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way regarding the attack on new year's day. we have obtained reaction from the organization that controls the french quarter. it manages the french quarter. they said the following. the strength of our partnership and the city and the police department allows open communications of residents and business concerns. and the results of any studies or reports completed in this as the fbi has released information pertaining to the assailant that he was here in new orleans a couple times before the attacks. >> we are showing live pictures of there, the president, president biden in new orleans right now. rafael romo. i will be back tomorrow for the state funeral procession that will take place here in washington.
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watching. >> up front next. breaking news. leader of the proud boys is asking a pardon. would trump be president if it was not missteps by merrick garland. hawaii governor, a doctor determined to stop rfk jr. people can die if he becomes the health official. america's closest allies, warning trump about elon musk. how come? let's got go "out front." good evening i'm erin burnett. the leader of the proud boys asking president-elect trump for a pardon today four years to the day after the violent insurrection on capitol hill.
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members of the proud boys stormed the united states capitol in an attempt to overturn the election. right now serving a 22 year sentence for conspiracy. leading a plot to prevent the transfer of power. his attorney is speaking to one person now and one person only to plea. trump. writing, he was portrayed throughout the government's case as a white ring extremists that had a militant organization. henry is nothing more than a proud american that believes in conservative values. just to be clear this is what he said on tape just days before january 6th. >> there are ways you can enact change. get armed and go to the capitol. as crazy as that sounds, yeah, i think that is the way you make the biggest noise. >> getting armed, going to the
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capitol. true conservative values. trump's push is meeting resistance in his own party. trump's allies, lindsey graham raising a red flag about a blanket pardon >> i will leave that to his power to exercise but people who beat up police officers or put them in different category than others. >> of course, his men, you can see them on video, on this day four years ago, marching towards the capitol. one of them in this video using a police officer shield to bust out a window in the capitol. allowing rioters to flood in. now, just today, four years after those moments, trump, today, was certified as the president-elect of the usa. today was obviously a very important day. and it was about what should be the norm and what the american people should be able to take for granted which is one of the most important pillars of our democracy is that there am be a
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peaceful transfer of power. >> of course, the vice president is tasked, right, with certifying the election. she did that. a calm, respectful procedure. a moment that might make us all forget that feeling four years ago that we had when we sat glued to whatever your screen of choice was. maybe you were moved to tears that day watching a terrifying, horribly unamerican moment. just look at pictures from that day that you are looking at here compared to today. trump supporters scaling the walls of the u.s. capitol then, four years later, the capitol quiet, just snow on the steps in a major snowstorm. then, officers with insurrectionists, the capitol hallways when mitt romney turns and runs. today, filled with law enforcement officials. these jarring moments coming as "the washington post," is reporting that president biden
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is saying he made a mistake not picking merrick garland. why, why would he is a this? specifically because of how slow the justice department was under him in prosecuting trump for january 6th and evan perez is reporting tonight that within the justice department, a source is telling him that the justice department quote wasted time. other former justice officials telling evan that the charges could have been brought a whole year earlier. now, that is a wow moment. that is something that could of changed where trump standing tonight. what happened today and in fact, the entire arc of american history. we go out to evan, i have to talk about your breaking reporting here, exclusively. first the breaking news on a possible pardon tonight. what more are you learning about this request by former proud boy's leader for a full pardon from trump? >> reporter: erin, the in-coming president is not saying exactly how he is going
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forward with the pardons. enrakeo tarreo would get a lot of push back from people like lindsey graham, in the president's circle who support law enforcement. remember, he had one of the longest sentences, a 22 years. he is one of over 1500 people charged with crimes related to january 6th. you will know that 600 of those were charged with assaulting police officers and other crimes related to the violence that day. of course, as you know, the proud boys were at the center of a lot of the extreme violence. we saw that day, just that evening. you know, law enforcement trying to regain control of the capitol so that you can certify the vote. and the proud boys were the ones that were leading that resistance. so, certainly if donald trump decides to give
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him a pardon it would certainly send a strong message about what else he plans to do with the rest of these people charged that day. >> it would. and the irony that his attorney said earlier that everything he did was on the direction of trump, right? blamed trump. now he is appealing to him with a different message. so, you know, you are here on january 6th, evan, trump's election wins certified by vice president kamala harris. incredible moment to think about for a moment. you have new reporting tonight on if we would be here in this context if attorney general merrick garland charged trump earlier. what are you hearing from your sources inside of the doj? >> reporter: one of the things you are hearing right now is people are taking stock of what could have been. one of the things that did happen in the first year of the investigation in 2021, erin, we had, you know, information about a possible meeting between donald trump and members of the proud boys. that was one of the
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things that the justice department with these prosecutors really boar in on. they spent time looking into that willard room, that hotel room as well as the financial ties with some of the rioters that did come to the capitol. in the end, as you know, that one year ended up really finding no district ties to trump. one of the things that you hear from people who are involved in the investigation, you talked to about a dozen people. one of the things that they said was we could of brought the case earlier. i will read you one part of what we said. they wasted time, they were not strategic and in the end, they helped trump with the primary and dividing the country. and, i guess, you know, certainly in the end of this, erin, a lot of regrets there, they do believe they had to go down all of these investigative leads before bringing these charges. >> all right, evan, please stay
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had encrypted messages, he sent a message to his proud boys at 2:39 p.m., make no mistake, we did this. that is this person that you would think trump would have an interest in saying this is the guy that did it, not me. preplanned it. nothing that i said, they were going to do it no matter what. >> and tarrio's attorney said everything that he did was at the direction in every way, shape and form of donald trump. now, they are singing a different tune. is there any line that trump can cross with republicans including senator graham as you see it now as it comes to these pardons? >> reporter: there is interesting with graham saying it. he said the statement with the president can do what he wants, right? every one of these people that are about to say the president can do what they want had issues with the hunter biden pardon. let's be clear about that. i don't know if there will be a line yet. let's say the president does
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pardon enrique tarrio, maybe lindsey graham puts out a stiffly worded statement. they will not do anything about that. it will be news for a couple of days. i expect maybe commuting the sentence. i expect trump is going to go far on this stuff. and, you know, not going to be great for justice. by the way the justice department absolutely should have started this investigation. they basically started the investigation after we on the committee began presenting our evidence and we did not have near the tools that they had. it is really sad, disappointing and upsetting. >> to that reporting that evans reporting, it is, it is stunning. you heard what he was saying. they could have gone earlier, could of, should of, there are people in the justice department saying they wasted time. >> his reporting is incredible. talking about prosecutors themselves. people inside of the justice department. look, we spent the last year. we just lost an entire year because we are investigating if there is a tie between trump and the proud
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boys and the violence at the capitol. remarkable. why start there to build a case against trump. why would you not just start where they ended. the false elector's scheme. mike pence, out in the open. it is may 2022, the justice department for the first time even subpoenas the national archives to get the white house documents from that period of time. that is well over a year since january 6th. so, just shows you how slow they were to finally get to the case that they could indict. >> what it all comes down to is, the real question, as we look at the images from four years ago and images of tonight and vice president kamala harris certifying the victory of her rival, donald trump to be the president-elect. it is an incredible moment. evan, if trump had been charged sooner, do you think that we would be here? charged sooner, gets all sorts of things. gets you a verdict, sentencing, it opens the possibility for a different
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world, do you think we would be here seeing trump's election victory certified if the justice department moved sooner? >> it is possible but the other thing that we have to bear in mind is the supreme court. the supreme court really did eat up about seven months of the calendar of the four years, right? and one of the things they did do and when they granted there brood immunity to the president they said, also, that you have to come back to us and we will have to relitigate if you really can go forward with these charges. so, we will never know. certainly part of the problem was just the rapidly expiring calendar and the fact that, you know, on this day back four years ago donald trump was quickly the republicans decided not so much anymore. >> so, congressman, to this other reporting here, "the washington post," reporting tonight, and this fits with what evan maybe in response to
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evan's reporting. president biden private low regrets naming garland. specifically because of how slowly the doj moved. i mean it is interesting that something like that is leaking to "the washington post," at this moment, congress plan. but significant of biden saying that? >> reporter: yeah, it is remarkable. and i think there is a lot of frustration. i want to be clear. i think the frustration, at least on my end and probably on the president's end has nothing to do with we really wanted retribution and that did not happen fast enough. it is about the department of justice had jack smith on this case. he would of had information that the committee was unable to get. they had more tools and able to pick up where we left off. deeper stuff. it is about the american people deserving to know who they are electing as president and deserving to know what happened january 6th. we pretend in politics like sunlight is awesome. we want all information out in the
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public. you know, this case, that would have been good for people, maybe they still would of elected trump i don't know but deserve to know all that the justice department knew. >> that we don't know. you know that they did not have all of that information did not have it at crucial points as you heard that justice department official telling evan. they believe their inaction and slowness helped them in the primary, divide the primary and continue that path. there are people, ryan, who will be held to account. one of them is rudy giuliani. a judge holding him in contempt for turning items over to the workers and he owes them. trump can not bail him out. he will pay the piper, trump's president, talk about a path in the woods, two pants in the woods. >> i think he is in deep
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trouble. looks like there is no way out from this proceeding. he will lose most of his assets and might of lost his home in florida because of the contempt in the court. we will see what happens but that is a good likelihood and faces exposure in georgia if the case is resurrected and indicted in arizona for carrying out the false elector's scheme. he has been left in a lurch in ways trump as president can not reach in and try to pry it loose. >> congressman, trump referred to january 6th as a day of love. today, one of your former colleagues, marjorie tailor greene also referred to it as a day of love. a day, well, you were there. what do you think when you hear that version now and have to deal with the real possibility that version bottoms as much the truth as
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the truth itself? >> reporter: well, let's be clear, today was a peaceful day. had kamala harris won, who knows, right? we don't know. it would be hard to see that. look, they keep talking about this day of love stuff. i almost think they are reveling in being able to just lie about it. i mean, they find it funny. and frankly a lot of the people that are saying it was a day of love they know it was not. they know it was a trump-inspired insurrection. they love being able to stand there and stick it to the libs, right? that is what they say. saying it is a day of love. history will be accurate on what happened on january 6th. once he is out of office in four years he will be less popular, people will be tired of him and january 6th will be on the forefront again in terms of what he did and what he did to democracy. the record will be the only official record and it will be reflected well in the history
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books. >> congress plan, thank you very much. ryan, evan, thank you very much. next, the governor of hawaii happens to be a doctor, happens to number washington tonight. maybe he wanted to see the snow. warning senators about why rfk jr. if he is health and human services people will dry. trudeau goes down. trump took credit for this. if and when greenland becomes part of our nation as his son prepares for a visit to the country. breaking nows, president biden about to speak. as we are learning more about the smart glasses used by the killer to scope out and videotape the scene in at vance advance
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. tonight, donald trump speaking out in a new radio interview. >> in my first term, people were fighting me. all of the way. they were just fighting me. in this term it is so different. i think, i don't want to say people have given up that is not nice but they recognize that we really do have that mandate. >> some people, though, are still fighting, including the democratic governor of hawaii. he is in washington making the fight against rfk jr. and also a er physician. let me just start here with, you have been blunt about your feelings about
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trump. you said using your words narcistic personality disorder and that he does not care about human beings. you said when what you believe. he won, he is talking about having a mandate and people not fighting him any more. what is your reaction to that? >> reporter: my reaction is this. the president has been re-elected and he has to lead a country in a way that will take care of our people and protect people who are vulnerable. some of his nominees are not the right choices. today i am here to talk about rfk jr. the challenge there is, this gentleman has no experience as a public health official what so ever. no training, not a health care provider and we crossed paths in the past over a tragedy that occurred in samoa near my state of hawaii. any president, president trump or biden has to look out for the people. if you put directors in, the secretary of health and human services is a critical position. it results in our people getting harmed
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then you have not done the right thing by the people. rfk jr. has really given me pause about what he might do. he could damage the health of our nation terribly if he behaves like he did in in s is amoa. a lot of people opted not to get vaccinated. people died -- samoa. >> a lot of people opted not to get vaccinated and people died. you are an er doctor, part of a group that tried to mass vaccinate, i believe 37,000 people, correct me if i am wrong. what did you see in that moment? >> reporter: what i saw was, children who died from the measles. it was beyond tragic. what happened in samoa two children died about a year before from human error. two nurses made a mistake with reagents around the vaccine.
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when rfk jr. got to samoa he went through the children's defense fund, nonprofit he founded and pushes, he used misinformation to scare all of the people of samoa away from getting vaccinated. he did not share what happened. torpedoes the vaccination program. met with the prime minister and the minister of health. i met with the same people. he scared them away from vaccinations, vaccinations dropped for measles, mumps, robella down to 31% in their country. if you get lower than 90 or 95% you get huge outbreaks. so, suddenly, because of the misinformation he was sharing, no one was vaccinated. then, a huge explosion of measles, over 5,000 cases we can account for. 83 people died. most of them children. when i spoke to the minister of health she asked if she can bring a mission medical team. we agreed and brought 70 people, health care providers myself included, we worked with
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their health department and vaccinated the 37,000 people and measles stopped. we would go village to village. they would tie a red sash or a ribbon on a tree or a post saying they wanted to be vaccinated. like you see in the old testament, actually, people want the angel of death to passover. he did not passover. took the life of an infant girl. she was still warm, you can see the terrible rash on her. worse cases i ever seen and i have been a health care provider for decades now with the national health service and so on. we saw she just passed away. her face and body were still warm. she was not breathing, i put my stethoscope to her heart, her lungs. the family immediately went into mourning. we quickly held a ceremony and vaccinated their entire family, the siblings, the community, and we moved on. it happened over and over and over again. and if rfk jr. were
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to be confirmed and i humbly ask the republicans and democrats not to confirm him. if that happens and he spreads doubt about vaccinations, communities across the country will see the vaccination rates dip to a dangerous spot and see outbreaks, measles will kill kids. you will see polio surge once again. these are not the things that president-elect trump should want, not wanting anyone in the senate should want. not partisan. i am just a physician in this case. choose a conservative republican, fine, that has public health experience. that is the person that should run hhs. my job as the only physician governor to share that perspective. >> your story is deeply personal and i don't think anyone listening to it can not be moved whrvment it comes to rfk obviously . >> when it comes to rfk he pushed forward other ideas some of which, you know governor,
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found ground with democrats and republicans, the food system and people's frustration with big pharma and talking about fluoride and he wants to remove it from drinking water. there is a new study, nine year government study finding that children that were exposed to fluoride levels have lower iqs. none of these things are definitive. i just put it out there to raise the question if you think he has some good ideas. if he is confirmed there would be some good that comes out of it or do you think, no. >> millions of people will be vulnerable based on what his extreme health positions are. the main positions he would get to have influence over are the things i am talking about. vaccination rates. i fought for years against pesticide use. that is the kind of political person i have been. but he will not get anywhere near any of those issues, mr. trump will have nothing to do with that.
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if is interesting because very ironically, this is a positive, he has been pro choice. i am surprised that many of the conservatives in the senate are even remotely considering rfk jr. i am talking about the core public health needs. if he defunded national institute of health for up to eight years, no health research. talking about stopping research on infectious disease says completely. the virus being created to attack everyone but jews and i think one other group. some of these things are so outland issue they do not describe thinking from a health professional. you can throw a dart at a board and sometimes get a good idea but our children are vulnerable. you saw what he was saying as a celebrity. he was in samoa he
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killed people what about when he control of a trillion dollar agency and stop doing research on diseases, disease states, medications, the medications we need to help save people, vaccinations that kept us from seeing tens of millions die from covid. it would be a tragedy. so, again, i just say this as a physician that saw the carnage that he caused. i would ask people to pause and think carefully about what they will expose their constituents to. a lot of these out there. we will have a very extraordinary ride with trump in the second term. i wish everyone in service well. they have to make the decisions that will look out for people who are vulnerable and this decision, putting rfk in control of our health system is a very dangerous one. >> all right, governor green, thank you for sharing your story. thank you. next, justin trudeau is
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. new tonight, trump taking credit for taking down justin trudeau. announcing he was going to step down five weeks after he raced to mar-a-lago unannounced to talk to president-elect out of punishing tariffs. trump talked about slapping on canadian goods. trump today was quick to take credit for trudeau's downfall and resignation. once
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again, pushing for canada to join the united states posting online in part quote many people in canada love being the 51st state. they can no longer suffer what canada needs to stay afloat. if canada emerges with the u.s. there would be no tariffs. we go out to ottawa with more. >> it is is always a pleasure to sit down with president trump. >> even before his first term trump dismissed trudeau as a pretty boy. >> he is two faced. >> reporter: the relationship was combative. trudeau, maga branding, a progressive. still, they muttelled through trump's first term even sealing a trade deal. since his re-election trump trolled him calling him governor. and canada the 51st state when he announced he is stepping down >> it is clear to me if i am
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having to fight internal battles, i can not be the best option in that election. >> president-elect trump was less than generous, posting on truth social, the united states can no longer suffer the massive trade deficits and subsidies that canada needs to stay afloat. justin trudeau knew this and resigned. >> i ama fighter. every bone told me to fight >> somber as he spoke. trudeau admitted he was no longer wanted in the ring by his own party. >> i intend to resign as party leader., as prime minister. >> reporter: his undoing with canadians sounds strikingly similar to joe biden's fate. inflation, affording housing, increase in illegal immigration put a strain on public services. it has all soured
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voters on his nine year government. leader opened up more than a 20% marg uninpolls in part by doing its own trolling online. most recently calling trudeau and his government wakko >> what happens if they run a governmemaga shout outs. >> can we get him in our country? trudeau's right hand and finance minister that was the tipping point. she resigned a few weeks ago and in a letter called trudeau's recent tax cuts political gimmicks. lecturing him that canada needed a stronger fiscal position to battle trump's america first foreign policy. even a quick trip to mar-a-lago in november did not come off as the strongest move as president-elect trump threatened 25% tariffs on canadian imports, chirping, governor trudeau in his posts. >> erin you know that chirping, it cut both ways. some ways
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here in canada among voters and politicians. you sphroa talked about it. today, i got a counteroffer for trump. maybe we will take alaska, minnesota, why not? anyone who takes over from justin trudeau, how they deal with trump will factor in their political fate. >> absolutely. paula, thank you very much. mentioning the primere talking about the response -- primer talking about the response. when trump said canada loves to be the 51 first state, he put "love" in all caps, how do you respond to that. certain level it was a joke and now here we are, trudeau is gone and finance
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minister is gone. government gone into chaos. and all on the back of these things trump said. so, when trump says this today about the 51st state how do you respond? >> reporter: i can appreciate his sense of humor. i went back about buying alaska. but, something is just not realistic. we are a sovereign country. we are proud. canadians like americans are proud. what i want to do is make sure we build a fortress and camp making sure we are the strongest and the richest we have a tremendous amount to offer the united states over the years. no matter if it is our energy or a critical minerals. that is what we want to do. stronger together. people are realizing that in the u.s. with the ads we are running. >> how worried are you,
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premier, regardless, what happened here is regardless of how much trump is joking or not joking it is not joking in the sense that he will get what he wants. get what he wants as president and he will get canada to do whatever he wants it to do because he is dangling these tariffs over your head. >> reporter: he had two requests, tighten up the border, which i agree 100% which we are doing, and 2% nato commitment which i agree with that as well. canada does $1.3 trillion trade to trade with the u.s. largest trading partner. we ship down 4.3 million barrels of oil every single day, we send electricity down to the u.s., critical minerals, these are all areas in different sectors that americans need. and why disrupt that? we are two great countries, strongest allies in the world. friends, so, we need to get through this and start talking about trade.
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>> so, the president-elect when you talk about calling canada the 51st state he has been talking about greenland, the united states taking it over, territory of denmark. again he was talking greenland today. i don't know if you had a chance to see this premier. i am hearing the people of greenland are maga. my son will travel there to visit the sites. if is an incredible place and people will benefit if and when it becomes part of our nation, make greenland great again. let's throw a map up here. greenland is next to canada. big giant white thing currently as i said a territory of denmark. so, i mean, do you really just happening it is all a joke? >> god bless greenland. canada
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is no greenland. we are a strong nation with a massive trade with the u.s. 9 million americans wake up every morning erin to produce for ontario. our trade is split down the middle. no matter if it is a critical minerals that china cut the u.s. off of, we have the critical minerals, no matter if it is nickel. let's start onshoring american jobs and canadian jobs. the problem is not canada. so many congress people and senators and never once said canada is the problem. i tell you who the problem is, china is, shipping in cheap parts, going through mexico, they are slapping a made in mexico sticker and shipping it through canada. costing american and canadian jobs that is unacceptable and we need a bilateral deal with the u.s. >> appreciate your time, thank you very much, sir. >> reporter: thank you very
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. tonight, a close u.s. alley asking trump to rethink his friendship with musk. the world's richest man goes after the u.k. prime minister. that is according to bloomberg. tonight, he and french president macron are hitting back. robertson is out front. >> reporter: elon musk is gunning for world leaders. in his cross hairs, starmer,
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alleging failings in a child abuse scandal when he was the u.k. chief prosecutor more than a decade ago. if america should liberate the people of britain from their government. starmer fighting back. >> we have seen this playbook many times. intimidation and threats of violence. >> reporter: musk's inaccurate and sensational view is not new. last summer cramming racist were tipping the u.k. into civil war. but, this and his international meddling is reaching new levels. since bottoming president-elect donald trump's advisory musk's words have more muscle. the power pair teamed up on calls with world leaders. notably with vladimir zelenskyy one day after the u.s.
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presidential elections. but it is musk's right wing push picking up on what former trump strategist and advisory steve bannon began eight years ago. championing europe's far right disrupters that has europe's leaders worried. >> translator: 10 years ago if we were told the owner of the largest social media networks would support a international movement and directly intervene in elections including germany. >> reporter: musk supporting the hard right afd. alternative for germany party. accused of resurrecting nazi rhetoric. ahead of elections there next month. but, musk is going further right than bannon. a tamping a trump ally saying he does not have what it takes to lead his upstart reform u.k.
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party. the british populous that pushed brexit. supporter who might finance his party. >> the fact that he supports and supports reform does not mean i have to agree with everything said on x. why the falling out? robinson, a jailed antimuslim who fanned the flames of racist riots last summer. musk praises him. farage doesn't. the question in europe now, how far right will musk go? >> reporter: concern in the u.k. has gotten to such a level that the leader of the third largest party suggests the government should call in the u.s. ambassador to pass a message to the white house saying anyone in government there should be very careful about speaking about british government affairs. erin? >> nick, thank you very much. a
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new orleans. he is speaking at a remembrance for victims. the killer wore smart glasses made by meta. so what are these glasses and how do they work? ryan young is out front. >> those videos show jabbar during that trip in october with his meta glasses. >> reporter: the fbi releasing this video recorded from a pair of meta smart glasses worn by the plan who carried out the attack on new year's day. the investigators are reeling he made two visits to the city in the months prior to the holiday attack. >> during that time jabbar using meta glasses recorded a video as he road through the french quarter on a bicycle. >> video slowing him demonstrating the glasses in front of a mirror revealing his face >> it is part of the surveillance. he was involved in the planning stage, the glasses allow him to take everything in, absorb all of the data, review it later when
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he is alone. >> allows you anonymity. that is what he was looking for. data collection and anonymity. >> the next generation of meta smart glasses. [ applause ] >> these are the ray ban meta glasses. cameras built in and speakers and an a.i. assistant. you can tell it do do things like meta, take a video. once it is recording there is a white light that flashes here. when i look around you will not know i am recording video. this is what the investigators believe the suspect did. >> the camera glasses can take photos and record up to three minutes of video, also be live streamed to facebook or instagram. although the authorities say while the attacker was found wearing the glasses on the day of the attack they were turned off. a metaspokesperson declined to comment. other information coming out from a 2019 confidential security report
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carried out by a consulting firm and obtained by cnn. >> the point of the report was really to highlight issues throughout the french quarter, security issues, safety issues. >> reporter: the report saying that political clashes in the city may of hindered efforts to install the permanent barriers in the french quarter that were recommended to improve security. >> it was quite dplairing to see how many different groups have been fighting for the dollars and the policing dollars to protect this 1.1 square mile piece of land. >> reporter: erin, the city of new orleans asked federal officials for extensive support to protect mardi gras and the super bowl is scheduled to play there on february 9th. >> yes. they say there is an unprecedented presence. ryan, thank you very much. thanks so much to all of you for joining us on this monday
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