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around again. the new year's eve live coverage from times square begins at 8 p.m. eastern. yes, we are drinking this year right here on cnn. that's it for us. the news continues right here on cnn. >> outfront next, new details about the funeral plans for former president jimmy carter. as tributes pour in from both sides of the aisle and around the world, how will he be remembered? his white house chief of staff is my guest, and we're learning about the final moments before this deadly plane crash in south korea that killed 179 people. a bird strike and an aborted landing. this as investigators examine the black boxes. we're live from the scene. plus blame game. putin under fire from an ally who is demanding an apology and punishment. let's go out front. good evening. i'm brianna keilar in for erin burnett outfront tonight. new information just coming in about plans for jimmy carter's funeral services honoring the 39th president will begin january 4th and conclude on

january 9th. the former president will lie in repose at the carter center in atlanta before he's moved to the u.s. capitol, where he will lie in state from january 7th to the ninth. carter's official funeral service will take place at the national cathedral in washington on the ninth. president biden will deliver the eulogy at that service. biden has said that carter himself asked him to deliver that speech. when carter first ran for president in the 1976 election. biden was the first senator to endorse him. biden has also designated january 9th as a national day of mourning, and the new york stock exchange and nasdaq announced today they will be closed that day in honor of carter. and tonight, flags flying at half staff at the capitol. also at the white house and across the country, red and blue states paying respects to carter, the only former president to reach 100 years old. memorials growing throughout the day outside of the carter center in atlanta, as americans came by to pay their respects and condolences pouring in from around the

world as well. chinese leader xi jinping saying today that he is, quote, deeply saddened by carter's death. xi, noting that carter was instrumental in establishing diplomatic ties between china and the u.s. and israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu, sending his condolences and noting carter's role in, quote, forging the first arab-israeli peace treaty. eva mckend is out front now in plains, georgia, carter's hometown. eva, what more are you learning about the memorial and the funeral plans? >> well, brianna, there are going to be multiple celebrations of life for jimmy carter. maranatha baptist church just wrapped up a vigil. that, of course, is where president carter led sunday school for many years. he will return here to plains on saturday before ultimately that funeral service in washington, where president biden will eulogize president carter. but for the people here in plains, they are sad, but

they are also walking around with a tremendous sense of pride as people descend here from all over the country. and we are going to hear in the coming weeks about president carter's commitment to a life of service. but for them, the roughly 540 people that live here in plains, he was their neighbor. we spoke with benita hightower. she owns a restaurant here in town. and take a listen to how she's thinking about this moment. >> to go all over the world. and he could have chose to live anywhere. but he comes back home. you know, i take it personally. i said, well, he came back home to let me know that you can do the same thing, benita, whatever it is that that is on your on your path, it doesn't matter where you come from. just use what you got and do great things with it. >> and, brianna, i'll leave you with this. this is a very rural part of conservative georgia. and all throughout this community or in the towns

leading up to this one, you would see trump signs on people's lawns. and i spoke to a woman here today. she said that she was a proud republican, but she loved jimmy carter. she referred to him as mister jimmy. so what you're hearing from people here is that the love and the respect for his life of service really transcends politics. brianna, we are seeing that bipartisan outpouring eva mckend live for us from plains, georgia. >> thank you. and out front now, president carter's white house chief of staff, jack watson. and jack, we have some images of you and carter during his presidency. we can see you guys together in the oval office. you worked very closely with him over the years. how are you remembering him tonight? >> well, i'm remembering him as a man who was totally, totally committed to his job. he. he was one of the most self-disciplined and self-confident men i've ever known. he also had one of the great advantages that many,

many presidents perhaps don't have, to the extent that president carter did, uh, in that he had rosalynn carter as his partner. their partnership was one of the really great partnerships that i have ever witnessed or known. >> about 77 years together. it's amazing. what is his legacy? as you see it? >> i'm sorry. say it again. >> his legacy. what is his legacy as you see it yes. >> rebecca, i think his legacy is that he was a president who who spoke the truth. he was the president who wanted to do the right thing, almost irrespective of whether it was the politically advantageous thing to do. when we would go to him with a memorandum saying, let's do this, we think this is the right way to go, and then we would have a we'd

have a political analysis and time after time after time, the president would say, no, i don't i don't need you to tell me the politics. tell me what the right thing to do is and will do that, and we'll work the politics out. >> do you think ultimately that is part of why he was a one term president, that he would want to think about the politics? second? >> yes. actually, rosalynn was a much better politician than than jimmy was. she had she had a very keen sense of people and of politics. she was intuitive. she would get exasperated sometimes with the president because he was not paying in her, in her opinion, sufficient attention to the political implications of what he wanted to do. but time and time again, whether it was a panama canal or or energy policy or the

creation of, of. of energy. um, i lost my train of thought. forgive me. yes. well, he he created the department of energy. uh, and that was a that was a controversial thing to do. he he wanted to reduce by by orders of magnitude the the country's reliance on foreign oil. and and he did that when he came, when he came into office. uh, we were we were very dependent on foreign oil. when he left office, we had we had dropped our reliance on imported oil by 1.8 million barrels a day. and that's that's simply because he was so dedicated to getting that done. >> and, jack, you know, his success in politics, it seems really unlikely when you look at it, a peanut

farmer from humble beginnings ultimately becoming president. how did he beat the odds to do it? do you think that's that's what i was referring to a moment ago? >> rebecca, i've never known anyone in my life. i've never known of anyone who had such a supreme self-confidence and who who knew that if he if he went hard and fast towards his goals, he would get it done. and i saw that time and time and time again. >> jack, it's great to have you. jack watson, thank you so much for being with us thank you rebecca. and we have james carville, paul begala, julian zelizer with us now. james, you say that the popular notion that carter was an unremarkable president, but a great post-presidency is not only

irritating, but untrue. tell us about that. >> well, pick up the paper. what do you read about the middle east? there's no war. no one in egypt and israel is shooting anybody. why? because, president carter, not now. trump has started this idiotic panama canal thing that will go nowhere. we forget that president carter did this. if you fly. it was president carter that deregulated the airlines. if you get goods by trucking, it was president carter that deregulated the trucking industry. and i think it's just become too convenient a thing for people to say, well, he he was just an okay president, but he was a great man. he was actually a very significant president. he started the military build up. everybody remembers that reagan was the guy that had the military buildup that contributed to the end of the cold war. it was actually started under carter. so yeah, it does kind of irritate me somewhat that his record is president is severely underappreciated. i mean, i know he's a great humanitarian, but if you want to say something bad about somebody, start out and tell

them that, well, he's a great humanitarian, but he was also a doggone good president. >> and he had a lot of successes on foreign policy. paul, you say carter was on the right side of history on many issues as president. >> well, he was and of course, julian is a historian. but but think about this. just think about three things that we're still fighting today. and we have from our founding. race. he came, he came around, he came to this country, this world. in 1924, in sumter county, georgia, which steeped in racism. and he was a young leader emerging. and they offered him a membership in the white citizens council, the klan. he turned them down. he was shunned, but he refused to join that klan front group as a young man, as a governor, he was very progressive on race. he as president, my gosh, he threw open the doors of opportunity to black american leaders andy young, the great andy young, friends of mine like alexis herman, ernie green, they got their start because jimmy carter opened the opportunities to them on women.

he supported the era, something i still think we need today. when he became president, there were eight women in the federal judiciary. eight out of 8 or 908 he appointed 41 in just four years. one of them, ruth bader ginsburg. he put on the appeals court in d.c. she's so immensely talented that his successor, bill clinton, put her on the supreme court. look at the environment. he was a hunter and a fisherman, as well as a as a farmer. he understood, really from the dirt up how important the environment is. he saved tens of millions of acres of wilderness in alaska so that people forevermore, americans can hunt and fish and hike and explore there. so yeah, i'm with james by his post-presidency is great. he built over 4000 houses for poor people, but as an american president on issues that matter the most. he was always consistently on the right side of history. >> and julian, looking at carter's one term through your historian's lens, you've written, quote, carter demonstrated how a commander in chief who is willing to burn political capital and focus on noble objectives rather than

short term benefits, can do great things for the nation and the world. but as you point out, that ultimately cost him. we just heard from his chief of staff, who feels similarly. it cost his party politically as well. but what did it mean for his legacy? >> well, i think both things could be true. he is and was a very impactful one term president who put forth a lot of legislative and diplomatic accomplishments that we've heard of. he put ideas on the table, such as conservation and the environment at the presidential level that we're still dealing with today. at the same time, he struggled with politics and his own party by 1980 was quite divided. many didn't like some of the things he had focused on. but most important, it's not that he was a one term president. he opened the door to the reagan presidency and to the conservative movement. that in many ways was antithetical to what he stood for. so i think both are going to be parts of

his legacy and the tensions that we look at when we look back at his presidency. >> james, i wonder what carter's trajectory meant to you and maybe also democrats from the south. >> well, i was born 20 years after him in the late 70s. remember, president carter was the governor of georgia. he was bill clinton was starting to rise in arkansas. william winter was rising in mississippi. we had reubin askew in florida. we had the rise of richard riley in south carolina. things looked good. if you were a southern democrat at that time, you were starting to feel pretty good about things. and of course, it came crashing down in the 80s. but these were we had some really outstanding southern leaders in the democratic party at that time. and president carter was significant person. paul and i ran a race in georgia in 1990, only ten years after his presidency. so we knew and were close to all of the carter people and, you

know, heard stories about what he was and what a remarkable person he was. so, yeah, it meant a lot to me being a southern democrat. >> and paul, his faith was pretty remarkable, too. it was a compass for him, really, when it came to the priorities that he set during his presidency and also after his presidency, it really set him apart. >> yeah. you know, he was a southern baptist, which is usually identified with conservatism and even evangelical. uh, i'm a catholic in my church, saint francis told his followers, the franciscans go forth and preach the gospel when necessary, use words. that's jimmy carter's kind of christianity, right? he he certainly preached. he literally taught sunday school, but he lived his religious values so wonderfully and not in a judgmental way. his grandson, jason carter, told me this once, that that president gave him a signed photograph that sadat had given him, anwar sadat, the egyptian leader. and he said to him, jason, we're christians. one of the finest

men i ever knew was a faithful muslim. we should never hate anybody for their religion. i loved this man, and he was in a completely different religion than us. and that's that's the kind of, i think, faith that animated what jimmy carter did, as well as what he said. >> the teaching sunday school. it's so normal, julian, and i've heard multiple stories today from folks that i've talked to about jimmy and rosalynn carter themselves, getting their guests a glass of water or making them a peanut butter banana sandwich. in the case of jimmy carter. revolutionary, i know, but actually it kind of is for a president or a former president. and he really removed some of the stuffy formality from the presidency, the first to get out of the presidential limo and walk part of the inaugural parade route. now a tradition. he wore blue jeans as well. during his presidency. what did that convey to americans? >> that was really important. we have to remember he's

elected when many americans are still reeling from vietnam, from watergate, from the sense that the presidency could not be trusted. and he worked very hard, especially in his first year, to try to reestablish that trust and make the presidency less imperial. when he got out during the inaugural procession with rosalyn and with amy, and walks down the parade route. americans were very thrilled at the time, and he says in his memoirs he was thinking about how angry so much of the electorate was. he doesn't have hail to the chief plate initially, not because he doesn't believe in the presidency, but he wants to make it a little more connected to the average american voters. and ultimately, some of this failed. i think some of the legacy was not, you know, fulfilled, but it was a very important part of that post-watergate moment. >> yeah. and perhaps his appeal that put him in the white

house, james, paul, julian, it's so great to talk to you all about such a statesman. thank you so much for being with me tonight. >> thanks, brianna. >> outfront next, we have more on jimmy carter's legacy, including his fight against a segregated georgia. >> i say to you, quite frankly, that the time for racial discrimination is over. >> and new details about the deadly plane crash in south korea. the pilot reporting a bird strike while coming in to land. but is that all that went wrong? we are live from the scene. plus wrongfully detained. the state department finally granting that status to marc fogel, an american serving a 14 year prison sentence in russia. what could it mean for his release? we have his sister out front. >> you know what's smart? treating yourself without cheating your goals. indulge responsibly with factor. all of

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american hostages in iran, inflation and a weak economy and energy crisis to it all confronted and confounded president jimmy carter during his single term in office. >> we attest once again to the inner and spiritual strength of our nation. >> but in recent decades, historians and pundits alike have taken a second look at his presidency and are finding a legacy of success that does not lie in predictable political metrics. >> it was carter's personal integrity, his morals, his values. partially. why we're going to be celebrating his extraordinary life over the next couple of weeks is for that reason, legislatively, the democratic maverick and washington outsider faced stiff opposition from both sides of the aisle. >> yet he racked up a largely winning record for his issues in congress, for example, promoting job security and energy policies when gas lines formed and consumer prices soared, he steadily worked to

improve the situation without pandering to voters. all of us must learn to waste less energy through shrewd negotiations. carter personally brokered the biggest, longest lasting mideast peace deal of modern times between israel and egypt. congratulations, all of us owe them our gratitude and respect. he vowed to bring every hostage in iran home alive and at ronald reagan's inauguration, he learned he had done it. >> the aircraft carrying the 52 american hostages had cleared iranian airspace on the first. first leg of a journey home. and at every one of the 52 hostages was alive, was well. and free. >> after his presidency, carter worked endlessly alongside his wife, rosalynn, building homes for poor families, teaching sunday school, and striving to

eliminate health threats in africa. >> we believe that in the next 2 or 3 years, we'll have zero cases of guinea worm in sudan. >> it wasn't about the amount of money that they could make with paid speeches and sitting on boards. it was about really helping people. it sounds like a cliche, but i mean, it's absolutely true about the carters. >> yeah. >> in one of several long conversations i had with jimmy carter over the years, i asked him for all of that. why do so many people say your presidency was a failure? and he said, in large part, just because i didn't win reelection. but importantly, he said, when i won the white house, i didn't want to waste four years just trying to get reelected. i wanted to do things, and he did. and i think historians are now beginning to really catch on and rewrite the books to say no. this was a consequential president, perhaps one of the most consequential of our lifetime. bri. >> tom foreman, thank you for that report. outfront now, congressman james clyburn.

congressman, what are you remembering tonight most about president carter? >> well, thank you very much for having me. you know, jimmy carter became governor of georgia in 1971, the same year that john west became governor of south carolina and invited me to his staff. i served on governor west staff, and at the same time, governor carter appointed an african-american woman to his staff, rita samuel. and the two of us developed a very close relationship, and we, uh, sort of complimented each other. we tracked what was going on in georgia because these two men decided that the south. should chart a different path. and so jimmy carter became what everybody called the

new south, and he demonstrated during his four years in the governorship. and then his presidency. uh, that such leadership could come from the deep south. now, i know that, um, delaware is not a southern state. texas. is not a is a southern state. they're not considered in the deep south, but it's kind of interesting to me to look at jimmy carter and look at lyndon johnson. and now look at joe biden, all from former slave states. they have demonstrated that old adage, that experience is the best teacher. and jimmy carter's experience in georgia, following someone like lester maddox made him the kind of governor and the kind of

president that he became. and now that historians are beginning to look back on his administration, they're coming to different conclusions about what kind of president this man really was. let's take one example. on energy. jimmy carter put solar panels on the white house. ronald reagan took them off. now, wherever you are today with solar panels, solar panels are being put on everything that you can think of. uh, and jimmy carter was just far ahead of his time. and if ronald reagan had just continued to build on what jimmy carter started as an engineer, he knew what we needed to do. creating the department of energy. and now people are saying that climate change is one of the most serious things going on in the world today. jimmy carter was there way back in the late

1970s, and it's a shame the country didn't keep going in that direction. but now we're coming back to where jimmy carter was, uh, 40 years ago. >> i do want to play a moment, uh, to sort of build on something you said. this is from carter's inauguration as governor of georgia, and it was something he said that shocked his audience. here it is. >> i say to you, quite frankly, that the time for racial discrimination is over. no, poor, rural, weak or black person should ever have to bear the additional burden of being deprived of the opportunity of an education, a job, or a simple justice. >> georgia, of course, was deeply segregated. what was it like seeing that moment? how did that resonate in the south when that happened?

>> well, as you can imagine, that was not popular with a lot of people in georgia. uh, john west said something similar just a few days. uh, apart from that, these two men wished for the south. something different from what the history had been. and they did things that made these movements go forward. jimmy carter, when he got to be president, he appointed more african-americans to the judiciary than anybody before him. i have not heard people talk about that a whole lot today. uh, but jimmy carter did that, and nobody has come close to that since him until now with joe biden. and he, too, happens to be from not a southern state, because i know where the mason-dixon line is. but it was a former slave state. uh, that delaware was. and so that is what these

enlightened southern gentlemen did. bill clinton, arkansas, just think about it. these are democrats. arkansas texas, georgia. south carolina, these people were deeply rooted in the history of the country and knew that what makes this country great is the things we can do to correct our faults. and so i am proud of having served john west. i'm proud of the relationship i had with jimmy carter, with his employee rita samuels. uh, his mother, lillian carter. uh, i worked with her very closely when they were putting together the campaign long before i ever knew who jody powell and ham jordan were. uh, but we all worked together trying to create a new south for our children and grandchildren. and i think we did a much better

job than jimmy carter has ever gotten credit for. and i'm glad to see now that people are beginning to pay attention to what they did. and it seems for jimmy carter, i don't know where they've gotten a bill clinton at least more. uh, a joe biden. >> yeah, he's he's getting a lot of credit today and a lot of remember he worked with aaron brown for several years. >> and, john, i really want to thank you for being with us. and i'm just give us your reflections about the man that you knew and the man you worked with. >> he was a tough guy to work for, but he could also be quite mentoring. he could be quite supportive. um, and he would always ask some of the most difficult questions you could ever possibly imagine. but i remember that day on 9/11, and he was actually on air earlier than cnn had planned for him to come over from abc. so he his very first day at cnn was pretty much the nine over 11 coverage. and a few hours after that moment, which you just played, was the moment which i think anybody who is watching probably doesn't forget. it was when the south tower came down. aaron was live on air. he

just stopped. he looked at it and paused, and he shared this moment that everybody was thinking he was a good lord. there are no words. and he paused, and it was a moment which everyone shared, because at that moment there were none. uh, but he then went on to find the words, and he and he covered that day incredibly well. i mean, it was a day of that was very much to aaron in a journalistic way. and when he finally got off the roof of the new york bureau back in the day, when it was opposite penn station, and he told me that he went to dc about a week later and he walked into a hotel foyer and everybody in that foyer stood up and applauded. such was their connection with aaron for his coverage of nine over 11. >> yeah. john. and you're so right in that for each and every one of us, it helped shape the way we looked at that terrible tragedy that day. and we still many of us remember his voice, how calm he was. and as you point out, how human those words were, um, in in terms of what he brought to journalism, though, he really

did base it in the basics of storytelling. >> he was old school. he was very much in the peter jennings mold, the, you know, the, you know, the the legendary abc anchor who was the anchor man's anchor, if you like. and aaron was very much his protege, and he could be very demanding. he was a great writer. he was a great reporter. he was always about the facts. he you could never pick his politics. um, but i would always remember as a reporter, he would always ask the most obscure yet the most sort of incisive questions you could possibly imagine. it was almost like doing your, you know, your midyear midterm year finals or something. every time you're doing a live shot with aaron. because if if you didn't know the answer, the most important thing he taught me was the words i don't know are perfectly acceptable. and, you know, that's one of the greatest things that he taught me as a reporter. but he also taught me to certainly lift my game and be a much better reporter, to be ready for those questions that only he could ask. yeah. >> and as the world and politics have become so much

more complicated, it is something so many of us can learn. his approach, his style was calm, john, almost meditative in knowing him, given the way journalism was gone, it must have been difficult for him to stick to that style. i'm sure he had lots of opinions of people saying, you know, can you pick it up a little bit? >> the funny thing is that anybody who watched newsnight regularly and i was a regular viewer, it was a show that had inside jokes. and if you were like i said, if you're a regular viewer, you you knew what the jokes were and you were part of the club, and that was the gift that aaron had. he could bring everybody in. if you were a regular and if you knew him, and he had a very dry sense of humor, um, very, very dry at times. but, you know, you were part of the family almost, and you knew the jokes that and the, you know, the inside gags that were happening at the time. the sort of ironic thing about his life, though, is that he was, in fact, a university dropout. he never finished. he went into the coast guard reserve, and then at the end of his career, he ended up being this great

lecturer and the head of the walter cronkite school of journalism at arizona university. so it was kind of like a full circle in many ways for him. >> and i'm sure his students gained a lot of insight from his teaching. um, i do wonder in terms of the day itself, though, if we return to nine over 11, that really is the moment that his career will be known for. i wonder how he interpreted that day. you gave that anecdote about people applauding. i didn't know him, but from what i have heard, it probably made him a little bit uncomfortable. >> yeah, he was very much, you know, the journalist journalist, and he was, uh, he didn't like the fame. he didn't like being in the spotlight outside of his office hours, if you like. i remember being on the roof of the new york bureau with him at the time, and, um, i told him what my job was at cnn. i had this self-assigned job of being the u.s. affairs correspondent before 9/11. i could be going around the country choosing any story i wanted to do. he asked me, does god know that you have

this job because you don't have it anymore? the world has changed. and he was right. everything had changed. um, and he he was mentoring in a way that was tough but fair. and also he, he was willing to share his, his wisdom and his experience, too, not with everybody. but, you know, those people who sort of connected with him because he was he wasn't the easiest person to get on with for some people. but i always found that he was, you know, he could be very supportive and he could be very accommodating and very much in your corner. if you asked for his help uh, indeed. >> a giant really in this industry. and again, there for so many pivotal moments. john vause, we are grateful to you for sharing your memories of him and his career. thanks so much. really appreciate it. joining us now is john auerbach. he was, in fact a senior producer on newsnight with aaron brown. and firstly, i just want to give you our condolences. obviously, given that you worked closely with

him, obviously this is terrible news. um, if you could just share kind of your thoughts about what comes to mind about the kind of journalist he was and the kind of colleague he was. >> uh, thanks, paula. yeah, it is. i think cable news and journalism in general has really lost an important person uh, today. and, um, you know, i don't want to rehash everything, john. all the good things john was just said. but i think it's true. you know, look, for the first part of the decade of this century, aaron was the face of news. whether it was 9/11, whether it was the iraq, afghanistan invasion, katrina, indonesia. aaron was front and center of everything. and i think for viewers, his sort of calm demeanor, not yelling at you, not being hysterical. sort of gave

everybody, i don't want to say a sense of calm because it's hard to say. there's a sense of calm in the midst of this chaos, but it certainly didn't make people feel any worse or more concerned about things they knew they were getting. the story. um, one of the things aaron always stressed, i think, to, um, reporters on the air and to his staff and to guests, that it's okay to say, i don't know as an answer. um, because that's truthful. and that's what we know at the time. um, so if you don't know the answer, say you don't have an answer, and we'll move on to something else. and i think that's something that also viewers learn to appreciate. >> um, you know, i read in what he was telling people about what inspired him to this career. there aren't many people who really see it as a vocation. apparently he did. and it was actually from the assassination of john f kennedy that he decided he wanted to be a journalist in working with him day in and day out. did he

have that sense of responsibility to say, look, this is a vocation and we owe this to our audiences? >> absolutely. um, he never took himself too seriously. um, he was grateful for the position he was in. um, but again, never thought he was better or smarter than anyone else. even a lot of times, he was the smartest guy in the room, but never talked down to guests or people that he was working with. you know, i think one of the things, you know, i talked about the viewership of aaron, but for his colleagues, it was he was a journalist, journalist. he was a writer, he was a craftsman. and that's something that maybe viewers don't realize. but peers do. and i think that's what earned him respect, not just within cnn,

but across broadcasting was just the poetry that he would create, whether it was a toss, you know, into a guest, whether it was a produced piece where he would rework the script with his producers. there was a craft there that, again, viewers might not necessarily pick up on, but those that worked with him and around him sure did. >> and, john, i want to ask you, in the latter years, he had been teaching, given the fact that journalism media has changed so much, what do you think are the enduring things that aaron wants to be able to leave to the profession he loved so much? because it can be tough out there right now, even when you're trying to go after the facts only, please and give the audiences as much transparency as you can. >> well, certainly reporting is still the most important thing. um, you need to get out there. you need to talk to people. you

need to talk to the people that know things. you need to double check with those people and what those people are saying. don't take anything for granted. um, again, you know, i talked about his writing ability, uh, you know, at the end of the day, it doesn't matter that you're on television, uh, as opposed to your newspaper reporter writing is still important. the basics of journalism still exist. and i think that's what he stressed. but but again, also. have a sense of humor about it. um, don't forget that. don't forget you're human. don't forget the people you're talking to are people. and not just sources or interviews. um, you need to have a rapport. you need to be personable, not just on air. when you know there are certain human values that just need to not be forgotten while you're pursuing journalism. >> um, yeah. >> you're so right. the word is thrown around a lot. the authenticity issue. but he really was authentic on air,

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>> good evening. the u.s. embassy in tehran has been invaded and occupied by iranian students. >> the american hostages in iran, inflation and a weak economy and energy crisis to it all, confronted and confounded president jimmy carter during his single term in office. >> we attest once again to the inner and spiritual strength of our nation. >> but in recent decades, historians and pundits alike have taken a second look at his presidency and are finding a legacy of success that does not lie in predictable political metrics. >> it was carter's personal integrity, his morals, his values partially. why we're going to be celebrating his extraordinary life over the next couple of weeks is for that reason, legislatively, the democratic maverick and washington outsider faced stiff opposition from both sides of the aisle. >> yet he racked up a largely winning record for his issues in congress, for example,

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