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over side effects. they say they've experienced. we're following these major developing stories and many more, all coming in right here to cnn news central. so lawmakers could vote as soon as tonight as they race to keep the government from shutting down. but the big question is, will their solution come quick enough to protect federal workers from furloughs and to prevent essential employees from losing their paychecks? it all depends on whether house speaker mike johnson can get enough of his colleagues on board with the brand new plan that breaks up their previous plans into at least three separate parts. >> at least three separate parts. what could go wrong? but that strategy could be the key to getting a deal across the finish line before this midnight deadline. and there is less than ten hours now until the clock strikes 12. we have a live look at capitol hill now where high stakes negotiations

have been going on all day. that's also where we find cnn congressional correspondent lauren fox. she has been a busy, busy woman today. lauren, help us get up to speed with where things are right now. >> on this. >> so right now, brianna, we are outside of the house republican conference meeting. and inside the room behind us. what we have been hearing is that no decisions have been finalized. the speaker and his leadership team have been walking members through sort of a menu of options. but right now, it doesn't appear to be. there's any clear consensus on how to get house republicans from this moment to making sure the government is funded in just a matter of less than 12 hours now. so right now, it's unclear what the republican plan is. they had been potentially eyeing this idea of breaking down legislation into three different parts, having three separate votes on farm aid, on disaster aid, as well as just a short term spending bill to get them to march 14th. but it appears that they are

still not fully announcing that that is their way forward. and obviously that leaves a lot of room for doubt. right now, i was talking to some republicans who are coming out of here. one appropriator steve womack said he had no comment to me. that can show that people are really at a crossroads right now. people are really frustrated, especially appropriators who had worked really hard on that original deal that was unveiled on tuesday night. so what comes next? first, republicans have to make clear what their plan is. once they make clear what that plan is, they have to set a vote on the floor of the house. democrats have to decide if they're going to go along with this 11th hour plan. then, even if you can get this out of the house of representatives, it still has not gone through the united states senate, which any one senator could slow down. that process across the capitol. so a lot of moving parts right now, and it's just not clear what happens next. >> still not clear what happens next. lauren fox we know that it will become clearer. and

when it does that you will be the first person to know. so thank you so much for that live hit from as i like to say, she's in the bowels of the capitol, which kind of seems apropos, to be honest, at this point in time. cnn's kristen holmes here with us now, we also have jeff zeleny kristen, a quick reminder of how we got here this week. it was elon musk who went on a social media rant appearing to channel the sentiment of trump. but he criticized speaker johnson's original plan to avoid a shutdown that set off this wave of blowback led to the deal's eventual demise. and now some are saying that he may actually be calling the shots. >> elon musk yeah, and that's obviously not something that donald trump wants to be hearing right now. and that's why you heard him when he did a series of quick phone interviews. at least in one of them, he was reiterating over and over again that elon was essentially acting at the behest of him, that they had had a number of conversations and he knew exactly what elon musk was going to do when he took to x to start criticizing the bill. and just a reminder,

he didn't just criticize the proposal. he also was saying that anyone who voted for it should be primaried. i mean, taking it a notch up there, if you will. but this is not something donald trump wants to hear from democrats or republicans or skeptics that elon musk is the one calling the shots. and that's why you're hearing a lot of senior advisers calling me, telling me over and over again, no, no, no. elon musk was acting out what donald trump was telling him to do. this wasn't elon musk's decision, but of course, it's still going to raise a lot of questions because we see the enormous power that elon musk holds over, really, the media landscape over these politicians in general, particularly given the fact that he donated roughly around $300 million to the campaign this cycle. they know that he has the funds to do so to primary them. so it does raise a lot of questions. >> it also raises questions, jeff, about house speaker mike johnson, not only his autonomy as speaker, but also his ability to guide his own conference and his future as

well. >> it absolutely does. and look, this is something that talking to a lot of republicans who generally like him and want him to succeed, they believe he has not handled this well at all. he did not get this done earlier in the week. he sort of let it go. and because a variety of competing interests, which always happens at the end of the year, but his this is the most complicated thing he's dealt with or he's dealt with obviously. and people think he and his staff haven't done it very well. but now i'm told i was just speaking to a senior republican who whose boss voted for this last night, sort of walked the plank, if you will. and now they're complaining because they're being shut out, because the people who voted no are being brought into the discussions of how to get this going forward. so now there's anger on both sides. and even more than that, the clock is ticking. so that is an issue here. and trump has been silent so far today, with the exception of this morning. i mean he's been silent for several hours. so we'll see if he offers any more bat signals, if you will. but a lot of anger

ending the year on capitol hill. >> it was also fascinating. i was interviewing republican congressman dan muser, and he kept referring to the white house, and he wasn't actually talking about the white house. he was talking about the transition, the trump transition. but there is this feeling, certainly, that that's how they see it, that trump is already in charge. that's how republicans see it. and sort of aiding that, jeff, is, is that you're not really seeing joe biden really out there now. he is a lame duck. we have to be clear, he's a lame duck president. but how is he doing in all of this compared to what you might normally see a lame duck president do in something like this? >> i mean, he has been absent. there's no question about it. he had a conversation this morning with the house and senate democratic leaders hakeem jeffries and and chuck schumer. and my guess is if there is a shutdown, the president would have to come out and say something. but right now, he can really not control much of anything on the hill, maybe the senate a little bit like what they do. but this is a rare example of the senate

is probably being jammed. usually it's the lower chamber that gets jammed at the end of a big deal like this. the senate will probably be jammed on this. but look, he, uh, you know, is has made the choice to step back. and part of it, i think, was really i go back to the day that he had donald trump back to the white house. really, since that day, president biden has not been, um, sort of out there as much. he's been kind of reassessing day by day and certainly through all of this. >> and it seems like that's the way that trump would prefer it, given that there's this looming shutdown. trump is basically saying he wants to pin it on biden and democrats. he also wants the debt ceiling raised under biden's watch and not his own, even though when he was president, he suspended the debt ceiling three separate times. >> yeah. i mean, look, whether or not this ploy works, i don't think there's very many people out there who believe that this is going to be the democrats fault. i mean, donald trump would like to continue to pin it on them and say, this is all under biden's administration. it's all biden's fault. but the entire reason the thing fell apart was because of elon musk and then

donald trump putting it out there. so it's very hard to square those two things, given that donald trump is the actual reason that this tanked, not joe biden. and as jeff is saying, we've seen him less and less joe biden visible every day and donald trump more and more visible every day. so how you actually get to a point where people are blaming joe biden for this? i mean, that seriously seems questionable at this point. but obviously, donald trump and republicans are going to continue to do that as much as they possibly can. all right. >> let's, um, let's head back up to the hill. if you guys can stand by for a second and we'll go up to lauren fox, who is there in the basement of the capitol, which is where a lot of the action is. lauren, what's happening? >> right. i've been following you on twitter. >> yeah, i just talked to one republican member, brett guthrie. he was coming out of this conference meeting, and he basically walked through what some of the options are. so i'm i want to walk you through them as well. one of the options, he said, is what we have been reporting, which is that you break this negotiation, this deal that they have into three different

parts. so you have one vote on disaster aid, one vote on farm aid, one vote on the spending bill to march 14th. and if they went that route, he said that they would want to go through the house rules committee. that would take some time and kick them into voting late this evening, possibly in the early hours of the morning, he said. the other option that leadership is looking at right now is having one vote, not going through the rules committee and putting all of those pieces together and then doing it under the suspension of the rules. now, the trick with that is you need two thirds majority, not just a simple majority. and that gets complicated because they would need a number, a number of democratic votes in that meeting. johnson, according to brett guthrie, said that he's having ongoing conversations with jeffries, the democratic leader, about the path ahead. but again, this is all still very fluid. but guthrie just walking us through what some of the options on the table are right now and what they're talking about in that room. again, he emphasized, no decisions have been made at this point all right.

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city that the people of new york love. i wanted to be there to show the symbolism of that. >> we're joined now by elliot williams, cnn legal analyst and a former federal prosecutor. elliot, sorry for that. stumble. in your introduction. >> like you don't call you don't write. >> well, i'm glad we're glad to have you back. good, good, good. just wondering, first off, what you made of that perp walk. clearly made for the world to see. >> made for the world to see and not good for the case any time law enforcement is seen as belittling or making a public spectacle out of a defendant there, possibly tainting the jury pool in new york, that's going to have to hold this person in judgment. ultimately, a trial is you know, a jury may the makeup of the jury is the community. and ideally, people have not come to conclusions about the case. if people are inundated with images of this individual being trotted out in

front of police, with the mayor wagging his finger in his face, it's just not good for the process or the system. they could have actually done that completely in private and driven him into the back door of the courthouse. >> and i want to focus more on the mangione case in just a moment. but we should also note that adams himself has some legal problems. he has right now, and i just wonder how you are seeing that and what transpired yesterday as it pertains to legal problems of the people around him with that perp walk. >> what's what's most problematic about eric adams statement there is he wagged his finger and said, you committed this crime. putting aside any presumption of innocence on the part of that individual when he is, he is himself facing charges. it's an odd disconnect to, you know, to be denying your own charges, but then but then pointing at somebody else and saying that necessarily before the presumption, before the presumption of innocence from a person who, you know, if this is a question of federal charges, why is the the mayor even weighing in in the first place? like, i understand that there is still new york city charges, but everything is

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proceeding forward. we will not have a government shutdown, and we will meet our obligations for our farmers who need aid for the disaster victims all over the country and for making sure that military and essential services and everyone who relies upon the federal government for a paycheck is paid over the holidays. i'll give you the more details here in just a few moments. how do you talk to president elect trump about this? >> have you talked to the president elect, mr. speaker, has that. >> a very brief? set of remarks from speaker mike johnson? i believe that he sort of outlined his thinking when it comes to this new strategy, this plan c of breaking up what initially was a large government funding bill that included all sorts of things into smaller pieces. and he spoke about their the importance of keeping the government open not only to help government workers keep their paychecks and maintain steady pay throughout the holiday season, but also helping folks that were impacted by natural disasters. >> we've talked about shutdowns before, but what we

would be looking at if we proceeded to one this time is bigger than what we've seen before. we're talking about the military not getting paid air traffic control working, but not getting paid, tsa working, but not getting paid. this is huge. what we'd be looking at if they shut down. but there he is, trying to assure people they're not going to have a shutdown. but man, are they leaving this until the last minute. the clock is ticking. we've got 9.5 hours here until midnight. >> yeah. and it speaks to sort of some of the uncertainty created by president trump and elon musk weighing in on, uh, on this deal that apparently johnson believed was a done deal as of a few days ago. i know we have manu raju who is working to get some answers from lawmakers. let's go to manu raju now live on capitol hill. we couldn't catch all of johnson's remarks, but it sounded like he was sort of presenting the idea that he wanted to break this larger bill up into smaller pieces.

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different bills, the stopgap measure to keep the government funded until mid-march. and also the about $100 billion or so of disaster relief and $10 billion in aid to farmers, all in one bill to come up tonight. is that what's going to happen? >> well, the 10 billion to farmers, 83% of that is food stamps. >> and the largest portion of that is using food stamps to pay for soft drinks. so there's a lot of misnomers. >> but that being said, the three bills will be tied together as one. >> grasp. okay. >> and that's going to come up tonight. >> well, possibly. possibly. >> do you think that it will pass the house? >> i think it will. i think i think hakim's for it probably so. i think we're probably. >> how does it i mean, you've been disappointed by this process. i mean, what do you think about this? >> it's just the sewer. it's just what it is. it's never any different. just this time, it's. people are a lot more aware of what's going on, and they're. and we're getting more public input. >> i mean, you guys were in there for two hours. take us inside the room. what was it like in there and how much

debate? how much division was there? >> well, first of all, i was a little disappointed in the sandwich tray. it was a little lackluster at best, but no, you know, it was it was good debate and everyone was allowed to speak. and everybody came to the mic and people would something would trigger something else, and they'd go back up to the mic and they were given their one minute. so, you know, it's the way it's supposed to work. it's just there's a lot to comprehend in the next little bit. >> so we'll see. how many republicans do you think will oppose this plan? >> i have no earthly idea. no earthly idea. joel wuthnow. >> do what? you'll vote no. >> possibly. possibly. thank you. >> so, as you heard there, just to sum up where things stand. so the government shuts down at midnight tonight. they need to figure out how to pass a bill to keep the government open. that passes the republican led house. the democratic led senate gets signed into law by the president. the decision, it sounds like, based on what congressman burchett said and other members, is to advance a three month stopgap measure to keep the government open up until mid-march. tied along with that aid to farmers,

roughly about $10 billion or so of aid to farmers. a lot of republicans have been pushing for that, but also about $100 billion or so in disaster relief that helps people who have been hit communities by natural disasters, like hurricanes that have been all discussed. as part of this plan, there have been some discussions going into today's meeting that they would separate these out, vote on these individually. but coming out of this meeting, looks like they're going to wrap this all together as one package and try to pass it tonight. try to pass it tonight under a process that requires two thirds of the house to approve it. that's 290 votes or 219 republicans. that means that they're going to lose some republicans. perhaps tim burchett is one of them, and some others as well who do not like this. they will need significant numbers of democrats to back this. so that puts the ball in. hakeem jeffries lap. the democratic leader. what does he decide that's going to be key? also, the democrats in the senate, what do they decide? and the white house will they get behind this approach also, very notably, donald trump is the one who blew up this process, of course, middle of the week when he said this bipartisan deal that had been reached.

likewise, you too, congressman, i should include a debt ceiling increase. so that is something that has been so difficult for congress to deal with for years. but trump wanted this off the table when he becomes president, the decision inside this room is to not deal with the debt limit increase. now, to punt that issue until next year, trump is going to have to deal with it when he is president. so here's another big question because they're doing something that trump is the opposite of the position that trump took publicly. will trump get on board with this new approach? we are hearing that johnson is communicating with the president elect's team. will the president elect get behind this? all big questions. but at the moment, republicans believe they have a plan. a number of republicans coming out believe they can actually vote to approve this tonight. what will democrats do? and can they avert a shutdown and 11th hour? we'll see here in the hours ahead, guys. >> manu, i just want to pick up on something you said and something that you asked congressman burchett. he said that he believes that hakeem

jeffries, the minority leader, is behind this plan. is it your sense that if they need two thirds of the house to vote for this, that there are going to be enough democrats that actually signed on to this because republicans, they're in like the 219, 220 vote range, they'll need a substantial number yeah. >> it's unclear. you know, i was talking to a number of democrats, top democrats, while this is all going out. they were really holding their cards close to their vest because they were not partisan negotiation. and they were part of the other negotiation. the bipartisan bill deal that trump killed earlier this week, but not this one. so they're pretty irked about that. they also wanted to see what would happen behind closed doors at this meeting. will republicans actually come out behind one plan? would they be at loggerheads? would they have to come up with a new strategy? so they were not saying. but now that we have heard from the speaker, now that we've heard from other members about what the strategy is, which is, again, to repeat, to keep the government open until mid-march, include disaster relief, aid to farmers, not

deal with the national debt limit. now, tie it all together as one bill. try to get it out tonight to avoid a government shutdown. now that they know that that appears to be the plan going forward. what does hakeem jeffries do? that's going to be the next big question here. but a lot of democrats believe they'll be hard pressed to vote against such a plan with staring at a government shutdown. and one of the big concerns they didn't want to give donald trump a debt limit increase now, because that's leverage for them to fight against the trump agenda in the next congress. they won that fight. so what else will they fight on now? they don't like some of the things that were stripped out, like cancer research and other issues, but it will be probably difficult for them to stand in the way of this, as johnson seems confident a shutdown will be avoided. >> guys, one thing we can count on there will be another fight around the corner. manu raju, thank you so much for your great reporting there in the basement of the capitol. and we are also right now following some breaking news out of germany, where there are reports that a car has driven into a group of people at a

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are reports that a car has driven into a group of people at a christmas market. german media now reporting that at least one person was killed in this. >> cnn law enforcement contributor steve moore joins us now. i believe, steve, that this is not the first time an attack like this has taken place. what do investigators look for when they try to figure out exactly what happened? >> well, first of all, they're going to be trying to find out whether the driver was the owner or the the regular driver of this vehicle. that's going to be very important. they're also going to look for any indications that it might be religious based, because it is a christmas attack. and they're also going to look for timing the last, um, uh, they're called vehicle as weapons attacks. the last time one of these occurred in germany was in 2016 at a christmas market

in berlin, uh, about 100 miles away. and what's interesting is that happened exactly on december 20th. so that would make this the anniversary of that of that and terrorist groups. frequently like to put special meanings to certain dates. um, just to be clear, i'm not saying that this is a terrorist act, but there are certain things that would uh, make it suspicious enough to where you really have to consider that as a possibility. >> yeah. the these have been targets before. there was also a christmas market. attack that was foiled by police. actually, earlier this month as well. um, let's bring in retired fbi special agent dan bruner to join the conversation on this. dan, we're looking at these pictures, and i'm not sure if you can see these out of magdeburg, but it's highly

alarming. you can see the aftermath of a lot of people on the ground, people tending to them, folks who seem unresponsive. this is a terrible scene. >> it's absolutely horrible. and as steve was saying, the, you know, people that conduct in the terrorist organizations in the terrorist realm really look for anniversaries and really want to repeat those attacks and a lot of things that they're going to be looking at now, and you're going to see an increased security here in the united states, copycats. so i think, you know, bryant park in new york city, a lot of these market places where there are open air christmas, there's going to be an increased level of security. you'll see nypd in los angeles, chicago, all across this country. they're going to increase security due to the possible response of copycats, and they're going to want to avoid that here. they want to prevent these type of attacks here. it's incredibly easy to do a vehicle borne attack. and it's quite simple. and, you know, obviously it causes a lot of damage. i've

seen a lot of the footage already coming out of germany. it's an amazing amount of damage that that has been that has been conducted. it's absolutely horrible. and hopefully the individual who is supposedly under arrest and now is in custody, we'll find out more. >> i do just want to point out for our viewers the attack that took place at a christmas market in 2016 was actually on december 19th, not the 20th, not an exact anniversary of that incident. nevertheless, it does appear to mimic some of the same attributes, though it is too early for investigators to say conclusively what the intent of this driver may have been. i do want to bring in cnn's fred pleitgen, who is in berlin for us. he joins us now over the phone. fred, walk us through what you're learning about this attack hi, boris. >> yeah, well, this apparently happened a couple of hours ago in magdeburg, which is pretty much in central germany. it's the capital city of of that state there. and we're seeing from that cctv video, just that car plowing through that, that group of people. christmas

markets, of course, very common right now in germany, especially packed on a friday night as they would be the latest that we're getting from local media and also from the local authorities, is that apparently at least one person has been killed and several other people have been injured. we are hearing that a lot of people seem to be quite severely injured. so obviously the authorities there fear that the toll could actually get higher as time progresses. um, the driver has been arrested is what we're hearing. and what we're now hearing is that increasingly, the authorities seem to be speaking of an attack rather than possibly some sort of accident that might have happened. but again, it is still the very early stages. as you can imagine, a lot of the crews there, um, the ems crews still on the scene there, trying to save people, trying to help people who were injured in all of this. um, but, you know, you guys have been discussing it and it's absolutely correct to say that christmas market security has been one of the biggest issues here in germany over the past month. usually in the month before christmas, um, is when these christmas markets open. they are a gigantic industry

here in germany. and since that incident in 2016, christmas market security has been a huge issue here for this country. there's a lot of christmas markets that i've seen over the past couple of weeks where security has been increased, a lot of them quite, quite, quite high tech security measures that they've taken to prevent precisely something like this from happening to prevent a car or a truck from plowing into the christmas markets, because the germans had had such bad memories of what happened in 2016. so certainly this is going to be causing a huge stir. as you can imagine in german politics, a lot of people are going to have a lot of questions to to answer. but right now the main thing, obviously for the police that are on the ground there is to interrogate the driver, found out what the motivations are. but increasingly right now, politicians here and the authorities here. speaking of an attack, boris, because normally, fred, when they are protecting these markets as you know, obviously highly desirable soft targets to folks who want to do damage and potentially terrorize.

>> they're trying to stop, uh, cars or vehicles from going in. right? i mean, normally, do you see that kind of protection? >> yeah. look, i mean, it's something that you've increasingly seen and you're absolutely right. i think i think when you say that they're trying to protect these people, i can tell you when you're at one of those christmas markets and you think about security, you do feel quite vulnerable because the stalls that are on those christmas markets are obviously made of very thin wood. they're not nearly enough to stop a car when it's going through their the aisles where people are sort of shopping at these stalls are very, very narrow. and so it's almost impossible for people to actually get out of the way. and at the same time, those little wooden huts offer no or virtually no protection at all. so these are you are or you feel like you are a soft target when you're on these christmas markets. and that's why they increase the security. and that means additional barriers around these christmas markets, often with trees and other things planted in them, but also at the entry point to have barriers that come up and go down that can be lowered for if

you have deliveries, for instance, that is also something that you've seen increasingly at christmas markets and that you've seen here specifically in germany after those incidents, after that incident that took place in 2015 or 2016, because the authorities here know that there is going to be a large group of people there, there's very little to stop an automobile or something else for people to take cover. if a car were to plow through there and at the same time, it is jam packed with people that have no way or almost no way to get out of the way, and are therefore very much soft targets. so this is something where we've seen the concepts for these security measures develop over time, and that's why it's it's going to be interesting to see how exactly something like this could have happened. >> fred pleitgen, thank you so much for the update. we have to take a quick break. we'll be right back on cnn following this breaking news out of germany. today. my friend. >> you did it. >> you did it. pursue a better you with centrum it's a small win toward taking charge of your health.

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reports that a car has driven into a large group of people at a christmas market. >> these are very popular in germany this time of year. and german media says that at least one person is dead and the driver has been arrested. >> cnn's fred pleitgen joins us now over the phone. he is live for us from berlin. fred, you are familiar with these kinds of attacks, having covered them before, specifically 1 in 2016 that killed a dozen people and injured almost 50. can you give us an idea of what that situation was like, in contrast with this one? >> well, in fact, it was it was actually fairly similar, where in the evening hours we got news that apparently a car truck had plowed into a christmas market and turned out back then that it wasn't a car, but it was actually a very large truck. now, in that case, it was actually an islamist terror attack where someone with that motivation had killed the driver of a truck and then driven that truck into one of the main christmas markets in

in berlin, as you say, killing a dozen people there. and, um, that person wasn't arrested immediately. he was actually on the loose and was then later arrested in italy. right now, of course, we know that the driver has been arrested. but certainly if you look at the video from back then of the aftermath and some of the video that we're seeing right now, that is all very similar, because one of the things that was ascertained back then by the german authorities is that with the christmas markets as packed as they are with those stalls as close to one another as they are, the people, there are essentially soft targets. and that set off a wave of christmas market security being being upped here in germany being increased, and one of the biggest political issues or a huge political issue here in this country in the run up to the christmas season, was the safety of people at those christmas markets, new types of barriers, any way to try and improve the safety, to make sure exactly what happened tonight does not happen, as it did in 2016. so certainly there's going to be a lot of people who are going to have to a lot of questions to answer,

because this was a big political issue here in this country. and again, right now the authorities are saying that at least one person has been killed. it seems as though dozens of people have been injured. and we know that the governor of that state is now on the scene as well for us. >> all right. and we are awaiting more information as authorities are going to update us. huge concerns here about what kinds of injuries and if the casualty number here is going to grow in magdeburg, germany. very alarming. at least one person dead, several hurt after a car, a car plowed into a crowd at a christmas market in germany on a very busy friday evening. we'll get in a quick break. we'll be right back with more on our breaking news berwick. >> every year, millions of noses are ghosted by their plugins. new airwick advanced, our groundbreaking plugin that pulses scent for staying power up to 60 days, plus a fragrance boost button. our noses won't be ignored again i'm jonathan

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