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>> so why is jackson still afraid? >> i just think that it's the same thing where people think this red hat on my head is is scary and dangerous. it's that same mentality. jackson comes from a lot of love, and there's a lot of love left to be given justice for all. >> i mean, i love my mom. of course i love her. >> do you love your dad? >> of course i love my dad. i love my dad, but i can't. i can't feel safe around him. i hate having to put myself in this situation, to feel some sort of comfort after the election. and what's going to happen when my dad gets pardoned, when all these hundreds of people get pardoned and all these thousands of people get validated for their actions. and i'm one of those people that they call a traitor. and my dad once said, traitors get shot. so that's been ringing in my head for years and years and years. >> in a message from prison, guy reffitt said that jackson has never had anything to worry about from me, and he will never have anything to worry about from me, ever. if your
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dad's watching this, what's what's your message to him that i love him and that i hope he gets better. >> and i hope i get better too. i hope i grow out of this paranoia right now, and that i really thought what i did was right. i thought i did what i did to protect him and my family and the people around him, and the people he could have hurt. >> but i only have eyes for greenland. president-elect trump says he wants to annex greenland. his son arrives there today. we've got new reporting on the plan here, a horrific discovery inside the wheel, well of an airplane. two bodies found after a flight from new york to florida and a passenger trapped inside a self-driving taxi as it circles around a parking lot. which level of hell is this? i'm john berman with kate bolduan and sara sidner. this is cnn news
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central. >> president elect donald trump saying now is the time to make greenland great again. he seems to be upping his push for u.s. control of the danish territory, sending his son, trump junior, to visit there today on truth social, trump posted in part, greenland is an incredible place and the people will benefit tremendously if and when it becomes part of our nation. this fixation with greenland started during his first term and will now apparently be a focus of his second. cnn's david chalian is joining us now. david, don junior's visit is not an official one. he's not an official with the trump campaign in this capacity. but what's his what's his plan? what's this all about? >> yeah. >> nor is donald trump president yet. >> we still have 13 days to go before he takes over the presidency.
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what they say is, is, as you know, you mentioned it was an item on the to do list that never got done in the first trump administration. and donald trump shortly before christmas talked about this again and started truth social. you know, denmark said that greenland is not for sale. the prime minister of greenland has said that they need to use this as a moment to fight for their independence, and that they are not for sale for anyone, but should think about how to govern themselves independently and who they trade with. but this is donald trump, real estate developer, on display. you know, i don't i don't think we should spend a whole ton of time on this until we know that there's an actual plan in place, an offer that there's a system set up, rather than just it being sort of a donald trump wish list item and bluster. i will say the former president has called it a national security necessity for the united states to
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acquire greenland. so it seems to me that would be a pretty big deal if he's unable to follow through with it, if indeed it is in his mind, a national security necessity. >> it's certainly not what he ran on. we should put that out there. trump also is attacking president biden, which is not unusual, but he's vowing to undo, of course, all of his latest last minute executive actions. talk to us a bit about what he's saying about biden, something that his, you know, staff is not saying. they're not saying the same things. >> yeah, that is true, sarah. and it's it's a good point. i mean, yesterday my ears perked up when i heard president-elect trump on the radio with hugh hewitt. and in the context of the news we covered yesterday that president biden was putting in motion a ban on offshore drilling in the atlantic and the pacific. and in that context, he was asked about this. and that's when trump started saying that this
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transition is not going so smoothly. they're trying to throw everything they possibly can to make it difficult. we had not heard that before. then a couple hours later, he went on truth social and sort of affirmed this point of view that they were trying to muck up gum up the works before he got in office. you see the truth social there that biden is doing everything possible to make the transition as difficult as possible, totally discordant from what his incoming chief of staff, siouxsie wiles, had suggested in a published interview yesterday with axios, where she told axios marc caputo that the current chief of staff, joe biden, chief of staff jeff zients, has been really gracious and forthcoming and hosted a dinner with all former white house chief of staff to sort of welcome her to the club and provide information and guidance on the state of things to make this a smooth transition. so to my ears, what i heard is donald trump starting to sort of cede the ground and lay the groundwork
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that if things are not moving so quickly once he takes over, if he's not able to put sort of w's winds up on the scoreboard right away, i bet you could imagine he'll start finger pointing towards joe biden. >> well, he republicans have the house and senate. that will be a hard thing to do when he is finally in office. david chalian thank you so much. always appreciate you coming on, kate, and joining us right now is ambassador john bolton, who was the longest serving national security advisor in the first trump administration. >> it's good to see you again, ambassador. thanks for coming on. about what david chalian and sarah were just talking about. the incoming president saying that biden's getting in the way of the transition, making it as difficult as possible. do you think that's true? >> well, i think what he's objecting to specifically is this effort to take federal lands out of the possibility of oil drilling. >> the and that's a substantive policy disagreement, which can be fixed in a trump administration by simply reversing
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what biden's doing, the difficulties that i think are being experienced in the transition have a lot more to do with the trump team's failure to sign up to the normal transition process to get their transition people access in various departments, particularly, for example, the defense department, where my understanding is that things are way, way behind where they might where they should be. with less than two weeks to go until the inauguration. and i think that's really worth investigating more. what is the state of play for people representing the the trump transition team and getting briefed on issues and substance in all the various different departments and agencies? my my guess is they're pretty far behind everywhere. but but as i say, particularly in the defense department, if that's not right, then let's hear about it. >> yeah, it's a good point. and you know, and who's at fault that's you know, you're getting to maybe the source of the problem there. donald trump sending his son on something of a scouting mission to
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greenland. we'll just call it that until we hear it more. you dealt with donald trump's interest in buying greenland when you were working in the white house. if the president elect is serious, do you think the way he is going about it makes it any more likely? >> well, i'm glad you asked the question that way. honestly, i have i despair about having a serious conversation on this subject, largely because of the way trump is going about it. but for all those who chuckle and say, oh, greenland, ha ha ha, let me just say you're wrong. to the security of greenland is directly related to the security of the united states. now, how we go about that is a subject for discussion. there is a long history here. i won't go through it here. i should have written about it in my book. but the book was already too long for the publisher. but it's just worth repeating that there are serious issues here that that need to be addressed. they don't necessarily need to be
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addressed by the united states acquiring sovereignty over greenland. there are a lot of ways to go about this. we looked at some of them when i was at the white house. there are probably more that can be done, but i'll tell you this. the one way to screw this up is to keep talking about it publicly. officials in greenland are elected by the people. officials in denmark are elected by the people. you keep talking about buying them as if it's a real estate deal. you're hardening their positions. you're pushing them into a corner. that will make it very difficult to achieve. what is the real american national interest here, which is preserving the security of the north american landmass? and obviously, critically, the united states itself. >> i think i think we just came up with the source material for your next opinion piece, which i actually want to get to. and in that context, i want to play for you what something that donald trump told hugh hewitt yesterday. listen to this. >> in my first term, people
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were fighting me all the way. they were just fighting me. in this term, it's so different, i think. i don't want to say people have given up because that's not nice, but they recognize that we really do have that mandate. >> i heard this and it reminds me of your new op ed about trump's obsession with loyalty. and just for everyone to read a bit of it, you write. in fact, mr. trump, mr. trump really wants his appointees to display fealty. a medieval concept implying not not mere loyalty, but. submission. are you warning the senate here? i was thinking when i read this that your message here was to the senators who will be handling confirmation. is there a way to stop appointees who, as you had described it, will carry out donald trump's orders blind to norms and standards or even legality? >> yeah. look, loyalty for most american citizens is a virtue.
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it's a positive thing. it's not loyalty that trump wants. it's the people who sign up to serve in senior positions in the administration have to swear an oath of loyalty to the constitution. that's what they're really there to defend. not not loyalty, blind loyalty to the to the person in the office of the president. but but trump. trump doesn't doesn't have any basic philosophy he's looking for in his appointees. there's real question whether he cares about competence. he just wants people who are going to salute and say, yes, sir, and go do what he wants without thinking of the consequences. and the irony here, not only is that bad for america, it's going to be bad for trump. a president is not well served by people who are afraid to speak out, afraid to say. but, mr. president, have you considered factors a, b and c, or mr. president, have you looked at this option which may get you to the to the goal you're seeking in a better way than what you've just said? he trump may get fealty, but
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ultimately it will work out badly for him and particularly badly for the for the country. so if the senate cares about that, it ought to look at whether these nominees are fit for office in terms of their views. i think in terms of opinions and policies, presidents owed great deference. but the but the advise and consent powers, they're really on the question of character and fitness. >> ambassador john bolton, thanks for coming in, john. >> all right. breaking overnight, two bodies found in the landing gear of a jetblue flight in florida. florida, i should say. and ick. norovirus surging across the united states. new details on what is behind this stomach bug and how you can avoid it. end quote. complicit in the rape of britain. the new accusations launched by elon musk that have him in hot water with the u.k. government. >> kobe believed in himself at the youngest possible
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the robert mueller report, that's essentially what this would be. >> the special counsel regulations under which jack smith is operating say that at the end of his investigation. and we're there for jack smith. he must. it's mandatory. create a written report that lays out his findings. now, at that point, the report goes to the attorney general, who then may not must but may release it to the public. now, merrick garland, so far in his term, has immediately released special counsel reports to the public. he did that with the robert her report about joe biden's classified documents. he did it with john durham's report. so donald trump is taking really an unprecedented step here of trying to block the release of that report every time. thus far in our recent history, where one of these reports has been written, it has, in fact gone over to congress and then come out to the american public. >> there are a couple of interesting legal nuances here when it comes to the classified documents. case number one, judge aileen cannon basically threw out this case because she ruled the appointment of a
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special counsel was unconstitutional on its face. so could that impact the existence of a report? >> yeah, that's a fascinating question. i think that will be the argument that donald trump will make to judge cannon. but remember, she only has the classified documents case. there's a separate case in washington, d.c. on the january 6th indictment. so that argument is not going to apply. but i do think he's going to argue donald trump's team will argue the entire institution of special counsel is unconstitutional. as judge cannon found. and therefore you cannot release this report that will take us into unknown territory, because while there have been several challenges lodged against special counsel over the years in various cases, not just this one, they've all failed up until judge cannon. so that could be the hook that he's trying to use here. >> in one other little nuance here is that there are two other people charged and still charged in this case, walt nauta and carlos de oliveira. and their lawyers basically arguing, look, you put out this
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report. this could prejudice the case against them. >> it's such an interesting wrinkle because they have a much stronger argument than donald trump does, because donald trump is out of this case. it's been dismissed against him. so the argument to him is you don't have any real stake in what comes out in this report. but nada and de oliveira, those are the two mar-a-lago employees who were charged along with trump in the classified documents case. they are still defendants and they will say it wildly prejudices us and undermines our rights to have this long written tome come out that will talk about all the criminality we've engaged in. now, on the flip side of that, i would bet you john berman that by january 21st of this year, both nada and de oliveira are recipients of pardons. but the report's got to come first, so we'll see. >> that's a very fair point. look, one of donald trump's best friends over the last several years has been the clock, right. so how does the clock play here? if this report isn't released, if it's held up even days, could he somehow keep it from being released
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once he's president absolutely. >> he's got a very distinct line in the sand. noon january 20th. when he takes that oath of office, he will then be in a position to install his own attorney general. whether pam bondi has been confirmed by then or not. but he can take charge of doj and say, do not issue this report. so we are very much on the clock here. donald trump is trying again to to draw things out. but if he can keep this thing locked up in the courts until noon on january 20th, then when he becomes president, he very much will be in a position to kill this report and make sure it does not come out all right. >> it will be a very interesting, what, 12, 12 days on this front? elie honig, i don't think i'm speaking out of school by saying you're actually writing a book on special counsel. so this is an area, you know, quite a bit about. looking forward to that read. all right, kate, first official plug. >> thanks, john coming up for us. >> we have new details on growing concerns over bird flu. now, the first human fatality
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investigation right now. happening this morning. the broward county sheriff's office sending us a release shortly. a short time ago saying that they arrived on the scene earlier this morning, along with the medical examiner to investigate this tragedy. they say there will they will be conducting an autopsy to determine the cause of death. but this flight had originated, according to jetblue, had departed from new york around 7 p.m. last night, had landed in fort lauderdale shortly after 11 p.m. when this discovery was made in the early morning hours during a post maintenance inspection. now, you mentioned kate. this happens just two weeks after a stowaway. the body of a stowaway was found in a flight from chicago's o'hare airport, bound for maui that same day. on christmas eve, another stowaway found while the plane was taxiing at seattle's seatac airport. and of course, many of us remember what happened thanksgiving week. an unticketed passenger also at jfk airport, managing somehow to make it from jfk all the way to paris before being discovered. now the faa tells us that stowaways often use the landing gear to hide in, not realizing just how, you know,
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small of a space. there is. once that landing gear retracts. this investigation in fort lauderdale's airport currently underway to figure out who these individuals are and again, how they got there. kate. >> nick, thank you so much. clearly, much more to learn from this one. appreciate it. sarah. all right. >> to discuss further. joining me now is cnn transportation analyst and former inspector general for the department of transportation, mary schiavo. thank you so much for being here. i guess the first question is, how does this happen for us passengers? we know that pilots have to do all these checks before takeoff. and if there's one tiny thing wrong, we get stuck at the gate. so are there inspections outside of the plane to check to see if there's any problem? for example, in the landing gear. >> absolutely. >> before the first flight of the day, of course, the pilots are due to do the walk around from the aircraft and before every flight they're supposed to, you know, do a a shorter check of their aircraft. and of course, all of the checklists
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within the cockpit as well. and the bigger question is, of course, you know, the the reports say we're supposed to be on high alert for potential terrorism. aviation is often the the attack target of terrorist attacks. and yet the airport on the tarmac is supposed to be covered by surveillance. we're supposed to have camera coverage, and everyone on that tarmac is supposed to have a background check and supposed to be an airline employee who's documented and known. so the fact that this keeps happening and people who are not stowaways, the faa did a report on stowaways in the wheel wells are not usually airport or airline employees. and yet this keeps happening. people are getting onto the airport property and getting into an aircraft, and it poses a huge security danger for the aircraft because these people were just apparently just trying to get someplace. but it could have easily been someone attempting to attack aviation. >> how common is this that someone is found in a wheel? well, and i'm
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asking because we've now seen two separate incidents within a couple of weeks of each other. >> well, you know, once again, the faa has actually done a study. they haven't fixed the problem, but they've done a study from about 1947 to 2020. the faa documented 128 cases worldwide of wheel well stowaways. now, over 75% died. and back when they did the study, the most likely country for a wheel. well stowaway was cuba. and the reasons were, of course, illegal immigration or literally in some cases, just wanting to go visit relatives, reconnect with a mom, reconnect with friends, et cetera. and of course, it's not likely airline or airport employees because they know that the wheel wells are very dangerous place. you can get crushed. you can die from hypothermia. um, you know, and the noise is horrendous. even if you do survive, you might have long term damage to any number of body parts. but the issue that this has been done and now in the united states, done
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repeatedly, um, is a huge concern for aviation safety and security. and of course, there's almost always a very sad result for the person attempting to do this. and by the way, almost all of them are male and under 30. so obviously they realize it's a physical feat and they're going to have to crawl around the wheel well, but it is clearly an aviation security violation and a very serious one. >> you have delved deep into this because you even have a profile of of who tends to do this, mary schiavo and it is such a pleasure to have you with us, to give us some of these details. i had no idea that there was an actual profile of those getting into wheel wells, but the fact that we've seen it over the last couple of weeks, twice, very concerning. and thank you so much for coming on. i appreciate you very, kate, coming up for us, strong winds whipping up fire, danger in southern california. >> now, officials are warning the windstorms will be life threatening and the most destructive in decades and a
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accusations. now, british lawmakers are demanding action over elon musk's inflammatory social media campaign against their government. the tech billionaire has launched repeated attacks against british prime minister keir starmer over his past role in handling historic child abuse cases. the prime minister is barking back, calling his accusations, misinformation and lies. cnn's nic robertson has more on the story. >> elon musk is gunning for world leaders in his crosshairs. uk prime minister keir starmer alleging failings in a child sexual abuse scandal when starmer was the uk's chief prosecutor more than a decade ago, and posting this question to his followers. if america should liberate the people of britain from their tyrannical government, starmer, firing back we've seen this playbook many times, whipping up of intimidation and threats
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of violence. musk's inaccurate and sensationalist accusations are catching uk politicians off guard. his trolling of starmer is not new. last summer, claiming racist riots were tipping the uk into civil war. but this, and his international meddling is reaching new levels. since becoming president elect, donald trump's adviser, musk's words have more muscle. the power pair have teamed up on calls with world leaders, notably with vladimir zelenskyy. one day after the u.s. presidential elections. but it is musk's right wing push picking up on what former trump strategist and adviser steve bannon began eight years ago, championing europe's far right populist disrupters. that has europe's leaders worried. >> ten years ago, if we'd been told that the owner of the largest social media networks
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would support an international reactionary movement and directly intervene in elections, including germany. >> musk, also supporting the hard right afd alternative for germany party, which has been accused of resurrecting nazi rhetoric ahead of elections there next month. but musk is going further right than bannon, attacking a staunch trump ally, nigel farage, saying farage doesn't have what it takes to lead his upstart reform uk party. farage, the british populist who pushed brexit just hours before musk's put down, had counted the tech titan a supporter who might finance his fledgling party. >> the fact that he supports me politically and supports reform doesn't mean i have to agree with every single statement he makes on x, y. >> the falling out, possibly differences over this man known as tommy robinson, a jailed anti-muslim
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campaigner who fanned the flames of racist riots last summer. musk praises him. farage doesn't. the question in europe now how far right will musk go? nic robertson, cnn, london. >> happening today, president-elect donald trump's pick for director of national intelligence is set to meet with lawmakers on capitol hill. tulsi gabbard, a former democrat, will meet with the top democrat on the senate intelligence committee, senator mark warner. cnn national security reporter zach cohen is with us now. look, there have been some bumps in the road in gabbard's nomination. she's trying to maybe smooth those out yeah. >> john, we've seen gabbard make the rounds up here on capitol hill over the last few weeks, meeting mostly with republican senators, trying to convince them that she should be confirmed to be the head of donald trump's intelligence community. >> but look, today's meeting, expected meeting with senator warner could provide or could prove to be a unique test for gabbard as she continues to try to get through the confirmation
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process. warner, as you mentioned, a democrat, which is the party that gabbard used to belong to. could push gabbard in a way during during this private meeting on issues that maybe didn't come up or didn't, you know, warrant follow up questions in her prior meetings. that includes questions about her notorious 2017 trip to syria and where she met with the syrian dictator bashar al assad. we know senators, including warner, have questions about that trip, about why what gabbard said to bashar al-assad during that meeting, also about gabbard's views on things like government surveillance. we know gabbard has been sort of a unique skeptic and had some, you know, a unique level of distrust of the government agencies who do the surveillance. and those are the agencies that she would, in part, be leading as the head of the intelligence community, if she's confirmed. so a pivotal meeting potentially today with senator warner, the top democrat on the intelligence committee, as gabbard is trying to pave the way to a confirmation hearing and ultimately to confirmation. but look, at the end of the day, gabbard is really relying on and only needs republican votes
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to get confirmation, and that will largely be dictated by whether or not republicans fall in line behind the likely and expected chairman of the senate intel committee, tom cotton, a republican who gabbard will need his vote in order to get confirmed. we'll be watching closely to see what, if anything, warner or gabbard says after today's expected meeting. but be sure that today will be a unique test for gabbard as she makes her way to a potential hearing. >> zach colgan parked right outside senator mark warner's office. zach, great to see you. thank you very much, kate. thanks, john. >> joining us right now is democratic congressman from illinois, mike quigley, to talk much more about this and more. let's start there. tulsi gabbard going to meet with mark warner today. what is your sense of the direction do you think of her nomination? i mean, as zach says, he basically needs republicans. but do you think mark warner's opinion coming out of this meeting could change things? >> well, i'd like to think it would. this is a nomination of
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great concern, widely inexperienced and a critical role. let's remember why we formed odni in the first place. >> it was post nine over 11. it was to coordinate the intelligence community, to force them to share information to avoid another 9/11. couple that with the fact that her meeting with assad isn't just an isolated incident. the fact that she came back from that secret meeting saying he's not an enemy of the united states, it concerns me that our allies wouldn't share critical information that keeps us safe, because they simply wouldn't trust her. >> it'll be interesting if we hear from mark warner coming out of that meeting for sure. um, also in the house, the focus now turns especially for republicans pushing for one big bill to kind of come out of the gate with of all of donald trump's priorities as he comes into office. the discussion was really pushing for that. that was sunday, monday. and now
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come tuesday, you're hearing it. i don't know if it's people are saying, pump the brakes or just reality is setting in. even republicans seeming to think this might not be the way to go about it. let me play what lindsey graham said. >> is it a risk to put it all in one bill? >> i think it's a risk to our country to delay border security. so if you're a tax cutting person, which i understand, and you're holding the border bill hostage, i think that's a dangerous thing. >> are you more or less likely to sign on to a massive bill that includes possibly, maybe something for everyone, border security, energy tax cuts, debt ceiling suspension? >> well, obviously we haven't seen any text yet, but let me go back. the fact of the matter is that the margins are close, and i'd like to think they'd need democratic support. the way to get people to agree to communicate ahead of time, and try to meet in the middle. it's hard to
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expect people to compromise if you take extreme positions at the beginning. so if they want to work with democrats, we're there to do just that. but let's talk about what we're what we're trying to address. and the fact of the matter is, i've been here 16 years. the bigger the bill, the more issues that are involved, the more likely you are to draw opposition to it. you know, look, i've got a two year term here in the majority. let's work at these issues one at a time. try to get it right. >> nic robertson is reporting that we played just a short time ago about foreign leaders now speaking out against elon musk. i mean, elon musk has used his platform to say a lot of things long before he was in donald trump's orbit, opining on lots of things. and now it seems world leaders seem to take him very, very seriously from the prime minister, the british prime minister, even french president emmanuel
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macron, speaking out yesterday, seemingly baffled and accusing elon musk of meddling in european elections. do you think elon musk has that much power? >> well, i think the fact that people think he does means he probably does. look, what look what happened in the united states when we tried to pass a bill before the holiday break? that was a compromise, bipartisan, bicameral bill that virtually everyone agreed on. it was going to become law. and elon musk enters the fray and defeats it. and then we pass something just to move along, just to kick the can down the the street. it accomplished absolutely nothing. but it showed early on that he does have this. you know, the joke was calling him president musk. i think the the actual term that should be played is oligarch. this is an extraordinarily wealthy person who has disproportionate
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political power, having not been elected to absolutely anything. >> mm. >> um, elon musk also connected with another news breaking news story that's come out today. meta has announced this morning that it's making major changes to its content moderation on facebook and instagram. mark zuckerberg saying they are getting rid of fact checkers, replacing them with user generated community notes, which is similar to what we know elon musk has done with x. the way mark zuckerberg puts it in his announcement was that he says the fact checkers were getting were too politically biased, and he's now attempting to restore free expression. the new york times is reporting, congressman, the trump administration got a heads up about this move. what do you think of this? >> look, it's the lack of profiles in courage. would zuckerberg do this if trump had lost the election? is this just an attempt, uh, blatantly trying to appease the president going in so he's not attacked?
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let's just remember, in 2017, the entire intelligence community said that the russians attacked through social media our democratic process, and they did it to help the trump campaign. so social media is an extraordinary weapon against our democracy. there is a balance to protect our first amendment rights. but when you take away the guardrails and you see the far right connections here, it's a great concern. >> so what do you what do you can you do about, i'll say, the elon musk ization of the federal government, if that's the the direction it's going, not elected, not in not going into the government. what what direction is this heading? >> look, what we can do as democrats is draw attention to what he's done and the fact that obviously he wasn't elected and how this impacts
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>> this is big. >> i mean, you know, we typically think of norovirus as sort of the cruise ship virus and for good reason. but this is clearly expanded beyond that, as it often does this time of year. >> this is sometimes called the winter vomiting virus because it really surges in the winter. but to give you, if it seems like you're hearing about it more, it's because there have been a lot of outbreaks, some 500 since august. there was one week. i don't know how well you can see that graph, but there's one week in december where we had nearly 100 outbreaks in that one week alone. so there is a lot of norovirus out there. and, you know, you're seeing a lot of the the the transmission of this virus, not only again in cruise ships, but in all these other locations. and if you look at the numbers now in terms of overall impact, it's significant every year about, you know, up to 20 million illnesses, 400, some thousand e.r. visits, 100,000 hospitalizations and 900 deaths. that's a typical year. we'll see what this particular
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season sort of has in store for us, because again, we're seeing more outbreaks. we don't know for sure why that is. we talked to the cdc, and what we're learning is that the strains of norovirus, and it's a class of viruses, norovirus is not just one virus, but the strains of viruses do seem to have changed this past year. we're not sure if this new strain is actually more transmissible or more lethal, but it is different than in years past, and that could be potentially fueling some of this, john. >> generally speaking, why is it so transmissible? >> yeah, this is interesting. there's two basic reasons. one is that it can take just a few hundred viral particles to get you sick, typically with other viruses it could be hundreds of thousands. you need a much higher dose, if you will, to actually get sick. norovirus a few hundred. the other thing is it can live on surfaces for a long time. so if it gets on surfaces, people touch that surface with their hand and then touch their mouth. that is going to be the most common way
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that they are actually getting infected. >> so you were saying that it's sometimes called the winter vomiting virus, which is unsubtle, as they say. so other than that, how do you know if you've got it? >> you know, one of the biggest things with this virus and i, you know, talk to patients about this all the time. the the onset of symptoms will seem very sudden. you go from feeling fine to feeling quite sick in a very short amount of time. if you've experienced that feeling, you know what i'm talking about. that is probably one of the noroviruses that's affected that. and then you see the symptoms on the screen, which are, you know, pretty standard symptoms for gi viruses nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, and then also chills and muscle aches. it typically resolves most people will do well one to 2 or 3 days. maybe you have symptoms, but those few days can be pretty miserable. and there's no there's no vaccine for this. there's no particular treatment. you just have to sort of, you know, weather that
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storm. >> everyone in this room right now, all around me, we all want to know what we can do to avoid this. >> yeah, well, think about the way that you get this. primarily, it is typically from touching a contaminated surface and then touching your your nose and your mouth. that's typically how you get sick. um, you've got to wash your hands a lot, especially if you're around other people who are sick. that's an obvious one. what i think is, is less obvious is when you think about cleaning surfaces. so let's say someone in your house is sick, you want to clean surfaces. that makes sense. you often reach for something like this. this says, you know, kills what, 99.9% of viruses? well guess what? norovirus falls into that 0.1%. oh, no. so this actually doesn't do a good job there. but what you really need to find are products that have hydrogen peroxide in it. so look for that. by the way, you can read all the viruses on the back and you won't find norovirus hydrogen peroxide and or bleach. make your own this time of year. it's really important, especially if you have someone in the house who's sick.
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>> all right. that is good information. i never thought of. the 99.9% is a pretty big exception. that's like a pretty big, you know, sneak it through there. all right. sanjay gupta, always great to see you. thank you very much. >> you too. you got it, sara. >> oh, don't forget, head over to cnn.com and send us your questions on norovirus. sanjay is going to be here all week to answer them. and really, it's everywhere. i know people have a lot of questions on this now, sara, i have never thought about that 0.1 percent. >> who who would, who would. but now we know. sanjay gupta always has all the good answers. all right. here is something else that people are worrying about. the first human death from h5n1 bird flu in the u.s. has been reported in louisiana. health officials say their investigation found no other human cases linked to this person's infection, but there have been several cases of humans contracting bird flu around the country. the cdc says the overall risk at the moment to the public is low, but if you work with animals or have chickens in your backyard,
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you are at a higher risk and should watch for breathing problems and red infected eyes for ten days after exposure. and while the east deals with the snow, it is the wind creating a particularly dangerous situation in southern california this morning. 18 million people are under a red flag warning as forecasters prepare for a potentially life threatening wind storm, with gusts up to 100mph and exceptionally strong santa ana wind event is expected to develop this afternoon and blow through wednesday. officials are warning that the extremely dry air could easily fan the flames of a fire and spread dangerously fast, so you're on your way to the airport. you have chosen the cool new tech on the roads, a driverless car, and then things go alarmingly wrong. chances are you have probably seen these cars out there. an arizona man got into one of those and got stuck. take a look.
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