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>> a deepening mystery unfolding in the tri-state area today. people in the new york metropolitan area are now reporting a growing number of drone sightings in their communities. this follows a wave of mysterious appearances in the skies over new jersey, sparking major concern among residents as well as among local and state leaders. the white house and fbi say there is no evidence to this point that the drones pose a national security threat or have any kind of foreign connection, but that's only adding to the confusion, because so far there are no explanations as to what they even are, or where they're coming from, or who might be launching them. for weeks now, the drones have been spotted over homes, critical infrastructure and sensitive government sites. today, some frustrated lawmakers have gone from asking questions to demanding answers new jersey can't become the wild west of
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drone activity. >> no state can become the wild west of drone activity. i've made this very clear to the fbi, to homeland security and the faa. the agency's chiefly responsible for monitoring drone activity. they must immediately disclose more information to the public. it's totally and completely unacceptable that you have all this drone activity going on that people are seeing with their own eyes the fact that the federal agencies responsible for briefing the public have not come forward in a clear way is unacceptable. there has to be some explanation to the public for all this increased activity, and they must do so now. >> thus far, the drones have managed to evade radar as well as police helicopters, and moments ago, cnn learned that connecticut police are tracking reported sightings of drones over fairfield county. cnn's polo sandoval spoke to a leader at a private airspace security company about how investigators are trying to track these drones dhs and the fbi are saying that thus far, they have
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not been able to corroborate any drone sightings with electronic detection. >> detection, i should say. so we did some digging into what that actually looks like and how that can actually happen. i had an opportunity to speak to a representative of drone, which is a private airspace security company that basically helps their clients prevent and detect any unauthorized drone drone flights. that representative telling me that there are at least four ways that you can actually detect some of these flights, the first using radio frequency. you can actually pick up some of that chatter, some of that, some of the signals that are sent and dispatched between the drone and the remote control on the ground. there's certainly cameras, a simple surveillance camera often does the trick, though, with more advanced cases, more advanced technology is needed. radar, we all know how that works. and then finally, acoustics. you can quite literally use equipment to listen for some of these drones. so that representative told me that that is becoming less reliable since drone technology has evolved. and oftentimes these drones are much quieter. but overall,
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these are the kinds of resources that authorities on the ground in new jersey, at the state and local level, are asking the federal government to provide. in fact, on friday, new jersey governor phil murphy sending a letter to president biden. and in it, not only does he express growing concern about these drone sightings, but also is asking for more federal resources to be sent to new jersey to help them try to get to the bottom of this, the governor also adding that the residents in his state deserve more information, that it's not enough to simply be told that this is not a matter of any sort of public security or public safety. they want to find out what's behind these drone sightings. and finally, the governor saying expressing concern about conspiracy theories that we have seen and heard for the last several days. it was just a few days ago that there was an official that was publicly speaking out about this, saying that it was his theory that it was likely an iranian mothership off the east coast that was sending these drones in. of course, the
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pentagon quickly denying that claim. back to you. >> all right, polo sandoval, thanks for the report. and joining us now to talk more about these mysterious drones is michael melham. he is the mayor of belleville, new jersey, which is one of the communities where numerous, numerous drones have been spotted. mayor, thanks so much for being with us. we do have some video that you and the belleville police department obtained that i want to show our viewers. and if we can go ahead and put that up, here it is. so just tell us about what we're seeing here. where this is where you've been seeing drones. >> thank you for having me. so that that video that you're seeing was actually shot by one of our belleville police officers, who actually is a licensed drone pilot. so he's got some familiarity with how these things move. he shot that. and what you're looking at right now is in very close proximity. belleville borders the city of newark and newark, as we probably all know, newark international airport is right
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there, right in the middle of air traffic control. so that's really running up and down route 21 here in belleville, which is a direct conduit, right, to newark international airport. that's why it's gravely concerning to see so many drones in the air. night after night. that video was shot on december 8th. but the last two days has been a hotbed. we have been swarmed with drones over the last two evenings. >> so a statement put out by federal investigators says they have not corroborated any of the sightings with electronic detection, and they actually believe that many of the reported sightings are manned aircraft that are operating lawfully. do you think that some of these reports have simply misidentified or mischaracterized drones? and, you know, specifically in that video, what is it that the drone operator said? no, this is the behavior that tells me this is a drone. >> certainly. i mean, now that you have almost widespread hysteria because we have a lack of transparency going on here, everybody's looking up in new jersey. so clearly there's going to be some
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misidentification going on. but i could i could tell you from my own visuals, things that i've seen out my bedroom window and things i've seen over the edge of my balcony. we are absolutely seeing drones. we are not seeing small planes. and frankly, it's been insulting to the residents of new jersey to be told that they're just seeing things or they're all misidentified. we're not misidentifying there are objects that are flying within hundreds of feet above our homes. that's not good. they're just above the sight line, just above the tree line. we know for a fact that these things are not operating the way airplanes do. airplanes tend to glide and go from point a to point b in a direct line. these things are going up and down in elevation. they're hovering. they're moving erratically. these things are not manned aircraft. that's insulting to be told that. >> do you think federal officials are taking this seriously enough? >> uh, it depends on your perspective on that. i mean, we keep being told that these drones are hovering over our critical infrastructure, so that could be either scary or comforting. scary if it's a bad actor or comforting if it's actually our federal government. some out there, and
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i'm probably in that group actually do believe these may be government assets that are being deployed because potentially they know of a threat, an active threat, and that these might very well be government assets. >> so what do you want from federal authorities and is part of this, the communication that you and other mayors are getting from them? because it seems that there's been some frustration on that front. >> there's a lot of frustration. on wednesday, 200 mayors were gathered for a for a security briefing that was unprecedented in the state of new jersey. we left that meeting knowing next to nothing. what we're asking for is transparency. at this point, i'm not necessarily concerned with who the drones belong to. i can make that assumption. i'm more concerned with why they're out there. that's that's really the answer. i think having more transparency from the administration, not being told that we're seeing things, not being told, there's nothing to see here. i think more transparency would actually stop fueling the conspiracy theories that are spreading like wildfire on social media. >> so you're saying you think
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you know who who owns the drones? >> yeah, i'm saying that i'm more concerned with why they're there. i mean, you have to understand something. we were told that they're hovering over critical infrastructure. we're also being told there's no credible threat. >> we're also being told it's a good i don't want to take. you don't think it's a foreign actor? do you? do you do you have reason? do you have reason to believe that? it's actually then i mean, i'm just trying to read between the lines of what you're saying, that maybe it's this is u.s. government or some sort of u.s. asset, but they're not disclosing the objective. >> i believe that the fact they're telling us no credible threat, the fact they're saying they will not shoot them down, the fact they're saying they will not put a temporary ban in place, it's pointing to something. and that's not little green men. and it's probably not a foreign, foreign, uh, you know, foreign enemy. uh, more than likely, we do believe that these are probably our assets that are actually looking out for a potential threat. that's what we want to know. >> all right, mayor, thank you so much. really, really appreciate you being on.
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>> thank you. boris. >> now to a public confession. nearly 20 years overdue, the woman who accused three duke lacrosse players of rape admits that she lied about the encounter. crystal mangum was an exotic dancer in 2006 when she accused the players david evans, collin finnerty and reade seligmann of rape, igniting a national firestorm. but a lack of evidence and inconsistencies in mangum's account of what happened ultimately led to the charges being dismissed. now, as part of a podcast interview, she's asking for forgiveness i testified falsely against them by saying that they raped me when they didn't, and that was wrong. >> and i betrayed the trust of a lot of other people who believed in me. um and made up a story that wasn't true because i wanted
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validation from people and not from god. and that was wrong when god already loved me for who i was uh, regardless i didn't need to seek validation from him because i already had validation from him. i just didn't know it um. and i heard my brother's. um and i hope that they can forgive me. and i want them to know that i love them, and they didn't deserve that. and i hope they can forgive me. um, and. that, um, i hope that they can heal and trust god. and know that god loves them. and that god is loving them through
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me letting them know that they're valuable and that they didn't deserve that just moments ago, north carolina governor roy cooper, who was the state attorney general at the time of the case, spoke about the new confession and why he dismissed charges back in 2007 as attorney general, it was important for me to take that case from the local prosecutor do an investigation to find the real truth. >> it is why i dismissed the charges and took the extra step to declare those players innocent of those alleged crimes. that's why i did that. >> joining us now is casey johnson, a history professor at brooklyn college and the coauthor of the book, until proven innocent political correctness and the shameful
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injustices of the duke lacrosse rape case. casey, thank you so much for being with us. what did you think when you heard this news it was an extraordinary development in one way, as as we just heard from from governor cooper, it wasn't a surprise. >> the state of north carolina had officially declared the the accused students innocent long ago. but crystal mangum had had never publicly admitted that she had lied for, you know, for the first time, i don't think anyone expected this coming. and so in many ways, it brings a final resolution to a case that never should have been brought in in the first place. >> so nearly two decades after the charges were dropped, the young men are now adults. how do you think this case altered their lives? and how do you think this apology lands with them? >> yeah, the you know, to the first question, anyone can just go on to google and their names
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are are permanently associated with uh, with, with this event even though again, the allegations themselves were were completely unfounded, the extraordinary amount of publicity this got, you know, 18 years ago and the relatively much less publicity that it got after the the governor or the now governor announced the, the innocence declaration. so in that respect, there was, you know, there was a significant approach. um, i think in some ways this was a it was a welcome acknowledgment that that the accuser lied and this was an odd case as as we heard from governor cooper, that the the primary villain in this case was the then durham district attorney, mike. mike nifong, who who committed all kinds of ethical improprieties. but but mangum admitting that that she lied, i think pretty much brings an end to anyone who would claim that that something happened at duke in 2006. >> you raised a significant point there because there were several factors beyond the
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false accusation that exacerbated this situation, including that d.a. who was disbarred because of his actions in the case. arguably, the university's response as well. uh, kind of painted these young men in a negative light. i wonder what you think can ultimately be learned from this to me, the core lesson of the duke lacrosse case is the danger to avoid a rush to to judgment, but also a willingness to be open to to new facts that contradict your your viewpoint. >> one of one of the the problems with the lacrosse case is that for people at duke professors, even the duke administration, their their argument was that this had to be true because it served their their broader interests, and they were unwilling to look at the the massive amounts of exculpatory evidence that came in as the case proceeded. >> casey johnson, we very much appreciate your perspective. thanks so much for joining us.
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>> thank you for having me. >> still to come, unitedhealth group ceo speaking out on the anger at the insurance industry that surfaced since one of its top executives was murdered on a manhattan street. we'll also have the latest on the case against the alleged gunman. plus, this could be a landmark ruling for reality tv. the labor board says that participants on a hit netflix show, love is blind, aren't just contestants looking for love, they're actually employees. what it could mean for reality tv. and later, going where no sock maker has gone before. how a japanese company plans to brew the beverage in space. all that and much more. coming up on cnn news central. can't fool myself. >> it was the most exciting time in the world. >> his life had extremely joyful moments and some really difficult moments. >> you only come across an artist like luther vandross once in a lifetime. luther. >> never too much new year's
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charles ramsey, who led the police forces of washington, d.c., and philadelphia. he's now a partner at 21 cp solutions. chief, thank you so much for being with us. i'm curious what you make of what d.a. bragg said there. and he went on to say that once extradition happens, he and his teams are moving forward to the next step. i imagine that would be an indictment. no. >> it will be. i mean, you know, an extradition is going to happen. it's just a question of when. >> and right now, as we speak, they're continuing to piece together this case. >> they've got a very strong case with forensic evidence. >> they've got evidence that taken from him with his own writings about his plans on, on, you know, executing someone from the health care industry. mr. thompson. um, they've got a very, very strong case. so it's going to move forward. it's going to move forward fairly quickly. he could very well fight extradition, but that fight is not going to last very long because new york
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eventually will get him back in the state. and they will proceed to charge and move forward with the trial. >> when he was charged, it struck me that in new york, he was charged with second and not first degree murder. and now we're learning why. legal analysts say that first degree murder in new york requires specific aggravating circumstances, including an intent to commit terrorism. given the evidence you've seen so far, is there a strong chance that this murder charge could wind up getting upgraded to first degree? >> well, it might. i mean, i'm not that familiar with new york law, but the bottom line is, even with second degree, i think it's 25 to life. and as far as i'm concerned, if convicted, this individual will and should spend the rest of his life behind bars. >> now, some of the search warrants are for the backpack and his cell phone, which were discarded or found abandoned.
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does that kind of evidence typically need a warrant absolutely. >> you want to make sure and you want to cover all the bases. i mean, this is a case. it wasn't a murder suicide or anything like that. so detectives knew right off the bat, eventually they would catch this person and there would be a trial. you have to be very careful with how you gather evidence and getting a search warrant is certainly something that's legally required to make sure that you've done things properly. unless there's an immediate threat or reason why exigent circumstances, why you would, uh, conduct a warrantless search, there was no need for a warrantless search in this particular case. so they they really covered things, i think, the way they should have. they've done it properly, whether it's the backpack trying to get into the cell phone. um, perhaps trying to lift prints out of the hostel where he was staying, the room where he was staying. if there's any computers or anything like that at a home or
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residence where he once stayed, i mean, wherever they go to try to collect evidence, they're going to do it with a search warrant now. and that way it will stand up in court. >> there was one development today that i think may alter some of the thought, some of the thinking about his motive, and that's unitedhealth group revealing that mangione isn't a client of the insurer. there's actually a note allegedly found on mangione in pennsylvania that said this, quote, united is the fifth largest company in the in the united states by market cap, behind only apple, google and walmart. it has grown and grown. how does the fact that united didn't serve the suspect impact this investigation? it appears that he didn't have a personal vendetta against them. >> well, i mean, maybe mr. thompson was a symbolic target, but it's not going to have any effect on the case. i mean, this was cold blooded murder. we saw it on video. we have forensic evidence that proves that he was there at theime.
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i mean, it is what it is. and so they've got all this other stuff swirling around, and certainly defense attorneys will be trying to use whatever they possibly can. bottom line, this guy is a cold blooded murderer. he is in jail and he needs to stay in jail. and for those people to somehow empathize with him, i think they're absolutely pathetic. this guy, you know, yeah, he has a story. go to any penitentiary in the united states and find people convicted of murder. they got stories, too. and i bet it doesn't include wealth or any other privilege in their life. but guess what? no story should end in murder. this guy is a murderer. nothing more, nothing less. and he needs to be in prison. >> powerful words from chief charles ramsey. appreciate the time, sir. thanks so much for joining us today. >> thank you. >> coming up, an unannounced visit to iraq, secretary of state antony blinken there, as the united states grapples with the implications of the
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the sudden collapse of syria's government, and blinken stressed the importance of iran not being allowed to go through iraq to move weapons to shia militias in syria. let's talk a little more about this now with david sanger, cnn political and national security analyst and the author of new cold wars china's rise, russia's invasion and america's struggle to defend the west. and, david, you write for the new york times today about this jockeying between who gets the credit between the u.s. and israel for laying the groundwork for the fall of bashar al assad's regime. what is president biden saying, and what is israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu saying? >> well, they're giving two very different accounts, brianna, of what led to assad's fall. >> president biden's account is that the u.s., by steadfastly sticking with israel by providing the arms to ukraine, to, uh, hold off the
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russians and by continuing pressure on iran, made sure that bashar assad had no one to turn to when the moment came that he needed them most. if you listen to prime minister netanyahu, you get a very different story. his story is because he ignored president biden's. uh, efforts to try to keep him from going to war with hezbollah for fear of a wider war. at the time, uh, he was able to attack hezbollah, destroy its leadership, kill its leadership, destroy its missile stores, and that at the end of the day, it was hezbollah that was not around to go. defend assad. and so assad was left defenseless. and basically, he says, had he not taken apart the elements of iran's axis along the way, hamas, hezbollah, that assad would still be there. and what
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it tells you is that these two men are ending their time together, uh, sort of the way they began it, fundamental odds about how you drive change in the middle east. >> yeah. and i mean, it's about legacy for both of them. but you might wonder if there could be more shared credit if they were on the same page a little bit more personally well, that's certainly true. >> these are two people who have made no effort to hide how much they detest each other. along the way. the fact of the matter is that you could make a case that both of these are true. certainly had the united states not come to the aid of of ukraine, the ukraine war would have been over two and a half years ago. and i think the russians probably would have been in a position to go help assad stay in power. instead, they fled as soon as as it fell
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apart. and i think it's a there's a big interest for the united states now to go push those two russian bases, uh, out of of syria. there's a large naval base there that gives russia its access out to the mediterranean. and and it's it's one big naval base outside of russia. and there's a big air base. um, so certainly you can score one for biden there. but it is also true that the biden administration urged netanyahu not to get into a war with hezbollah. he was much more successful than anyone in washington expected he would be. and that meant that the main instrument of of power that could have helped, uh, syria along the way, those hezbollah fighters, they were otherwise engaged. >> yeah. they weren't there to do it. there's so much that is
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in flux in the region right now. and trump coming back into the white house, adds another dynamic. so i wonder how you are seeing that impact things in the region potentially. >> well, the first and most interesting was that president trump last weekend, or president elect trump, uh, sent out on truth social, a message that basically said the united states should stay out of this. now, whether he meant the immediate set of actions that were pushing out assad or whether he meant stay out of syria, uh, in a longer and more general way, is a really interesting question. he was tempted to pull the u.s. base in syria, which has about 900 troops that are on an anti-isis counterterrorism, uh, operation. he was tempted to pull them out. he was talked out of it by his own aides. the fact of the matter is that the
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u.s. has such interests in how syria unfolds, that it ends up being a stable country and one that does not harbor terrorists, and one that does not upset the region. it is hard for me to imagine, once he is in office, in a little more than a month, that he will conclude that the u.s. has no interest there. we have huge interests there. how he wants, how much effort he wants to put behind that. we don't know. but it also tells you he's walking into a very different world, brianna, than the one he left four years ago yeah, certainly is. >> um, david, always great to have you. thank you so much thank you. >> great to be with you. >> so what if you could find out the weather two weeks in advance? artificial intelligence might make that possible. we're going to explain how, after a quick break.
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boundaries for worker protections on reality tv shows. joining us now is seth berenzweig, a business and compliance attorney and white collar defense lawyer. and, seth, listen, i think we're going to talk about kind of what may happen here in the long run. but no matter what happens in the long run is this filing some good news for contestants, at least in the issues that it raises and the fact that we're talking about this? >> well, it could be. we'll see what happens in the spring of next year, because in april, there's going to be a hearing that's been scheduled in this case. but this is really a big deal. and it really caught a lot of people by surprise. the labor agency here in washington has basically pulled a rabbit out of an employment law hat. they surprised everybody by coming in and really turning the law upside down by saying that reality tv contestants are employees, even though historically they have never been and it has not been,
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probably because it is really not consistent with the traditional nature of an employer employee relationship, where it's more of a long term type of business relationship where the employee falls within the scope of employment and performs regular duties for the employer. whereas on television someone is in a short term relationship, usually as a contractor. and these are people who are in a contest that can really leave in the short term at will. so this was something that's very unforeseen and has really turned that part of the industry upside down. >> yeah, this show seems to specialize on short term relationships. seth, i wonder if you think that by any chance it would lead to contestants potentially trying to unionize at some point, or to assert some more rights for themselves yes, it could, but in order for that to happen, this hearing has to conclude in the spring and it has to lead to a successful conclusion. >> one of the important
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background aspects of this case, which is also really interesting, is that you have a production company, delirium tv. and i think it's actually ironic that their name is delirium, because they must have been a delirium when they got themselves stumbled up with their antics to get caught. in this case, they went after in a heavy handed way, a former contestant who had said some not very nice things in the background, and they slammed her with a $4 million plus lawsuit trying to hold her liable under a non-disclosure agreement, injunction, attorney's fees and all the rest. and really, in reprisal and in sympathy for that contestant, the agency came in and slammed them back and has now retaliated with a complaint deeming this individual and similarly situated, situated people on television as employees. will it stand? it could. it also depends on what happens when the new administration takes over. but if this hearing does go forward, it can really fundamentally change the nature of how people are retained in the commercial space,
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especially as it relates to reality television. >> the the nlrb says love is blind contestants should be paid for any lost wages while they're on the show. there were allegations about whether they were pushed too hard when it came to non-disclosure agreements. there's also an issue, you know how they're treated. and i think i think sometimes as viewers, people watch this stuff for its entertainment value. and it doesn't always occur to people as viewers that, oh, wow, this might have been kind of a terrible living situation or a terrible condition for this person. and this is bringing some of that into the light. and i wonder if you think some of these smaller protections, if any of these regulations, could they stand i really don't think it's going to end up applying because it's really trying to fit a square peg into a round legal hole.
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>> yes. if this theory prevails, there's going to be a whole penelope, a whole basis and layers of laws that would apply as if they're able to unionize. and in fact, the section of the fair labor standards act is part of the docket that says that this was the creative filing and the basis for it. but the problem is that these are long term benefits and protections for people who are really on short term media projects. so it's really difficult to see how this is going to work. but the agency didn't care because they found a very sympathetic plaintiff. and the thing that's really interesting about this is that this could even extend beyond reality television. there are a lot of different variants on right now in in television and podcasting. what is this going to do? this could really overturn the entire apple cart in terms of employment law. so we'll have to really keep an eye on this. the trump administration may really change this when their new general counsel comes into the board. they may try to pull the
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plug. but right now, this is something that could be a fundamental change in the entertainment industry. >> yeah. >> and how often do you have an incoming administration where a president knows a thing or two about reality television, as it were? seth, thank you so much for your insight. really interesting. and we will keep an eye on it. thank you. when we come back, how a japanese sock maker is planning to brew a batch that is literally out of this world sarah vital advance has been such a game changer for me. >> sarah vital advanced increases your body's own youth hormone, reduces wrinkles and promotes weight loss. >> i see such a difference in my skin. >> i notice fewer wrinkles. >> my skin looks healthier. it was easier to get lean. i literally shed a few pounds in the first couple of weeks. >> it does give me that feeling of just being radiantly alive. >> sarah vital advanced the number one anti-aging therapy
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