>> twice. >> one and a half. >> i don't get drunk. >> david estes estoy borracho. >> no, no. it's normal solo. >> that is so spanish, by the way. to be like everybody. to have a very distinct opinion and be completely different. it's like this is a fact. >> as someone would come and say, well, whatever. >> i don't know. >> i don't know. it was a very it was a miracle. >> when my time comes, i pretty much want to die at a table like this. no, no, i know good work. zamboni. good work. >> so, zach, you're happy with the show? >> hope i don't suck on television. >> dude, i think i'm setting a pretty low bar i'm going to tell you, this relaxed lifestyle, you know, lounging around, eating and drinking. >> and no nap is long enough for me.

>> yeah, life is good. >> i envy you, zach. zamboni. and we're out. nice and. >> a. >> 25 years later, after the wall fell, berlin remains complicated and unfinished. complicated by history and counter-history, with an urban fabric that resists all attempts to reorder it. berlin fascinates, and people continue to be drawn to its darkness

and its light. >> i took a walk through this beautiful world, felt the cool rain on my shoulder found something good in this beautiful world. i felt the. rain getting colder. sha la la la la. sha la la la la la. sha la la la la. sha la la la la la la. >> berlin is never berlin. they say. pounded into rubble by allied bombs and russian artillery at world war two. surrounded, then hacked into

during the cold war, then reunited and reborn. berlin is a city of ghosts, an ever evolving space where memories and new ideas live side by side. in between and after the wars, berlin has always been a place where you find what you want or what you think you need, what you can't get back home. a place where fantasies could come true. it's all here if you know where to look. it's no coincidence. it's a natural progression, really, that berlin's nightlife is excessive. completely and proudly uninhibited and never ending. there are clubs for

everybody, and many are friendly towards whatever your personal lifestyle choices might be. club culture is the pride of berliners and draws millions of thrill seekers from all over the world. it is notoriously difficult to navigate, however, and finding the right place with the right mix that will actually let you in the door can be a challenge. who decides who gets in, keeps each place with its own personal, non-judgmental balance. are people like frank kunstler, who for 25 years he's been the gatekeeper and bouncer at some of berlin's most infamous club doorways. you were described as a legendary doorman. >> yeah, maybe. >> um, owner uh, at the last

years, i owned a bar. right. um, a professional partier in berlin. what time do they show up at the club? >> 6:00 in the morning. >> no way. oh, yes. of course. so wait a minute. you arrived at 6 a.m. and then the clubs, they go from saturday evening to monday morning without any break. >> so people go there normally sunday morning and then they dance sunday, whole day and whole night and go home monday morning. >> yeah. so you're talking 24 hours or 36 hours? no, 36 hours. what are you doing for 36 hours? >> dancing, talking, chilling, hugging, whatever. >> i don't want to do any of those things for 36 hours, personally. i mean, thank you. >> ich würde ein aber egal lasst das verstehen. and i have to begin. sorry. and beautiful. >> as a large man with

a physically challenging job, frank likes meat, as i do so. a long established butcher shop like fleisher radomsk is just what the both of us need. yeah. pork schnitzel with murky, delicious brown gravy and boulette, which i gather is german for meatballs, is the kind of working class food one wants and needs. so what attracted you to this business? >> the night had always like, uh, i always was. attracted to the night. i think people in the night when they are on alcohol or on drugs, open their mind. it's also because it's dark. they are more free in their mind. and i found that interesting. >> berlin is world famous for its club scene. why here?

>> i think because we are the last liberal city like real liberal. you know, the people can afford being here. it's cheap to drink, it's cheap to live, it's cheap to eat. and people come here because of the freedom to party, to get wasted as hard as possible. >> how about the police and the government at this time? you know, you've got thousands of people taking ecstasy and dancing all night till 11:00. 12:00. >> i think the government knows. i know policemen and they know about like people doing drugs and they come to our clubs, do drugs by themselves or not only drink, but they accept. and everybody is cool with it. berlin is a party city. it's no real industry. besides a party industry. and so, so many tourists coming only because of that. from spain, from italy, from russia, from u.s., from uk. to get totally lost and totally wasted, but not in a bad way. just like in a buddhistic way. it's like in

the moment you get lost, you can't find yourself. and that's, i think, what excess is about. pure hedonism. >> come to berlin, get high party. >> plus. the wall, an absurd, tragic, almost metaphoric, but all too real expression of humanity's failure and depravity. >> a 96 mile stretch of concrete and razor wire cut berlin into an island of capitalistic west and gray, soul crushing, repressive communist east. they keep a few chunks of it around, a reminder of terror, of triumph, or simply to take

selfies in front of. every day. fewer and fewer. remember that the world almost ended. right here. even as the wall fell. techno music seemed to express something that needed to be expressed. dance music and ecstasy and mammoth nightclubs exploded across a reunited berlin. during that time, djs like ellen allien were pioneers of a new sound and a new generation. east and west, a unifying force. >> such as my favorite food. as a german, you need sausage. mhm. >> yeah, this is good. >> very good for the apple and

sorbet. i think. >> lunch at michelberger, a joint on friedrichshain. with sausage of chicken, pig's feet and sage with smoked mashed potatoes and apple beef shoulder braised and served with root vegetables, potatoes, horseradish and god help me, kale. when did the wall come down? that was, uh, what, year 89, 89. so everything started at 89. >> everything started at 89. first the club scene was based in the west side, where the first techno club opened. wall came down and then everything moved to the east because there was space, a lot of industrial places and music was a meeting point of the east and west and a meeting point of young people trying to move together. and this happened in the club when the wall came down. this was our music to come together. so it's very deeply in our blood.

right? that's why it's so strong for me. so being a dj, because this time was a very strong impact for my soul. >> over time. so many artists, musicians, writers from elsewhere have come to berlin. it's always been sort of a magnet for artists for a lot of reasons. why do you think here, of all places, would be so welcoming and attractive to creative people? >> i think after the second war everything was burned here. there was nothing. nothing was here only like broken stones. you know, everything was gone. all the history. so people start building up the

new berlin or whatever. and we are still in that process, you know. and when you come here, you have you have the feeling that you have to help to build something here. i'm a part of it. if i go to paris, i'm not thinking i'm a part of paris. i'm not, because there is so much history you can see on rome, right? i think only about the rome history. yes, because there's everything you can touch. is an open air museum. yeah, but here you have the feeling you build something. and i think that's why so many people come here. when i'm here, i start being so creative. because it makes something to me. it's very quiet city. but also there is something bottling, you know something that you have the feeling you want to be a part of. and i think that's why many people come here. >> there's no past, there's only a future. in a sense. you can create your own world here. yeah, exactly. >> yeah.

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rubbed the lamb with olive oil and covered it in sea salt and black pepper. and when these are those, i sliced potatoes and parsnips and carrots and a little bit of onions, and laid a bed inside a glass pyrex dish, and i stacked those in the oven and i got them very hot for a second. start this one off, and then i turned it all the way down to about 125, and i let it go. >> anton newcombe is a legend, a true believer, the man behind the ever changing entity known as the brian jonestown massacre, which was always basically him, seen by many as perhaps the greatest and most promising musical force since bob dylan, he avoided mainstream success with a notorious combination of self-sabotage and sheer determination to do his own

thing, his own way. completely independent of an industry he loathed. anton, who comes from southern california, has made berlin his home, his refuge. >> so we're going to do it at 146 146. yeah. so what's going to happen is there's going to be two. i'll go like that. we'll just see, okay. we're not going to change yet. let's keep eye contact about switching. >> yeah. he makes music paints and cooks in his studio. >> still tours to sold out shows, collaborates with other artists to brilliant results and continues to create and record incredible music. his own way. always zero compromise. he's not just one of the most prolific recording artists in history,

but an excellent and enthusiastic cook, frequently combining both callings at the same time. >> so this has to come out so it was cooking from almost 1:00 to six, maybe. um, i also made sweet potatoes and you have to stab those and then wrap them in foil and cover the bottom of the oven with foil, because they tend to leak a sugar. it's very hard to clean that stuff, but that's what they do. and. uh. i mashed potatoes. very simple. um. all the, let's say

it's good stuff. like, i think that's the the basic stuff that we cooked right there and put the lamb turned out good. so there you go. >> today, anton basically prepared a delicious feast for a large group of friends and wrote, composed and recorded some new songs. it is entirely likely that he released the record in the following days. for a guy with a reputation for being, let's say, difficult, by the way, he was with us always lovely. kind, indulgent, the host with the most, and he made a really good dinner, an incredible soup, a mind boggling array of side dishes, serious cooking chops. you've been adored. you've

been the hot band that everybody wanted. you've had all the things that a lot of people coming up, you know, yearn for. i wonder what thrills you. >> and i like music's a puzzle to me because i'm not. i'm self-taught, so i basically have to teach myself every idea that's going through my mind. and they're going really quick. so it's like a race to accomplish it. >> what's your turnaround time? because it's legendary, like between recording, you're smiling and releasing, will you ever be making a song a day? >> like in between cooking right here, i was able to record with her. it's no problem, and i constantly want to challenge myself, and right now i want my music to have a certain amount of energy because i'm 50 and i want to prove to people that it's irrelevant how old you are. so i just enjoy playing music. that's why i'm 50 years old and playing

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do you see any parallels between germany in the 20s and where we are today? yes, yes. >> like when you read isherwood or other people from other countries coming to germany, they say, oh, everything is so cheap and affordable and you can get anything, anything you want. >> i think here it's just, just go for it. >> and people still come here just to disappear into the nightlife and live their fantasies. and again, it was exactly like that in the 20s. it's the same but just different. >> brendan nash is a historian who gives walking tours highlighting the weimar era's more famous expats elza edelstahl is a promoter of 20s themed events throughout the city. le pustra has been called cabaret's darkest muse. he's the creator of cabaret der ghosn, a weimar

era theatrical event that reimagines cabaret culture of the 20s with dark, brooding sexual undertones. we meet at gross in west berlin. though promised 1920s style classic fare, i was in this regard, disappointed. the food was excellent, though. germany's cool with, you know, come to our country, get high and and party. >> it's not germany, it's berlin, it's berlin. and in berlin we say berlin is not germany, you know. yeah, i remember the first time i was in berlin when i was 14 years old, and i remember exactly coming here and having this almost physical feeling of freedom, like i was a goth girl at that time. like i started to only wear black and listen to dark music. and when i came to berlin, like, i was like, yes, here i can be who i want to be.

and it all. it almost felt a little bit magical. yes. >> do you think the people who came here from other countries back in weimar era and now people are looking for a dark side? do you think? >> certainly with the people are looking for things they couldn't do at home? >> exactly. they're looking for. >> they'll come here for the forbidden things that you know, you know. >> and you can tell the people who come and gone crazy, it's it's captured people's imaginations. >> so people come here in search of that divine decadence. yeah. and it is here. definitely is. >> during the weimar years and later, just before and after the wall came down, berlin became a refuge for artists, writers and musicians at a crossroads in their lives. most notably, in 1976, david bowie

came here, have a seat. well, there we go. >> there we go. >> jim ricky is a celebrated photographer known for his intimate portraits. he began his career as a photojournalist , and in 76 captured the first moments of david bowie's stepping off the train in west berlin. a city he would live and work in for the next three years. bowie was exhausted and burned out and looking for a new way to live and to work, and the music he created during that time was something truly groundbreaking and new. the result was both a professional and personal rebirth, and some of the most powerful and influential recordings of all time. classics which i'd love to play here but cannot afford he wasn't a big name at the time, but it was a historical point

because he came to berlin the week after he split with his band, and from l.a. >> he went to berlin. he had to regenerate from, well, l.a. had been really bad. >> i mean, apparently existing only on cartons of milk. yeah, and cocaine, i think. not much else. yeah. and essentially came to berlin, oddly enough, given its reputation to clean up. yeah. uh, clearly in really bad health, in a really bad place. and yet the music that he made here was very different than anything he'd done before. what do you think he found here? that was good for him? >> well, he lived a pretty low profile life in berlin. i have to say that. he could be anonymous here, like everybody admired him. but nobody talked to him. that's a big advantage. and a funny thing is, when you have that sort of visionary pregnancy that you say

something's going to come, something's going to fall from the sky. it does. >> now, back in the early 70s, when david bowie arrived, a lot of people don't realize that berlin was surrounded. i mean, it was essentially an island, uh, during much of that period. yes. yeah. outside of whatever bowie was doing, what was what was it like in west berlin at that time? >> it was like pressure cooking. you know, it was like pressure cooking. west berlin was surrounded by the wall, and there were just three roads leading to west berlin, and they were controlled by the russians, basically. >> so why would a walled city surrounded by hostile forces be such a hot house for art, music and free expression? >> west berlin was always very international. we had like

people were flying in from all walks of life, artists from all genres were here and we were surrounded by east. the wall was a solid resistance and you need a strong enemy to build a strong muscle. and people who were living here had to improvise a lot. >> i mean, it's what is seen by many as a, you know, a golden period. the weimar era was in fact a hotbed of music and culture and art. in between two really awful events, yes, followed by the wartime years, followed by long period, i mean, postwar berlin was in ruins when were the good times? >> i have a i have a very, um, complex answer to that. and that is the best times are now. we have all the freedoms we want. you know, i think the

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>> sunday afternoon in berlin at the mauerpark flea market is a place where expat artists and locals alike can find what they want and didn't know they needed. >> oh, there you are, wolfgang. can't lose you. adidas tracksuit. >> oh, man, that's a good look. joining the throngs is frugal shoppers. anton, wolfgang and i, we have some purchases in mind. >> so this is where i usually take a cigarette break because this will be a while. well, what would you do if you had a five year old brain? this is like his synapses is going. thank you. we spend one second with the records. >> oh hell yeah. >> the main thing that i'm looking for is always beatles in mono. anything in mono from the 60s, stuff from when they dj. okay, i'll get two records quick enough. right. cool. thank you. he asked me for the

for like the third time where i come from. and then he remembers that i'm in a band and that i live here for years, and i see him every week. he's an interesting guy, kind of. he tends to moan a lot. >> you know what you're ordering for dinner, i think. >> i think german food. thank you. >> i'm assuming that most days you're working in the studio. do you take days off? we just do nothing doing that. >> see, uh, but yeah, i like to

create every day, and then sometimes it's just too tired. that's why my studio, as you saw, is set up as a house. so just go there and lay on the couch, listen to records. because the type of music that i listen to keeps my mind set. exactly the same, endlessly. so my month becomes like a day and my my sleep becomes like a nap. i just pick it up where i left off so i can think on ideas on the back burner of my mind for for weeks, you know, it's like the what they would call like alpha wave generation. it's just like you keep yourself going in a zone, you know, it's where oh, no, that's him, that's me. >> yeah. thank you. >> so thank you sir. super. >> um, i love this. this is. this is what i come to germany for. >> that's the real deal. >> eisbein is pork knuckle. or more accurately, a big freaking shank unlike schweinshaxe,

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>> do you do you have do you think you have any responsibility as a musician other than to make the best art you can? >> well, i have self-set goals. i believe it's the duty of older people to hold the torch just so somebody gets it. and then even older people can look behind them and go, oh, somebody else got it. they're following down the road. so that means like an older rider could go, okay, all isn't lost. it didn't end in the 60s. here's this younger guy. who's 50. right. see. but it's my responsibility to hold that torch for other people that are younger than me down the road. and even for the the squares to leave just this tangled mess of your art and ideas and let people figure it out. don't spell it out right. you know. but i love it up here. i think it's okay because people stay out of my hair and you could be invisible. >> well, that must be nice. >> crazy, right? this is actually really good.

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michelin starred restaurant noble heart and schmitz in kreuzberg. the question of the day being what german wines pair best with a utilitarian treat like currywurst, fried pork sausage smothered in ketchup and a dusting of curry powder. now how did this become a beloved dish? i have no idea. >> it's a lot of flavor. it's spicy, it's fat, it's salt, it's roasted. then you have fries with it. it's. >> oh, i understand why people eat it. yeah, alcohol, junk food. >> yeah. yes. yeah. >> but at the end, it's a very cheap thing. you know, you get two sausages with fries with a beer when you pay ÷10. >> oh it's like a quick workers lunch. >> yes. yeah. >> so what wine would you suggest with this? >> we should try glass of champagne. >> there's a place in berlin where they serve currywurst with champagne. >> really? >> yeah, yeah, yeah, champagne

always works. >> obviously. >> i like this. it's a good match. u-box. cool place. you can come and see movies like this. the film premiered in berlin in 1927, presenting troubling issues of its time. and it turns out, ours. corporate greed, political corruption, social inequality. and in the figure of brigitte helm as maria, the dangerous yet powerful role of the individual activist in an oppressive culture. her eyes. she's a little cross-eyed. >> yeah, but that's sexy, you know? >> yeah. now here we go. classic german food. >> a huge yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a you eat one. >> you know, i'm not finishing this, man. oh my god, it's ginormous. kebab was introduced to berlin by turkish immigrants. and döner kebab is

the german iteration. >> you know, at the end, it's something which is in every culture, you have something, uh, grain outside bread, and then it's stuffed with something. you have meat in it. you have salad with it. you have spicy sauce with a lot of chili, and you're gonna find it in all kind of different versions. we should maybe try the red, see what it does. sure. >> this is also classic drunk food. i mean, yeah, it's greasy, it's messy. it's it's wet, it's crispy. it's got it all. >> and it's very easy to be done vegetarian. >> well, i need the meat. i mean, that big loaf that they put together, i mean, i don't know how they make it or extend it or whatever the hell it is. i don't really care what's in it. it's meat. i don't want grass fed. uh. colorado or australian lamb on my on my doner kebab. i want, i want to, i want this, you know,

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you knew this. you don't have to look too hard. but renowned photographer maren saunier has been looking with a fixed gaze on people in the margins for decades. for over 40 years, he's worked diligently to capture the world's darker shades. its most marginalized people, the outsiders, the transgressive, the forgotten, the desperate and depraved. always in a non-judgmental, unblinking way these are some of the shots we can put on tv. many we can't. i urge you to find them. shot with a lot of hustlers, dope addicts. prostitutes. how did you approach your subjects? right up, right in picture? or

do you establish relationships? >> we always depended on the situation. some were not aware of me, others were exhibitionists. i had fights, but most of the time i didn't have any problems because there were situations i knew. okay, now i better retreat or i get my kicked. i had a very good sense of how far you can go. up in recent years, miran has been making films as well, shooting in abandoned spaces, celebrating all that is taboo. >> all that is wrong, all it is right about berlin. he restores my soul with an unflinching gaze and a genuine affection for his subjects and characters. berlin has a reputation as a

place that you can come and be anything you want, behave pretty much as you want. nobody's going to hassle with you. is that true? do you think? and why? >> endemic art is still possible? this is really important. you can create here. independently, affording you a little space and do what the you want to do. of all the capitals in europe, it's still the cheapest, the more affordable. maybe you don't get anywhere and maybe you don't make much money, but you can create freely. no artist in new york city, paris or london can do this. >> well, you said you can't even rent the space. no, i mean, you can't. >> only if you really established artists. you can live in these places. so you can come to berlin and you can have maybe a little show in some. uh, basement or cellar and, uh, at least it's a start. and it's an interaction. and this is good. and this is really good about berlin. it

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