years where he felt completely under siege all the time when he was in the white house. that's not how he felt. he i mean, he's given voice to this when he said, you know, everyone used to attack me, and now everyone's being a friend of mine. that's part of his sort of lighter feeling about this moment and becoming the 47th president again, different than he felt becoming the 45th president. and and this was a return to your point about the trailer. i just wonder if america knew we were going to get sort of this kind of repeat performance. >> it's just a fascinating glimpse of his mindset. the artificial line separating the united states and canada. i know that's an internationally recognized border, as is the sovereignty of greenland, as is the treaty where jimmy carter signed over the panama canal, as is when you pull out a map. i use maps every now and then where it says the gulf of mexico. that's been there for a while. donald trump thinks if i wanted to be, it shall be. it's just a fascinating glimpse at his mindset. and, you know, in 13 days, he becomes president of united states again. and we will we

will watch how much again, she knows better than anyone at this table. a lot of what he says is for negotiating purposes and purposes, to get some percentage of what he really says is what he wants. but here it comes. >> they say you should live in interesting times. these are those times. thank you all for getting us through that, i appreciate it. thank you for watching inside politics. cnn news central starts right now. >> speaking his mind. president-elect donald trump addresses reporters at mar-a-lago, talking everything from not ruling out using military force to take control of the panama canal in greenland, to plans to rename the gulf of mexico, as he received some good news on the legal front from a judge in florida. the inauguration is only 13 days away, and remembering the legacy of jimmy carter. the state funeral for our 39th president is this afternoon. honoring a man who

knew how to, quote, translate faith into action. and a stunning announcement from the parent company of facebook and instagram. meta. i should say meta says fact checkers are out. a move that ceo mark zuckerberg admits will lead to more harmful content on the platforms. we are following these major developing stories and many more, all coming in right here to cnn news central. i'm pamela brown in washington with breaking news. president elect donald trump is amplifying his push for u.s. control of the panama canal and the danish territory of greenland. and he also talked about canada wanting to annex it when it comes to greenland and panama. it sounds like he's not ruling out military force. >> can you assure the world that as you try to get control

of these areas, you are not going to use military or economic coercion? >> i can assure you you're talking about panama and greenland. no, i can't assure you on either of those two. but i can say this. we need them for economic security. the panama canal was built for our military. i'm not going to commit to that now. it might. it might be that you'll have to do something. >> and when it comes to canada, he said he was open to economic force. so this was all during this news conference just a short time ago, where trump spoke to reporters about this wide range of issues, including his idea of making canada a u.s. state and renaming the gulf of mexico. and he outlined parts of his economic plan and ticked through a list of grievances while railing against the legal cases against him. i want to bring in jeff zeleny, who is live for us now in west palm beach, florida, right near trump's mar-a-lago

resort. you know, i think as a reporter listening to this, jeff, it certainly stood out to me that donald trump would not rule out military force to take control of the panama canal and greenland, but also, when it comes to canada, you know, he had sort of what we thought was seemingly joking before trying to belittle justin trudeau, saying canada is the 51st state. but he seemed pretty serious in wanting to annex it and make it part of the u.s. >> he definitely is serious about that. pamela. certainly a long list of headlines mixed in with some familiar grievances and greatest hits as well. but you mentioned renaming the gulf of mexico. he proposed renaming it to the gulf of america on another specific issue, on the pardoning of january 6th. the defendants. he did not rule out pardoning violent offenders. he had a long list of grievances against what the biden administration is doing on executive orders. but it was greenland, something that the president elect has been talking about repeatedly, initially sounding like

bluster, he made clear he's very serious about that. for national security concerns, we need greenland for national security purposes. >> i've been told that for a long time, long before i even ran. i mean, people have been talking about it for a long time. you have approximately 45,000 people there. people really don't even know if denmark has any legal right to it. but if they do, they should give it up because we need it for national security. that's for the free world. i'm talking about protecting the free world. >> so perhaps it's no surprise that donald trump, of course, the real estate magnate, would want to expand u.s. territory much more complicated than that. of course, it's a danish territory, and it's not for the u.s. is to have. that does not necessarily mean that he could not build an argument for that, as well as send a message to other world leaders that donald trump is on the verge of being back. of course, his first term in office. pamela, as you well

remember, we covered his first presidency. he made a hallmark out of trying to keep other foreign leaders off balance, if you will. and on that vein, he talked about a nato talking about, once again, um, you know, demanding and emerging fellow nato members to contribute more of their of their gdp. he also said if the hostages are not out in gaza by the time he takes office, he said all hell will break out. so certainly a variety of headlines there. in the first news conference of the year from the president elect. but, pamela, the question is, as he comes back, his legislative agenda at the very end, he said he, you know, does not necessarily have a preference over one bill or a variety of bills for his agenda. that is a central question. how does he enact all of these policies into action? but there is no doubt he has a lot on his mind. just 13 days before taking office, yeah, talking more than an hour there at mar-a-lago. >> jeff zeleny. thank you so much. and he also praised

federal judge aileen cannon in florida. and actually around the same time that this press conference was happening, that judge blocked the public release of special counsel jack smith's final report on his investigations into trump. the president elect's attorneys, along with the attorneys for his two co-defendants in the classified documents case, wanted it blocked, calling it a one sided argument, and this decision could be appealed to the supreme court. but for the next several days, judge cannon says it cannot even be transmitted outside of the department of justice. i want to bring in cnn senior crime and justice correspondent katelyn polantz. what is judge cannon's argument here, caitlin? >> well, judge cannon is not actually doing much other than saying nobody is sharing this report for at least three days outside of the justice department. so we were awaiting the release of jack smith's final report, the summation of all of his work, his charging decisions in both the classified documents case before judge cannon, and the january 6th case, which is

against trump in washington, dc, or was it's been dismissed. now, the justice department said they could release it publicly as early as friday at the attorney general's decision. if he wants to do that. and so trump's team, the co-defendants in the classified documents case, he has two of them who work for him, also accused of obstruction of justice. they also are facing the dismissal of this case, but ongoing appeals, they are going to court and saying we don't want any of this to become public because it could hurt us. and so judge cannon said, yeah, let's look at the appeals court here. you've asked them as well to block the release of this. i'm going to say now, today, no one who gets this report in the department of justice, who has it with special counsel smith's office, their officers, agents, employees, no one can share it outside of the justice department. and once the 11th circuit court of appeals makes a decision here on what to do if they, too, want to block the release of it, there's going to be a three day window where nothing can be done. and so we're in this moment where

things are running out of time. here's what trump said at the press conference when he was told that this had happened. while he was speaking, that judge cannon put in this order. >> they're not allowed to issue the report. so if they're not allowed to issue the report, that's the way it should be. because he was thrown off the case in disgrace. why should he be allowed to write a fake report? it'll only be a fake report. that's great news. good. >> he mentioned smith's role here. that's a main argument of what his team and his co-defendants are arguing. that jack smith just doesn't have the power to be the special prosecutor here, and thus also shouldn't be able to release a report like this. >> and it's just so interesting how trump's two co-defendants played a role in this, right? >> yeah, they're actually the ones who are still in court because the justice department says, okay, we're dropping the cases against trump. he's going to be president. but there are appeals over whether jack smith has power going through the court system down and around florida. now, no one

in d.c., where this other case against trump exists has ever said that. and so there's a split right now in the country of whether jack smith has power. that is what's before the appeals court. and that's where walt nauta and carlos de oliveira, they're getting this way into the case to go to that appeals court and say, you know, we could have exposure here still, we could face more prosecution if this case gets revived. can you please shut this down? >> all right. katelyn polantz, thank you so much. i want to bring in cnn's senior legal analyst, elie honig. i mean, what do you think about cannon's ruling? surprise. not a surprise. >> well, it's important to understand. first of all, pam, we just saw donald trump sort of trumpeting this ruling as some sort of substantive victory. >> he was criticizing jack smith. >> judge cannon's ruling has nothing to do with any sort of judgment about the case itself. all that she has said, as katelyn polantz just pointed out, is everything is on hold until the court of appeals can

rule on this. now, it is a surprise that there's even a challenge to the issuance of this special counsel report, because previously it's been undisputed. the special counsel regulations. we saw it with robert mueller. we saw it with robert. her say unambiguously that at the end of the special counsel's investigation, he has to issue a report. now these lawyers are making really an unprecedented argument that that special counsel report should be blocked, should be held back because, as caitlin just laid out, two of the defendants, walt nauta and carlos de oliveira, they still have theoretically alive cases, and they're arguing this would be prejudicial to us to have doj release a probably several hundred page report laying out our conduct. >> so what do you think about the department of justice, what it's going to do? appeal. >> well, they're definitely going to fight this. they're going to argue in the 11th circuit court of appeals that we doj should be allowed. we have to actually, under the regulations, issue a special counsel report. let me give you one other idea, pam,

to watch jack smith, if he runs into trouble here, if the classified documents report down in florida continues to be stuck and held up in the courts, he has an option strategically where he can actually separate his report into two separate volumes. he can say, okay, fine. now i've got two different documents. the one in florida is being held up and it's going through litigation, the court of appeals, but separately, i'm going to create a separate document that's going to be the january 6th special report out of d.c., and that is going to be harder for donald trump or anyone else to challenge, because those two codefendants, nauta and de oliveira, they're not co-defendants in the january 6th case. so look for jack smith. if he runs into too much of a roadblock in florida to maybe break these into two and at least try to release the january 6th report in d.c. >> all right. i want to turn to something else. and that would be trump's hush money case. right now, you have this appeals court that is hearing trump's request to delay the friday sentencing. and i put sentencing in quotes because it's not your typical

sentencing, right. it can happen over zoom. and he's not going to face jail time or anything like that. but he's basically appealing his 34 felony convictions and this whole thing and the sentencing. do you think the appeals court will side with judge merchan? >> well, they just heard argument minutes ago. and, pam, it's important to understand with both of these stories, we are in unprecedented territory here. i mean, we say that quite a bit, but in fact, during the argument that was just happening in new york, one of the judges asked todd blanche, donald trump's lawyer, do you have anything like this that you can point to before? and todd blanche said candidly, no, this is brand new territory. now, here's the argument trump is making in the hush money case. and again, as you said, judge merchan had said, i'm going to sentence you on friday, three days from today. donald trump made an argument yesterday to judge merchan. he said, well, hang on, i'm appealing this case based on immunity. now, judge merchan has rejected the immunity argument, but trump is appealing it. and what trump is arguing. trump's lawyers is that while that immunity appeal is going on, everything has to

stop at the trial court. everything has to be put on pause, including the sentencing. now, judge merchan disagreed. yesterday he said no. if there was a trial, i would have to stop that. but we're already done with trial. all that's left is, as you said, pam, this probably brief zum sentencing where i'm not going to give you prison in all likelihood, and i'm not blocked from doing that. so trump lost there. so now he's at the next level up. now he is arguing as we speak in the new york appeals court saying, i need you to step in and block friday's sentencing. >> elie honig. thank you, as always, for helping us better understand all this stuff happening on the legal front. we appreciate it. and still ahead on cnn news central, with president-elect trump refusing to rule out military force to gain control of greenland, his oldest son is visiting there today. what we know about this trip, plus a final farewell to jimmy carter, the former president is making his final return to washington, where he will lie in state at the capitol rotunda. that and much

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that. >> what seemed to be that donald trump terminator bobblehead on the cockpit dashboard of that aircraft as it was coming in to land. it was quite interesting because, um, donald trump jr.. he said that all of this is just a private trip. he said that he's there at a tourist, but of course, comes at that very interesting time as the president elect has been talking about essentially taking over greenland on the part of the united states. i want to listen to a little bit of what don jr. said after he landed there in nuuk, greenland. >> we're really excited to be here. thank you guys so much. you and christian here as tourists. seeing it looks like an incredible place. we've been talking about going for a while. i was actually supposed to be here last spring for some of the stuff i do on my free time, but just really excited to be here. awesome country. the scenery coming in was just spectacular, so just very excited to be here. thank you trump. he says hello. okay. we were talking to him yesterday. so he says hello to everyone in

greenland. >> it was quite interesting because afterwards donald trump jr. was also asked whether or not his father still planned to buy greenland. he refused to answer that question and just sort of walked away. but of course, greenland is very strategically important place for the united states. the u.s. already has a space force base there, and also a missile defense radar. one of the other things, pam, that's also happening that the u.s. has been keeping an eye on is china has been trying to get a foothold there, especially with some of those mineral reserves. that definitely has been a concern for the u.s. of course, the president elect now saying that he wants greenland to essentially become a territory of the united states. today at that press conference, also not ruling out using force to achieve that. all of this, even though denmark is literally one of the united states closest and most reliable allies in europe, and you were already alluding to it, the prime minister of denmark, she came out and said that denmark definitely wants great relations with the united states, wants a u.s. presence in greenland. but at the same time, greenland simply isn't for sale. pamela. >> all right. fred pleitgen, we

shall see what happens. thanks so much. and joining us now is democratic congressman jim himes of connecticut. he is the ranking member of the intelligence committee. all right. so what do you make of president-elect trump declining to rule out using military and or economic action in order to gain control of either panama canal, greenland and even canada with the economic force? your thoughts? >> pam, i think two things. number one, i'm a democrat, right? >> and we got our butts kicked in the election. >> i'm in the minority in the house. we have a minority in the senate. we lost the presidency. and there is a criticism which i accept and take on board, which is that the democratic party got too far away from the kitchen table issues of the american people. people felt that chicken was too expensive, the rent was too high. >> and now, fresh off his victory, president-elect trump is talking about taking greenland, renaming the gulf of mexico, getting european countries to pay 5% of their gdp for nato. like, where does this come from? and how does this in any way, shape or form

address the economic concerns and economic issues of an awful lot of people who voted for this man? that's thing one. thing two guess what? denmark is our nato ally. >> mexico is really, really important to us in stopping fentanyl and helping us with the migration problems we have at the southern border. >> canada is really important to us. another nato ally. we should not be gratuitously these people off. i just again, where is the economic benefit for the people who voted for donald trump when he's off, you know, telling tales of greenland and renaming the gulf of mexico? >> well, when the way he pitches it is, you know, when it comes to greenland, for example, it's for national security purposes. is there any credence to that statement? >> no. it's bananas. it's insane. i mean, you know, again, denmark, which owns greenland, i think that's probably a fact that most americans are learning is a nato ally. right? and no. so it's just complete madness from a national security standpoint. and it also is antagonizing, right? what if some leader in canada or mexico is elected and

says, you know, mexico, we want california back, we're getting california back, or the british say we're taking maine back. i mean, this is just it's noise. and again, where is the economic story that this president that elected this president? where are the initiatives to try to make chicken less expensive, to lower housing costs? where's all that conversation? >> i also want to talk about other initiatives you talked about and issues. one is that he said all hell will break out in the middle east if hostages being held in gaza are not released by his inauguration. do you think this type of rhetoric will work in moving hamas to a deal? >> well, all hell has broken out in the middle east, and that's been true for a very long time. if you look at the images in gaza, if you look at the fact that israelis are regularly being forced into bomb shelters, if you look at the state of lebanon, all hell has broken out. now. you know, he will be president on january 20th. and you know, it will be his responsibility to pick up

the agenda that president biden was pushing of trying to get this cease fire agreement done, the hostages released, and hopefully the conflict chilled considerably compared to where it is today. so look, you know, it's it's put up or shut up time. right. the guy got elected. the guy got elected on an economic message. shame on us democrats. who who didn't weren't persuasive enough economically. and here we are talking about all hell breaking loose in the middle east and renaming the gulf of mexico and taking greenland from the danish. where, where where's the economic message there? >> i certainly see your point about the economic message being a big driver for the election, but a lot of his supporters also just like that, he bucked tradition that he doesn't do what what others do that he's willing to, you know, to throw stuff out there that may be controversial. and, you know, he portrays himself as a negotiator and a businessman and a lot of his supporters, frankly, like that. a lot of his supporters, frankly, like what he threw out about, you know, renaming the gulf of mexico to the gulf of

america. >> i get that, i get that politics has become entertainment in this country. and by the way, i'll be the first to say that there are some apple carts that should be turned over. it takes me years to get a build a bridge built in connecticut. you know, we're not moving projects that are critical to the american people as fast as we should like. but at the end of the day, the business of government is very, very serious. you know what we do, pam? we do social security, we do medicare, and we have a military that's 80% of what the federal government does. each and every one of those things is absolutely essential to the security and the well-being of the american people. so, fine, if you want to spend a lot of time talking about an insane effort to retake greenland, that's entertaining. that's a lot of entertainment. but what we should be focused on is medicare and social security and the cost of chicken. so, look, he hasn't been inaugurated yet. maybe after january 20th, we'll get back to things that are real, that aren't just about entertainment and tiktok and instagram and will actually help the american people. >> well, you bring up tiktok, as you well know, donald trump

now is sort of changing his tune. he doesn't want to ban. there's going to be the supreme court, a supreme court hearing on tiktok friday. where do you stand now, given your role on the intelligence committee? >> sure. you know, i created some commotion around here by voting no on the tiktok ban for the following reasons, which is that it is inconceivable to me that the federal government would tell the free citizens of the united states, in whom we entrust things like electing the president, that you're not allowed to see this particular media outlet. so i feel fairly strongly about that. and, of course, as you point out, as the ranking member of intelligence, i'm pretty i'm pretty knowledgeable about what the threat is. and yes, the threat is there, but so is the threat for facebook and all other elements of social media. and so again, we need to remember that the first amendment and the freedom of the press and the protections around american citizens being able not being told by their federal government what information they can and can't see. that to me is core. so anyway, my fingers are crossed for a good decision in the supreme court, but we'll see in the next couple of weeks.

>> so it sounds like from what you know, from your role in the intelligence committee, that you don't believe the national security threat with tiktok outweighs, you know, the freedom of speech and and other, you know, benefits that could come from it. and i want to just follow up on that because you point out threats from facebook and other social media. just today, you heard mark zuckerberg come out and say that meta is going to take away fact checkers, and, you know, they're going to focus on community notes. they believe that fact checkers were too politically biased. are you concerned that that could amplify national security threats or concerns or misinformation on on those social media sites? >> of course, i'm concerned. you know, i live in an information environment. i have to listen to my constituents. and social media has taken what was a boring but important and real conversation about everything from, you know, ufos to taxes to what have you and turned it into entertainment and garbage. absolute garbage. the amount of time i spend as a member of congress swatting

down insane misinformation, i reflect on the costs of misinformation. the kaiser foundation suggests that there may be 200,000 americans dead of covid because they glommed on to vaccine skepticism or vaccine denial. this stuff carries very real costs. and yes, there is the potential that the chinese could use tiktok. they never have to try to manipulate our elections or to try to do anything else. there is that potential. but again, that's not, you know, if they want to get into facebook and get your personal information off of facebook or instagram, they're going to do that. so the question is, what do we do about social media generally in the context of the first amendment, because it has become 100% toxic to american political dialog. but i also suspect the psychological health of an awful lot of americans, particularly young ones. >> congressman jim himes, that's certainly an important topic that that last bit you just said, thank you so much. and we'll, of course, continue that conversation. we appreciate your time. thank you. and still ahead, more on those major changes at facebook that could reshape what appears on the platform. as

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symbolic to the man that he was throughout the course of his life, with the exception of what's about to happen here in the course of the next hour or so, when he lands here at joint base andrews, you will see something that is very traditional tracks with the same types of ceremonial elements that we saw when ronald reagan came back to washington for the state funeral, when george h.w. bush was brought from texas back to washington. the state funeral, in fact, the plane that jimmy carter's casket is on right now is the same exact plane that george h.w. bush used in his trip from texas to this airport here a few years ago. what you will see is the casket will be removed. there will be an honor guard that will be there, and you will immediately see a very symbolic elements of reverence for the office itself. you will see. hail to the chief. you will hear hail to the chief. you will see a 21 gun salute. there will be one carter esque element here. and that is the christian hymn of abide with me will be played as his family and the honor guard, procession and clergy make their way to the motorcade where the body will be placed

for that 45 minute journey. pamela into washington, d.c., and that once he makes that journey, will kind of integrate the personal nature of things. going to the naval memorial. then he will be transferred into a horse drawn caisson, where he'll be taken up pennsylvania avenue from the naval memorial to the capitol. it will be a representation of what he did, the first in history back in 1977. during his inauguration. stepping out of the motorcade and walking with his family down pennsylvania avenue for the inauguration. this time, he'll be going the other way to the capitol, where he'll lie in state. but pamela, throughout the course of this several day process, there will be six in total. we have seen so many elements of a man that for georgians, for those in plains, for those here in washington, certainly looked at as more than just a politician, more than just a president, and one that they certainly want to remember in the days ahead. >> certainly. phil mattingly, thank you so much. and just ahead on cnn news central, more on donald trump's wide ranging press conference, what he said about

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you multiply that by 625 million acres. it's like, feels like the whole ocean. it's called rain comes down from comes down from heaven. and they want to do no. no water comes out of the shower. it goes drip, drip, drip. we're going to be changing the name of the gulf of mexico to the gulf of america, which has a beautiful ring that windmills are driving. the whales crazy joining us now to discuss is t.w. >> faraji. he is a former aide to senator lindsey graham and mike pompeo. and he's also vice president at the push digital group. also with us is nomi kunst, a former surrogate for senator bernie sanders. t.w., i want to start with you on what trump said about not ruling out military force to try to take over the panama canal and greenland. what do you think? bluster, negotiating tactic, a

real threat. what's your view? >> i think it could be a negotiation tactic. i don't know. i haven't spoken to the president about it, but i want people to realize that the greenland conversation and panama is actually just good statecraft. could you imagine our posture toward russia, our defense posture, if we didn't have alaska or with china, if we didn't have guam? well, when we were going to acquire both those areas, you heard a lot of the same arguments you're hearing now about greenland. um, and, and panama. but i want to just say there are more people who live in casper, wyoming, than greenland, which is our least populous state. and the fact of the matter is, china and russia are licking their chops about making a move against greenland because the arctic is so vital for future trade routes, minerals, military. uh, it is very much in our national interest to buy it from denmark because they do not have the resources to keep china and russia at bay in the arctic. >> you say buy it from denmark, but as you just heard there, trump did not rule out using military force. and you do have to wonder. you bring up, you

know, russia, you bring up china, how they're viewing these comments and whether they view it as maybe a way to be emboldened when it comes to ukraine and taiwan. >> well, i'm not so sure about that. i know in the context of the arctic, which is going to be one of the major hot spots in the future, i do actually believe russia is bold enough to make a move at greenland, as the arctic ice shifts, you will see trade routes open up. mineral deposits are massive there, and denmark is not in a position to defend adequately against it. it's in our national interest to take control of it. >> naomi, to go to you on this. you know, you might think some of these things sound outlandish or unrealistic, but could some of them, some of this get support from democrats in congress? as you hear trump say time and time again, he is claiming a mandate to lead from the election. >> well, he didn't really win. >> by a mandate. >> i mean, the margins were very close. and we know what the numbers in congress are right now and how close that is. and so his mandate is very much reliant on congress, which

is not beholden to him. they're beholden to their voters, especially the senate. >> but, you know, when you look at a situation like the the what's happening with russia right now, they're stretched too thin. >> i don't see russia going into greenland anytime soon or to denmark when they can barely keep up the war in ukraine right now. >> and every other country they're trying to occupy in the caucasus region is not having it. with that being said, this was supposed to be an economic development speech, and all i heard was empire building. it was like the ghost of teddy roosevelt had come back and was speaking through, you know, donald trump and his crazy whale conspiracies and windmill conspiracies. if he really wants this to be an economic plan, he can't say things like, we're going to invest multi-billion dollars in data centers. but oh, by the way, it's going to be dubai that's paying for it, not the united states. if he wants this to be an economic plan and america first and to build our economy, then he needs to think about the jobs locally. he needs to talk about those electric vehicles that has really rebuilt much of

detroit and that region, the car industry. he needs to talk about strengthening unions. he needs to talk about what it means to invest in american jobs, not just putting the burden on taking over other countries and blaming mexico. you know, this is this is very creative positioning for him. but really what it does is it's just escalating tensions around the world by saying things like, we're going to take the panama canal back when it's, you know, we gave panama back by treaty in the late 1990s. treaties matter. you can't just violate international law and then say, you know, nato, we're so sick of spending money on nato. everybody else should pay for nato and increase the charges 5% in canada should be a state because we take care of them. but then you also want to take over other countries. so what are you, an empire or are you not? that's what i don't understand about donald trump's policies here. >> just to follow up with you, you know, when it comes to, for example, the 5% gdp and the nato countries having to pay more, i mean, you know, look, donald trump did talk about that in his first term, and he

did get nato countries to pay more. and, you know, his supporters might look at that and say they should be if the u.s. is paying what it is paying, you know, he should be putting the screws, tightening the screws on these other nato countries to pay more as well. what do you say to that? >> and they've taken that seriously. european countries met just recently to discuss this because they are afraid that donald trump will completely pull out of nato. so his negotiation tactic is not actually in the interest of western peace and global stability right now. it's in the interest, frankly, of russia and china. and, you know, european countries mostly know that they're so close to russia and they feel the repercussions right now. so they're doing what's in their best interest in investing more money. but the reality is, is that our national security depends on nato as well. and he's not acting on behalf of of western democracies right now. >> i want to get your response to that. and also just the argument. i heard it from congressman himes as well, the democrat that, you know, look,

he won the election because of the economy is what he argued. and we heard very little about that and how he's going to improve americans economic lives. what do you say? >> i thought i heard a lot about it. it started with a ceo who's bringing billions of dollars into this country, and i'm sure you'll be seeing more of it. he talked about deregulation to make products cheaper for americans and more efficient for americans. he talked about oil exploration to bring fuel costs down, which will lower prices across the country. those are all economic messages. and i want to make one more point about panama because it didn't come up. i don't think we appreciate enough that china has a chokehold on the most important shipping route on the planet. that is so insanely important for us. and if we believe the panamanians can handle it. all right. i would like to see the evidence of that. i think it is in our interest. and teddy roosevelt did a tremendous thing building one of the wonders of the world. it's a tremendous american accomplishment, and we ought to take some ownership of that. and i don't. and by the

way, that also bleeds into our economy. if china starts screwing around with the panama canal, expect prices to skyrocket and our economy to crater. >> t.w. naomi, thank you so much. and just ahead, breaking news on another one of donald trump's legal cases as an appeals court judge rules on the president elect's request to delay his sentencing on friday. and the hush money case. that's next. >> when you're the leader. a disaster cleanup and restoration. how do you make like it never even happened, happen? fire it up, randy. >> yeah. by being prepared for anything. >> whatever comes your way, there's a pro for that. >> servpro. >> like it never even happened. there.

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