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including vernon jordan was a close friend of bill clinton's who prospered wildly with corporate contracts and board memberships after bill clinton became president. >> this is normal when a president takes over companies who think they're in the bullseye of regulatory regulation suddenly find that presidents friends, this is not a yes, i agree, except the difference here is that facebook has such a massive influence over how people in this country receive information. >> i mean, that is just that is different than political. politically influential people cozying up to corporate leadership where they're trying to make money. this is a real, tangible impact on how people in this country receive news and get information. and that, to me, is where the real i mean, the other issue is republicans too, but to me is where this is really we welcome democrats to the conversation, are they? >> it also wasn't too long ago that a certain dana white tried to broker an actual fight between mark zuckerberg and elon musk, and i have a great sound bite that is too long to play. >> now, i forgot about. you're totally right. you're totally right. all right, we're hitting 7:00. but i do want to leave you with just a couple seconds
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of my favorite video today, which is the pandas enjoying the snow in washington, dc. they are having the most fun of any of us. thanks to all of you for being with us this morning. i'm kasie hunt. don't go anywhere. cnn news central starts right now. >> just two weeks before he heads back to the white house and donald trump is facing a new legal fight. his legal team versus special counsel jack smith. once again. donald trump jr.. >> s mission to greenland today. could it be just a coincidence, as his father and maybe more importantly, elon musk, indicate that greenland should be annexed to the united states? plus, securing the french quarter following the deadly new year's attack with the super bowl and mardi gras right around the corner. >> new plans for heightened
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security in new orleans. i'm sara sidner with kate bolduan and john berman. this is cnn news central. >> breaking overnight, the new legal fight that donald trump is taking on just days before he takes office. >> the president elect is now trying to stop special counsel jack smith from publicly releasing his final report on his investigations into the president elect and the two federal cases that were brought and dismissed. why is donald trump fighting this now? his lawyers read a draft of that report and argue in a new court filing that it contains, quote, baseless attacks, which they call an obvious effort to interfere with upcoming upcoming confirmation hearings. so this only adds to the mounting intrigue, of course, around this report and its potentially imminent release. let's get over to katelyn polantz. she's got much more of this for us. caitlin, walk
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us through this. what? what do we know about the report and when can we see this? >> yeah, kate, we've seen reports like this before from special counsel's offices, but not a fight like this. >> on whether it could be released from the justice department. so what we can gather from court filings so far is that in these two cases against donald trump, the attorney general is going to be reviewing a two volume report, one very likely about the classified documents case. that was before judge aileen cannon in florida. and then another volume about the january 6th case against donald trump. what is happening in those volumes? we haven't seen them, but trump's lawyers and others have been able to review them behind closed doors is that they are the summations of these cases, these summations of the. investigations, what the special counsel's office says is that they are not going to be handing their finalization finalized report over to the
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attorney general until at least 1 p.m. today. and if the public sees it, it won't be out until at least the morning of friday. but ultimately, it's up to the attorney general and the attorney general hasn't decided yet if that report is going to be public. now, trump's lawyers did write to the attorney general on january 6th yesterday, saying that he's got to get rid of smith and not release this report. he said that part of this is about presidential immunity that donald trump should face. no criminal process, including disclosures about a prosecution around him while he is the president elect. we'll see if that argument holds in court with judge cannon two, which is where trump's lawyers are now arguing to her. stop this. don't let them release it to the public. >> let's add another layer to this, caitlin, because there are two, two men associated with donald trump also named in this. also with, let's say, a
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very vested interest in it. what do we know? >> yeah, kate, that's where this is complicated. a little bit more than in other special counsel's cases, because you have these two cases, criminal cases in federal court against donald trump that are dismissed. but there's an ongoing case, part of that classified documents case, the obstruction portion of it against his two co-defendants in florida, walt nauta and carlos de oliveira, two men who worked for trump personally. and so, because there are appeals over their case and they could continue to face those court proceedings, even the prosecution, the lawyers for trump and their lawyers are saying you can't make statements about them publicly in a report. here's a quote from the filing. the final report is meant to serve as a government verdict against the defendants. the report revealed a one sided narrative. there remains the threat of future criminal proceedings as to nada and de oliveira, those two
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co-defendants and those proceedings will be irreversibly and irredeemably, irredeemably prejudiced. that's what the position is from the defense side, arguing to the attorney general. don't release it. justice department do not put things out about these guys. >> see what happens. great to see you, caitlin. thank you so much for laying it all out for us. really appreciate it, sarah. >> all right. new this morning. at least five people have died. and that number is expected to rise as the winter storm that brought heavy snow and ice moves out. and brutal, dangerously cold temperatures move in. the storm caused chaos on the roads, shutting down highways and leaving drivers stranded, including at least 1700 drivers in missouri alone. the dc area, as we showed you yesterday, saw more than five inches of snow. its snowiest day in two years. but that's nothing compared to the record snowfall in kansas. the city of chapman saw more than 20in of snow. the storm's top. total
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crews across several states now racing to clear roads and restore power before the frigid temperatures set in, locking in snow and ice and creating dangerous conditions for people who don't have access to heat. cnn's derek van dam is joining me now with the very latest on the forecast. wow. it's going to get nasty again. >> yeah, the arctic invasion has already begun. in reality, sarah, we're talking about over the next week, 77% of americans will feel temperatures below the freezing mark. that is incredible. that snow that fell yesterday. it's going nowhere anytime soon. this is what it feels like this morning in kansas city. that's a big goose egg there. zero degrees. that's the wind chill. single digits in the nation's capital, where we saw over five inches of snow yesterday from the snowstorm. in fact, there was a swath of snow that extended over a thousand miles with over
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six inches from this latest snowstorm in kansas city all the way to the delmarva peninsula, including the nation's capital. this will indeed lock in the cold air, which you can see with the high temperatures and that weight of the snow and the ice from the previous storm has also caused the power outages that still remain. and guess what? the arctic air is going to stick around. as i mentioned, we're talking 250 million people experiencing the mercury dropping below the freezing mark. and this is also going to set the stage for another potentially impactful snow and ice storm. pay attention. this is for thursday into friday, dallas and into southern oklahoma, into the southeast by friday afternoon, and potentially the east coast. it's the arctic air that's in place, that's setting the stage for the potential winter mix. we already have winter storm watches in place for parts of texas and the southern plains starting tomorrow. >> i lived in dallas and you know, it gets hot as hades in the summer, and then you'll get this like random ice storm and
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nobody knows how to drive in it, including myself. so it's like i walk to work. the last time i lived there. it's. >> and that's why no one, no one's equipped. that's right. no one's equipped to actually handle that type of conditions on the roadway. same in the south here and around atlanta. we do not want to see snow and ice from this storm, but very likely somewhere else we don't want to see is what's happening with the santa ana winds. >> those whip up in california as well. what's happening there? >> yeah, this is another big weather story we're monitoring today. and they're tied together. actually, it's this low pressure system that is going to fuel this week's snowstorm. but in the meantime, the more immediate threat is in southern california, where it's driving the winds offshore. the weather service here calling this a particularly dangerous situation. and this could be the most destructive wind event since 2011. in southern california, particularly ventura and los angeles counties, wind gusts get this. sarah could top 100mph in the
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higher elevations, up to 80mph in the valleys below, and that is going to create critical fire danger threat through tonight and into tomorrow. >> that is hurricane force winds. you have taught us that throughout the years. derek van dam, thank you so much. appreciate it john. >> all right. just in a powerful earthquake kills at least 95 people. the death toll is rising. the aftershocks which are still hitting are toppling houses. make greenland great again. >> the president elect makes a new play to annex greenland for real. >> and today, his son, donald trump jr. makes an expedition to the island. a new report finds that the drinking water for millions of americans may be contaminated by toxic chemicals. why? they say your prescription medicine could be the cause. >> kobe believed in himself at the youngest possible age. >> it's one of the most remarkable stories in sports
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here at the carter center in the circle of flags. there is going to be a departure ceremony. then in the noon hour, what we will see is the late president and his family arrive at the dobbins air reserve base. it is from there that they will travel to joint base andrews, and from there go to the u.s. navy memorial. we know, of course, that president carter served in the united states navy. and then after that, john, what is going to happen is really symbolic. but we will see. is the horse drawn casket take the very same route that president carter walked during his inauguration several decades ago, from the navy memorial to the united states capitol. and it was remarkable when president carter took that walk because he wanted to be out and among the people during such a fractious time in our nation. and so he takes that very same walk again today. and then, of
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course, people from across the country will have the opportunity to say their goodbyes in the nation's capital as he lies in state. so the tributes will kick off in just a little bit. but a whole host of events as people continue to remember the nation's 39th president, john, when he got out and walked in 1977 at the inauguration, he was really the first to do that. >> and now it's become something of a tradition. eva mckend, thank you so much. we'll check back in with you in a bit. >> kate, coming up for us, if you are looking to buy a home this year, it's good news, bad news situation, it seems for you which cities are about. you are about to save, where you're about to save, and where it will cost you more. and the department of homeland security raising the security level around mardi gras. now to one of its highest levels. what this means after the deadly new year's day, new year's day attack. >> as the new year starts,
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list, including hartford, connecticut. providence, rhode island, and philadelphia. in the midwest, kansas city, saint louis. the only city out west to make this list salt lake city. now, zillow takes into account a number of factors here, including home prices, how fast homes are selling, how fast they're being built, and also job growth, which is an important indicator of future demand. now, as i mentioned, buffalo leads this list for the second year in a row. i know that's going to be music to the ears of buffalo bills superfan harry enten. and as far as why this is happening, it's because inventory is really low relative to before covid. also, they're adding a lot of jobs relative to how many homes are being built. prices were up by 6% last year. zillow expects another 3% increase this year. hartford is supposed to have an even bigger increase in home prices. zillow forecasting a 4% increase for hartford, connecticut. connecticut that's going to add another $15,000 to the typical
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home. now, as always, when we talk about housing, this really cuts both ways, right? because if you already own your home and you don't need to move, the fact that home prices have gone up is good news, right? it's adding to your net worth. it's giving you some added financial flexibility. but kate, as we know, the american dream of home ownership, it just feels like it's out of reach for far too many people right now. >> so is there good news in this report for anyone? >> there is good news because some cities are seeing home prices basically flatline or even go down a bit. if you look at this list, we're seeing smaller increases of less than 1% in pittsburgh, minneapolis, denver, portland. and then in some cities, including san jose, san francisco and new orleans and austin. home prices, according to zillow, are expected to dip a bit. so look, if you live in those areas or you're willing to move to to those areas, that could be an option. if you're looking to get a little bit of an advantage. but kate, we know a lot of people. they have to live where they work. they
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might not have that flexibility. >> oh, i was thinking hartford, connecticut. now i'm just going to go to austin. right. >> exactly. or they have family that they don't want to move away from. the other thing here that we have to pay really close attention to is mortgage rates, because they continue to creep higher and higher, nearly 7%. and that is just adding to this affordability problem. >> it's good to see you, matt. thanks for bringing it to us. thank you. >> kate. >> sarah. all right. thank you guys. curious timing. weeks after donald trump once again said the u.s. should own greenland. his son, don jr., plans a visit to the arctic country as a tourist. scientists find a new source of forever chemicals that are contaminating our drinking water. we'll explain. and this isn't news, but we don't care because it's delightful. no one celebrates a snowy day in d.c. like these chubby bears. >> this cnn business update is brought to you by invesco qxk.
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office, and he has laid out such an ambitious domestic agenda. there is so much going on abroad. and yet he continues to push this idea that the u.s. should acquire greenland. yesterday, actually posting on truth social, a video supposedly showing a man from greenland putting on a make america great again hat and also writing, quote, the people will benefit tremendously if and when it becomes part of our nation. we will protect it and cherish it. he also continued to push this idea that canada could become the 51st state. to this idea, obviously, he has been needling canadian prime minister justin trudeau with this proposal for weeks now. and now that trudeau is stepping aside as prime minister, he used it as an occasion to bring this up again, claiming that if it goes through, canada won't have any tariffs. taxes will go down in the u.s., will protect it from russia and china. >> sarah, that is a lot of promises there, steve. trump also laying the groundwork here to blame president biden for
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any potential shortcomings in his administration. what's he saying? >> well, coming out of the election, there was actually some moments of of cordial ness between trump and biden, and the transition seemed to be going smoothly. but in the past 48 hours, we have seen donald trump increasingly lash out against biden for some of his recent moves, posting on truth, social criticism of the ongoing questions around jack smith's work as special counsel. also, some of the moves by biden to block offshore drilling off the coast of in the pacific and the atlantic, and then saying this yesterday during a radio appearance on hugh hewitt show. >> they'll do everything they can to make it as difficult as possible. you know, they talk about a transition. they're always saying, oh, no, we want to have a smooth transition from party to party from, you know, of government. well, they're making it
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really difficult. they're throwing everything they can in the way. >> now, i should point out that donald trump's incoming chief of staff, siouxsie wiles, actually gave an interview where she said that she has had a positive relationship and working well with the her predecessor coming in. but clearly in this final couple of weeks here, some animosity brewing between trump and biden over the transition. >> okay. steve contorno thank you so much from a windy west palm beach. appreciate it john. >> with us now is the democratic congressman from south carolina, james clyburn. congressman, thank you so much for being with us. donald trump continues to say essentially that he wants to annex greenland. i know that's not part of your district, at least not yet. but what does this look like to you? >> well, thank you very much. it feels like it today but, um, it is just a distraction. you know, donald trump that came up
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with that in his last. uh, term. and i thought then it was more of a distraction than anything else. and i think that's what's going on here. again. you got to watch this man's actions. uh, and listen to him as well. and when he is attempting to do things on the domestic front, he might try to keep your attention as far away from the country as he possibly can. and i don't know if he can get any further away than greenland. so we'll have to see. >> so, congressman, the incoming president is discussing how he wants to get his legislative agenda through. and at least right now he is suggesting one giant bill that would get through the house and the senate that would deal with issues of the border and tax cuts and tariffs, all kinds of things. i don't think anyone
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on earth right now has as much experience as you do in getting bills through congress. how successful do you think this one giant bill idea could be? >> well, it seems to me it will be a very, very difficult road to hoe. he is talking about doing all of that under reconciliation. and i think the parliamentarian, uh, in the senate, uh, should take a hard look at whether or not they're trying to camouflage your program stuff. uh, under budget reconciliation. that, to me, is what the danger here is. and whether or not parliamentary, uh, that can be done. uh, i don't know. uh, but i do believe it will be a very dangerous thing to do to load up a reconciliation bill, which is supposed to focus on budget matters with all kind of policy. policy considerations
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which may or may not go over well with the majority of the american people. so i think that, um, i don't blame him for trying. uh, but i will blame us if we do not step up and stop this from happening. >> so one of the things that's been floated out there is that donald trump seems to want to get away. sorry, get rid of completely the debt ceiling. the idea that there is this debt limit that needs to be raised every so often to just get rid of it. how would you feel about that? would be that that be something you could support? >> well, i'm smiling now because i've been advocating that now for 20 years and maybe even more. i do believe that we only country and least developed country on earth. uh, that is still dealing with this debt ceiling business. we should do away with it altogether. and that may be, uh, the only area that i really agree with donald trump on. i do believe we should get rid of
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it. >> interesting. the trump clyburn effort to get rid of the debt ceiling altogether. congressman, you heard i don't know if you heard our report before, but donald trump is saying that president biden is trying to sabotage the transition, as it were. and you'll remember, of course, you know, four years ago, donald trump didn't even participate in a transition of power, really, from the trump administration to the biden administration. so how do you feel about that charge? yes. >> well, once again, donald trump is transferring to others that which he is often guilty of. uh, it's not in even in joe biden's personality at all, uh, to do anything like that, joe biden believes in this country. he believes in the american people. and he is going to do everything he possibly can. and he has done that to make sure that the
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american people get treated in the way this country looks for them to be treated. so he is not going to sabotage anything. is he disappointed over the results? yes. so am i. i will not do anything. and i think he saw yesterday in this administration, you saw the vice president presiding over her own defeat with elegance and with the kind of approach that makes the american people proud. she's not going to do anything. joe biden is not going to do anything to sabotage. and he's just making that up. uh, that is what he sees in himself and transfers to others. >> congressman jim clyburn from south carolina, thanks so much for being with us this morning. appreciate your time, sir. >> kate, there's a new warning now out about forever chemicals in our water. scientists saying those
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dangerous chemicals may be contaminating the drinking water of 23 million americans. and they're also pinpointing what they've what they've suspected is a major source of that contamination. prescription drugs. cnn's meg tirrell has more. >> so forever chemicals are this group of chemicals known as pfas. and they've been around for decades. they're man made chemicals that have been used in all sorts of things, because they have a lot of really great properties, like making your cookware nonstick or making your clothing water repellent. for example. unfortunately, scientists then discovered that these things really don't break down in the environment, and they can accumulate over time. and they've increasingly been associated with health risks, including certain cancers, problems during pregnancy, decreasing our immune response to vaccines and other health issues. and so we knew that pfas already are in our drinking water, and the epa has started to regulate this more closely. this new study, though, looks at pfas in
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wastewater treatment plants. and increasingly, they say that is going to be something that we need to think about for drinking water, that essentially wastewater will be treated and then used as drinking water as we go through droughts and through climate change and things like that. and so this new study looked at the levels of pfas and associated chemicals in wastewater treatment plants. and they found that even with triple filtration sometimes, that these plants aren't able to get all the pfas and these chemicals out of the water, and that they estimate that about 23 million americans may be depending on water sources that are contaminated with these chemicals at levels higher than is recommended. and these chemicals can be coming from things including pharmaceuticals. they said a lot of very common drugs actually have these sort of chemical properties. and so as people take these and they end up in wastewater, that is one contributing source. and so what they recommend is that we either need to get better at stopping the pfas from going into the water, or better at filtering them out, or both,
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special events, the super bowl, already carried that classification, and new details about why proper sidewalk barriers weren't in place on new year's eve. new orleans former police chief on the bollards installed on his watch back in 2017. >> before i left, there were issue of the beads getting caught in the grooves. we were talking about the frequency of repairs that have to be made. however, we were always reinforcing that with large utility trucks, dump trucks, trash trucks, tow trucks, fire engines. and so we always reinforced it. >> officials say that barrier system was apparently being replaced at the time of the attack. joining me now, andrew mccabe, cnn senior law enforcement analyst new york has or sorry, new orleans has received a tier one status, which is the highest designation for event security by the department of homeland security. what will that mean? >> well, sarah, it's a process
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by which a state or a city that's hosting an event submits an application essentially to dhs. they review all aspects of the event. the likely attendees, the significance of the event nationally or internationally. and they rank it in terms of the tier system. so tier level one is the highest. mardi gras has always been a level two in the past, and this year it's been elevated to level one. and it simply means they'll get additional resources from the federal government to help secure the city for the event. and those resources will include things like bomb detection teams that might not have been allocated to the event beforehand. detection dogs they'll get a cybersecurity review, all sorts of really hands on assistance. and of course, help in actually preparing their security plan for the event. so all good things for the city of new orleans, something new orleans has wanted for the last
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couple of years. >> you have said that mardi gras is particularly difficult in this space to control what is going on there. why? why is that? >> so. you know, security at special events really depends on very simple things that are sometimes overlooked. the primary one for me, sarah, is always access. so these large events where you have massive crowds gathering in places where you cannot control access to the space, really raises the prospect of, um, of targeting by, uh, by malicious groups, terror groups, criminal groups, what have you. the reason is you can't you can't send everyone who's going to attend through a magnetometer. you can't check everyone's backpack or bags that are brought to the space. think about the the coolers that were used to deploy the ieds in this attack. that's the sort of thing that never would have
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made its way into a controlled space event. so that's what you have in the french quarter. it's what, one, maybe one and a half mile square area? it's a collection of small streets. you have a ton of traffic that goes through there on a daily basis with vendors and people supplying the businesses. so it's a very chaotic space and one that's very hard to control. >> i do you you all know the answer to this question because i myself cannot remember a time where there was an attack. and then a couple of weeks later, there was another major attack. i mean, how unusual would that be? because often the people that are planning on these attacks, they do it because people aren't prepared, cities aren't ready. what do you make of that? >> yeah, that's absolutely right. you know, sometimes an attack venue is chosen because it's off the radar and it won't be suspected. but other times, like apparently here in new orleans, we, you know, we we can certainly guess that this night was chosen by the
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attacker because of the crowd that would be there. they're looking to create as many casualties as possible, but it's exceedingly rare that one city would have several of these events in such a close proximity in time. so that really should even elevate, as if it wasn't already. elevate the security concerns on the part of local and state officials, because new orleans, i think, is now probably thought of as a potential terrorist target in ways that it wasn't before this attack. and terrorists, some terrorist organizations, some terrorist motivated individuals are driven by acts that they find to be symbolic. so the opportunity to come back to new orleans in such a short period of time and to strike again, is one that the state and local police and federal officials should be thinking hard about in the run up to these other events. >> see, i knew i should ask you that question because you thought about it very differently. and that's a
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really good point. andrew mccabe that's why you're the guy, and i'm just here asking the questions. appreciate it. thank you so much, kate. >> also new this morning. at least 95 people are dead after a powerful earthquake hit a remote region of tibet today. the 7.1 magnitude quake also wounded at least 130 people. more than 1000 homes are reportedly destroyed, and there have been multiple aftershocks. chinese president xi called on officials to make an all out effort now to find and rescue survivors. also, rudy giuliani is pushing back after a federal judge held him in contempt monday. according to this judge, the former new york mayor and trump ally has failed to turn over a single dollar of the $148 million judgment that he must pay to two former georgia election workers that he defamed. now, on monday, giuliani testified he could not find some of the property. he's been told to turn over. unable to find things like a joe dimaggio jersey. he also admitted he's holding on to his
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grandfather's watch. giuliani claims that the court's request is, quote, is, quote, enormously burdensome. later this month, giuliani is going to trial over whether he can keep his $3 million florida condo. john. >> all right. breaking news. just moments ago, facebook announced it is getting rid of fact checkers and also making major changes to what content is allowed. this is just the latest move as facebook's parent company meta and founder mark zuckerberg work to very publicly win favor with donald trump. >> the recent elections also feel like a cultural tipping point towards once again prioritizing speech. >> so we're going to get back to our roots and focus on reducing mistakes, simplifying our policies, and restoring free expression on our platforms. more specifically, here's what we're going to do. first, we're going to get rid of fact checkers and replace them with community notes similar to x starting in the u.s. we tried in good faith to address those concerns without becoming the
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arbiters of truth, but the fact checkers have just been too politically biased and have destroyed more trust than they've created, especially in the u.s. >> wow. >> getting rid of fact checkers and claire duffy. you can see her right here is here with us now. so what's going on here? >> yeah, john, this is a major reversal. let's not forget that the reason that facebook and meta introduced this third party fact checking system in the first place was because it was accused of allowing foreign actors to spread disinformation and discord around american political elections. now the company is saying it is getting rid of those third party fact checkers and will introduce this system called community notes, which is something that elon musk has also rolled out on x. it lets users add user generated context labels to posts, but you're relying on users to do that and to bring in the information. this was announced on fox and friends by joel kaplan, who is one of the company's top republicans. just last week, we talked about he was elevated to the company's top policy job. here's how he described the system.
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>> so somebody can write a note. >> and then the way it works is different. >> different people on the platform can sort of vote on that note. and if you get people who usually disagree, who all say, yeah, that sounds right, then that note gets put on the on the post and people see it. x has been doing it for a while. we think it's working really well and we're going to adopt that system. >> so meta also is announcing a number of other changes to its moderation practices. it's going to scale back some of the automatic filters that catch bad content. it says it will keep that for things like terrorism, child sexual exploitation. but for lower severity violations. it's going to ask users to report those before it evaluates them. companies also moving one of its key safety teams from california to texas. again, an effort to sort of appeal to perhaps users in that part of the country. and zuckerberg said that this is going to allow more bad things to make it onto the platform. he acknowledged that, but he said it will help with free expression. >> a couple points i want to make here. number one, joel kaplan announced that on fox
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news. again, everything very public, unsubtle. i think what meta is doing here, and i think they would perhaps admit to that. i don't think they would run away from that. and the new york times reporting that the trump administration got a heads up about this policy shift beforehand. so, again, it seems to be part of this larger, very public effort to curry favor. yeah. >> and kaplan did. he acknowledged that it was in part because of this change in administration that they are making these changes. he said that over the last four years, the company feels like it's experienced pressure to crack down on more content, and that the trump administration offers them an opportunity to pull back a bit there. so he is acknowledging it. i will note, too, the company announced yesterday that it is adding three new board members, including ufc ceo dana white, who we know is a trump supporter. he was stumping for trump on the campaign trail. so it does feel like this broader shift at the company completely unsubtle. >> all right, clare duffy, thank you very much, sarah. >> unsubtle indeed. all right. new this morning, a son who reported his father to the fbi for being part of the capitol insurrection does
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not want donald trump to let his father out of prison early. his mother is pushing for her husband to get a pardon from trump. they each spoke with cnn's donie o'sullivan and reveal the reality of a family that's been torn apart by the aftermath of january 6th. >> if trump pardons your dad, what's your biggest fear? >> you know, just getting shot in the street, i don't know, by your father, by my father, by someone he knows. there's a bunch of people that i don't know, and i don't know their intent. so you want to help me lift this? sure. this is jackson reffitt. >> do you want me to take this end here? yes, please. he says he's moving out of his rental home and into hiding for his own safety. >> he bought a gun because i got so paranoid and moving out because i'm scared. >> do you know how to fire a gun? >> yeah, i've been shooting it. >> do you have it on you right now? >> yeah, i have two, uh, wear it around the house kind of often just to get used to how it feels. okay. but i'm part
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of that. like, jackson's dad is guy reffitt, who was a member of the texas three percenter militia. i just kept going. >> go forward, go forward. >> i couldn't even see bro. >> he's serving a more than seven year sentence for his role in the january 6th capitol attack. reffitt was convicted of five felonies, including carrying a firearm on capitol grounds. so you reported your dad to the fbi? >> yes. >> that's what got him arrested. >> basically more or less. yeah. >> what effect has that had on your family? >> uh, it's destroyed it. >> was there a moment where you thought. i know my dad's done all this stuff, but i don't want to report him. >> uh, yeah. i still feel horrible. of course. like i can't get over it, but i don't regret it. >> when was the last time you spoke to your dad? >> five months ago. it was the first time i talked to him. and it was just a crying fest for the first ten minutes. and that was great. and then i brought
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up the fact that i'm worried about him getting out, and he was almost puzzled, you know, like he was confused as to why i thought that. >> are you overreacting? >> no. i get death threats daily, hourly. at this point, unbeknownst to us, it was our 18 year old son who turned his dad in to the fbi. >> why? uh, my my my son is a declared democratic socialist. >> jackson's mom, nicole, has become one of the most prominent people campaigning for the release of people serving time for january 6th. >> each and every one of our six. christopher albert nicole left texas and moved to washington, dc, where she takes part in a nightly vigil held here outside the city's jail. >> marcus malik even coming here for hundreds of nights, almost 900. >> why? you know, after i saw what happened to my husband, i could not sit on my hands at home anymore. >> do you wish i didn't come here on january 6th? >> no. i'm glad he stood up for something every night. >> january 6th. prisoners from
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around the country call in to the vigil. >> continue holding the line. >> this thing is almost done. >> including guy reffitt, who recently called in to wish nicole a happy birthday. >> happy birthday. sorry i couldn't get you something better than 80 months. but you know there. >> are you confident that trump will let your husband walk free? >> i feel like trump is a man of his word. what's the next step for your family to continue to fight together? >> nicole is sometimes joined in dc by her two daughters. jackson's sisters, who've been caught in the middle of a divided family, is not shown in my father. >> we have nothing against jackson. jackson's my brother, i love him, i love him no more than i love my father, i love my father. i love my family. >> from the beginning, the girls and i have received hundreds of mailed death threats. i'm not talking about online things. i'm talking about rape to my daughters, death to my husband, death to me. >> you don't think jackson has to be afraid of his dad? >> no. >> that's been put on the
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record several times. >> so why is jackson still afraid? >> i just think that it's the same thing where people think this red hat on my head is is scary and dangerous. it's that same mentality. jackson comes from a lot of love, and there's a lot of love left to be given justice for all. >> i mean, i love my mom. of course i love her. >> do you love your dad? >> of course i love my dad. i love my dad, but i can't. i can't feel safe around him. i hate having to put myself in this situation, to feel some sort of comfort after the election. and what's going to happen when my dad gets pardoned, when all these hundreds of people get pardoned and all these thousands of people get validated for their actions. and i'm one of those people that they call a traitor. and my dad once said, traitors get shot. so that's been ringing in my head for years and years and years. >> in a message from prison, guy reffitt said that jackson has never had anything to worry about from me, and he will never have anything to worry about from me, ever.
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