could be better than, quote, to kill the ceo at his own beancounting conference? now, what we don't know is why he chose brian thompson in particular. late today, new york police department chief and detective joseph kenny had this to say. >> we have no indication that he was ever a client of unitedhealthcare, but he does make mention that it is the fifth largest corporation in america, which would make it the largest healthcare organization in america. so that's possibly why he targeted that. that company, mangione, will be back in court first on december 23rd for a

preliminary hearing, then on the 30th to demand the court show cause for detaining him and to argue for bail. >> joining us now, the aforementioned jeffrey toobin, also cnn chief law enforcement intelligence analyst, john miller, former deputy commissioner with the nypd and former fbi deputy director andrew mccabe. so, john, what else can you tell us about these search warrants? >> well, i think what they're looking at in terms of search warrants is when he was arrested in pennsylvania. they've got a laptop computer he was looking at, as you mentioned. he's got a phone with him. and then there's the burner phone in new york to get to seize them. you know, they they have them in the. >> they need a search warrant. >> but to get into them, to get their contents, that's what you need the search warrant for. and you know, they're going to be really curious to see. well, as he was on the run, what was he looking at? >> he had also referenced in the so-called manifesto or in this writing that he addressed to feds. as you pointed out last night, that his devices were essentially locked down. >> he said, my technology is pretty locked down. but, you

know, if you look in the spiral notebook or here, you know, you can see most of my planning. so and he said lockdown because, you know, i'm an engineer, so there's not much in there for you. that's kind of cryptic but what is what does he mean locked down. like you're going to have a lot of trouble getting into them or locked down. meaning there's just engineering stuff in there and not the clues you're looking for. the only way to find out is to get in. >> and jeff, so prosecutors, according to abc news, have convened a grand jury. they've been presenting evidence. what what does that look like? >> the. this is an extraordinary case, but that's an ordinary procedure for for a murder case. the way a case works in state court is in order to bring a serious charge like this, you have to have a grand jury issue an indictment. and they and evidence is presented, and it looks sort of like a trial, except there's only one side represented. there's no cross-examination in a grand jury. the prosecutor prosecution puts forth evidence. they don't put forth

all their evidence. and then the grand jury votes to issue an indictment or not. and then it moves to a trial, which is, of course, public and more familiar. and it's an adversary proceeding. >> andrew. i mean, as someone who worked for the fbi for a long time, what stands out to you still about what? we don't know. i mean, according to the nypd official told nbc, there's no indication he was a client of unitedhealthcare. i mean, is that significant from an investigative standpoint? >> i think it is. i think many of us kind of jumped to these potential narratives in the immediate aftermath of the crime, that this was likely, you know, a disgruntled, um, insured person or customer of the company who maybe had suffered or had a family member who had suffered because of the company's decisions about denying coverage or something like that. that doesn't appear to be the case here at all. he certainly seems to have had his eye on the health care sector to some degree. his comments about the earnings of unitedhealthcare may be making them a target, but it doesn't seem that he had any specific

animus for brian thompson specifically. but maybe he was drawn to him more because of his role in this large, profitable, uh, health insurance company. as for the rest of the picture, there's really a lot we don't know about his motive. now, a lot of that isn't necessary for the prosecution. you don't have to prove motive as an element of this crime of murder. you just have to prove that he did it intentionally. the video goes a long way to proving that in and of itself. but i think to adequately assess the threat of this sort of violence targeting people like brian thompson or other ceos or other corporate representatives, i think it's important that we understand as much as we can about this person's progression towards this very distinctive act of political violence, essentially, is what this was, even though we don't think of it as like traditionally democrat republican politics. this was clearly an act of violence meant to change the

policies and practices of and in this case of this industry and this company. >> john was was his biggest mistake, spending ten days in new york city that allowed all these photographs to be taken. i mean, in the cab in the hostel. um, i mean, if he had just come to the city last minute, would he have had more of a chance to get away? do you think? >> you know, he wasn't from new york? he wasn't familiar with the target zone. he had to do his reconnaissance. um, i would say he was pretty careful. if he has a biggest mistake. it was in the encounter with the woman at the counter where he was checking into the youth hostel. youth hostel where you could pass with a fake driver's license, pay in cash, a very disciplined. when he pulled down the mask and they got those two pictures where you could see his face. um, that's the reason somebody in pennsylvania said, i think that's the guy. do you think he. >> i mean, you know, there are a lot of people were thinking, well, he would toss away the gun. nobody wants to be caught

with a gun. do you think he was planning something else? do you think he was planning to kill himself? do you think he just wanted to keep his options open? >> so one of the reasons that it's important to get into that computer is to find out. what was he looking at at that moment in that place? you know, he'd been to philadelphia, he'd been to pittsburgh. but there he was in altoona, staying in a motel, eating in a mcdonald's, and with his head buried in a laptop computer. was he researching? the next target is the other health care executive on there. was he saying, which countries don't have extradition treaties with the united states? where could i go where they couldn't? >> or was he following the investigation and the coverage? >> or was he reading the newspapers about himself? >> i think there's another thing that's really important about this investigation, which is how did he know that brian thompson was going to be at that side entrance, not the main entrance to the new york hilton. the side entrance to the new york hilton at 645 in the morning. and that's important because there are a

lot of executives in this country and a lot of people in this country who are now afraid that they're going to be stalked like this. and how he found out where brian thompson was going to be at this, which is also based on the knowledge that he wasn't staying at the hotel, not at the hotel all that bad, like how easy it is or how difficult it is to locate the whereabouts and schedules of prominent people. that's really important. >> andrew, what do you make of the new details from the new york times about his travels, his post earlier this year, and the going silent on his family, you know, since since last july. >> it's really interesting. i mean, i think if you look more broadly at where he comes from, his family background, his kind of life of privilege and higher education and all that stuff to where he ended up assassinating someone on the streets of new york city, like massive gulf there. right. and i think that if you within that context, if you look at the trip to asia and the kind of dropping off the map to me that identifies

the period in which somehow this young man slipped, right. he parted from his upbringing, his education, his friend group, his job, and he went down this path that led him to brutally taking the life of someone he didn't even know in a very public way. and so i do think it's important to drill down on that period to understand what was it. it's, you know, in investigating terrorism cases, we used to call this the path to radicalization, even after somebody had been convicted or jailed or whatever. we wanted to understand how they got to that point where they had become a radicalized terrorist. it's kind of the same thing with him. he's not a terrorist. but you want to know what got him to this point so far away from where he came from? >> and we should point out all of this is these are alleged crimes. at this point, he has been convicted. but as we said, based on the reporting from abc, a grand jury has been

convened. jeff toobin, andrew mccabe, john miller is going to stick around. thank you guys. appreciate it. next we're going to talk about the lights in night skies lately over new jersey, including sensitive military installations. you can see them some of the drones up there. the latest on these rather quite large drones, some of them what the government is saying about them and what it isn't. and later, another remarkable piece of reporting from cnn's clarissa ward in syria, what she uncovered in a military hospital with people searching for missing loved ones i never imagined this moment would come. >> we sat down for a cnn exclusive with the man leading the offensive. >> this regime is dead. >> the russians admit that they were surprised by the events quickly unfolding inside syria. >> we go in to get a closer look. i'm a civilian, he says. i'm a civilian. after three months in a windowless cell, he can finally see the sky. >> you can see people are so happy, but at the same time just exacerbates the fears about what might be coming

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it to. it's one of dozens that have been spotted recently in the skies over new jersey and new york. and the new york area, including a military research facility at the around the trump property in bedminster as well. today, the white house sought to downplay rumors we have no evidence at this time that the reported drone sightings pose a national security or a public safety threat, or have a foreign nexus security officials held a private briefing today for members of congress, some of whom are demanding more in the way of answers. >> i've been a little frustrated. there hasn't been enough transparency letting people know what's happening. it's allowing a lot of potentially misinformation to spread, or at least fear. we should know what's going on over our skies. and i've asked for a lot more information. >> they should be shot down if necessary because they're flying over sensitive areas. whether it's planes that may be jeopardized or security at

military bases, we ought to do a much better job. the biden administration ought to be acting more aggressively against these drones. >> well, senator booker, who you heard there a moment ago, along with his new jersey and new york senate colleagues, sent a letter today to the heads of dhs, fbi and faa requesting a briefing on the matter. more on this all now from cnn's omar jimenez so people have been seeing drones. >> don't worry. this is one of ours. but we've been going around talking to people in this northern new jersey area. and really, almost everyone you talk to has either seen one or knows someone who's seen one. >> what are they? who's sending them up there? what are they doing there? why doesn't anybody know what they are? you know. and why new jersey? it didn't sound like an airplane, which is why i went out and looked at it. >> it was loud, but not any louder than the airplanes, because the airplanes are loud. >> yeah, the jets are loud. >> and there were jets flying over at the same time. they actually flew in a circle around our building, both of them. and then across and then

disappeared. it still could be somebody playing a trick, but which is unlikely because they are so big. yeah, yeah. >> it's not a ten year old flying it, you know. yeah. >> i'll just let the people that are trying to figure it out. figure it out. >> but to this point, no one has, at least publicly. the fbi is now investigating weeks of reported drone sightings over new jersey. that's according to a document given to state and local officials. as a growing number of people report seeing drones, some described as six feet in diameter, flying in the skies, and there have been questions about when they first started popping up. reports seem to vary, but the picatinny arsenal, which is a military installation in northern new jersey, has confirmed sightings in the area going back to november 13th and countrywide. this isn't the first time mysterious drones or something like it have been spotted around military installations, so specifically langley air force base. >> did experience incursions of unauthorized unmanned aerial

systems last year. in december 2023, the number of those uas incursions did fluctuate on any given day, but they didn't appear to exhibit any hostile intent. >> and while with the new jersey reported sightings, the white house says many have actually been manned aircraft. some witnesses disagree. >> they'll just change direction. like go from like 90 to like 270 degrees, just like fly in different directions. and planes obviously can't do that. nothing during the day, just completely at night. it's very it's odd. >> and public officials are starting to get frustrated. >> they're creating so much fear and uneasiness in the public. >> there's no excuse for us not to know at this point. now is not the time to mess around. it is a time for action. we're past the point of let's pretend it's not a big deal and try to keep everybody calm while we figure it out. it's really concerning, and quite frankly, it's not acceptable. >> three times now, the department of homeland security and the fbi are throwing a little bit of cold water on this. >> they said in a joint statement that based on what they've seen so far, they

don't see any national security threat or anything like that, but also that they are investigating whether these reported drone sightings are actually drones or whether they're being mistakenly identified for manned aircraft. and they did say many of the cases that they've investigated have actually turned out to be manned aircraft. that said, they are continuing to investigate. and without a definitive answer to this point, especially over reported sightings that spanned back to mid point of last month, it has left this vacuum where a lot of questions have come up and a lot of questions from people who are upset that there is not a definitive answer at this point. anderson. >> all right. omar jimenez, thanks very much. john miller is back. also joining us is cnn senior national security analyst juliette kayyem. she's a former assistant secretary for homeland security, currently a professor at harvard's kennedy school. so i i've been skeptical of this whole thing. how do we know this isn't just some people, you know, flying around drones? and once people get upset about it, they just continue. >> i think it's a couple of

things. one, it's because of the size. i mean, people have described these things as being the size of a small automobile. so, as omar pointed out in his piece, that's not the drone we bought for our kids or a hobbyist necessarily. it looks expensive. the second thing is that when they've been encountered and, you know, the idea is like, where are they coming from? and they're flying in groups. and if they're coming from offshore, the new jersey state police had helicopters literally laying offshore waiting for this because it was night after night after night. and when they chased them, they shut off their lights. the drones shut off their lights and increased speed and disappeared. so it sounds like it feels like whoever it is, is definitely not looking to be encountered, detected, seen or explained. juliet. >> i mean, does it surprise you? we don't have a definitive answer yet on the origin of these things, considering all the money

that's invested in national security and protecting u.s. airspace? yeah, yeah. >> and in particularly airspace, i mean, an entire system of control from northcom to norad to to the faa to regulations regarding drones and the ability to to fly certain unmanned uh vehicles, depending on their size, their capacity and everything else. there's a whole regulatory system exists, and the answer we've gotten back is, well, it's likely not drones. and so we that's what the government is now saying, is that most of them are manned aircraft. but but what john is saying is then that that would suggest that all of these eyewitness accounts and all of these videos that are showing multiple drones of a of large size that are moving in ways that that that an airplane doesn't move and that go try to avoid detection. we're still not getting a great explanation around that. and look, some some of these videos, we have to you know, people are probably putting

online now. some of them may may be may look like a drone, but it's actually an aircraft. but there's too many eyewitness accounts. yeah. john, i mean have we just a manned aircraft. yeah. >> have we seen this before? i mean, are there other incidents in other places? >> i mean, in norfolk, virginia in late 2023, you had 17 days of this over military locations, naval, naval locations by the shore. >> and was that ever figured out? >> no, not figured out. and i mean, to juliet's point, you talked to there's 110 mayors, you know, that were at this conference where they did the briefing and their residents are angry about the government response, saying, well, they were fixed wing aircraft. it's like fixed wing aircraft don't stop and hover and then go dark and take off. they're a little insulted about the idea that they're not being believed. >> do we even know how to? i mean, obviously drones have been a huge part of the war in

ukraine. has anti-drone technology. i mean, do we know how to fight against drones? >> so we do. and that's an issue here, which is under the current conundrum of laws between the faa, federal aeronautics administration, dhs, which is in charge of infrastructure security, the fbi, which has drone interdiction and detection capability and authority, and then all of local law enforcement. only the fbi is authorized to use that. so when you hear people saying, well, they should shoot them down, first of all, the complication is it's not illegal to fly a drone at night in new jersey. so what are you shooting them down for? and second of all, the police aren't allowed to do that because the federal government, even at events like new year's eve and times square and other things where you'd say if something with a payload came in, you'd want to take it out, they don't have that authority. >> john miller, thank you. juliette kayyem as well. coming up next, our clarissa ward takes us inside a syrian military hospital where

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identifying the dead. my only son. i don't have another. they took him for 12 years now. just because he said no. 12 years. my only son. this woman shouts. i don't know anything about him. i ask allah to burn him, she says of assad. burn him and his sons like he burned my heart. a crowd swarms when they see our camera. everyone here has lost someone. all of these people are asking us to take the names of their loved ones, to help them try to find them. it is a mark of desperation. such is the need for answers. but finding those answers will not be easy. at the military intelligence facility known as the palestine branch, officers burned documents and destroyed hard drives before fleeing. but their terror was on an industrial scale. troves and troves of prisoner files

remain. it will take investigators years to go through them below ground. more clues etched on the walls of cells that look more like dungeons. so you can see this list of names of. it looks like 93 prisoners here. there's also a schedule for keeping the cell tidy and just graffiti everywhere. people trying to leave marks for someone to find down here. insects are the only life form that thrives. it's clear that anyone who could survive this will never be the same again. the cells are empty, but the doors are finally open and the quest for answers is just beginning. >> clarissa, what do we know about the current status of americans? austin tice travis timmerman. >> so everyone woke up this morning ablaze syrian social

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refers to its creator, sal khan, the well-known founder of khan academy, whose lectures and educational software have been used for years by tens of millions of students and teachers in the u.s. and around the world. conmigo was built with the help of openai, the creator of chatgpt, and its potential is staggering. but it's still very much a work in progress. it's being piloted in 266 school districts in the u.s. in grades three through 12, with 60 minutes. i went to hobart high school in indiana to see how it works good morning. >> just a normal day in chem, right at eight in the morning. >> melissa higginson knows it's not always easy to get 30 high schoolers excited about chemistry. are you ready? >> are you ready? >> all right. that's what i want to hear. >> but these days, she has help. >> this is acetic acid. the pipette is not going to fill all the way. >> that lesson higginson has displayed behind her and is explaining to her ninth and 10th graders, was created with the assistance of conmigo. she told the a.i. tutor she wanted a four day course in which her

students would investigate the physical and chemical properties of matter. >> this next section is your research section. >> it took conmigo minutes to come up with a detailed lesson plan that would have taken higginson a week to create. >> pull that computer back out. you're going to go back to conmigo research and the students have conmigo on their laptops too, ready to help them with their questions. >> we have a couple of questions that we need to ask conmigo. >> so for example, i asked it what are three examples of acids? and if i wanted to know more. >> so it gave you three examples of acids like hydrochloric acid, citric and sulfuric. >> can you give me more examples? and if i wanted to know even more, i could ask it like what specifically some of the acids do. >> so it's giving you acids and then it's asking you a question. can you think of any other household items that might contain acid? >> yeah. so like it wants to help you understand like what it's telling you and not just like give you the information. >> the school used to be finding creative ways to help

kids learn is something sal khan has been doing since 2005. he'd gotten degrees in math, computer science, and engineering from mit and an mba from harvard, and was working as a hedge fund analyst to build themselves when he started recording math tutorial videos in his closet for his young cousins. >> so if i were to multiply this equation not long after, with the help of donors, including bill gates, he quit his career in finance and started the nonprofit khan academy. from the beginning of khan academy, the true north was how do you give more students at least approximations of the type of personalization they would get if they had a personal tutor. >> a wealthy family can afford a tutor for their child. if every kid could have a private tutor, that would level the playing field. >> yeah, that's the dream. >> co-founders of openai, gregg brockman and sam altman were fans of khan academy and hoped to evaluate their a.i. using khan's database of test questions and content. >> conmigo should do.

>> so they gave sal khan early access to an advanced a.i. technology that today underpins chatgpt. what did you immediately think? >> it was pretty obvious that this technology was going to transform society, so it was pretty heady stuff. but on the education side, i was like, wow, people are going to be able to use this for doing deep fakes and fraud and cheat. but if used well with the right guardrails, et cetera., it could also be used to support students to give them more feedback, to support teachers. for all this lesson planning and progress report writing that they spend hours a week doing item level analysis. >> educators and engineers at khan academy used openai's technology to build conmigo. >> we're going to be using conmigo for this, and for the last year and a half, the teachers and kids at hobart high school and others have been testing it out. >> i'll ask it a question. >> we sat down with two students from that morning chemistry class, austin and abigail, as well as layton and

maddie, who use conmigo in business class, and lou and lily, who use it in english, and for s.a.t. preparation. i heard people at khan academy came and asked students to break it. >> yes, yes, yes. >> that was the fun part. >> that was. some students would try and trick it into just giving you the answer. >> the superintendent i talked to said that some students were bullying conmigo for the answer. >> i think that was elementary school kids that were doing it. >> okay. blame it on the elementary school kids. okay. >> it's very helpful for those students who maybe don't feel comfortable asking questions within class. >> does it have a personality? >> it's very much there for you. like it's very positive. it's very reassuring. >> it's getting me thinking. and it's not just giving me an answer. >> do you ever just want to be like, can you just give me the answer? >> yeah, that was the hardest part, for i know, like me and a lot of other students, like, why isn't it giving me answers? at the end of the day, that's where your better answer is going to be. it's not going to be whatever the a.i. gives you. it's going to be whatever you create.

>> so your hypothesis going into the last test is. >> teachers at hobart high don't just use conmigo to help plan lessons and save dozens of hours a week. they also monitor their students understanding of subjects in ways they never could before. you can track how a student is actually using conmigo. >> yeah, i'm going to click usage. and then if i wanted to pick a specific student, i could come down here and really dive into what that student's been looking at. conmigo. and this is real time because you saw abigail this morning looking at acids and bases. >> so wait a minute. these are the footprints of abigail. >> these are the footprints of abigail's work. >> at 8 a.m.. she was asking about acids and chemical reactions. so even though you may not be hovering over the student at any given moment, you're somewhere else in the classroom. you can later check. oh, this is what abigail was looking at. i understand her thought process on why she got these answers. >> absolutely. so it gives me a lot of insight as a teacher in

terms of who i need to spend that one on one time with. >> maybe conmigo throws in a mastery challenge, or sal khan says they won't sell the data they collect through conmigo or give it to other tech companies. >> they do use it, however, to improve khan amigos memory and personalization. >> it'll guide them to sort of what to do first. >> sarah robertson, a former english teacher who's now a conmigo product manager, showed us a new feature they've developed to help kids write better and think more critically. i found this essay that i wrote to test it. i gave conmigo a paper i wrote in sixth grade about my mom, gloria vanderbilt. >> so go ahead and click next. >> start revising after just 90s conmigo delivered a very detailed evaluation of my essay. okay, it liked some of what i wrote. the use of a quote to start the essay is effective, and sets the tone for the rest of the biography, but suggested i should revise several paragraphs and my topic sentence. so i'm going to rewrite my sixth grade paper. after a few minutes of tweaking, ask it what it

thinks. um, what do you think it says? connecting childhood events to her later life will make your essay more cohesive and insightful. i mean, yeah, it's good advice. >> i can tell you, as a former seventh grade english teacher, when i assigned an essay, i would limit myself to ten minutes per essay. i had 100 students, so it would take me 17 hours to give feedback on every single student's first draft, the burden that we place on teachers to give that specific, timely, actionable feedback is just so great that it's not possible. >> so i've now plugged in to see if conmigo could catch me cheating. i asked chatgpt to write a paragraph about my mom and pasted it into my essay. >> i now see that there's a critical flag conmigo immediately sent an alert to sarah robertson. it says that you pasted 66 words while revising from an unknown source. so if i click on that now, it's going to load your essay and it's going to show me exactly what you just did. >> i'm so busted. >> you're busted.

>> do you want to work with a three digit or a four digit number? >> conmigo is free for all teachers in the u.s., but school districts have to pay up $15 per student per year to cover computation costs, and it's still being improved. >> any other ideas that can show? >> we got a hint of how conmigo might evolve when greg brockman, president of openai, stopped by sal khan's office to show us their new vision technology that will be available to chatgpt paid subscribers soon, we're preparing a demo for 60 minutes to show people what chatgpt can do with voice mode. with vision, it can actually see what someone is doing through live video and interact with them in real time. brockman was talking with it on his phone. >> got it. >> how about an anatomy lesson? >> you're going to quiz him and ask him to draw whatever body part you want to. you want to quiz him on and have him label it. how does that sound? >> that sounds like a fantastic plan. >> when brockman pointed his phone's camera at the blackboard, the a.i. started to

quiz me. >> let's start with the heart, anderson. can you draw and label where the heart is in the body? >> it understood what i was doing, even though my drawing was pretty crude. >> the location is spot on. the brain is right there in the head. as for the shape, it's a good start. the brain is more don't patronize me. >> it also seemed to pick up on my anxiety. >> anderson, how about the liver? give it a shot and show us where you think it's located in the body. >> okay, this is a little tough. >> this is how we learn. >> absolutely no pressure. anderson. >> i put the liver on the wrong side of the body. chatgpt corrected me politely. >> anderson's placement is close, but it's primarily on the right side, just below the diaphragm. >> so could you critique this diagram overall, anderson's diagram is a solid effort, especially for an impromptu drawing. >> the a.i. caught my mistake, but it's not foolproof.

>> the formula is simple one half times the base times the height. >> watch what happened when khan asked it to calculate the area of a triangle. an intentionally misidentified the height. >> is this the height over here? this four. is that right? >> the a.i. said he was right. >> yes. that's correct. >> it didn't catch the error. however, this technology improves quickly and it is fun to interact with. >> a.i.. really? really. >> greg brockman asked it to write a song about the formula for the area of a triangle to make it rhyme and sing it using a british accent. >> absolutely. let's give it a try to find a triangle spice. here's what you do. multiply the base by the height. it's true. then take that product and divide by two. now you've got the area of formula to pursue. how was that? >> that was really fantastic. >> that's i it's incredible. >> it is. it feels like we're

in a science fiction book. really. >> i mean, it just feels like to actually see it. you are. i mean, i'm sort of speechless the first time you see this stuff. >> it really does just feel like this magic and almost incomprehensible. and then after a week, then you start to realize, like how you can use it. that's been one of the really important things about working with sjöland and his team has been to really figure out what's the right way to sort of bring this to parents and to teachers and to classrooms, and to do that in a way so that the students really learn and aren't just, you know, asking for the answers and that the parents can have oversight and the teachers can be involved in that process. >> you can ask a follow up question. >> sally kohn hopes this new vision technology can be incorporated into conmigo and available to students and teachers in 2 to 3 years, but he wants it to undergo more robust testing and meet strict guidelines for privacy and data security. i can imagine a lot of teachers watching this and thinking, okay, well, this is just going to replace me. why would i want this in my classroom? it's like a trojan horse. >> i'm pretty confident that

teaching any job that has a very human centric element of it is, as long as it adapts reasonably well in this a.i. world, they're going to be some of the safest jobs out there. >> do you think there will always be a need for teachers in the classroom, talking with a student, looking at the student in the eye? oh, yeah. >> i mean, that's what i'll always want for my own children. and frankly, for anyone's children. and the hope here is that we can use artificial intelligence and other technologies to amplify what a teacher can do, so they can spend more time. good job standing next to a student, figuring them out, having a person to person connection two tens, two tens. >> you got it. good work. kayla. >> amazing. coming up, how amazon ceo jeff bezos is joining the growing list of business leaders reaching out to president elect trump they say things take time and effort, but it's worth the wait. >> i can tell some stories. i'm so excited. >> i don't believe twitter brought the world together and the world was not ready to see

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