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tariffs. we're following these major developing stories and many more, all coming in right here to cnn news central we begin with the first ever public confession from the woman who falsely accused three duke university lacrosse players of raping her nearly 20 years ago. >> crystal mangum now admits lying about the encounter. lies that ignited a national firestorm. mangum was an exotic dancer back in 2006, when she claimed that david evans collin finnerty and reade seligmann raped her at a teen party where she'd been hired to perform. the charges were later dropped and the men were exonerated, but got no apology from their accuser. she had stuck by her story until now. >> i testified falsely against them by saying that they raped me when they didn't, and that
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was wrong. and i betrayed the trust of a lot of other people who believed in me. um. and made up a story that wasn't true because i wanted validation from people and not from god. i hope that they can forgive me, and i want them to know that i love them, and they didn't deserve that. >> cnn's jean casarez reported on this case from the beginning and is with us now. jean, what led to this confession after all these years? >> well, it was a podcast. and she decided that she wanted to say this. but i think, brianna, you said something very important just a minute ago. she has stuck by this story for 20 years, almost. and so there was always that, yes, they were exonerated and they were exonerated for very plausible
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reasons. her story changed. it was there was inconsistency right after she said that she was raped, she walked into a room and a picture was taken, a big smile on her face. um, but more than that, the defense found that there was dna and that that dna on the thousands of pages. and i learned this in the courtroom during the trial of the district attorney, which i'll get to in a second. but the dna showed that they were excluded. the three duke lacrosse players, but the prosecution never gave that evidence to the defense. the case was going forward. they're going to be in prison for life. these three duke lacrosse players who were students at duke university and had promising futures. but once that occurred and they were exonerated, there was a trial of mike nifong, the district attorney of durham, and he was convicted on contempt charges, and he lost his bar license.
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but it came out that that dna was there all the time, and it was the defense, a defense attorney that was young, that had just passed the bar, that stayed up night after night, looking at the evidence he found that dna issue right there, that they were actually excluded from the beginning. and the district attorney had done many interviews standing by that she was horrendously raped. and her specifically, she had her horrific allegations. but i think, brianna, they became household names. collin finnerty. dave evans, you knew their names. you knew their pictures and they have to live with that forever, even though they've been exonerated. and now there is an admittance that there was lying on the stand, and she was never charged with perjury. she's in prison right now, by the way, on a murder charge, on a murder conviction. >> yeah. jeanne, it really is something to hear it from her. jean casarez, thank you so much, boris. thank you. >> let's discuss the story with defense attorney misty.
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misty, thanks so much for sharing part of your afternoon with us. so you just heard jean say there that mangum is currently incarcerated for second degree murder. in a separate case. could this admission potentially open the door for her to face charges over lying? >> well, the issue is that the statute of limitations has long passed. it's a two year statute of limitations for perjury. and the district attorney back at the time declined to bring those charges because there was an issue regarding her mental state and potential competency. so at this point, that door is closed. >> i know that the accused players settled significant lawsuits with duke university and the city of durham. do they now have standing to file civil charges against her, even though there may not really be financial considerations, given that she's imprisoned? >> right. it's a great point. and again, the same issue applies. this would be a
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perfect case for a defamation lawsuit because she has admitted to lying back at the time about something which is obviously harmful to an individual's reputation. but again, the statute of limitations on that has also passed. given the age of these allegations and the age of the case. >> so beyond the obvious public humiliation that she's enduring now, is there any other avenue for her to be held accountable for altering the course of these young men, now adults lives? >> the one thing that an attorney could look at is when she has made her last representations about what happened that night, because, as jean said, she had stuck with her story for almost 20 years. but when did she affirmatively last said that in the public sphere that these individuals had had had raped her and that would be an avenue to see if there was a way to have a statute of limitations
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issue extinguished because it had been republished or published at a time of more more recent in the recent few, in the recent past. >> sure. and misty, you could also argue that it wasn't just the men who were accused that may have been harmed by her lying. i wonder if you think that this case and cases like it have had a chilling effect on actual victims of rape and sexual assault, are there broader ramifications here? >> it is the worst part of a false allegation, because all of the very, very real situations that are out there and the real victims are undercut by these false allegations because it just puts increased scrutiny on every single case. so, absolutely, there is a chilling effect, and it is a broader issue. and so the fact that she's now at least come clean and made this representation publicly, at the very least it could it could continue to open the door for real victims to step forward and not have fear of reprisal.
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>> misty marris, always appreciate your perspective. thanks for joining us. thank you brianna. >> now to the growing mystery over drones spotted in the skies over new jersey and new york. people in the new york metro area are now reporting a growing number of these drone sightings in their communities, and it follows a wave of mysterious drone appearances in the skies over nearby new jersey. for the past several weeks, the white house and the fbi say that there is no evidence the drones pose a national security threat, or that they have a foreign connection. but the feds have given no explanations as to what they are or where they're coming from, or who is launching them. and frustrated lawmakers have gone from asking questions to demanding answers based on what the briefings i've received from the fbi, which is the lead agency in the united states, on drone threats, um, coupled with homeland security and the faa, uh, based on the information they have presented to date, i feel there is no imminent
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threat to public safety. >> this is not some made up thing. the question i believe the fbi and dhs needs to brief the public on right now is what do they know where these drones are from? are they authorized or unauthorized? right. are they licensed or unlicensed? where are they from? >> drones have been spotted in many areas of new jersey flying over homes. president elect trump's new jersey golf course and even sensitive government military sites. here's what a new jersey state assemblyman said this morning on cnn. >> so literally, just before i came on naval weapons station earle, which is where some very serious machinery and ordnance is based on, confirmed that unmanned aerial drones were above their critical airspace recently. and that's on the heels of coming out of my district, the coast guard cutter that was trailed by about 12 drones and was harassing their crew, and they confirmed that to us as well. so there's very real incidents of this occurring. >> so far, the drones have been able to evade radar as well as
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police helicopters. but cnn's polo sandoval spoke to a leader at a private airspace security company about how investigators could track them dhs and the fbi are saying that thus far, they have not been able to corroborate any drone sightings with electronic detection. >> detection, i should say. so we did some digging into what that actually looks like and how that can actually happen. i had an opportunity to speak to a representative of drone, which is a private airspace security company that basically helps their clients prevent and detect any unauthorized drone drone flights. that representative telling me that there are at least four ways that you can actually detect some of these flights. the first, using radio frequency, you can actually pick up some of that chatter, some of that, some of the signals that are sent and dispatch between the drone and the remote control on the ground. there's certainly cameras. a simple surveillance camera often does the trick, though, with more advanced cases, more advanced technology
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is needed. radar, we all know how that works. and then finally, acoustics. you can quite literally use equipment to listen for some of these drones. so that representative told me that that is becoming less reliable. since drone technology has evolved. and oftentimes these drones are much quieter. but overall, these are the kinds of resources that authorities on the ground in new jersey, at the state and local level, are asking the federal government to provide. in fact, on friday, new jersey governor phil murphy sending a letter to president biden. and in it, not only does he express growing concern about these drone sightings, but also is asking for more federal resources to be sent to new jersey to help them try to get to the bottom of this. the governor also adding that the residents in his state deserve more information, that it's not enough to simply be told that this is not a matter of any sort of public security or public safety. they want to find out what's behind these drone sightings. and finally, the governor saying expressing concern about conspiracy theories that we have seen and
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heard for the last several days. it was just a few days ago that there was an official that was publicly speaking out about this, saying that it was his theory that it was likely an iranian mothership off the east coast that was sending these drones in. of course, the pentagon quickly denying that claim. back to you. >> thanks so much to polo sandoval for that update. what really stands out about some of these drones is their size. some have been described as being as big as a car. cnn's clare duffy has new reporting on what these drones are typically used for. and clare, the size of these drones, these aren't the ones that, like hobbyists, buy yeah, boris, i mean, of course, officials are still trying to figure out what exactly these things are that people are seeing and whether they're drones at all. >> but these big drones do exist. and in fact, experts told me that it could be the kind of thing a hobbyist could make or buy these sort of extra large drones. but you need a special approval from the faa to fly anything that weighs more than 55 pounds. and
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experts also told me that these larger drones can also cost tens of thousands of dollars. so more often they are used for commercial or military applications. companies can use these large drones for things like agricultural surveillance or to spray fields. they can also be used for infrastructure to survey buildings or roads, or for mapping. some law enforcement agencies are also using drones for search and rescue applications, although you don't necessarily need an extra large one. these things can also be used for commercial transportation like deliveries. and then of course, they can be used by the military for surveillance with very powerful cameras or infrared sensors. but again, i want to stress that we don't necessarily know that any of these things are the case, that these are what are being spotted over new jersey. but it's worth knowing that these larger drones do exist, and that not all of the applications are scary things. boris. >> clare duffy, thank you so much for clarifying that for us. still to come, a canadian official is now threatening possible retaliation if
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if president elect donald trump makes good on his proposed 25% tariff threat, cutting off energy to the united states we will go to the extent of cutting off their energy going down to michigan, going down to new york state and over to wisconsin. >> i don't want this to happen. but my number one job is to protect ontario ontarians and canadians as a whole. we'll use every tool in our toolbox, including cutting them off energy that we're sending down there. folks, this is coming. it's not. if it is, it's coming, and it's coming january 20th or 21st. and we need to be prepared canadian premier doug ford added that americans would also feel the pain. >> cnn's paula newton is here with more details. paula, how serious are these threats from canada i mean, they're serious, but you have to keep in mind, boris, look, he's the premier of ontario.
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>> anything like that would have to be approved by the prime minister himself. having said that, that look, the war of words has started. is that going to lead to a trade war? everyone here in canada is, in fact, prepared for a 25% tariff on many, many things, if not all, exports to the united states. and the prime minister himself. trudeau has been categorical that would be devastating for the canadian economy. but what does it mean? you know, for americans and the whole energy system? i want you to look at some facts. even though premier ford there he was talking about electricity specifically. but if we talk about electricity, we're talking about 84% of all the electricity that the u.s. imports come from canada. but again, boris, it's only about 1% of consumption. when we talk about oil. sure, 60% of the oil that the u.s. imports does come from canada, but the united states has enough oil for the entire country. what does this do more than anything, boris, is it will have severe
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disruption to what is a highly integrated energy system between canada and the united states. it doesn't matter if you're talking oil, electricity, natural gas and what is that going to do? it's going to cause a little bit of chaos and disruption. but that's if it comes to this. and how did we get here, boris? well, you know, president elect trump has said that. look, 25% tariffs, unless something is done about the border, he really wants to tackle fentanyl and human trafficking. to that end, the canadian government has said that. look, they'll have a plan likely presented next week. about $700 million extra that will go to helicopters, drones and intelligence. a lot of different things that the united states is looking for. now, look, to make his point. prime minister justin trudeau, the day after thanksgiving, went to mar-a-lago. he spoke one on one with the president and assured him, we hear you. we will do what we can on the border. but they did not come away with any guarantees that these tariffs, 25% on everything. canada imports to
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exports to the united states. he did not come away with that guarantee. so what are they doing? of course they're drafting a list a list of retaliation. and trudeau himself, he's the one who brought up energy. he brought up electricity. he brought up gas. he would then put not stop supplies totally, but certainly, perhaps put a tax on all oil or electricity or natural gas going into the united states. and that obviously, again, can cause significant disruption. i want to tell you, boris, look, a lot of things are on the table right now. and the point is that canadian officials do not believe any of this will go away. they are taking the president elect at his word, and they do expect some economic chaos to come by the end of january. >> we'll be keeping a close eye on that. paula newton, thank you so much for the update, brianna. >> president elect trump has repeatedly pledged to pardon january 6th rioters, but with roughly one month until inauguration, it's still unclear just how many will ultimately receive clemency. in a new interview, however, he says his decision will be made
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on a case by case basis. cnn. cnn's chief legal affairs correspondent paula reid has more on the debate inside trump's inner circle over how to handle these pardons. >> well, speaking with sources, it's clear this is not going to be a traditional pardon process where each individual case is assessed. instead, the trump team really looking to do things in broad swaths. but as is often the case with president elect trump, he is big on promises, short on specifics. but we do know that an attorney who represents dozens of people who have been charged related to january 6th has been inundated with calls with interest from people who have been charged, who would like a pardon, naturally, but it's unclear the process to understand whether or not they qualify. the one clue that trump has given is that he wants to carve out an exception, and not grant clemency, for people who have been violent. now, it's difficult to suss out exactly who is and is not violent. when you're dealing with something like this, because, of course,
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this was a violent event. and we take some of the leaders like enrique tarrio. he's the former chairman of the proud boys. he wasn't in d.c. that day. he was not engaging directly in violence, but he was directing his followers to do so. he was convicted on charges of seditious conspiracy. he is in prison for decades, currently serving that sentence. so big question what do you do with someone like him? now trump has signaled he wants to pardon people here. one other option that he has is commutations. he could offer commutations. so commute sentences, not wipe someone's record clean, but instead commute their sentence so they could walk out of jail if they are still serving time. that is an option. but look, they still have five weeks to figure this out. the one thing that is clear is that the president elect and his team, they do want to do this. it's just unclear exactly how they're going to do it and how many people will benefit all right, paula reid, thank you for that. >> so for the first time, unitedhealthcare parent company addresses the murder of its ceo
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arrested over the summer while on a christian pilgrimage. his parents described their reaction to cnn. >> when i saw him on the news, i just started, i started bawling. i called her, i'm like, really him? he's really alive. you know, after seven months, you start thinking the worst. and i think he's been through a lot. um, he looks different back in syria, cnn's clarissa ward reports that for many families, the search for loved ones continues often with much bleaker outcomes. >> a warning this report contains some graphic content. >> a woman wails on the floor of the mujtahid hospital my mother, she's been missing for 14 years, she says. where is she? where's my brother? where's my husband? where are they home, doctor ahmed abdullah shows us into the morgue. where? about 35 bodies have been brought in, discovered in a military
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hospital days after the regime fell. they are believed to be some of the last victims of bashar al assad. drum, take a look. this is the crime of the regime. he says even in the middle ages, they didn't torture people like this. another man points to their tattered clothing evidence. he says that most were detainees at the much feared sednaya prison. even in death, they are still only identified by numbers. everyone here heard about the horrors that took place in assad's notorious prisons. but to see it up close is something entirely different. a lot of them have bruises, have horrible wounds that seem to be consistent with torture. i just saw one woman retching as she came out of the other room. families are now going through trying to see if their loved ones are here. there's not enough room for all of them in the morgue, so a
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makeshift area has been set up outside. more and more families stream in the light from their cell phones. the only way of identifying the dead my only son. i don't have another. they took him for 12 years now. just because he said no. 12 years. my only son. this woman shouts, i don't know anything about him. i ask allah to burn him, she says of assad burn him and his sons like he burned my heart. a crowd swarms when they see our camera. everyone here has lost someone. all of these people are asking us to take the names of their loved ones, to help them. try to find them. it is a mark of desperation. such is the need for answers. but finding those answers will not be easy. at the military intelligence facility known as the palestine branch, officers
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burned documents and destroyed hard drives before fleeing. but their terror was on an industrial scale. troves and troves of prisoner files remain. it will take investigators years to go through them below ground. more clues etched on the walls of cells that look more like dungeons. so you can see this list of names of it looks like 93 prisoners here. there's also a schedule for keeping the cell tidy and just graffiti everywhere. people trying to leave marks for someone to find down here. insects are the only life form that thrives. it's clear that anyone who could survive this will never be the same again. the cells are empty, but the doors are finally open and the quest for answers is just beginning. the
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one thing the assad regime did do a very good job of was documenting its own crimes. and so the question now is how long will it be until you start to see human rights groups? and investigators coming in to syria to try to start the vast process of poring through all that data? and then what's the next step towards getting some sort of justice for these people? could the syrians choose to do what the ukrainians did, which was essentially to open themselves up to be under the jurisdiction of the icc? that would be the hope of many syrians. but the disappointment as well, for a lot of people you talk to here is that bashar al assad is very unlikely to ever see his day in court because, of course, he is now in exile in moscow. >> our thanks to clarissa ward for that report. stay with cnn cnn news central. we're back in just a few minutes welcome to times square.
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not well understood and, quote, we need to improve how we explain how decisions are made. the suspect accused of gunning down thompson luigi mangione, will be back in court in ten days. cnn chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst john miller is here. now. john, give us the latest on the investigation. >> well, we're learning some new things today. >> it starts with the finding by the new york city police department and consultation with unitedhealthcare that the suspect was never a client of theirs, not a customer. part of that goes to what was behind his particular animus to this organization and its leader. and apparently based on that, it wasn't anything that happened between him and the company. rather, it may just be that unitedhealthcare for a guy who was very vociferous online about his feelings about the health care industry, was simply the biggest in the note
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that was allegedly found on his person by police in pennsylvania, it says, quote, united is the fifth largest company in the united states by market cap, behind only apple, google and walmart. it has grown and grown. that may have more to do with it with his targeting than anything between him and the company. the other thing that emerged last night was reporting by cnn about three search warrants that had been obtained. it looks like those search warrants are most likely for the laptop. he was actually working on while he was arrested at that table at the back of a mcdonald's in altoona, pennsylvania. investigators want to get into that now. in the note, he says that he is. my tech is pretty locked down because i work in engineering, so probably not much in there. that may be true, but they still want to get into that computer and find out. was he talking with anyone else? was he working with
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anybody else? he also says in the note that he wants to avoid a lengthy investigation, and he wants to state plainly, i wasn't working with anyone. that may be true, but they want to get into those devices and determine what was in them. the burner phone that he was walking with on the street. on the video, you can see him actually talking with someone on the phone right before the murder. they want to get into that phone and find out who was that person. so a lot of loose ends to tie up while they wait for the extradition proceedings to go on between new york and pennsylvania yeah, certainly. >> john miller, thank you for keeping an eye on all of that, boris. >> now to some of the other headlines we're watching this hour. the wife of the wisconsin kayaker who police say faked his own death just to flee to europe, filed for separation. and the petition ryan beauregard's wife is requesting sole custody of their three kids, claiming the couple's 22 year marriage is irretrievably broken. officials say borgwardt willingly
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studio at military installations all around the world, even in the hallowed halls of congress. joining us now from the hill is republican congressman from new york, united states naval academy, class of 2000. i think i have that right. and democratic congressman pat ryan from new york, united states military academy, class of 2004. and also west point is in his district. gentlemen, i think congressman ryan and i know the answer to this question, but nonetheless, who do you think is going to win tomorrow it's going to be navy the whole way, despite this injury being two on one two army versus one navy. >> navy is going to pull it off by a score of about 2000 to 0 tomorrow. >> just just look at this season. i just look at the facts. look at the data. look at the heart. look at the grit. look at our quarterback and look at our ranking. army is going to crush navy tomorrow. >> yeah. it's going to be some good football no doubt about that. and i think you can't
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ignore that. there is a little bit of a political backdrop here. president elect trump is going to be at the game. his defense secretary pick who is in a sure thing. there's this big fight playing out over politicization of the military right now. but this is a game thated to be about something so much bigger. and it really is. i wonder what you hope people take away from it this is an inspiration to the whole country, and specifically now that this game is being played in our nation's capital. >> hopefully it's an inspiration to members here on capitol hill that the country should come first. the folks who are playing on the field tomorrow are willing to give their lives for everybody watching. that ought to be an inspiration to everybody here in this town and work together and put the nation far, far before themselves. >> yeah. and and despite our disagreement on football and sports, i mean, nick and i have worked on a lot of legislation together. there's actually a group called the for country caucus, bipartisan military veterans. when we were out going out on mission. and you're doing your patrol
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brief, you don't care about any of the differences. certainly political differences. you have a larger purpose to serve. and tomorrow is just a patriotic day where we're so proud of these young men and women and what they represent. and it makes me optimistic at a time when we certainly all need a little bit more optimism about our country and our politics. >> yeah. and look, i am admittedly biased here. i'm wearing this year's army jersey. my trash talk has been a little out of control. and i wonder because up there on the hill, as you mentioned, you do have a lot of veterans. you have a lot of representation from the academies that are going to be playing tomorrow. congresswoman mikie sherrill, congressman todd young, wes hunt, john james, warren davidson, senator jack reed, and there's others i didn't name there what congressman ryan has the trash talk been like? >> it's a lot of fun. i mean, it's fun to talk about things like this rather than some of the other things that have been bogging down and slowing down.
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this congress. i actually caught another naval academy grad who shall remain nameless, not not mr. al-awda here trying to sort of put up some beat navy signs on my office this morning. luckily, i intercepted them and the navy spirit mission on my office failed. so we're having a lot of fun. and look, there's so much we agree on in this country. and that's what i think both of us have tried to do in our time here, is just try to find that common ground. >> and what about you, congressman? are there any say this to. yeah. >> yeah. pat ryan's the attempt on his office was unsuccessful. but that wasn't the only salvo we fired. i also got a successful one into john james of michigan's office. got some good beat army pictures at his desk. he was tremendously embarrassed. just like the army football team will be embarrassed tomorrow. >> i don't know, i see some interceptions, just like we saw at congressman ryan's office. i think we're going to see some interceptions. maybe that don't favor navy. i'm just saying. but i wonder, do you
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guys want to get a bet going on, you know, really put some skin in the game here, some dignity on the line. what do you think. >> how about we bet a floor speech? how about we bet a floor speech that whichever team wins, that member gets to choose the speech of the other member about the the team's football. >> do you agree to that? since we're on national television? so yeah, i agree, and i look forward to praising army's victory next week on the house floor. >> and for transparency's sake, maybe the producers can put up the record of the all time series in some of the headers or footers there, because the viewers should know that navy is far ahead in the all time series. >> listen, i am biased, but i will have, you know, we put that up yesterday. i mentioned it. navy is well ahead, so i just want you to i don't know it off the top of my head, but we did say it yesterday. navy is well ahead in the all time count, sir. i admit it. and
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lastly, congressman ryan, there's a lot of pre-game traditions, including the cadet midshipman debate that actually took place today on the hill. i know you were a judge in it who won yeah, it was a lot of fun, actually, over in the senate and on c-span for the for the folks who want to check it out. >> it was a tight debate, but army actually won 4 to 3. and to see these young men and women, how smart they are, how passionate they are, again, it's just something i think the whole country can and should root for. and we'll see that tomorrow on the football field, too i think we will. >> all right. you guys want to cancel each other out with your your cheer. go for it go. >> navy beat army, beat army oh, no. >> no oh, no national tv. >> oh, no. i'm never going to hear that in the control room. never gonna hear the end of that edit that five guys beat navy. >> oh, mr. ryan okay, start
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