doesn't really surprise me to see this, moana two, moana two. >> well, yeah. >> yeah. i mean, i kind of can't blame them on some level. like it's a little bit sad that this story line, which again, why did it need to be in it affects very a very teeny tiny fraction of kids. why did it need to be in. but it's also sad. like why did it need to be censored. but on the other hand, like i answered, why it's not being censored, they created it and they took it out with that topic, with that issue. my point is like, what does disney have to gain right from from the whole thing? >> there are plenty of story lines also in the context of a sports team, which is one of the more controversial aspects of also true of trans life. >> talk about the third rail here. but i mean, i think we're looking at the dollars and cents for a lot of these companies. everyone, thank you for watching news night. cnn's coverage continues next this is cnn breaking news.

>> hello, warm welcome to our viewers. joining us from around the world. i'm max foster. thursday, december the 19th, beginning in avignon, france, where dominique pelicot has just been found guilty on all charges in the mass rape of his wife, giselle. and organizing that we're awaiting verdicts now for dozens of other defendants whom pellico had recruited to sexually abuse his wife for nearly a decade, this has been one of the darkest criminal cases in france's modern history, one in which gisele pelicot was determined to make public, hoping to help other sexual abuse victims. she's become an icon. prosecutors are seeking the maximum 20 year prison sentence for dominique pelicot and lower sentences for the other defendants. melissa bell, standing by for us at the courthouse in avignon. when do we get the actual sentence then? melissa? >> well, for the time being, max, what's happening inside that courthouse behind me is

they're going through the verdicts of each of the men, more than a dozen of them now found guilty. >> the sentences we understand will be announced afterwards. essentially, they face sentences from between 4 to 20 years. in the case of dominique pelicot and a few others. and of course, as you can see by the amounts of people outside this courtroom today, max, this is a trial that has been so extensively followed, it isn't simply the gravity of what these men are accused of having done. it isn't the scale of this trial. france's largest mass rape trial in modern history? it is, of course, also at the very heart of this trial. the courage of gisele pelicot. we watched her arrive a short while ago to the cheers of the crowd, shouting, merci, madame, merci, giselle, for her courage, essentially by waiving her anonymity. what she did is not simply waive that of the men accused of her rape, but also placed at the heart of the trial and for the trials to see

and the journalists to follow and then transcribe the details of the acts that were captured on camera by dominique pelicot their violence against his own wife, captured over a decade. what we're talking about, investigators say, is 200 rapes captured on those appalling videos that were recorded by dominique pelicot. remember also, simply found because he was caught one day in a supermarket trying to film up women's skirts, a particularly vigilant guard at that supermarket insisted the woman take it on to police. it was only then that police, looking through his phone and computers, found the horrors of what had been captured by dominique pelicot. over that time. gisele pelicot then discovering it for himself and again through her courage. the courageous decision to waive her anonymity, the wider world, hearing the very sordid details of what went on and what these men are now accused of, 50 of them in court here today, one

of them still on the run, and i think, chillingly, investigators saying that there are many other men also captured on those videos that they were simply unable to identify. so the scale of what gisele pelicot has been through, matched only by her extraordinary courage in in being willing to speak about it. and she's been very clear about why this is for other women to understand that. in her words, if madame pellico could speak out, so then can other victims of sexual abuse max the maximum sentence, as i understand it, is 20 years. >> it's difficult to see how the judge won't impose that. but so much commentary. i know in france that you know that just does not speak to the gravity of the crime that this man carried out. so there's an issue here, isn't there, with the sentencing rules to it appears i think that's right. >> there's been a lot said about these sentences and how

they simply don't reflect the barbarity, the violence, the destruction of what was done to gisele pelicot over so many years. i think this is a trial that raises a lot of questions about that, but also about the question of consent. one of the fascinating things about this trial again followed, as publicly as it has been, has been the defense of these men. very few recognize their guilt. many of them argued that they believed they were duped by dominique pelicot into engaging in some kind of sordid sex game, whereby his wife was pretending to be asleep, and others still said that they believed that by the presence of the husband, the wife's consent was a given. so these questions are now profoundly societal ones, and i think that was exactly gisele pelicot point. and you can hear there the cries of joy coming out of the crowd, the support for gisele pelicot also translated into relief that the verdicts so far, certainly for dominique pelicot, have found him guilty on all counts and little by

little, as we hear, man after man after man found guilty on these charges, you're going to hear this crowd react. we've been hearing it throughout the morning. rapists. we see you. they've been chanting and as gisele pelicot arrived again, huge support. thanks for what she's done in the name of women everywhere and for shining this extremely uncomfortable light not only on these 51 men, but more broadly on the question of how so many men could, night after night, have come into a home, found a woman clearly unconscious, and never raised the alarm? >> yeah, she really is an inspiring figure, isn't she? melissa, back with you as we get those sentences. thank you. still a month away from donald trump's return to the white house, but he's already having a major influence on business in washington this time. effectively tanking a bipartisan bill that would have funded the government through to mid-march, forcing lawmakers back to the drawing board. in a social media post on wednesday, trump complained about what he

called democrat bells and whistles in the stopgap measure, and he even threatened any republicans who backed the plan. coincidentally or not, elon musk posted a similar message just hours before calling for harsh action against dissenting republicans. but no one is drawing as much ire as house speaker mike johnson, the man who helped negotiate the bipartisan bill. republicans say he allowed too many add ons to the deal and a warning his time as speaker may be in jeopardy. >> it's a complete monstrosity. >> yeah, no, i don't think it was handled well at all, but it's kind of par for the course for this town. >> and we've now added 330 billion, by my count, in deficit spending unpaid for. it's just it's just i said earlier, we're profoundly unserious on spending. they got a bunch of garbage they want to pass. so they'll attach emergency things to it. like, you know, for the hurricane relief or the farmers or what

have you. to me, it's gutless. >> so you won't vote for him. >> he does not have my vote. >> will you change your mind? >> it would take a christmas miracle. >> we just won the elections. we have a mandate and he's giving away the farm. he's turned this thing into a christmas tree. i'm wondering why we have control of congress. if we're not going to do what we say we're going to do. >> do you think the speaker, given the way he's handled this, deserves to be reelected on january 3rd? >> i think there's going to be a debate on it if if we're not careful, we'll be we'll be having some serious debate. >> well, after doing those interviews, manu gave us his thoughts. >> donald trump torpedoing a carefully negotiated bipartisan compromise to avoid a government shutdown by the end of the week, this negotiation had happened behind closed doors for several weeks, and ultimately a deal was reached. it came out just last night. that deal, about 1500 pages in length. it had a whole wide range of provisions. but the most significant part, it would

extend government funding until mid-march to avoid a shutdown. now, throughout the course of the day, anger began to build on the right. republicans, particularly conservative members, said that it was a bad deal that mike johnson, the speaker of the house, cut with democratic leaders and cut with the white house. they pointed to a number of provisions that they did not like in there. there were some politically toxic measures as well, such as raising the such as raising the salary, given a salary increase to members of congress. but perhaps most significantly, it was elon musk who came out to oppose the bill very loudly calling on members to vote for the bill to be essentially lose their elections. and it wasn't just musk. after musk came out in his opposition, then donald trump himself came out opposed to the measure. he and jd vance issued a scathing statement over this bill. he attacked the bill. and he also added a highly complex issue on top of it. he is now demanding that congress raise the national debt limit, avoid the first ever debt default that could

have happened next year. he wants that done now because he doesn't want to deal with it when he's president, even though doing so is a highly complicated issue that will be very difficult to resolve in just two days. that's one reason why republicans and democrats alike have concerns, including this republican senator. are you frustrated? >> i'm very frustrated. can you tell but i'm frustrated with a smile. >> i mean, are you frustrated with the with the president elect? with the president elect? >> i'm frustrated with with his team to to not have engaged sooner than this. >> do you think trump should have made his demands earlier? >> well, that would have been very helpful. yeah. i mean, maybe he hadn't thought about it until just today, but yeah, that would have been very helpful. >> is it realistic to raise the national debt limit in two days? >> i would not think so. i would not think so. but, you know, it's almost christmas. it's amazing what people might do to get home now, how this gets resolved. >> it remains an open question, but there is considerable

concern and frustration within the ranks. republicans don't think it's realistic to add the national debt limit. democrats say they don't want to negotiate, and if they do negotiate the debt limit, they're going to demand a whole host of measures that probably will go too far for elon musk and donald trump. so how this gets resolved remains a major question, as yet another crisis moment begins to engulf washington. manu raju, cnn, capitol hill. >> political experts warn that this could be the way important government decisions are made in the us for the next few years either adhere to the plan set out by donald trump and his followers, or face losing your position in washington altogether. >> president musk this morning made it clear with all his vast government experience, which is basically he became rich on the federal government that he doesn't want republicans to pass this. and seemingly vice president trump kind of backed him up then at that point. and what it says about the politics is this is going to be a messy four years. the whole debt ceiling thing. donald trump is

making it clear that he wants the debt ceiling to go up. by the way, the debt ceiling is going to have to go up, but he doesn't want to have to take ownership for it because he will again for four years, look at the democrats and blame them. and so what this says about the politics is good luck for the next four years. i don't think they'll shut the government down because ultimately they'll want to get home for christmas. they'll do like a one month cr pretending like that's going to fix everything. but yeah, i mean, i think president elon has made it clear what his agenda is going to be for the next four years. >> everyone who's watching this should strap on their seatbelts, because this is what the next four years are going to be like. and and, and speaker johnson ought to be strapping on his parachute because i don't know how he's going to have a narrower margin come january. and, you know, if this is if he's in this kind of jam, now, imagine where he's going to be then i don't know what's going to happen to him. >> well, there is economic

uncertainty around the globe, really, ahead of donald trump's second term in the white house, the u.s. federal reserve, shaken by the possibility of tariffs that could keep inflation high for the next several years, the fed cut interest rates by a quarter of a point on wednesday, as expected, but the central bank is now forecasting only two rate cuts next year instead of four. fed chair jerome powell says economic growth and the job market look good for next year. but inflation must come down more quickly. >> we've had a year end projection for inflation and it's kind of falling apart as we approach the end of the year. so that is certainly a large factor in people's thinking. i can tell you. that might be the single biggest factor is inflation has once again underperformed relative to expectations. it's still, you know, going to be between two and a half and three. it's way below where it was. but you know we really want to see progress on inflation. >> well the fed's outlook sent wall street into a sell off. the dow fell more than 1100

points, extending its losing streak to ten days, which is the worst since 1974. since marc stewart live for us in beijing, you've covered the ups and downs of the markets for many years, and there's nothing they hate more than uncertainty, and we just don't know how this is going to play out in the next presidency. >> absolutely, max, it's just after 5:00 in the afternoon, and it proved to be a rough trading day today. based off those remarks, in part by the chairman of the federal reserve. certainly we hope it's not an indication of what you will see later today in europe. and of course, when the us markets open just after 9:00 eastern time. but when you hear the fed chair talk about inflation and uncertainty, it's hard to feel excited when we talk about inflation. of course, we have to talk about interest rates. that is the cost of borrowing money. so for an american, for example, who is looking to buy perhaps a car

made in japan or some high end fashion made in europe, the interest rate that they will pay on their credit card bill will likely remain elevated for quite some time. the fed chair, saying that the potential for more interest rate cuts is something that's just going to have to be tempered in the year ahead. looking to 2025, he's expressing a lot of caution. let's take a listen to more of what the fed chair had to say from washington. >> the point about uncertainty is it's kind of common sense thinking that when the path is uncertain, you go a little bit slower. it's not unlike driving on a foggy night or walking into a dark room full of furniture. you just slow down yeah, no one wants to hear the fed chair say the word slow down. >> i did talk to one source today who felt that the reaction we've seen so far on wall street has been, quote, way overrated. a little bit

exaggerated. um, but again, this also may serve as an opportunity for people to start buying, especially as we look closer to christmas. there's this idea of a santa claus rally when people just get excited about the holidays and the festivities that we do see wall street start to climb. max, as we've discussed many times, the markets are fickle, and if there is any opportunity for people to celebrate over any kind of morsel of good news, it's something that likely we will see. we just need that nugget to happen, so to speak. >> absolutely. mark in beijing. appreciate it as ever. thank you now to the deadly school shooting in madison, wisconsin. investigators are looking into a possible connection between the shooter and a 20 year old california man who authorities say was plotting a mass shooting with the teenager. officials have identified the two people killed in the school shooting. one is a 14 year old student, rubi vergara. 42 year

old teacher erin michelle west also died. new details are now emerging about the 15 year old female student who carried out the shooting before killing herself. cnn's whitney wild has that story reporter families of students at abundant life christian school returning to the scene of a horrific crime. >> retrieving belongings. the first step in a long road to healing. >> it's going to be hard going into the school again. after all the like, fear and trauma. >> mackenzie wilson had a locker next to the shooter, 15 year old natalie rupnow. >> she was really quiet. she didn't really have any friends. and like, she just seemed really lonely. and she was just like, it wasn't like she was trying to like, fit in. she seemed very, like content being alone. i guess. >> this is new details are emerging about rupnow, who opened fire at a private christian school in madison, wisconsin, monday, killing two and wounding six others. according to court documents

obtained by cnn, her parents married and divorced twice within the span of about ten years. the documents show a complicated arrangement, with natalie moving between homes every 2 to 3 days. ultimately, her father, jeff, had primary custody, with regular visits from her mother, and they lived roughly 40 minutes apart. the documents also show that natalie attended therapy, and her parents were encouraged to join her. neither jeff nor melissa rupnow have responded to cnn's multiple requests for comment, but court documents say at one point reported a generally positive co-parenting relationship. police say rupnow parents, jeff and melissa, are cooperating with the investigation. according to police, rupnow used a handgun in the attack, but it's unclear how she obtained the weapon. a facebook photo posted by rupnow father in august shows her at a shooting range. a comment from her dad on the photo says they joined the range in the spring and quote, we have been loving every second of it. she's also seen wearing a kmfdm shirt, a german industrial rock band whose lyrics were cited by the shooters at the columbine high

school massacre in 1999. in colorado, the band at the time condemned that horrific attack. the band's music also accompanied a tiktok post from dylan butler shortly before he opened fire at a school in iowa in january, killing a sixth grader and wounding seven. police say they're looking into rupnow activity online. experts say any social media footprint left behind by rupnow is crucial to the investigation. in order to get to that motive, investigators will have to rely on witnesses. >> any writing she left behind and a deep dive into her social media history to see if there's any indication why she conducted this heinous act, a heinous act that took the life of a teacher who wilson says was popular among students. >> she really loved her kids, and she really, really loved everyone at her school, and she would have done anything for them. looking back, i wish i had gone. i could have gone back and given her a hug mckenzie's mom, lindsay, went to school here too. >> she started at the school when she was just eight years old. and what is so clear? talking to mckenzie and lindsay

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hear their sentences, that of dominique pelicot, which we've just learned. the man who was accused of recruiting these other men to rape his wife and filming the acts over the course of nearly a decade. he gets that maximum sentence of 20 years that was requested by prosecutors, two thirds of which will have to be served in jail. he'll also be inscribed on a sex offenders registry. little by little, we're going to get the rest of the sentences. remember, again, this is a trial extraordinary in its nature, in its scale. so the judge is going through verdict by verdict and then sentence by sentence. so far, guilty verdicts for the men and that we were really waiting to hear about dominique pelicot, the architect of his wife's abuse over so many years. and it is the maximum sentence that he has now received. and each

time we've heard fresh news outside the courthouse of verdicts being delivered, sentences being handed down, there have been cheers out here from many of those people who've come out day after day to support gisele pelicot, not just her courage to show their support for what she's gone through, but to thank her as we watched her arrive earlier. this is what they were shouting. thank you, giselle, for having chosen to make this trial public and having chosen thereby, in her words, to see shame. change camps and end up properly where it belonged with the men sitting in that box today, hearing their sentences read out, max, do we expect to hear from giselle? >> she's obviously emerged, as you say, as this not just a french icon and a heroine, but also a global one. people want to know whether or not she feels this is justice, because i think a lot of people already on social media are saying 20 years certainly wasn't enough

i think. >> i think gisele pelicot has really attracted the world's attention, partly, of course, for her act of choosing to make this public. she didn't have to. she requested it. there were a lot of implications involved in that, not least the witnessing day after day, of the videos of what had been done to her. she chose that very bravely, but i think she's also touched a nerve because of the dignity with which she's done it. a great deal of humility as well, she said over and over again, i am just a normal person, and in many ways, although she's at the center of this trial, in the heart of it, and the focus of so much attention, she's really insisted day after day that this isn't just about her, it's about the victims of all sexual abuse. and she's explained that that was why she chosen to make the trial public. in her words, she wants other victims of sexual abuse to say madame pellico could do it, could speak out, could ensure that shame was in the other camp than i can too. so i think it is that bravery. it is the sense of what she's doing

for others that has touched a nerve. and also, i think the fact that this case doesn't just shine a very harsh light on these particular men and their particular acts and guilt, it also shines a light. light. perhaps more importantly, on societal questions, the question of how so many men could have thought it was okay to turn out of a house, find a clearly unconscious woman, do what they did, and none of them ever take that further or report it, or raise alarms about what might be happening to this women. again, these are acts that took place over nearly a decade, and the only reason the world found out was that one day dominique pelicot was found in a supermarket trying to film up women's skirts, the contents of his phone, then discovered otherwise. gisele pelicot might not have learned of it. the world might not have learned of what was done to her, and therefore these questions might not have ever been brought to light. max. >> melissa, thank you so much for bringing us that sentence. 20 years. then for the mass rape of his wife, organizing

that an extraordinary day in french history. i think that we're also watching live pictures coming out from moscow. the russian president there, vladimir putin, addressing his annual press conference. right now he is talking about key domestic issues, including the economy. the big question is, will he say anything about the fighting in ukraine and whether he'll address the recent assassination as well of a senior russian general, which the kremlin blames on kyiv? clare sebastian monitoring the speech will join us later in the show for any global highlights for you. we'll be back in just a moment.

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french president emmanuel macron, now in mayotte, just days after cyclone devastated the french territory. at least 31 people are confirmed dead so far, but local officials fear the death toll could eventually be in the thousands. the cyclone flattened neighborhoods, knocked out electrical grids and destroyed hospitals too. now, the british teen charged in the deadly knife attack on a on a dance class in england, has pleaded not guilty to murder and other crimes. the 18 year old is charged with killing three girls and wounding ten other people in a stabbing attack at a children's dance class in july. the attacks sparked rioting across england and northern ireland, fueled by far right activists. the violence injured more than 300 police officers and led to the attacks on hotels, housing migrants. after the suspect was falsely identified as an asylum seeker. the trial is expected to begin on january the 20th. president elect donald trump's pick for

border czar says the incoming administration is ready to implement mass deportations. but he told cnn that they'll need major funding from congress and a minimum of 100,000 beds for detention centers. tom homan explained to cnn why trump wants to deport undocumented immigrants. >> if you're in the country illegally and you got to deportation, we're going to arrest you. we're going to detain you, we're going to remove you. if you have a us citizen child, if they if they chose after they come to the country illegally and chose that should've been ordered removed to have you're a us citizen child and think, okay, the court order doesn't mean anything anymore. the removal order doesn't mean anything anymore. then what kind of message are we sending to the whole world? go ahead and cross the border illegally. this is a crime. ignore a judge's order of deportation, but have a baby and you're fine. if we do that, then shut down the immigration court because the orders don't mean anything anymore. and take the border patrol off the border. we can't send a message to the whole world that you can

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sentence that can be passed down for this kind of crime. france is quite notorious for having really quite lax. um, sentencing. you know, we, we often see cases of really horrific crimes against children of a sexual nature and women, and we see sentences like six months and one year and three years and so, so, so france is notorious for that. but i think given how extraordinary this case and the fact that it is attracting, um, global attention, um, yeah, we we've we're seeing penalties that are usually a little bit harsher than, than they usually are. >> um, obviously in no circumstances is rape ever acceptable. but what they've effectively done, haven't they, is say, you know, you can get sentenced 20 years for one rape. this was multiple hundreds of rapes. so those two cases wouldn't be comparable. and yet they are because of the nature of the french law. do you think they'll be a lot of pressure for them to change it

um, you know, that's where the cultural difference comes into play. >> i mean, i'm australian, i live in france and have done for a long time. i know americans have a similar, similar expectation as australians. um, i think this is considered quite normal in the french culture. so there isn't calls for harsher penalties, but there are calls for legal changes and justice system reform. reform. we have a really problematic justice system when it comes to trying cases of this nature. um, women in france simply don't trust the french justice system. only 10% of victims of rape even report the rape to the justice system. um, only 1 to 1 of those reports. only 1 to 4%, uh, end up with a conviction. so when victims say they don't trust the justice system, i completely am with them on that. um, and so also when even when we do have good judges and great evidence, um, you know, some of our laws are really outdated. so, for instance, when it comes to domestic abuse, we don't even have very

specific domestic abuse laws. we've just got the same laws that we use to prosecute violence in the general public that we use to then prosecute complex domestic abuse cases. so i think there will be a lot of call for legal reform. i think there'll be a lot of call for justice system reform and also more resourcing of the justice system, because a lot of victims wait for five years longer waiting for a court date, and they can't rebuild until they've had been heard by a judge and had had justice handed down. so yeah, there will be calls in that regard. >> isn't this one of the great contributions that giselle has given to france and the world, because she waved her anonymity, which allowed us to report on the case and the detail in a way that must have been absolutely horrific for her. but, you know, also shed a light on the justice system that you're describing. >> exactly. um, you know, we have to remind ourselves that she wasn't, um, it was a

choice to make it public. and she's done that in service of other women. um, you know, it's absolutely horrific what she's been going through. she's so brave. um, but before i heard that when the when the verdicts were handed down, she looked at each perpetrator in the eye. and i just think this woman is an strong, um, but shining a light on these, um, these french justice system problems and just societal attitudes as well. i think quite often internationally, france can have a really, um, sort of reputation of being really progressive when it comes to, to women's rights. and that is the case we've just had, um, you know, the right to an abortion put into the constitution, which is a great move forward. however, when it comes to sexist and sexual violence, we really do lag behind our other european neighbors. >> one of the other really shocking, um, moments of the trial was the defense of some of the other men that were recruited by dominique and their defense. so some have obviously pleaded guilty. those

who pleaded not guilty have said in their defense that they thought it was a consensual sex game, despite the fact that she was clearly, completely unconscious. and, you know, do you think those men really believe that? and if they did, i mean, i mean, there's a massive problem, isn't there within that, within that community. >> yeah. um, do i believe them? if they're sincere? look, to be honest, i just simply don't know. um, i some of the comments really stood out to me from some of the perpetrators. um, one one man said i didn't think it was rape, given i didn't force her. one man said, um, i'm the real victim in this situation because i didn't know i was being filmed. so this man who made that comment, he obviously understands the nature of consent because he said, well, i wasn't consent. i didn't give my consent to be filmed.

but he didn't get consent from giselle. um, so he obviously understands the notion. um, and but i do think more widely, the notion of consent is something that hasn't really, um, in french society, it's only just starting to get a bit of visibility. um, france was the country that blocked at a european level. um, the idea of consent making being across across the board, um, in european laws that that would be the notion of, of, of rape. um, and, and so i think in french society, yeah, there needs to be a lot of education starting in schools about what consent is. and um, and then obviously there is a debate open at the moment around putting consent into the, into the french penal code. >> sarah mcgrath, thank you so much for bringing us your thoughts on that breaking story. and as you were speaking, we saw that, you know, some of the defendants, they're completely covered up, protecting their own anonymity, which, again, just speaks to

the bravery, doesn't it, of the real hero here, which was giselle. thank you. uh, right now, russian president vladimir putin holding his annual press conference in moscow. the event includes a public phone in session where both journalists and ordinary russians can ask questions directly to the president. a few moments ago, putin talked about the russian economy, interest rates, inflation because the economy is under pressure there. he was also asked about the special military operation in ukraine, as they call it, and if russia was any closer to victory. what are you making of it, clare? you've got a few hours to go. yeah. >> i mean, traditionally it's about four hours or so that he he talks and it took a little bit of time, 20 minutes or so, to even get to the subject of what russia still calls its special military operation, the war in ukraine. but putin has been talking up russia's success. obviously, this has been a year where it's not a stalemate anymore. russia has the initiative on the frontline. it has been inching forward, especially in the east. and putin said the situation is changing dramatically, he said. we're not talking about advancing by a couple of hundred meters, he

said. we're taking back territory by square kilometers every day. so really trying to talk up that success. there was just an interesting question from the kursk region, which is, of course, where ukraine launched that incursion in august. people wanting to know when their housing will be restored, when the situation will be brought under control there, putin trying to reassure them that, of course it will be the ukrainians will be pushed out. we know there's an offensive happening right now with the help of north korean troops to do that. and another interesting question about how one person asking how soldiers, why soldiers fighting in kursk are paid so much less than those who are considered participants in the special military operation. putin saying that he didn't know that and that that will all be fixed. so i think clearly it's interesting to see putin. he looks very confident. he's been speaking very sort of colloquially cracking jokes, talking up the economy and and russia's successes. but this is a country that has been invaded for the first time since the second world war, since that incursion into kursk. and it's interesting

that so soon after the beginning of this event, is he getting questions about that. but obviously we're going to watch as this unfolds. for any more details on russia's strategy in this war. obviously, the the push towards peace talks that we're hearing potentially from the incoming trump administration and his view and how that could be evolving on the us president elect himself. >> he's not going to be so relaxed when gets questions about the assassination of a russian general just a few miles from the kremlin. >> well, i think that's the other reason why. you know, it is interesting to see him looking so confident. right? this has been a year where russia has seen internal security breaches, not just the incursion into kursk. we saw the crocus city hall terror attacks, the worst in years in russia back in march. and then there have been a number of assassination attempts. the most recent obviously being that general in moscow. he hasn't spoken about that yet. it's possible he could get a question. this whole event is sort of carried out as a very choreographed show of of openness. so the questions are vetted, but that doesn't mean it won't happen. so it'll be interesting to hear what he has to say about that.

traditionally, you know, he waits to talk about these things. >> journalists take part in it, say it is remarkably transparent, actually. >> i mean, it is. the questions are usually vetted and obviously come from different regions of russia. they're talking up this year how they're using ai to sort of collate the questions and the topics. but yes, it is an interesting way that the kremlin tries to show that one, he's sort of in command of all of these disparate issues, and two, that he's willing to get out there and talk about them, though it is, of course, a highly choreographed. >> okay, clare, thank you so much. we'll be back in a moment ring in the new year around the world with correspondents in every city at midnight. >> hi, i'm eileen gu. >> hi, i'm tia marie kondo. >> i'm naomi watanabe. >> this year marks 30 years of vivienne tam, the label. what is thrilling you the most? >> the fact that i have a platform to trash my mother in law. >> happy new year. >> happy new year to you.

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