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months and years of practices, it's finally the last evaluation. number two. >> yeah, they take pictures with their mentors. >> and the room settles in for a series of group and solo performances designed to showcase the trainees dancing, rapping and singing skills. vocals are first. nayeon is up for lead vocalist gaetz allison chinchar girl, why don't you run away, run away? so is she, you say? well that's all in your head for don't. no, no. most of the trainees also perform a rap. dance
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is next. there are a series of solo performances. and then the group dance. the final act of the day. >> this is going to be maybe the last time some of you perform all together. >> so let's just have fun and see what they. >> hey hey hey hey. failing that, chai lemonade, i'm gonna drink it all night throwing out rumors. >> sugar and spice. throwing that pot to the water just right. >> the whole story with anderson cooper airs sunday at 8 p.m. and a new hour of cnn news central starts right now. >> two votes. just two votes. that is all it could take to strip mike johnson of the house speaker title. and one republican is already a
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definite no. so johnson's job hangs in the balance this morning. we've got a brand new whip count this morning. investigators find chemicals typically used to make explosive devices inside a home as they piece together a possible motive for the horrific terror attack in new orleans. and breaking. just moments ago, the u.s. surgeon general issues a new advisory warning that alcohol, the drinking could increase your risk of cancer and feel like your iphone is spying on your conversations. turns out it could be apple now shelling out $95 million to settle a privacy lawsuit. i'm john berman with sara sidner. kate is out this morning. this is cnn news central. so mike johnson is the speaker of the house this morning. the question is, will he be speaker tonight? we are standing by for
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the vote. that could cost him his job. his biggest problem is math. republicans hold one of the slimmest majorities ever. and if two republicans vote against him, that could cost him everything and cost president-elect trump something too. one republican has already said he is a hell no, that he would still vote against johnson even if you pulled out his fingernails, which seems like a pretty serious political position there. let's get to lauren fox live on capitol hill. counting the votes this morning, jim jordan right there behind you, smiling to our camera. so where is he? where is everyone on this vote this morning? >> yeah. good morning john. i mean, we are waiting to see what this vote count is going to be in just a couple of hours. but you can expect that speaker mike johnson is going to be working the phones, working members in his office as he is trying to get the votes, secure the votes that he needs in order to clinch that gavel. once again, just after
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noon today. now, we expect that there could be a series of holdouts and allies of speaker johnson have been preparing for the possibility that this could go multiple rounds. just remember, back in 2023, two years ago, then kevin mccarthy, who became the eventual speaker, he had to go 15 rounds to get that job. it was a five day battle to get the speaker's gavel, but we are waiting to see whether or not speaker mike johnson is going to be able to do this in the first round. yesterday on fox news, around 4:00, johnson was being pretty optimistic, saying he thought that they could get there in a single round of votes, saying he thought that he would be okay today. but we should just note there is already one hard no. and that is representative thomas massie of kentucky. here he is. >> i am the one. >> hell no. >> you know, they say there's up to 5 or 6 who may be voting no. you can count on me to be a
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no. you can pull all my fingernails out. you can shove bamboo up in them. you can start cutting off my fingers. i am not voting for mike johnson. and that's assuming, of course, and a couple of other republicans to watch really closely this morning. >> representative chip roy, who is a republican from texas, he has been demanding some structural changes to how johnson does business in the house. we are also awaiting whether or not representative victoria spartz would get to yes. on speaker mike johnson. she's another one who says that she wants concrete demands to be answered from the speaker of the house. i should note that earlier this week, donald trump, the incoming president, made clear that he is standing with speaker mike johnson, and that is weighing on some of the remaining holdouts. i talked to representative tim burchett yesterday, who still had not made up his mind definitively, but he made clear to me that trump's support for mike johnson was not something that members could simply ignore.
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john. >> yeah, we will see if anyone joins thomas massie and the fingernail caucus this morning. i mean, even one, even one member joining him on the first vote could cost johnson the job, or at least make it deeply uncomfortable for him. lauren fox being photobombed by jim jordan and others. we will come back to you as soon as we can. and of course, stay with cnn all morning long. we're covering the ins and outs of this vote. coverage continues after noon as well. sarah. >> all right. this morning, bourbon street is back open as serious questions about security measures in the french quarter loom after the deadly new year's day terror attack that left 14 people dead. a 2019 report by a private security firm warned there was a need for an immediate improvement on security barriers, flagging the potential for terrorism involving mass shootings or car attacks. was, quote, highly possible. in that report. authorities also trying to answer questions as to how several warning signs were missed and footage obtained exclusively by cnn. a ring
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camera captures him just hours before the attack, loading several items into his truck. a remote detonator was found in his vehicle, as well as multiple coolers loaded with explosive devices in two other locations in the french quarter. cnn's ryan young is live for us on the scene with the latest on this investigation. what are you learning this morning as bourbon street is back open for the public? >> yeah, back open sarah. and of course, there's a lot of questions about this. the fact that so many people even interacted and passed those coolers that were on the street, that explosion could have happened, and it could have rocked the street even more than what it already has been. i want to back out of the shot here and actually show you, as they did a security sweep here, they were checking out everything down the road, including all the trash cans that were placed here, because they wanted to make sure there were no ieds left behind. now, we also know they've added hardened security to the area just down the street here. there are police patrols still ongoing. but here's the thing.
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we actually walked with the police chief yesterday, had a one on one conversation about improving security, the steps that they were going to do moving forward. take a listen. >> so what we're doing right now is we're hardening the target. and that's the term we use for bringing in heavier equipment. and we are also putting what are called archers on the sidewalk, as you can see that. and that will give protection for anyone who would again try to access via the sidewalk that more lives. i know were spared and say it's not a takeaway at all from those who lost life, but our officers were the ones who stopped this terrorist. i'm so proud of them. >> yes, sir. so the two officers who were shot, who were injured, are now been released from the hospital. the chief talking about the fact in the next few days, we will probably learn their names. they still surged in hundreds
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of officers into this area. we saw families walking down the street sometimes especially for funerals and for weddings. they do what's called a second line. so they have the jazz music that plays. that kind of opens up. anyone who's been to the city gets a chance to enjoy and watch that. that's what we watched yesterday as they open the street. but a big focus, of course, is the super bowl that's coming next in terms of trying to make sure this place is ready. from that standpoint, we know some of those security improvements will be put in place. there will be hardened. of course, you talked about that other report, so there'll be plenty of questions about why it wasn't done before now. but new orleans says it's going to be getting ready for the big events they do. but of course, a lot of pain and a lot of feelings for the people who've already lost their lives. sarah. >> ryan young, thank you for your reporting. there. really appreciate it. this morning, we're also learning more about some of the 14 victims of the new orleans attack, including 25 year old matthew tenedorio. his
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cousin telling cnn that on the night of the attack, he had dinner with his family before heading out to ring in the new year with his friends. his heartbroken parents spoke with cnn this morning. >> i, uh, the gravity of the situation really hit home, and i just realized that i will never my son again. >> and i just i just broke down and, uh, honestly, my heart is broken and, um, for everyone, not just for us, for all of the families that lost their. it's just overwhelming, uh, members and friends, when it happens, you know, when it happens to your own. you, me personally, i start thinking, lord, what did i do? what? why? you know why this? why? it questions everything. you know, you question everything and i just.
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yeah, yeah. it's just so hard for me right now to. to live with. >> for all the families. this is such devastation. in addition to matthew. and you saw his parents lou tenedorio there. we've learned the names of some of the other victims, including reggie hunter hubert gauthreaux, drew dauphin. billy dimaio, nicole perez, tiger bech and kareem badawi. we'll hear more about them from their loved ones later on this hour. all right. ahead, brand new video evidence in a four year old mystery. the fbi once again asking for help to track down the person who planted pipe bombs in d.c. before the january 6th insurrection. and remembering jimmy carter. we'll take you live to plains, georgia, where ceremonies to honor the former president begin this weekend. also breaking health news this morning, the surgeon general
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week long farewell starts saturday and ends with the state funeral in washington, d.c., on january 9th. he will then be laid to rest in his hometown of plains, georgia, a town so small it doesn't even have a stoplight. cnn's eva mckend is live in plains this morning. eva, what are you hearing about the plans that the people of plains may have and the tributes that will be coming in? >> well, sara, as you can imagine, the people in this small community have been girding themselves for this moment for quite some time and time and time again, i hear them describe this period as bittersweet, that now so many americans will be able to reflect on the life and legacy of jimmy carter, even though that they have lost their hometown hero. >> things will kick off tomorrow in nearby americus at phoebe sumter medical center. that is where members of carter's secret service detail will usher his body
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into the hearse. these, of course, are members of the secret service that have served with him or served under him for many decades. then here in plains, what we are going to see is the motorcade pass through and members of the community. and we know, of course, it's not only going to be people from here in plains, but people from all over the country will be able to line the street to say their final goodbyes before jimmy carter ultimately heads to atlanta, washington, d.c. and then, true to form, back here to his hometown of plains for his final resting place. i caught up with the former head of the boys and girls club, the local organization. take a listen to how he's thinking about this moment. >> i want everybody to understand that, you know, the grave is only getting the body. his spirit will live on forever. and the legacy that he lives on, that he left behind will live forever. and it's incumbent upon each of us to to live the type of life that jimmy carter did not focused on self, but trying to do the best
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that we can do for all of mankind. >> so, sara, starting tomorrow, this will be a multi-state affair, but it will all end in plains, right where it began, where a former peanut farmer ascended to the governorship and ultimately to the presidency. and it still means so much to the people here, sara. >> and certainly his legacy with things like habitat for humanity, people still living in those houses, still so appreciative of the work that he has done. eva mckend, thank you so much. appreciate it john. >> all right. new this morning. the fbi has released new surveillance angles from the night before the attempted insurrection on january 6th, 2021, trying to solve the mystery of who planted two pipe bombs near the rnc and dnc headquarters. cnn's evan perez has the latest. >> four years after someone placed two pipe bombs near the republican and democratic national committee headquarters in washington, the fbi is hoping that allegiances have changed and that someone who
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knows the would be bomber is ready to talk. despite a $50,000 reward and conducting 1000 interviews, the fbi has so far still been unable to solve the mystery. who placed the bombs blocks from the u.s. capitol on january 5th, 2021, the night before president donald trump would make his last ditch effort to overturn the 2020 election. the bombs were found just before a pro-trump mob arrived on capitol hill, drawing police away from the capitol before before the first wave of violence began. the fbi has released these new video angles of the suspect near both locations, as well as a new height estimate of the suspect five feet, seven inches. in one video, the person stops on a residential street, putting down their backpack, and appears to put on a pair of glasses before scanning the surrounding area. another video shows a previously unreleased footage, with a new angle of the person placing a bomb under a bench near the dnc. now i
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walked along some of the route the suspect took as they placed the bombs, with the man leading the investigation, david sundberg, the assistant director in charge of the fbi's washington field office. and he says that they're hoping to generate more tips from the public. >> the tips from the public really have been very helpful. but as i mentioned, we we we're still trying to identify the suspect. so we're trying to release a little more information, okay. such that maybe it will jog someone's memory. maybe allegiances have changed or relationships have changed and it's time to report. >> now, sundberg says this is not a cold case. the fbi will continue to try to find the bomber, no matter how long it takes. >> the fbi has got a long memory. it's got a long reach, and we will work these cases to their logical conclusion. >>shington. >> our thanks to evan there. all right. the u.s. surgeon general is sounding the alarm about the link between alcohol and increased cancer
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risk in a new advisory. he's linking alcohol consumption to seven types of cancer and is calling for warning labels on alcoholic beverages, just like the ones you see on cigarettes. cnn's meg tirrell is joining us now with the details. this is quite something. i'm very curious to hear what these links are. >> yeah, sarah, i mean, this is the direction that the scientific research has been headed for some time. >> we've increasingly been hearing that no amount of alcohol is really recommended for your health. >> and that really goes against the suggestions we've been hearing since the 90s that maybe alcohol, at in moderation, maybe red wine, maybe it's good for you. >> increasingly, that's been going in the opposite direction. >> and so today the u.s. surgeon general is issuing this advisory, noting that alcohol is the third leading preventable cause of cancer in the united states, after tobacco and obesity, and notes that even though this scientific research has been
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emerging, the majority of americans actually don't realize that risk between alcohol and cancer in their release, they're noting that alcohol consumption increases the risk of at least seven different types of cancer. >> and as part of this advisory, the surgeon general is also calling for an update to the health warning labels on alcoholic beverages to include this link to cancer. he notes that there are 100,000 cases and 20,000 deaths associated with cancer that are linked to alcohol in the united states every year, and so those seven different types of cancer that have the link to alcohol consumption are breast cancer, colorectal cancer, esophagus cancer, liver, mouth, throat and voice box cancer. he notes that more than 16% of breast cancer cases are attributable to alcohol consumption. sarah. so this is something that's trying to raise awareness to make sure that folks know about this link, where the scientific evidence has been going for some time. >> yeah, it was the one thing my doctor said that i could not
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have after being diagnosed with cancer was was alcohol was the one thing. how difficult, though is it going to be to get warning labels on alcoholic beverages? i seem to remember there is a big fight about cigarettes. >> yeah, you know, it's going to have to go through congress. we'll have to see what the support is there for that. with this incoming administration, we know that president trump abstains from alcohol. rfk jr., of course, his nominee for health secretary is somebody who doesn't drink either. and so we'll have to see what their support is for it, as well as what the support is in congress. we know that this incoming administration is putting a lot of emphasis on chronic disease management, for example, and it will be interesting to see how this goes. and also interesting that the surgeon general issues this just with a few weeks left to go before the new administration comes in. >> yeah, that is right. meg tirrell thank you so much. it's really interesting. appreciate it john. >> all right. we are chasing down republicans on capitol hill this morning to figure out
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and then everything changed, dana said. you're still you and i love you. >> super man. >> the christopher reeve story coming in february on cnn. >> new congress, same old fight. the big question on capitol hill today, does house speaker mike johnson have the votes to keep the speakership? he can only afford to lose two republicans. and right now one has already said hell no. and several more are not committing to johnson. cnn's senior data reporter harry enten is here. on this third day of january. walk us through the math. >> i just want to note that my button on the top right here, the collar. i realized i had one button, one unbutton. i was able to get that second one button just in time. >> i'm impressed because that button was saying hell no this morning. >> that's exactly right. we're going to say hell no a lot in this segment. okay, so look, this is the simple math. we went through it yesterday. i feel like it's deja vu all over again when it comes to these speaker races. look, this is the simple math, right? gop reps can sink johnson's speaker bid in scenario one. if just two, vote against him. if just
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two republican representatives vote against him. assuming, of course, 434 members vote and no democrats vote for johnson, which is what we expect if just two republicans vote against him. he doesn't win the speakership. how about scenario two? if one votes against him and then two abstain, i.e. vote present, then that two would deny johnson the speakership. look, we're dealing with a historically narrow majority, the narrowest going into a speaker's vote this early in the congress since 1917. and the bottom line is, the math is just so, so tight. just a few republicans can throw this entire situation into gosh darn chaos. >> all right. we saw 15 votes, i think, to get the former speaker in place. he kept losing, kept losing and finally won. where do we stand right now with what we know? were the gop members are? yeah. >> and keep in mind the math here is turning every few minutes. so stay tuned on this. i actually took a slide out because i wasn't so confident the math, but i am confident on this particular slide. some
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republicans who may not vote for johnson, thomas massie of kentucky, he is, as i said, we were going to say hell no on this segment. he is a hell no. i'm voting for johnson, at least on that first ballot. how about serious qualms, remember? then we just need either one more republican to vote against or two to vote present. that is, abstain. and look at this chip roy of texas. and then, of course, victoria spartz of the great state of indiana. and keep in mind, keep in mind, both of these folks didn't vote for kevin mccarthy. you mentioned that 15 vote thing. they didn't vote for kevin mccarthy on five or more ballots in january of 2023. so the idea that these two would throw the speakership race into a complete mess, well, there's some real history of that going on here. so both of these are definitely in play. but thomas massie at this point is the quote, unquote, hell no. and that's probably going to be the last time i use the word hell, at least in this segment, though. >> we'll see why. thank you harry. it's only the third. we can't say it more than three times. i do want to mention the reason why we know is because they have been public about it. there are some republicans who have not been so public about it, but privately talking about it. so what is the chance we
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end up? johnson wins on the first ballot. >> yeah, exactly right. and as you pointed out, there are others. there are others, at least on the first ballot who may not vote for johnson. these are just the ones publicly that we know. now, here's the thing to keep in mind. this is the chance that mike johnson wins on wins the speakership. and this is per an average of the betting markets on the first ballot, it's 35%. so that's south of 50, right. although, you know, it really wouldn't be surprising. 1 in 3 things happen all the time. but here's the key thing. just because he loses on the first ballot doesn't mean he won't win on the second ballot. third ballot. fourth ballot. accelerate at some point that johnson wins, it's 90% now. again, that's not 100%, but it's far more likely than not. so just because johnson if johnson loses on the first ballot, it doesn't mean that he won't eventually get it. at this point, that seems like the most likely possibility. >> absolutely. although it shows the chaos of what is happening in congress, the public doesn't love to see that. >> you're correct. >> amundo. all right. thank you. but we do love your chaos. harry enten you're always welcome back. >> hell yes, to my chaos. oh, yeah. >> john.
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>> all right. with us now is fred upton, former republican congressman from michigan. congressman, always great to see you. so you've been around for one at least of these mad scrambles for speakership before. what happens behind the scenes on mornings like this well, this is a little bit like a used car salesman or maybe a regular deal dealer at the auto auto place, but the speaker is going to say, okay, what is it? >> how is it that i can get your vote? how is it that i can sell you this car? so there is a lot of deal making now, we saw that with kevin mccarthy two years ago. they were the subcommittee chairmanships offered. there was a there's a there's a slew of bennies that that can be offered that might perhaps sway a member to say, okay, i'll vote for you whether it's the 10th ballot or the 15th ballot. so let's look at the folks that that harry just talked about. chip roy.
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chip roy is on the rules committee. he's made it known that he'd like to be chairman of that committee. that is a committee spot that is actually determined solely by the speaker of the house. and it may be in play, particularly if it's the second or third or maybe even the fourth ballot. now, what is it that the others might want? maybe it's a subcommittee chairmanship someplace, so maybe it's a spot on the intelligence committee, a pretty high standing spot that most members would welcome a chance to participate in. so you got to look at absentees today. now, you know, i was there in 99 when, uh, speaker gingrich all of a sudden saw that he didn't have the votes. and rather than go through this, you know, drama for sure that we're going to go through today, maybe, but certainly two years ago, he suddenly withdrew and his likely successor was bob livingston. well, bob livingston had made a big point of, uh, bill clinton during the impeachment with monica lewinsky. and sure enough, bob livingston had an issue on the
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personal side that got exposed. and with a with a little bit of fanfare, livingston took himself out of the running and all of a sudden we ended up with denny hastert, a guy who, when he went to the office that morning on january 6th, had no idea that all of a sudden he'd be second in line to the presidency. when we had the vote later that afternoon. so there's a lot of drama today. we'll see how it happens. it's going to be a really razor thin, as we all know. as harry pointed out. >> what do you think that mike johnson should be wary about promising or giving up or deal making? where do you think he'll draw that line on deal making? >> well, i think most 99% of my my colleagues, their republican colleagues don't want to go through this again. there was a big black eye on the republican house conference two years ago, 15 ballots. i mean, we went, what, two weeks? almost. it
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seems. but january 6th, monday is the day that they count the votes for the the electoral college. they don't want to have that screwed up. nothing can happen until a speaker is determined. and of course, january 6th is in the constitution as well. it sets the whole stage for the january 20th and the 47th president. so they got to get this thing done either today or tomorrow. there'll be a lot of meetings there. could you may need to call in some orthopedic surgeons to come look at some of the broken arms and legs that come about. but at the end of the day, i agree with harry that 90% chance that johnson will be be the speaker. uh, but and just about everyone will say, you know, you got to do what you got to do to get the votes to get this thing done. >> what does it say about his speakership? if there are trails of broken arms and legs that got him to that post by the end of today.
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>> well, you know what? this is going to be the case for the next two years. the margin is very slim, and you're going to lose three house republicans a little bit later, probably later this month when they take appointments into the new administration. so the margin will even be less than that. and god help us if somebody gets sick or, you know, killed, like my former colleague jackie walorski was killed in a car accident with her constituents, uh, a few years ago. all of a sudden, that margin can really change. and but, you know, whether it's the debt ceiling, whether it's the continuing resolution, whether it's immigration, whether it's amendments, i mean, a whole number of different things that are going to come out, uh, that will be on the front burner, where johnson's margin will only be one vote, maybe even less than that in the months ahead. so this is going to be a congress that's going to take a lot of, uh. uh, attention by the speaker literally on every single vote. that we have is is going to have to be really good
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at counting votes. otherwise there'll be some real surprises at the ranch. >> yeah. look, whatever pain there is today, it's only the beginning. all right? former republican congressman fred upton, always great to see you. happy new year. yep. so this morning, new photos of the suspect in the coolers filled with explosives that authorities believe he planted ahead of his deadly new year's day attack. apple has agreed to pay $95 million to settle a proposed class action lawsuit. why? some say siri violated their privacy. >> kobe believed in himself at the youngest possible age. >> it's one of the most remarkable stories in sports history. >> i don't want to be remembered as just a basketball player. >> kobe premieres january 25th on cnn. >> maya knows how quality care can bring out a smile, but it's been a few dog years since she was able to enjoy a smile of her own. good thing
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information about some of the victims. cnn's danny freeman has the latest. >> my grandma. grandpa. everybody is just crying, wailing together. >> and yesterday my grandma cried nonstop for eight hours. >> like, we just can't believe it. >> 25 year old matthew tenedorio was from slidell, louisiana, the youngest brother of three. >> loved working with his dad at the superdome. matt had dinner with his family earlier on new year's eve, and his cousin said matt was not hit by the truck that night, but died from a gunshot. matt's mother devastated. >> she wanted people to know that he was so lovable and kind and that he liked skateboarding, you know, and he loved his niece and nephews and, um. >> yeah. and that they're heartbroken. >> matt is just one of 14 who were killed in the new year's day morning horror on bourbon street. >> they mattered. the families matter and matter to the city of new orleans.
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>> 37 year old reggie hunter was a father of two, an 11 year old and a one year old. he was from baton rouge, louisiana. >> he was a beautiful person inside and out. um, to know richard was to love reggie. >> reggie survived the initial attack, but passed away at the hospital from internal injuries. >> you can change the environment in the room. um. always smiling. just pure person. good. pure hearted person. >> tiger bech was 27 years old. the former princeton football player from lafayette, louisiana. according to his sister, virginia, tiger was walking back to his hotel with his best friend on new year's eve when they were both struck. his friend survived, but tiger passed away at the hospital. tiger sister virginia telling cnn she's heartbroken. but evil will not prevail. 21 year old hubert gauthreaux was killed in the attack as well. his high school in marrero, louisiana, asking the community to pray for the repose of hubert's soul. his family and friends
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during this difficult time. drew dauphin graduated from auburn university in 2023. words cannot convey the sorrow the auburn family feels for drew's family and friends during this unimaginably difficult time, wrote the university's president, christopher roberts. the university of alabama confirmed student kareem badawi was also one of the victims. the president of that school, writing, i grieve alongside family and friends of kareem in their heartbreaking loss. we're still learning more about the 14 people lost and the dozens injured on new year's day. parents, siblings, students, locals and tourists. loved and not forgotten. danny freeman, cnn. >> all right. the fbi has now officially deemed the truck attack in new orleans an act of terrorism. they found materials to make explosives in a house linked to him, and also have him on surveillance video, placing coolers with explosives
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in them in the french quarter. joining me now to discuss our cnn senior national security analyst, juliette kayyem, and former cia counterterrorism official phil mudd. thank you both for joining us. it is just day three of january. we started off the year with this horrific attack. juliette, you wrote this really great piece a while ago about lone wolves. the fbi now saying, look, he acted alone. a lone wolf, if you will. but you've talked a lot about this in the past, and you've argued there are no lone wolves. what do you mean by that? >> i think we may find that in this case, it's essentially this concept of lone wolf is some guy sitting alone in his room, and he decides all of a sudden, i'm a member of i.s.i.s. and goes out in the world and does harm. >> what we see now in this kind of terrorism and why it's so difficult to stop, is there's not that that sort of organized effort. think of al qaeda, say, pre nine over 11. you know, people meet somewhere, they plan an attack. they then deploy. this is through the use of social media, back-channel
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communications, or just the absorption of someone who goes online of what i.s.i.s. is selling. and this we don't know yet whether this was just sort of passive acceptance of what i.s.i.s. was, was saying online and what someone should do to to make their point or show their allegiance to i.s.i.s., or whether there were direct connections with people abroad. what we do know is that there's no evidence that this was an organized i.s.i.s. planned terror attack, even if it's i.s.i.s. inspired, and that that distinction does matter. it matters for a lot of reasons, especially to the people of new orleans, want to ensure that they're safe. >> i do want to ask you, phil, you know, the fbi made it sort of clear that this wasn't a 100% inspired by i.s.i.s.. what does it tell you about the effectiveness of i.s.i.s. messaging, which really has been physically crippled in places like
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syria and iraq? >> persistence over time. >> if you look at insurgency, counterinsurgency, terrorism over the course of years, some of the most persistent are not based on people who have economic problems, people who have ethnic problems. some of the most persistent challenges in terms of counterterrorism and counterinsurgency over the decades are people who are inspired by religion because, of course, they believe that god is speaking to them, saying that there's a divine need for you to go act in this case in bourbon street. so regardless of whether the geography of i.s.i.s. changes, they lose territory in iraq, they lose territory in syria, especially in the age of youtube videos where a preacher can speak to you for years, this persistence of a religious message that says, if you don't act, you're not. you're not living according to the word of god. that's going to be with us for a long time. religious insurgencies and religious terrorism are really hard to beat. >> sarah, i do want to ask you, juliette, about the fbi saying, look, they have the suspect's three phones, two laptops, but
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he was in it in the army. do you think the search of his electronics will be made harder because of his expertise? >> it's hard to know, because this radicalization process, at least what we know from public records, was relatively quick. and this this is to phil's point, is this is so hard to catch and why we are really looking at new orleans and their preparedness as well, because it takes both stopping the person, but also protecting people that what we know now is that the radicalization may have been very, very quick. he's dealing with a lot of issues divorce, money, professional issues. he's older than your average recruit. and what it appears now is that the military, he may have been fine. it was getting out into the civilian world. he's lost. he needs to find meaning. and as phil said, i.s.i.s. fills that vacuum for some of these people. so i'm not sure that the he may have learned tactics and techniques for the terror
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attack, but he's he's relatively an open book now. i mean, he posted a bunch of videos right before the killing. he wants us to know he wanted meaning for this attack. >> phil, i got to ask you about the fbi coming out and saying, look, they cannot find a definitive link between the new orleans attacker and the army. the member of the army who? the green beret who blew up a tesla truck in front of the trump hotel in vegas. there are so many strange, i guess, coincidences. both of them rented vehicles from turo, which is not a very well known site. most people, you know use other rental agencies, both of them in the armed services. what do you what do you make of all this? >> i know the coincidences look significant from the inside. i would say, as someone who watched a lot of investigations, they seem less significant to me. let me give
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you a few reasons why targeting. you're looking at a target out in las vegas that is not easily identifiable as a target that i.s.i.s. might pick. i mean, the individual picked a hotel and a tesla truck that looks to me like a political target. the individual doesn't appear, obviously, to have had communications with the attacker. in new orleans. you don't have posted messages from the individual in los angeles. so on the surface you have some linkages, things like where was the vehicle rented? but when you dig down, if you have no communications, the targets look dissimilar. obviously we have a car bomb versus a vehicle used as a murder weapon. to me, some of those significances fall away. there are a lot of differences here, too. i think as a as a guy who watched a lot of investigations, that's why you did what you do and i do what i do. >> phil mudd and juliette kayyem, thank you both. i hate to have to say happy new year to you, but this has been a really rough beginning to the start of the new year here in the country. thank you. john.
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>> all right. this morning, the outgoing faa chief is insisting that boeing will remain under close federal scrutiny. mike whitacre wrote, our enhanced oversight is here to stay. it's almost the one year anniversary of the mid-air blowout of an alaska airlines door plug. the incident led to multiple allegations of shortcuts and safety protocols at boeing. cnn aviation correspondent pete muntean has been covering this from the beginning. so why this note now? and what's the significance for boeing going forward? >> you know, john, hard to believe it's been almost a year since that dramatic door plug blowout. january 5th, 2024. not only one of the most significant incidents on a u.s. airline in the last decade, but it really kicked off the scrutiny of boeing's quality control, which is still playing out. and now the head of the federal aviation administration insists that will not stop, even though he is days away from leaving his job. faa administrator mike whitaker is leaving his post on inauguration day, only 15 months into a five year term.
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it is essentially the top federal job overseeing boeing. and in a new letter, whitaker says boeing's turnaround is not over yet. remember, the faa did a massive audit of boeing's production line flooded boeing's renton, washington, plant with inspectors. the same factory that that brand new 737 max nine was delivered to alaska airlines without the four critical bolts that held the door plug in place. whitaker says this in this new letter. this is not a one year project. what's needed is a fundamental cultural shift at boeing that's oriented around quality above profits. that will require sustained effort and commitment from boeing and unwavering scrutiny on our part. the big question now is who will lead that federal effort? and whitaker says he has the utmost confidence that the agency's highly skilled and deeply committed team of safety professionals will continue to apply the rigorous oversight required to make sure this happens. after my tenure as administrator ends, though, it will be up to president elect
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donald trump's second administration to nominate someone who could get confirmed by the senate. that job has really been in the spotlight the last few years, and the rumors are flying right now. but no clear successor to take the reins at the faa and the top job in holding boeing accountable. john. >> all right, pete muntean, thanks so much for sharing your reporting on this this morning. as always, great to see you and happy new year. this morning facebook parent company meta is making a major leadership change. new details on what they're doing and why. it really all looks like a move to curry favor with donald trump the whole story with anderson cooper is a five time emmy winner for long form journalism this week. >> kyung lah on k-pop. the whole story with anderson cooper sunday at eight on cnn. >> like a relentless weed. >> moderate to severe ulcerative colitis symptoms can keep coming back. start to
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is here. this doesn't feel like a particularly subtle move, clare. >> yeah, the timing is, you know, you can't ignore the timing here. this is meta's top policy job. chief global affairs officer. it has been held by former uk deputy prime minister nick clegg, who joined the company in 2018. he announced yesterday that he is stepping down and handing the reins to his deputy, joel kaplan, who is one of the company's most prominent republicans. kaplan has been working on policy at meta since 2011, but prior to that he held several key roles, including deputy chief of staff of policy in the george w. bush white house. they also announced that taking over for his current role, vp of global policy is kevin martin, another longtime meta exec who was formerly chairman of the fcc under bush. and we know this, of course, all comes as meta is preparing for a second trump presidency. and as ceo mark zuckerberg has sought to cozy up to trump, we saw zuckerberg visiting trump in mar-a-lago after the election, meta announced it's
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going to be donating $1 million to trump's inaugural fund, and zuckerberg has said that he wants to take an active role in tech policy discussions with the trump white house. and so it may have been a decision that kaplan was better positioned to navigate a republican controlled white house and congress than his predecessor clegg was. >> it may just be good business. like i said, though not very subtle, very little of what facebook has done over the last month or so has been subtle. the job itself, how big of a job is it? >> it is a huge job. it's really one of meta's most important jobs. during clegg's time in the post, he navigated things like concerns that meta's products were harming young people, questions about foreign election interference, regulatory pressures from the u.s. and the eu. it's really key. and during the trump administration, they also are expected to weigh some key policy issues, including, presumably, how to move forward with an antitrust lawsuit against meta and whether and how to regulate artificial intelligence, which we know meta wants to be a world leader in. >> all right. we are watching
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these moves play out very prominently before us. clare duffy, thanks so much for helping us understand, sara. >> all right. are you like me and suspect that your phone is listening to you? well guess what? apple has agreed to pay $95 million to settle a class action lawsuit that claimed siri violated users privacy by recording people's conversations when they accidentally activated the virtual assistant. the suit also claimed those private recordings were sent to third parties. apple will pay up to $20 for each siri enabled device, such as iphones and apple watches. apple, though, denied all wrongdoing when it agreed to that settlement. the sky is actually falling, or it seemed like it in a remote village in kenya. a huge piece of red hot space junk fell out of the sky and crashed near the village. kenya space agency says they have now confirmed this massive metal ring. you see, there is a fragment of a space object weighing in at

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