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new details on search warrants for luigi mangione backpack and burner phone. what we learned overnight about the case against the suspected killer. and new lawsuits filed against sean three john doe's emails accusing combs of drugging and sexually assaulting them. i'm john berman with sara sidner and kate baldwin. it's friday. we made it. barely. this is cnn news central. right now, there are no real explanations as to what they are or where they are from, or who is launching them or what the whole point is. but regardless, the wave of drone sightings over new jersey has local lawmakers and people who live in new jersey growing even more concerned and frustrated. this has been going on for weeks now. the white house weighed in yesterday, downplaying concerns, saying there's no national security or public safety threat. but still this morning, frustrated
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lawmakers have gone from really asking questions to now demanding answers. and here is what new jersey congressman josh gottheimer told us last hour. >> here's what i know. they've been able to brief me, that they're confident of what they're not. so now, i think it's really important that you tell the public what they are, right. and i think, listen, the public has a right to know because people are concerned. they have a responsibility to allay people's concerns, to tell the public what they know and don't know, and to make sure that people are safe and protected and that we're doing everything to protect our national security and our public security and safety. >> cnn's polo sandoval is following this one for us, polo. and there's also now new sightings and new places just north of where all these sightings had initially been reported in rockland county. >> an official there telling me there were four additional sightings and that would really make him the first sightings for that particular part of new york state. and they are certainly calling on the federal government to brief them to investigate and try to
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find out if these are in any way potentially connected to what have been sighted just south of rockland county. but i think your interview, kate, is crucial here. it is quite telling when you hear from the new jersey representative basically telling you what he has seen, what federal authorities have presented him with, and after being briefed that leaving him with no doubts that this presents any sort of public security threat. but it's also interesting what he's not saying, right, is he stopped short of saying whether or not he was briefed on the fact that this may be potential approved activity. he didn't really answer that question. but of course, in the next breath calls on the federal government to brief the public, basically to tell people what they believe, what they have concluded that these drones are now, we've also heard from new jersey local officials who admit that it's quite possible that many of these sightings are just simply airplanes, but they're still concerned that a large number of them are not.
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and i think that that really is what we continue to hear from these new jersey communities and the local representatives as well. and now, according to information i obtained just in the last hour in neighboring new york state, as well paula. >> great reporting. thank you so much, sarah. >> all right. to discuss this. joining me now, new jersey state assemblyman paul kanitra. thank you so much for being here. i know this has been an issue for you because the constituents are really upset about this and they're worried about it. you. we were just discussing in the break. you have learned something new about this. what can you tell us now? >> so literally, just before i came on naval weapons station earle, which is where some very serious machinery and ordnance is based on confirmed that unmanned aerial drones were above their critical airspace recently. >> and that's on the heels of coming out of my district, the coast guard cutter that was trailed by about 12 drones and was harassing their crew, and they confirmed that to us as well. so there's very real incidence of this occurring. >> you are just getting this information now. this is this
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is new and it's news to hear that information that there were in fact aerial drones because we heard from, you know, in a in a statement, dhs and the fbi saying, look, not to be worried about this, that they don't think that this poses a threat. and they were questioning whether or not people actually saw what they saw, potentially, or if these were manned aircraft potentially, you know, airplanes. so what does that make you think when you hear that? and now you have this confirmation? >> it's contradictory. i was just in a briefing at the rock in new jersey with 99 other legislators across the political spectrum, where we heard directly from federal dhs and the colonel of our state police that they had indeed launched aircraft up, were hovering over one of these drones. it was at least six feet long, and they confirmed it. and we were talking about it in real time with dhs and about the equipment that they sent us to identify all that. so i don't know why the
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federal government on one side is also trying to diminish a lot of this, because, yes, a lot of these are aircraft are commercial flights, probably even the vast majority. when you're getting thousands of tips on a line. but a lot of them are actually drones. and that's confirmed. >> have you seen them yourselves? and if you have seen them, what do they look like? >> i want to do a news hit last night and i left my district. there were seven over the manasquan inlet, right in my hometown of point pleasant beach, and they just were hovering over our lake of the lilies. it's unbelievable that we're a month in. mind you, the first sighting of this was november 18th. our state police and dhs have confirmed that every single night since november 18th, there have been confirmed drone sightings. and you can tell that they're drones because everybody knows what a plane looks like and how it operates. they go left, they go right, they go up, they go down. it's a very serious thing that we don't know where they're coming from. >> do you think at this point, i mean, there's so much speculation from people because people are concerned, because people w want to know the answers. do you think there needs to be a a public hearing
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about what is going on? and some answers given? and are you surprised that you haven't heard definitively where these are from, what they are, and who's behind this? >> well, i feel that way and i can tell you the most bipartisan thing ever is getting a bunch of republicans and democrats in a room together at the rock where they all felt the same way about those concerns. so we're all pressing for more information. and quite frankly, there are many methods where you can take these down safely. my district has 30 miles of jersey shore coastline where you could take one down and not pose any risk to the public and actually get to the bottom of that. we sent a letter to dhs and to the white house the other day asking for just that. and i know a lot of my colleagues on both sides of the aisle are doing the exact same thing. >> when you say, take them down, are you talking about shooting them down? and couldn't that be done locally? couldn't someone just say, hey, you know what, send out? you know, the national guard or send someone out and take one of these down so we know what this is and where it's from. >> shooting down literally and figuratively. if you interfere with the gps, a lot of these drones have to land. right. and
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so we're calling for bringing them down. and we think that that's going to be the solution to everything. >> ultimately. do you think that because this has gone on for so long, you have seen them? many residents have been showing videos of them. does this put the government in a position of being distrusted even more, especially after the ufo thing where they were like, no, there's no unidentified flying objects for years and years and years, decades, and then saying, actually, there are we're not sure what they are. and now we have this incident where they're saying there is nothing to worry about at this point, that we believe, and yet we don't know anything about them. >> the nuances of how they're saying there's nothing to worry about are what you should worry about. right? it always says no known credible threat things along those lines, but they also don't know that there's any guarantee of safety either. and we're not sitting out here talking about the fact that we're going to be under attack anytime soon or anything crazy like that, but is there a very real probability that this is a foreign adversary who's testing our defense capabilities for a month, mind you, and possibly surveilling
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critical infrastructure, which has been confirmed. and in our briefing, they said they were over picatinny arsenal. they said they were over bedminster. they said they were over naval weapons station earle. and in my district, i have a national guard facility that has thousands of law enforcement going through there. they need to get on the same page because clearly their institutions are confirming that these sightings are occurring, and then they're trying to come out in a public way and diminish it. and that's losing trust with the american people. >> and you just made some news this morning again, tell me what you learned about these drones from a very well trusted institution, naval weapons station earle confirmed this morning that there were unmanned aerial drones above their facilities. >> and that's a fact. and we were told in our briefing that they were over picatinny arsenal as well. just a couple days ago. >> all right. assemblyman paul kanitra, thank you so much for bringing that to us. and hopefully you get some answers and we all do. >> thanks for looking into it, sir. >> appreciate it. john. >> all right. this morning, new details about the multiple search warrants carried out against the suspected killer as prosecutors in new york begin laying out their case to a
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being accused of sexual assault by three men in separate civil suits just filed, and all three of the accusers allege that combs drugged and raped them, and that the sexual assaults took place between 2019 and 2022. one of the men is a former employee of combs, who says that combs attacked him in a hotel. combs defense team released a statement in the face of this, saying that these lawsuits were full of lies. these latest accusations bring the total number of sexual assault claims against sean diddy combs to more than 30. joining me right now is cnn legal analyst and criminal defense attorney joey jackson. so these new allegations are similar to the dozens of others that we have already seen that have been filed. how do these add up or add into kind of what you see in what could be with all of these civil suits? >> so it always depends. right. and any suit turns on its facts. and what we're starting to see are facts that are very similar. so it begs the
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question as to whether or not one of two things is permissible or possible. number one, that this was simply right. these allegations represented his modus operandi. that's one way of looking at it. item number two, in looking at it, is saying that, hey, maybe these are copycats who are really creating fiction. and that is the narrative of p diddy, right? his people are saying these are pure lies. and so when you get other lawsuits which evidence a pattern of spiking drinks, of approaching, of drugging, of raping, and you've seen that, well, you have something to base it against. now the attorney has an obligation to vet, evaluate, review these before doing it. you have a due diligence obligation. so it's going to be a question of fact in the event, kate, that they are factually accurate. right. they'll be investigated. and then the issue will be how if at all, could they be used in the criminal prosecution ways away from that. and again, different attorney here. there's a new york based attorney, not busby. and you know, his crew. busby, of course, is an attorney who has filed several other lawsuits
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against combs. and so we'll see factually whether these are accurate or whether they're fiction. that remains to be seen. >> one other thing about this that stuck out to me is that these allegations are relatively recent, that they say the sexual assaults took place between 2019 and 2022. is that significant? >> very significant. and here's why. right. obviously, any allegation of abuse needs to be investigated, right. it should be to determine whether or not it's factually accurate. but if it's more of recent vintage, there should be more of a basis to have witnesses, memories who potentially you remember more now in 2019, 20, 22 than you would 20 years ago? the evidence, in terms of whether it be available, being able to approach someone, there's one indication that it was filmed. well, where is that? right. where's the camera that was done. so you said you weren't employed. did you really work there or did you make that up? and so because they're more recent, you would expect the evidence to be more recent and more available to really in the lawsuit itself, in addition to
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federal authorities, if they decide to look at these victims, alleged victims, to see whether they have any value. >> many, if not most of the civil suits that have been filed are jane and john doe's. yes. as this continues and these continue to be vetted, can that can that stay that way? can they stay anonymous. >> so okay great question. and it may not be the case. the judge at least the federal judge. these are state claims, right. the federal judge has signaled that you know what? maybe it's time for witnesses to be revealed why there was a dismissal of a federal case based on this very reason someone filed anonymously. and what a judge does, kate, is they balance the person's privacy interest. will you be intimidated? will you be threatened? will you be retaliated against, against the public? there's a presumption of openness. there's a presumption that the courts belong to the people. and certainly if you're going against someone, should they not have the right to know who you are? but the courts like transparency. and so unless you have a compelling basis to
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demonstrate that you do feel threatened or coerced or anything else, then it may be time for who it is to be made public. we'll see moving forward to reinforce what you do each time, which is this is these are civil lawsuits, and these are separate from the reason that sean combs is currently behind bars. >> the criminal charges he is facing for sex trafficking and racketeering. so, you know it all is it all is similarly wrapped up, if you will. but these are separate. how does one impact the other? >> so great point right. what happens is, is that in a civil lawsuit it's based on monetary damages. that's the way our system only way it has to really compensate someone in the event that there's truth to allegations separate and apart from the federal federal, not lawsuit, but criminal allegation. right. that's pending in terms of his indictment, the question of how it impacts it really is an open question. here's why they will the civil accusers be vetted? the civil claims will be
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vetted. is there any value to prosecutors, either a amending the charges if the claims are accurate, to include additional victims, additional instances? that's number one. number two, if you don't amend the charges, could you still use these alleged victims as what we call prior bad act witnesses? and that's up to a judge. >> that's that's that happens in court, right? absolutely. >> and what they do, kate, is they determine either a it goes to motive. it goes to intent, it goes to a common plan, a scheme. in this way a judge will allow it. but some judges say it may go to that. but it's so prejudicial because cases have to be about what you're accused about, not what you did. allegedly yesterday, the day before, the week before. what are you accused about now? so when you start piling on witnesses, jurors sometimes are misled to, hey, if he's done it before potentially he's done it now. that's very what we call prejudicial. and it's unfair to a defendant. so it will be up to a judge to see how we're going to use these witnesses, if at all, all separate, but
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>> nearly 20 years after an alleged rape that rocked the lives of duke lacrosse players, the accuser admits she lied and is making a plea for forgiveness. crystal mangum, who accused three duke men's lacrosse players of rape back in 2006, igniting a national firestorm at the time, now admitting on a web show that she lied i testified falsely against them by saying that they raped me when they didn't, and that was wrong and i betrayed the trust of a lot of other people who believed in me. >> i hope that they can forgive me. and i want them to know that i love them and they didn't deserve that. >> all three of the lacrosse players, by the way, were exonerated of all charges in 2007. mangum was never prosecuted for perjury because
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the statute of limitations had run out years ago, and because of her mental state. she is now, by the way, in prison, serving time for the second degree murder of her boyfriend in 2013. >> jon, i covered that 20 years ago. the da who brought the charges against the duke lacrosse players was also disbarred. so really, so much went wrong in that case over such a long period of time. all right. this morning, two new court dates set for the man accused of killing unitedhealthcare ceo brian thompson. new developments overnight. we now know neither the suspect, luigi mangione nor his mother had insurance through unitedhealth. and abc news reports that prosecutors in new york have begun showing evidence to a grand jury. police say as many as three search warrants have been executed. cnn chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst john miller, who has been way out ahead on so much of this story, is with us. so what does this all mean, john, about what happens now in next
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well, the fact that he's not a customer of united, nor was his mother is something that they've been kind of digging through to determine motive. >> was there some interaction between him and the company that set him off? and apparently not. but if you go to the three page claim of responsibility, as police are calling it, that was found allegedly on his person, he does write this. united is the fifth largest company in the u.s. by market cap, behind only apple, google and walmart. it has grown and grown what he seems to be imparting here is his targeting was based on start with the biggest. the question about the search warrants would probably relate to that computer that he was a laptop he was sitting with at that back table in mcdonald's when he was arrested to get inside it, to read its contents. not only do they have to get past whatever the security is for the machine, but they also need a search warrant to get in there.
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they're going to want to know when police were approaching him. what was he looking at? flight schedules. lists of countries with no extradition treaty with the united states. was he reading cnn.com to see if police are getting closer to his trail, or was he perhaps doing searches for another potential victim? without that search warrant, they'll never know. they're also interested, of course, always in what he denies. he says he was working alone. is was he in contact with anyone else about the about this plot and on the the what was it? it was the grand jury, the search warrant jury and the extradition expert. >> yeah, we have court dates now. two court dates for the end of december, i believe, on the extradition. >> right. and on the extradition. the defense has two weeks to file their papers to oppose it. the prosecution has 30 days, which basically gives them two weeks to respond to the defense. so it looks like at the earliest we may not see him back here for at lea
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>> well, we learned anything more, john, either continues wi that he's going to plead not guilty as part of these hearings. >> well, the extradition hearing is a very narrow hearing. it is really related to are the charges valid? are the documents in order? and is this person the person that they've identified in the documents? the extradition hearing will have little or nothing to do with the actual evidence, because that occurs once he's brought back to new york what he's held on in pennsylvania is the gun charge, the gun he was allegedly found with at the time of his arrest. >> all right, john miller, on top of all of this for us, you can see right there these court dates, december 23rd and december 30th. john, thank you very much as always. kate, there could be more than one kennedy in donald trump's next administration. the new name that the president elect is now floating for a role at the cia
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cnn's kristen holmes is with us now. so what's going on here? i mean, what are the qualifications well, she was a former cia official, but we don't know exactly what her tenure there looked like. >> now, she ran rfk's campaign. now, it's not that surprising that one of the loudest voices pushing for her is rfk jr.. her father in law, who has become quite a staple in trump's inner circle. someone who trump actually listens to, which we saw in that time. interview. he was very clear that rfk was a voice in his ear. now, the other part of this that has been so fascinating is the relationship that the kennedys have with the cia, particularly when it comes to rfk jr.. who has long said that he believes the cia was involved in the assassination of his uncle, president john f kennedy. donald trump also well on the campaign, said that he would release any remaining files that were under seal around the investigation on the assassination. so that's just an extra little added part of
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all of this. the other thing about amaryllis fox kennedy, and i'm hearing this from a number of people who are more on the maga wing of donald trump's republican party is that they believe that she would be somewhat of a disrupter, that she's a little bit of an outsider, despite the fact that she was herself a cia official, that they believe she's not as mainstream as the person who has been tapped to be the leader of the cia, john ratcliffe. now she has met with both trump and ratcliffe. but one other interesting part of all of this is that she's getting some pushback from another trump ally, and that is senator tom cotton, who is going to be the chair of the senate intelligence committee. so that's a pretty loud voice there. but as everything within trump world, we're going to have to wait and see how this plays out. who in this small group of people who are in trump's inner circle wins out the battle when it comes to the deputy director of the cia? >> also, we're learning a lot more about sort of the invitation list for the inauguration, which includes foreign leaders yeah.
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>> and generally, foreign leaders aren't invited to the inauguration. the way it usually works is the bipartisan committee that works on the inauguration puts out these invitations to diplomats who come, but they don't invite foreign leaders. but donald trump, unsurprisingly, i would think to many, wants us to be a global affair. and he is reaching out and his team is reaching out either directly or through handlers to various foreign leaders to invite them to the inauguration, one of them being china's xi jinping, which in itself is incredibly controversial because it's inviting this communist leader. now, we don't expect xi jinping to come. it sounds like he's going to be sending a senior ranking delegation from china instead, but it will be interesting to see who actually shows up. and part of this is what i'm being told is a lot of these asks are informal. they're coming up in conversations on the phone. he'ing about other issues that he mentions that these leaders should come to the inauguration. another way that this might have come up, and i'm told, is that when he was in france for the reopening
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is cnn, the world's news network all right. >> it is that time of year where food is the gift that keeps on giving. so would you try a vegan version of your favorite holiday meal? for many of us, that doesn't seem so appetizing. however, one entrepreneur and restaurateur is changing the game, making it her mission to make veganism not only tasty but sexy. pinky cole's vegan restaurant business is booming. she's expanded across the united states, serving up great food with a name you just can't forget. vegan how did you come up with the name vegan? >> i was in atlanta in my two bedroom apartment. that is when vegan was born, and i knew that it was special because i was solving a personal problem. and i'm like, okay, i want some vegan comfort food on the late night, and i don't want to eat fries and a side salad. i want to eat some, like, real good
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food at night. and vegan was born in that bedroom. and from that moment, i went into the lab and i started doing the research and it evolved into something so beautiful and even today, six years later, i sit back and i think about like,, i really created something special. >> what did your community say? when you're like, i'm going to start a restaurant called vegan and it's going to be vegan food because in the south we like meat. >> yes. when i first started vegan, there were a lot of people that were uncomfortable with the idea of me having a brand and saying but what i've been able to do is re-engineer a word in a way that you've never seen it before. i said, okay, i'm a former television producer, so i know what people pay attention to. i know what's going to make them watch it. i need to merge sex and food together in a way that you've never seen it before. and when i did that, it was a recipe for success. all i'm trying to do is get your attention. once i get you in here. and yes, when you walk into my restaurant, the first
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thing that we do is call you a but it's a term of endearment. and by the time you leave this restaurant, you're going to be proud and excited, uncomfortable in the right way, and then you're going to have this vegan burger, and you are going to be pleasantly surprised, like, wow, this is actually really good. and i can actually eat vegan food because i went to vegan and i had a really great experience. >> there is a health problem here in the united states. it's one of the unhealthiest places on earth. when you look at where we are economically, socioeconomically, there are also food deserts, food deserts exist, you know, i know, and the underprivileged folks pay more for fresh food and often don't have it very close to them. what do you tell them? what are they supposed to do? >> you know, it's interesting. when i first started vegan, i specifically went into underserved communities, and i went into areas where there were no vegan food. they didn't hear a vegan food. but i also realized that i had to
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create a healthy balance because i was bringing my food into an area where they couldn't even afford it. and it was a sad reality. and i realized like, oh, this is deeper than rap. i can't just open up stores in communities like this. i really got to provide a safe space for them to be able to afford and tap in. so i have re-engineered how i elevate my brand, and being more intentional about making it more affordable for people who otherwise couldn't afford it. that's important to me, because i realize that, like, people want to go vegan and they want to eat the food, but they also have to have access to it, and that's financial access. that's informational access. and as long as they have the access to it, then they can partake in it more. and if they can do it more, then their kids will eat more of it and their kids will eat more of it. and then you'll see it won't just be like, oh, vegan is this new trendy thing. it's just people just want good food that's healthier, even if it means a vegan burger and fry. >> i want to talk to you about your your personal life. what significant thing happened the
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day you were born, the day that i was born. >> my father was being sentenced to almost 30 years in prison and so that wasn't a gift that kept on giving that i expected. so while it was extremely difficult not to have a father figure in the house because of relationships and being a girl and just wanting daddy home, what i learned is, is that as long as your mind is free, there is nothing that can stop you. so as a result of that, i wanted to be an entrepreneur. i wanted to make it. i wanted to be a star. >> you've written two books. i have on top of the restaurants that are growing all over the place. what's the name of your first book? >> eat plants, so we know what that's about? yes. >> and the second book is i hope you fail. so i've looked at them both, and when i saw the name of the second book, i was like, rude. >> like, i'm not reading this, but i listened to it and you give some advice in there. >> and one of the bits of
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advice is, i hope you make a decision that ruins your life. yeah. why? >> i feel every day, every single day is a failure. but it's not a failure at all. it is finding the aspiration and the losses. and i wrote that book because when i wrote it, i was in a season of my life where i was still overcoming the pain from my past. right? and i wanted people to know that i am real. >> you said haters drive you. yes, but that you also recommend that we talk to ourselves. yes. what are you saying to yourself, girl? >> what's wrong with you? get up. you can do it. you're the boss. you're the sugar honey iced tea. >> i know that one. sugar. >> okay. you sell the letter? yes. >> you will see what she's talking about. >> you got to be aggressive with yourself. like sometimes i got to be like. wait a minute, pinky. what's going on with you? like you are that girl. it's in you. you got the je ne sais quoi. like everything about you is excellent. everything about you is top tier. nobody can take that away
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from you. money can't take that away from you. status can't take that away from you. you to go pinky and get this. >> in 2016 she had the absolute biggest challenge of her entrepreneurial life. her entire restaurant burned to the ground. she did not have insurance. she was starting from zero. but she said, you know what? when you hit rock bottom, it really tells you who you are. and here she is with all these restaurants across the country. had a great time in the food. it it is good. all right. new this morning top colleges and universities in the united states are urging international students to return to campus before president elect donald trump takes office on january 20th. they include harvard, usc, wesleyan, mit, and cornell. cornell warning that a travel ban is likely to go into effect soon after inauguration and likely will include citizens of countries targeted in the first trump administration. and there could be more countries added, including china and india.
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joining me now is neil sprinzen. he is a professor of law at usc gould school of law and heads the school's immigration clinic. first of all, what are you hearing from usc? do they have the same concern for their students? and frankly, faculty i mean, usc issued an advisory last week advising anyone who is an international student or an international scholar to be back in the country before inauguration day on january 20th. >> we do not know that anything is going to happen, but out of an abundance of caution, we're advising international students to be back. >> i am curious what prompted these warnings from from all of these different schools when, you know, that hasn't been something that has been on donald trump's agenda, at least not spoken about this time around. >> i mean, history is what's prompted it. we know there is an anti-immigrant sentiment that is going to be
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implemented. >> we know that there are going to be executive orders issued, if not on inauguration day very, very soon afterwards. and based upon what happened in january of 2017 with the first iteration of the muslim travel ban, again, let's be let's be cautious. if you're an international student and you're traveling, just be back in the country in 2017. >> as you mentioned, there was this what became known as as a muslim ban because most countries that were banned from traveling to the united states have predominantly muslim populations. can you remind our viewers of just how that affected students at that time? >> i mean, it was chaos because it was implemented with immediate effect. >> so literally there were thousands of people in the air flying to the united states who did not know about the ban until they landed at lax or jfk, for example. and then they were likewise thousands of people outside of the united
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states who were denied boarding by airlines during the visa check. the preflight visa check process. so it had tremendous ramifications. the trump administration ultimately had to water down the ban as a result of a supreme court as a result of litigation, but still, there were thousands and thousands of people adversely affected. >> can you give me a sense of what you're hearing after these messages go out to students? what you're hearing from students and faculty about all of this, and if it's causing great concern. >> i mean, individuals who have the so-called f-1 or j-1 international student or scholar visa, they know the drill. they know they're subject to vetting every time they travel. so individuals from countries that were not previously affected by the travel ban are probably less concerned. but what we're seeing with china, for example, and this also plays out with
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canadians and mexicans even is we've seen this tariff threat that is going back and forth between president elect trump and and those three countries, china, canada and mexico. so there's a concern that there could be some impact with airline travel from from people coming from those countries. so again, even though they were not previously targeted, there's concern and there's an abundance of caution. >> professor franzen, thank you so much. appreciate you coming on and explaining all that to us. thanks, john. >> all right. back by popular demand, a reminder that we all have to go to jury duty when called. legendary atlanta rapper ludacris reported for jury duty. he tried to do it incognito. he used his real name, christopher bridges. he wore a face mask and sunglasses, but after being dismissed, his cover kind of almost blown by a fellow juror jury duty. >> juror bridges is excused the mayor he is excused. >> oh. >> excuse us. don't nobody
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know who the hell i am. wow. you're loaded. >> oh, what? >> you look like ludacris. i wish i wouldn't be here, i'll tell you that. >> yeah, sure ludacris from atlanta. >> really? i think i think so. >> you know, you might be right. >> you know, you might be right. look, the important thing is he went. >> he showed up. he did his duty. i mean, good for him. but also, i like that he's like, you might be right. you know, i would not show up if i was him. good on you, ludacris. sherlock. >> he is one of those, like, iconic voices that i know you speak for. absolutely. exactly. exactly. thanks so much for joining us, everybody. this is cnn news central. cnn newsroom. >> up next, get your best welcome to times square that's not of my life. >> cheers that was so embarrassing.
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