followed a visit by the national security adviser, jake sullivan. and we also know that israeli teams have been in the qatari capital, as well as in cairo, over the course of the last week. and all of this, of course, indicates this kind of growing momentum in the direction of a deal. we have heard that hamas has compromised on certain matters, for example, appears to be more willing to allow israeli troops to remain along that philadelphia corridor during the first phase of a deal that was a major sticking point that ultimately helped to collapse these negotiations back in august, as the israeli prime minister insisted that troops must remain there and hamas demanded the opposite. so we are seeing progress. we are seeing exchanges of ideas. and again, the positivity is coming not only from some of the mediators from the united states, but also hamas, which yesterday said that they believe a deal is possible. a separate hamas source saying that there was a positive and optimistic atmosphere about these negotiations, but they

were also cautioning that new israeli demands could stall any further progress. and that is indeed a consideration. in the meantime, though, the the war is very much continuing in gaza in just the last 24 hours, the palestinian ministry of health has reported that 38 people have been killed and 203 people injured. the fate of those 100 hostages still hanging in the balance as well. of course. >> all right, jeremy diamond, thank you so much for your reporting. a new hour of cnn news central starts right now. >> we have new details about the 15 year old girl who is accused of killing a teacher and a fellow student at her wisconsin school, her home life in a new spotlight right now, as investigators are searching for a motive and now charged with first degree murder. luigi mangione indicted in new york, where prosecutors now say his alleged crimes amounted to

terrorism. and today, the attorneys representing three of sean combs accusers is speaking out. his clients, all men, say combs drugged and sexually assaulted them. that attorney is our guest. i'm kate baldwin with john berman and sara sidner. this is cnn news central. >> this morning, new insight into the wisconsin teenage girl who carried out a deadly school shooting on her school. a photo taken by her father at a gun range and posted on his social media page in august. she is wearing a black shirt with the name of a band whose lyrics were cited by the columbine killers in 1999. also this morning, new reporting in the washington post on the teen's, quote, turbulent family life and therapy that she may have been involved in. cnn's whitney wild in madison, wisconsin, with the latest on the investigation. good morning. whitney good morning

john. >> we are learning a little bit more to put into a more clearer picture of this child's experience here at the school, as well as her personal life and what we're learning from court records obtained by the washington post is that she had a turbulent childhood. john, her parents married and remarried at least three times. there was a separation agreement that required joint custody, and as part of that, john, she was shuttled between houses every few days. she would spend two days with one parent, two days with another parent, three days with another parent. and so the picture that is coming into clearer focus now is one of a pretty disjointed home life. further, cnn has spoken with a student whose locker was right next to natalie rupnow house. what we know from law enforcement was that she went by samantha and this child who spoke with cnn, said she didn't even know that her name was really natalee. she called her sam, and she described her as having not really having a friend group. and so, john, what this taken together all suggests is that

she had this very difficult home life. she seemed to be, according to this child, somewhat alone at school. and as we know, this all ended in an absolute tragedy. one of the big questions here, john, is whose gun was it? law enforcement tracing that firearm. police have not told us who that gun belonged to. and the other question, john, is, of course, how she got it. and then further, whether or not anybody specifically inside that building was targeted. police addressed that very question yesterday, saying that as far as they're concerned, everybody was a target. everybody was an equal danger. and the ripple effect here for parents and students will continue. here's what one father told cnn. >> students knew what to do, and they hid in the corners of their classrooms. my third grade son mentioned that his teacher stood between the door and where the kids were hiding with scissors, ready to do whatever she had to do to

defend the kids in that class. >> john, roughly 48 hours after that shooting happened. this is still a community deeply grieving. back to you. >> all right, whitney wild, we appreciate you being there and the work that you're doing. thank you very much, kate. >> prosecutors in new york, they now say that the murder of brian thompson unitedhealthcare ceo was an act of terrorism in an 11 count indictment just handed up by a grand jury. prosecutors now charge luigi mangione with first degree murder with an intent to commit terrorism, a rare charge in new york. tomorrow, mangione is set to return to a courtroom in pennsylvania to face a judge there once again. cnn's danny freeman is outside that court in pennsylvania with much more on this. it will be very busy there tomorrow, danny. talk us through these charges. first and foremost. >> yeah. it's going to be incredibly busy here at this courthouse tomorrow morning. but really, these new charges,

these new counts in that lengthy indictment that the district attorney in manhattan released yesterday, this really escalated the case against luigi mangione. that indictment, including that rare first degree murder charge and rare because it really requires special elements related to the crime and can come from just a narrow list of aggravating factors. that's why it was so serious. what we heard from the da yesterday. mangione also indicted by a grand jury for murder in the second degree. kate, as a crime of terrorism. so right off the bat, i want you to take a listen to how da alvin bragg really described the severity of these charges that he's bringing against luigi mangione. now this was a frightening, well-planned, targeted murder that was intended to cause shock and attention and intimidation. >> this was a killing that was intended to evoke terror and now, meanwhile, we're also

learning some more information about luigi mangione interactions with the outside world since he's been in prison. >> or perhaps better said, the outside world's attempt to interact with him since he's been behind bars. a spokesperson for the pennsylvania department of corrections. kate, we learned as of yesterday, luigi mangione has received 157 deposits into his prison commissary account. we also learned as of yesterday morning, mangione received 33 emails and six pieces of hard mail. that's up from just two pieces of mail that we reported he'd received back on monday night. still, though, the only visitors he has had has been his attorneys. but, kate, i want to turn now to what we're expecting to see tomorrow. like i said earlier, this whole court area is probably going to be very, very busy tomorrow because mangione is expected to have two hearings early tomorrow morning. the first one is going to be on those lesser pennsylvania charges, and then the second hearing is going to happen right after it's expected to be on extradition. but cnn's kara scannell reported that mangione is expected to waive this extradition hearing. and then

that means that he could be on his way back to new york, basically as soon as court is over. so we're going to see what ultimately plays out tomorrow. but this pennsylvania chapter of this story may conclude tomorrow morning. kate. >> all right. danny, thank you so much for staying on top of it for us. sara. >> all right. joining us now is cnn senior law enforcement analyst and former deputy director of the fbi, andrew mccabe. i want to first start, actually, with what happened in madison. there we were hearing from parents and students who are having to deal with yet another school shooting. the police chief, shawn barnes, says a combination of factors appear to be the motive of the shooter. give me your sense of the profile of that coming into view. now that we're getting some details about the 15 year old girl and her family life good morning sara. >> so we are getting a few details, but the operative word there being few. i think that the police have been extraordinarily disciplined in

limiting the amount of information about motive that has gone out so far, except that one hint that they think there were multiple factors. um, it is interesting that we have a writing that is yet to be authenticated, so we can't really rely on the details of that just yet. we know we have a female shooter, which is a bit of an anomaly, very rare that we see a female shooter. but my suspicion is that once we actually get the granularity of what went, what she was thinking, and you get that from looking at writings, you get that from talking to friends and associates that she might have revealed things to. you get that from looking at her. the search history on her internet connected devices. and once we have that, my guess is we're going to see a lot of the same things we see with male school shooters across the spectrum. and that is an experience characterized by isolation possibly being the victim of bullying, having an unstable or unsure environment

in the home. we have some supporting information for that now because of the washington post reporting this morning that her parents had a somewhat, i guess, on again, off again relationship and one that forced her into a joint custody agreement in which she was constantly moving houses every couple of days. you know, any one of those factors by itself? probably not enough to push a 15 year old to take such an awful step to make the decisions that she did. but it's the cumulative effect of many of those things on what may have been a fragile person to begin with that ultimately led her to this point. >> i want to talk about one detail that a lot of people noticed. and of course, investigators as well. there's this picture of her at the shooting range, and you see it there. she's on the right hand side of the screen, and she's wearing this t shirt. it is the same t-shirt that was worn by both columbine shooters. she wasn't even alive when that shooting happened 25 years ago.

does this give us a clue? what does it tell us? this. this small detail here about her? if anything. >> well, it's really fascinating that the picture tells us two things, really. the first is that we know she had some familiarity with weapons. we know that her father and his comment to the picture indicated that he and his daughter attended the shooting range frequently. none of that is necessarily nefarious. all kinds of children across the country are taught about firearms by their parents. but nevertheless, it shows a baseline level of familiarization with weaponry. but the t shirt, i think, is really significant. the the chances that her interest in that band, which as you mentioned, is an older actor who was popular long before she was born. the chances that her interest and the interest of the columbine shooters in the same band is a coincidence. i think are are infinitesimal. we

know that the columbine shooters are revered by by young people who are interested in or focused on the subject of school shootings, certainly the ones who go on to actually commit school shootings. many of them refer to columbine. they have a history of researching columbine. some of them actually visit the site. so if we find that this t shirt act is an expression of an interest in and maybe research of those school shooters, that tells us a lot about what she was thinking in the days, months, maybe even longer time period before the shooting took place, that it was a level of premeditation and planning that went into this. so i think it's a very disturbing detail at this point. >> andrew mccabe, it is always a pleasure to talk to you. thank you so much, john. >> all right. new this morning calls to charge liz cheney for her role in the january 6th committee. donald trump says she could be in trouble over allegations of witness

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they did. >> yeah, honestly, they should go to jail now we have this report that was released yesterday, and it really does follow in some ways what donald trump was arguing should happen. >> you also have some early reactions. now you have liz cheney saying in a statement, quote, january 6th showed donald trump for who he really is, a cruel and vindictive man who allowed violent attacks to continue against our capital. law enforcement officers while he watched television and refused for hours to instruct his supporters to stand down and leave. you also have bennie thompson, who was the chairman of the january 6th select committee, saying there's no escaping the reality that donald trump bears the responsibility for the deadly january 6th attack, no matter how much mr. loudermilk would love to rewrite history. now, i'll just point out that today on capitol hill, kash patel, who is donald trump's pick to lead the fbi, is going to be back on capitol hill meeting

with republican senators. and you can expect that this is going to be a course of questioning for many of them. you know, last week when kash patel met with john cornyn, who is a leading republican on the senate judiciary committee, i asked cornyn, are you confident that patel is going to be able to push back against donald trump if he asks you to do something you don't agree with, or if he asks you to break the law? and you know, one thing that cornyn said was that he wasn't sure that it was a strong question to ask that time would tell. and i think that that is just going to be a really interesting thing to watch this morning. does this come up in these meetings that patel has on capitol hill? how do republicans, especially those on the judiciary committee, how are they going to react to this? kate yeah, key questions. >> lauren. great to see you. thanks so much for putting it together for us. john. >> all right. this morning we will speak to the attorney representing three men who are accusing sean combs of drugging and sexually assaulting them. also, quote, it is an absolute clown show. frustrated

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kind of u.s. government operation, not any foreign threat. these are from people who were briefed on this by the intelligence community. how satisfied are you with those answers absolutely not. >> satisfied. in the state of new jersey. we have been witnessing this now going on week five. and from a state legislative standpoint, one week ago today, we were briefed at the new jersey state police. rock. however, that was a briefing called by governor phil murphy, who did not show up to the briefing. we were informed that the fbi at that time was the lead agency on this situation. the fbi was not present. we did have department of homeland security and our own office of homeland security and preparedness there, along with the state police. since then, it has been one week and we have gotten radio silence. other than hearing about this congressional briefing that happened. and my question is really quite simple. if there

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continue meeting with some of the senators who will decide his fate. >> trump's pick to head up the health and human services department is trying to secure republican senate support. he's also trying to calm the growing concern around his record, his long history of denying medical science, promoting medical conspiracy theories, and declaring things like there's no vaccine that is safe and effective. he said that in july of 2023. and here he was while making the rounds on the hill this week. >> mr. kennedy, senator murkowski said that she wants you to say that that vaccines save lives. >> do you believe that vaccines save lives? thank you. >> is it your plan to end all childhood vaccines, sir? >> sir, have you talked about pesticides with any of us? >> want to tell parents? what do you tell parents who are concerned about the prospect of getting rid of some vaccines? >> right here? >> is that something you're discussing with senators, sir joining me right now is a member of the fda vaccine

advisory committee, the director of the vaccine education center at children's hospital of philadelphia, doctor paul offit. >> doctor offit, thanks for coming back in. i want to go through with you. some of what we're hearing is coming out of these meetings that kennedy is having on the hill. here's john thune top republican in the senate. he said, i think he understands the value and benefit that vaccines play and have played through the years, preventing disease. does kennedy's record reflect that not at all. >> he believes that we have simply traded in infectious diseases for chronic diseases. he thinks that that vaccination and pasteurization have made us unhealthy. he has consistently said that vaccines don't work, that they're unsafe, and that when data show him that he's wrong, like the notion that mmr or measles mumps rubella vaccine causes autism, he simply doesn't believe it because he has a fixed, immutable belief system that he holds with the strength of a religious conviction. he is a

virulent anti-vaccine activist. why would we think he would behave any differently with the were he to be the head of health and human services, which in that point is why i want. >> i'm hoping you can translate or help me understand some of the other things coming out and being said from these meetings. senator josh hawley said this of his meeting that kennedy wants a quote unquote, top to bottom review of the science behind vaccines, saying he just made the point that the number of vaccines has gotten required. vaccines for children, in particular, has exploded. and he said he wanted to go back through carefully the science on all of those. add to that doctor offit what rick scott said of his meeting with rfk. listen to this. >> what he wants with vaccines is. which is why i believe in is transparency. i think we we we need to know exactly with all vaccines what what has been the the research and and, you know, do they work. and what's your risk?

>> i have heard this transparency line and this top to bottom review line more than once coming from rfk. and to remind everyone you sit on the fda vaccine advisory committee. what is he getting at with this do they work? >> we want to know whether or not they work. i mean, you have take the hepatitis b vaccine, which was introduced in 1991. prior to that introduction, 18,000 children less than ten years of age would get hepatitis b, which would often lead to liver cancer or chronic liver disease cirrhosis. we've essentially eliminated that rubella virus, which would, when it infected pregnant women, would cause 20,000 cases of birth defects every year. blindness, deafness, heart defects. we eliminated that virus from this country in 2005. measles would cause 48,000 hospitalizations and 500 deaths and a thousand cases of encephalitis, meaning brain swelling every year. we eliminated that disease by 2000

because. but now it's come back to some extent because a critical percentage of parents have chosen not to vaccinate their children. transparency. i mean, any time a vaccine is put onto the schedule, you have to prove that it doesn't interfere with the safety or immunogenicity profile of existing vaccines, and that those existing vaccines don't interfere with the safety or immunogenicity profile of that vaccine. and when vaccines roll out, they very quickly tested in millions of children. you saw that with the covid vaccines, when the covid vaccines rolled out in december of 2020, very quickly, you found out that the mrna vaccines were a very rare cause of myocarditis, inflammation of the heart muscle, 1 in 50,000. when the j&j vectored virus vaccine rolled out in february of 2021, you found out very quickly that it was a very, very rare cause, 1 in 250,000 of clotting. of course, they're tested for safety, and all those data are open to everybody. i don't know what they're talking about. >> and that's and if

everyone's wondering how can doctor offit say all of these numbers so quickly? it's because this is real data. these are real numbers. this is real and available research and data that has you have seen you have and is available to the public. one thing that i wanted to ask you about, tommy tuberville said that he and rfk, they discussed how they grew up in a generation where they received just three vaccines. he talked about tuberculosis, smallpox, polio, and noting how that has now grown to the dozens and the way tuberville talked about it to cnn is that he says that he wants parents to understand the good, the bad and the ugly with vaccines, rather than forcing parents to give them to kids. what do you what do you hear in that you know, so tommy tuberville said, look, rfk jr. and i only got three vaccines and we're both fine. >> that's called survivor bias. i mean, the notion is that that, you know, we were fine. so therefore everybody else is fine. this this thing

about transparency is very upsetting to me, because you can see all the data that everybody else sees. it's all open to the public. i mean, when we, the fda vaccine advisory committee, reviewed, for example, the covid vaccines in december of 2020, we reviewed about 800 pages of of data. that was all on fda's website for anybody to look at. i don't know what tommy tuberville is talking about, but one thing that tommy tuberville said that should be a key to exactly what rfk jr. is going to do is, he said, i just talked to rfk jr.. and he he we talked about how do we really need all these vaccines that tells you everything about what rfk jr. is about to do. he is about to do everything he can to destroy the vaccine program in this country. and i think it is a dangerous time to be a child in the united states of america. >> it's it makes me so sad to hear you say that your entire career is based on trying to protect children of america. and that and again, it sounds like listen to what rfk is saying. he's telling you what he's going to do. seems to be

the it seems to be part of the message here is as he goes and returns now to the hill for more meetings with more senators. doctor offit, thank you so much. we'll continue this conversation. sarah. >> all right. president elect donald trump appears to have flip flopped on tiktok. he was then, when he was in office, pushing for a ban in 2020. and now he says he has a warm spot in his heart for the social media platform and met with its ceo. the platform is facing a looming ban that could begin just a day after donald trump takes office. cnn senior data reporter harry enten is here, harry. the popularity of the app might just be potentially playing a role in all of this. just how popular is tiktok at this moment? >> yeah, i mean, look, there's politics at play here, right? and, you know, you go back a nearly i can't believe march of 2023 is nearly two years ago. but regardless, support banning tiktok in march of 2023. look, it was right at 50%. look at how this number has dropped over time. you go to october of 2023 already

dropped to 38%. now you go august of 2024. it's just 32%. so surprise, surprise surprise, politics may be playing a role here. supporting a ban of tiktok was quite popular a little under two years ago, and now it's just only about a third proposition here, which is 32% supporting it. no wonder donald trump might be changing his mind on this issue. >> that was my thought. who is tiktok most popular with? what are we looking as far as age and who who's using it? >> yeah. all right. so look, it might not be so much of a surprise if you understand tiktok. you watch the videos on there. you understand that i'm not exactly quite sure how to work tiktok because i have aged out of the age 18 to 29 year old group. look, 59% of those under the age of 30 who are adults use tiktok. it drops down to 40%, drops down to 26% among age 50 to 64, and then you get to age 65 plus, and it's just 10%. donald trump

likes the youngins and the youngins like tiktok. >> i have to say, this just tells you a lot about generational gaps here, right? >> they watch television, they argue. yes, that's exactly right. they watch television. they watch tiktok. >> all right. so why is it that donald trump might have a soft spot for for young people? >> yeah. why does donald trump want what the youngins want? it's because look, if you look at the trump versus democrat margin, you look at voters under the age of 25, you go back to 2020. look, joe biden won this group overwhelmingly. look at that by 34 points. you look at 2024. look kamala harris won it. but just by 11 trump gained more among voters under the age of 25 than any other age group. if you think of young people as being democrats, while they may still lean democrat, not in any way in the same numbers that they used to just even four years ago, donald trump doing considerably better among younger voters. and i think that is part of the reason why he wants to do what younger voters want to do. >> very interesting. harry enten, thank you so much. thank you, john.

>> all right. this morning, families in madison, wisconsin waiting to learn more from police after a teenage girl opened fire on a classroom inside her private christian school. with me now is wisconsin state assemblyman jerry o'connor, who says the shooting happened just outside his great niece's classroom. representative, thank you so much for being with us. let me just first ask, you have a great niece and nephew at this school. how are they this morning they're doing fine. >> i think it's going to be a little bit of time as they reflect back on what happened. um, my nephew could hear bodies hitting the floor. uh, i great niece across the hall could hear gunshots. and as i understand it, there were nine people in the room, and the shooter shot eight of them. and the final shot was to her own head. so it's a terribly sad situation. i also have a brother in law that's a basketball and golf coach

there. and i have a brother who's brother in law is the school principal. so i have a lot of connections to the school and there are a lot of hurting families in that. madison area today. >> look, i'm so sorry that they went through that. and i particularly grieve along your great niece and nephew. it must have been hard for you when you were getting word of this shooting, given you have so many connections with the school. >> it was, uh, in fact, i was sitting in a restaurant in nashville on monday morning, and i looked at a news headline and said, there have been shootings at abundant life christian school more to follow. so we literally were watching this as it unfolded or listening to it as once we hit the road back to wisconsin. so it's pretty distressing, uh, for anyone that's associated with that school. >> look, questions then turn to how to prevent this in the future. and one of the things that has shifted in the legal

landscape over the last several years is the culpability of parents involved. what they could have known or should have known or did know. this is an early stages of the investigation, and without getting into specifics of this case, as a lawmaker, how much responsibility, generally speaking, do you think parents can or should bear? >> well, that's a challenging question. in a broad sense. i think we really need to have a protocol with law enforcement that has some parameters as to how we look at this. certainly, our district attorney in dane county and state attorney general are looking at this as well as it would be throughout wisconsin. uh, we want to learn from this experience. so it's not repeated in the future. >> one of the things that's distressing and again, we don't know what it means, is we've now seen a photo posted on the father, the father of

the shooter's social media page at a gun range, which a lot of people go to. but the girl, the shooter is wearing a t shirt that has a band name. that band names. lyrics were cited by the columbine shooters back in 1999. now, we don't know if there's a direct connection, but it would seem a strange coincidence that she would be wearing a t-shirt with an old band. an old band that mattered to some of the more notorious school shooters out there. it just does raise questions about whether what's influencing kids right now, what are their influences, and how do we see them before it's too late? >> i don't know if you've had a chance to see a manifesto that has been verified, to have been penned by the shooter, but she was in social media and she literally lifts up and. uh, honored killers around the world, not just killing or

killings or shootings here in america, but in other parts of the world. so she was definitely in a bad place for anyone to be following these kinds of events. and that was part of her own planning process. um, that is something we need to be looking at on the broad scale of how do you control messaging without controlling freedom of speech, but these end up being dangerous circumstances for a very few individuals. but if that individual crosses a certain line, as evidenced in this manifesto, um, bad things happen. >> yeah. again. last i heard, the police have been careful to say they are working to confirm the authenticity of it. who wrote it, how it was written, where it is. but it is one of the pieces of evidence they're digging into wisconsin state assemblyman representative jerry connor, thank you for being with us this morning. appreciate it. >> kate. his family's story

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latest three accusers, thomas giuffra, thank you so much for coming in. thank you for having me. i want to ask you, there are dozens of people coming forward, some to you, some to another >> sort of stuck with you. that said, i have to, i have to go forward with this. well, i think the person who was his goal for really struck me when he regained consciousness and sean spicer

him i'm almost done. >> held still. and that struck me. that was a powerful recollection. and i was struck by it and just the rawness and the arrogance, actually, that went along with it and the entitlement. so that was the one that really stuck with me. >> i want to ask you, because your clients are filing for now, anonymously. correct. why? >> every single one of them. after the rapes were threatened, they were threatened with physical harm. they were told, if you do anything, it's not going to be good for you. and sean combs is not somebody who runs around with a bunch of choirboys. and those threats are very real to all of these men. one of them knew him from the neighborhood, knew the people he ran with, and knew that these were not empty threats. these were not a bunch of lawyers and offices somewhere. these are guys who can follow through, make your life and cause you physical

harm. so they were terrified. >> you know the law better than i do, that defendants have to be able to face their accusers. and in another case, a judge did say, look, this was filed anonymously, but you now have to reveal your name. and she did indeed reveal her name. are your clients willing, if that's what transpires to if it comes to pass, that's a discussion we'll have to have. >> i think. my own personal opinion, as somebody who represents people who are the survivors of abuse is this is another device by which the abusers try to abuse them and intimidate them. so i think, frankly, if it was me and i was in washington or i was in albany writing the law, i would say any abuser should be able to proceed anonymously. but that's just not the law. they leave it to a judge. >> we know that there are several cases going. simultaneously, correct, including a criminal case. has anyone contacted you or your clients from the federal government, from federal investigations, to ask for details to. >> not at this time. not at this time, no. okay. but we

only filed it, you know, in the last few days. >> i know you saw what combs has said about your clients. full of lies. these stories are full of lies. what do you say to to him and his attorneys? >> well, what else are they going to say? they're not going to say they're true. they're going to say the typical thing that's said in every single one of these cases, that these are untrue. it's made up, it's phony. it's just a monetary shakedown. what else can they do? he's sitting in lockup in brooklyn right now, charged with these very same things. and he really has no defense other than to badmouth the people who are suing him, badmouth the lawyers. and that's what he's doing. >> your case stands out in in several ways, but it highlights. men talking about, you know, what they say happened and talking about sexual abuse. how difficult is it for the clients to talk about sexual assault and how often have you. i mean, how rare is it for men to come

forward? >> well, the one thing i've learned is statistically, 9% of all rapes in this country involve men that are reported. i think it's no different for men than women to come forward. i think any time somebody is a victim of sex abuse, it's difficult. it doesn't matter the gender. >> did he have difficulty speaking about. well, the sexual abuse they did. >> and thankfully i've done it a long enough time and i know how to speak to people. and i try to show the empathy and listen to the story and try to make them feel safe, because it's really they've lost all the power. that's the whole thing about sexual abuse. they take power away from these people and to get them to kind of communicate can be challenging at times because it's difficult. >> yeah. thomas gifford, thank you so much. >> thank you so much for having me. all right. appreciate it. >> a new hour of cnn news central starts right now a turbulent home life. >> there is new reporting ou