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breaking news. nearly 180,000 residents in los angeles county are now under evacuation orders, as five wildfires are still raging. entire communities already in ruins. according to the latest update, the two most destructive fires, the eaton and the palisades fires, are 0% contained. together, they have torched nearly 28,000 acres. they've destroyed thousands of structures. look at these homes here. aerial footage showing just an apocalyptic scene. entire neighborhoods wiped out. homes, schools, grocery stores, gas stations, all gone. the l.a. fire chief calling the. palisades. pardon me. fire! quote. one of the most destructive natural disasters in the history of los angeles. at least five people are dead. but the sheriff warns that number could grow. >> at one point, we'll be able to do a more thorough search of these impacted areas. some of them look like a bomb was dropped in them, where we will

be able to bring in canines and other things to help us. uh, hopefully not discover too many fatalities. that's our prayer. but this is a crisis and we don't know what to expect. but we're ready for everything. so be patient with us. when you ask us about death toll numbers right now, frankly, we don't know yet. >> cnn's julia vargas is near the eaton fire in altadena, california, where officials say at least five people have died. julia, how are things looking there now? >> brianna, that bomb analogy, it's quite right. look, this is the kind of scene that we're seeing everywhere in altadena. just a whole block of destroyed homes. just leveled. there's gas lines still burning. that's what we've been seeing over and over here. like 180,000 people displaced. that is huge. what an impact it has in these

communities. and all the way down. i'm not sure how far you can see, but these downed power lines, this is what people are going to come back to. we just passed. we've been moving around trying to see more and more of these neighborhoods throughout the day to get you some more reporting, and we've seen residents trying to come back, but authorities basically saying that you can't yet it's too dangerous. it's too soon. 180,000 people displaced. we also have 200 something households, 215,000 households without power, because about half of those have been turned off. because officials are concerned about what that could mean for sparking further fires. we're hearing from meteorologists that there could be more winds coming tonight and through the weekend, and that could spread this fire further, even though for now it has stopped growing. but that is after it has damaged about 1000 structures and put a lot more at risk. and all of those people that are

still without a place to go, yes, we can think about all of the logistical challenges that are coming in the coming days, brianna. people are going to want to come home. they're going to want to come back to the los angeles area. and the infrastructure is going to be overwhelmed because it is already we are hearing from city officials that the power, water. >> you talked earlier about the water issues that the city is having. >> that's just because there's so much demand. people need to have water to fight this fire, and yet it's just not getting to them at times. so many challenges that these officials are now facing and might face again in the coming days. >> all right. julia vargas jones with the latest from altadena. thank you for that, boris. >> these fires have been supercharged by some of the strongest santa ana winds on record, at times gusting up to 100 miles an hour. cal fire battalion chief brent pascua

says it was like fighting a fire inside a hurricane. he joins us now live. sir, thank you so much for being with us. i understand that the winds, at least for the last few hours, have died down somewhat. do you have an update on how much of the fires have been contained at this point? >> we don't have any new containment numbers, but this welcomed break in the winds is going to allow us to get that number to come up to at least get some containment on this fire, because the last two days with those strong winds, 80 mile an hour winds, there was just nowhere to anchor in and start putting this fire out. it was just trying to save lives. >> and on that work of trying to save lives, i know one of the difficult tasks that firefighters have in situations like this, as certain areas that have been inaccessible become accessible, is finding folks that maybe did not get out. i wonder if you have any update for us on the death

toll. >> i don't have any reports right now. nothing official. our damage inspection teams have just arrived on scene yesterday to to go in and sift through the damage, and nothing official as of now. >> we are glad to hear that at least the numbers appear to be holding where they are, even though it is anticipated that they may climb. i do wonder, sir, much has been made about the $17 million budget. cut to the l.a. fire department last summer. how much have resources been a problem for you? do you have what you need to fight these fires? >> well, i'm not sure exactly what the numbers and the budget cut, but i know when we requested resources, we got them. they were in route. they're on the road. they're here now. there's still more coming. so i haven't had any effect as far as we. we couldn't get anything because of a budget cut, but we're getting what we need. i know that for sure. >> so what would you say are

the biggest challenges that you're facing specifically in some of these areas that have 0% containment? >> the number one was the wind, and the wind was just different. on the santa ana event. we fought fire before during santa ana's, and we've been able to control those fires. the winds this time were almost double what we're used to or what we've seen in the past. so again, once the winds stop, like today, this welcome relief, it's been nice. we've been able to get all all of our aviation assets up in the air, start dropping water, working with the ground troops. that coordinated effect is really going to make a difference. >> yeah, that makes a huge difference. i do wonder i was speaking with a meteorologist last hour who explained that over the next few days, especially going into the weekend, they do expect the winds to pick up again. how do your teams prepare for something like that? >> yeah, so what we're doing is we're getting as much done as we can right now while the wind is on our side. we do know that

they're expected to come back. so it's going to be all hands on deck. once again, we're prepared to fight this fire. battle this fire. i know a lot of our firefighters are exhausted, but they want to they want to make sure that the buildings and houses that are standing are still standing when they're done. >> we are so grateful for their work and candidly, just impressed by the kind of motor that some of these crews have to just keep going hour after hour. there was something that l.a. mayor karen bass said that caught my attention, that i was curious to get your perspective on. she was talking about fire hydrants not being constructed to deal with this type of massive devastation. that was after some fire hydrants apparently had run dry in an area of the palisades. is that something you may plan to reevaluate once these fires are under control? >> there's definitely going to be some learning lessons. just like every fire, we go back, we figure out what could have been done different, what could have

been done better. if we find there was something an issue with those, we will address it and make it better. speaking to the crews that that i spoke to that came in here, they had water pressure. it might have dropped at the height of the fight a little bit, but they said they had water the whole time. so good news on this side. >> yeah, that is welcome news. brent pascua we have to leave the conversation there. thank you so much for everything you do. >> you're welcome. thank you. >> we still have much more on the l.a. wildfires ahead. stay with cnn. >> had just come from my family home where my mother lives. that was burned to a crisp. so that was the initial shock value. and then i came up to my home. and same thing. it's completely dust. i mean, i was down to my knees when i got up to my parents house with just sheer, um, amazement at what i was, what i was looking at, which was basically just a chimney stack and a pile of ash. i mean, it's something out

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at this time lapse video that shows you what the santa ana winds can do. whipping up to 80 miles an hour. these gusts then fuel embers and absolutely devour an entire neighborhood in topanga canyon in just about three hours. we have cnn meteorologist chad myers joining us now. and, chad, the national weather service just said that strong gusts of wind will soon be picking up again. what are you seeing in the forecast? right. >> you know, i could see a 40, maybe a 45 mile per hour gust, and it's still better. i think we've always been talking about better. yes. better than 80. better than 90 or 100. like we had during the true firestorm. but there will be gusty winds today making it difficult for those air drops to actually hit the location that they're trying to drop. here's what we're talking about for this afternoon. this is about two hours from now l.a. proper, around 34 mile per hour. gusts not sustained but gusts. and i don't believe that they'll be high enough that they have to

ground the helicopters altogether. they'll still be making drops. but when you see the water come out of the bottom of the helicopter, it just turns to mist. it's not this big dump of water like they really like. now, tomorrow is a much better day, without a doubt. especially tomorrow night will be down into the single digits when it comes to wind speed. but here's how all of this happens. high pressure up near utah. low pressure down near baja. and because they're so close together, the winds funnel. the wind is caused by the difference in pressure between one location and another. and those winds funneled through the valleys over the mountains and down fanning the blaze. now, there was also something else that was going on to get this many fires and this many places. there's been a drought, a significant drought in southern california for the water year. they should have about four inches of rainfall at this point in time. they've had none. the last time they had an inch of rain was in march of 2024. when you get that type of drought in this type of wind and you get a spark, you're going to get wildfires. normally we get them in between

the wildland urban interface, which there's a house here and there, that they can protect. this wasn't a house by house. this was rows and rows of homes right next to each other. each setting each other on fire. so yes, the wind dies down tomorrow and the humidity comes back a little bit. that's helpful. doesn't seem helpful, but it is. and because the wind is going to be dying off, we lose the inversion. we're going to lose some of this bad air quality as well. some of it will mix out and the air will be better to breathe tomorrow as well. boris. >> yeah, i'm sure firefighters are looking forward to that window of time to try to get as much of this contained as possible. chad myers, live from the weather center. thank you so much, brianna. >> some of california's best defenses in this disaster. really any state's best defenses are those specialized aircraft that can drop this, its flame retardant. also, water on areas that firefighters on the ground cannot reach. cnn aviation correspondent pete muntean is here also. it's just so much

water and you can't haul that in. if you're there, you're there to dig line. if you're a wildland firefighter, to be clear here. so this is key. do we know about the winds and what they're doing to hinder this? >> the winds are subsiding enough for them to get airplanes and helicopters in the air, which is so critical to this. just check the flight trackers. aerial firefighting aircraft in the air right now. mostly helicopters working in an area near topanga that's just northwest of pacific palisades. the conditions have been really extreme, with howling winds hampering the aerial firefighting work. but the good news is winds are subsiding enough because the air tankers are critical to attacking out of control wildfires. wildfires like this. the red retardant they drop is a slurry mostly made of phosphorus. and crews drop it around the edge of a fire to beat it back, giving firefighters on the ground a chance of putting it out. at the center of all this is the california department of forestry and fire protection, known as cal fire. it is 31 helicopters and six tankers on the case right now. and i want you to listen to captain steve kelly, who tuesday and

wednesday made eight drops from a c-130 totaling 32,000 gallons of fire retardant. >> off. very turbulent, very windy. we were looking at probably 30 to 50 mile an hour winds down in those drainages that we had to contend with while also doing our job, which is difficult in itself. >> really hard to fly an airplane that big down so low to the ground. he flies the c-130 growing part of the calfire fleet, but the backbone is really the s-2t. just last night, some of the dc ten retired airliner tankers arrived in southern california. one drop of those from those is equivalent to a dozen drops from an s-2. so 9400 gallons of retardant dropped in a path 300ft wide over the course of a mile. the rub there is it takes some time to refill those planes. aerial firefighting crews from quebec and british columbia and canada have been on the front lines. this is some of the new video, and some have asked why, with water

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just better, boris, to show you where we are. this is altadena. this is a foothill community. if you're familiar with pasadena, they have the rose bowl. this is a neighborhood just nearby. and the emphasis here needs to be on neighborhood, because each one of these piles of rubbish that you're looking at, and you can still see that there's, you know, hotspots, fires burning across this region. each one of these plots is a home, and these are some of the larger homes in altadena. my knowledge of this place comes because i live close to here. five minute drive. what you have here are some of the bigger homes. the four five bedroom homes. but this is a neighborhood that's generally middle class. a lot of teachers live here because it's a slightly more affordable. a lot of people who bought here many years ago, many retired and older folks, but this is what they have to deal with. now, if you sweep across, i'm going to have

lionel mendez just take a sweep across this area. it is completely gone. there are entire sections of altadena that look like a bomb was dropped on it. that fire that you're looking at, it's what you saw last hour, boris. it's still smoldering. that was started by an ember. so that homeowner thought, hey, their house made it out. it it simply went up in flames. today. what we're seeing is firefighters who are exhausted, who have been working this line, you know, for for hours upon hours, they are still having to deal with active fire. so here in altadena, this fire is 10,000 acres, a little in between 10,000 to 11,000 acres. it is still burning out of control. 0% containment. the fire really has pushed into those hills over there. but they're also in this community once. and if they can get through to access their homes, they're dealing with, um. and i'm sorry, lionel, to make you

do this, but you can see the sun over there. you see how hazy it is? the air quality here is horrendous. it is everything that that went up that you're seeing that is now just rubble. all of that. you know, a lot of older homes, asbestos, the chemicals, the plaster that is plastic that is burning unabated in this area. so it's also an air quality emergency. so this entire area is being touched in some way, whether it's a homeowner not having any place to live to, you know, people trying to figure out what to do with this air. boris. >> yeah, that air pollution, just one of many lingering effects caused by these fires. i do wonder, kyung, you mentioned that you live roughly five minutes away. how are you and your loved ones doing? >> um, so i, i stayed at an evacuated home with our friends who live here in altadena, and the reality is, and again, i

just want to show you, like, here's a, here's a fire truck going through. a lot of them aren't quite sure if their house is standing. they can't get through some of these lines. they live either further up into the foothills, or they just don't have any information yet. and they might be in san diego, or they might be further north. our friends are really just unsure how to handle it all. all of our kids in this region don't have school. a lot of their teachers lost their homes and there is no power across this area. for a lot of the immediate close regions. so it's almost as if you're living in suspended reality. and the kids, um, the kids are crying out of control. i don't i don't really know how else to explain it. it's very difficult for children to comprehend what is happening, and i want to stress there are a lot of children being

impacted. there are so many kids i personally know who had to evacuate or lost homes, and they just don't understand or know how to deal with it. >> yeah, it's tough to process even some of the images that we're seeing, let alone living it the way that you are. kyung lah, appreciate your reporting. as always. thanks so much. >> you bet. brianna. >> while wildfires are certainly not uncommon in california, just the scale of this disaster, that unfolding is unfolding right now is unprecedented. our next guest rushed to save his elderly parents from their pacific palisades home. ramis adria is with us now from los angeles. he's also the chairman of the malibu pacific palisades chamber of commerce. ramis i'm so sorry for what you and your family are going through, but as i have said to the people that we are speaking to, it's so great to talk to you and that you are all right and that you've gotten your loved ones. can you tell us what it was like

evacuating your parents from the fire, which is from your childhood home? >> thank you for having me. uh, and to share my story. um, basically, uh. computer ogy consultant. and i go home tois y hometown of pacific palisades. uh, i was at a client's way outside of the palisades doing some work. and then my next client had called me who was in the palisades saying, we're going to need to cancel appointment. they're evacuating us. and that's all the information she gave me because i had no idea. and as soon as i hung up with her, uh, the citizen app on my phone basically said, there is a fire in the palisades that's raging and you need to evacuate. and so i called my wife. i said, look, i got to go get my parents because my father suffered from a stroke a few years back. he's immobile. and

my mother, uh, she doesn't drive. so i was the only source of transportation. so i rushed over there. um, it was a challenge getting there because there was bumper to bumper traffic. uh, the police wouldn't let me up. um, so i had to find a side street. and luckily, i got to them and, uh, immediately just basically put them in the car, grabbed a few belongings. um, cash and et cetera. and the process of taking them out was even harder than getting to them because we were in a gridlock. it was just it was just pandemonium. people, the firefighters did not really know how to control traffic. the police weren't really there. there. they did make a presence. finally, while we were sitting with fire on both sides of us along sunset boulevard, the street that i have taken millions of times. um, and, uh, fortunately,

before they brought over the bulldozer to push these cars away, i think we missed it by 15 minutes. we were able to make a u-turn because everyone behind me backed off and i was the last car, so i turned around as well and took a side street to pch or pacific coast highway. yeah. um, but we're still in a state of shock right now. uh, my parents are staying at my house. i'm not in the palisades. fortunately for all of us. but, um, just watching these videos, watching the news, and seeing the town that i grew up in, the high school that i went to, the elementary school that i went to, they're all burned. um, i mean, it's unrecognizable. it's like the worst nightmare that you can have. uh, it's like a set at universal studios. it's just unbelievable. >> and ramis, as you're describing your exit, we've

talked to other residents who did not have as difficult a time exiting the palisades, but it sounds like it really depends on which of the exits you took, you know? and how were you to know which one? because it sounds like you were on that particular exit. that was in very dire situation, and you didn't know it until you got there. >> well, as a as a consultant that drives home to home in the palisades, i know the streets a lot better than i did as a child, and i knew of this one street, side street that goes by the bel-air bay club, uh, into pacific coast highway. so i said to my parents, you know what? we're going to go to this street and fortunately, the other cars, there were other cars that knew about this. so we were orderly going down. and there was a police presence right at the bottom of the hill, right on pacific coast highway, directing us out. so, uh, it i

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clerks. however, it is quite rare for that conversation to go all the way to a president, and the timing of it has certainly raised eyebrows because, as you said, the day after donald trump asked the supreme court to intervene on his behalf to block a new york court from punishing him in response to his hush money case. now, alito says that he had no understanding that that was coming. telling cnn in a statement, quote, we did not discuss the emergency application he filed today. and indeed, i was not even aware at the time of our conversation that such an application would be filed. already we have seen some house republicans coming out in support of alito and trump. take a listen to what house republican tony gonzales told us yesterday. >> i do think it's appropriate. >> he is the incoming president. he's a former president, and he's very soon, he's going to be the current president. >> so i think to me, it's a positive thing that president trump is meeting with the senate, that he's meeting with the house, that he's willing to

have conversations with the supreme court boris gonzalez went on to say that he did not believe that alito should have to step away or recuse himself from the case involving trump. >> notably, though, steve, this isn't the first time that justice alito has faced questions ethical questions involving the president elect. >> that's correct. this court has certainly been facing critism aboupoliticalizatio n, and alito has not escaped that. he was the subject of controversy last year for some flags that he flew at his residence at north, excuse me, in new jersey and in virginia, in fact, the one in virginia was an upside down american flag that he flew in january of 2021. that was obviously at the time when the former president was leaving office, and just ahead of when the insurrection took place on capitol hill. >> steve contorno live for us from west palm beach, florida.

thank you so much for the update, steve. special air mission 39. the flight carrying the remains of the 39th president jimmy carter, is expected to arrive in georgia in the coming hours after today's state funeral in washington, president biden and former presidents obama, bush and clinton all attended this service at the national cathedral, along with president elect trump, vice president kamala harris and former vice president mike pence. >> al gore and dan quayle were also there, and it was hard, really, if you were watching, to ignore the apparent tension. take this moment, for instance. you see pence and trump meeting for the first time in four years and shaking hands. but pence's wife, the former second lady karen pence, does not stand up and seems to ignore the president elect entirely. cnn's tom foreman joins us. tom, it's awkward, but i was thinking about it. and i thought that day in the capitol, it wasn't just pence. it was one of their children who was there and in danger.

and i think that's some context that's important. if you are karen pence, a mother and a wife. sure, sure. >> and if you look at donald trump's presence at this funeral and the way he was regarded by almost everyone there, you get a sense of how awkward this was. he was seated in the second row down on the end. last presidential funeral was back when george h.w. bush, well, he was president. then he got to sit right up front in the main seat. now he's in the second row. he's just in front of pence. he's behind kamala harris. he was bending barack obama's ear much of the time, but pretty much no one else there spent any time really talking to him. and when kamala harris came in, she sort of looked right past him and he sat there, seemingly sort of staring daggers at her for a moment. but then he was back to being in the back row there, and it was just a really interesting thing to see. another interesting thing, though, is think about also what was donald trump was enduring today. i'm sure

that's how he sees it. he was being told about jimmy carter's record and many of these things directly impinge upon what trump says he is going to do. for example, jimmy carter was the guy who oversaw the return of the panama canal to the panamanian people and said this was an important and worthwhile thing to do. this is something that trump has suggested. he wants to take the panama canal back. jimmy carter was praised for his respect for human rights and the decency of people out there, and how self-importance was not a big deal. character was brought up over and over again. you have to have high quality character. donald trump has criticized everybody there and said that, you know, said, oh, they're in a sense bad people, you know, and many people have raised questions about his character over that. jimmy carter's environmental record

>> at trump. so a really interesting experience from launch attention, they didn't really notice any tension. what do you mean? i did notice there was a moment between former president bush and former president obama. >> the two of them are very familiar. you see the sort of belly pat we know about former president bush's relationship with michelle obama, who noticeably was not there. what can you tell us about the relationship between him and barack obama? you know what i think you see there? >> what you see there is, first of all, it's a little bit, uh, george w bush's personality. that's just a little bit the way bro in chief. >> yeah, yeah, a little bit. yeah. right, right. >> but also, what you see there is the community of respect and care among former presidents who very often, most often find ways to say we can

be together. a lot of people don't know, but jimmy carter and gerald ford were fast friends. i talked to jimmy carter about this numerous times. i talked to gerald ford about this. they talked to each other almost every single day, and they disagreed politically, but they respected each other. what you see there is the community of former presidents who say, for all of our egos and they've all got them, the country comes first. that comes above ego. and i think it's safe to say most of them don't believe that about donald trump. and that makes him the odd man out. >> i could talk about this for hours. i want to lip reader. i want all the things. >> it's all armchair psychology. we may all be wrong, but it was hard to look at it and not see him at the end of the aisle, sitting over there, bending obama's ear, and everyone else just kind of ignoring him. >> tom foreman, thank you so much. never will ignore you, my friend. >> you certainly can. >> it won't bother me. so we,

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respers france is with us. lisa, this is huge. it's really hitting an industry where consistent paychecks are already not guaranteed. >> absolutely correct. you know, los angeles is an industry town. so even if you're not an actor or a producer or a writer, you're usually connected in some type of way to hollywood. and we have to keep in mind that the industry was already kind of struggling to get back on its feet after the strikes, the writers strike and the actors strikes in 2023, which you would think afterwards that hollywood would come just racing back. but that actually didn't happen. you had a lot of productions that were either canceled or postponed. we've seen studios have a ton of layoffs, so the industry was already kind of struggling. and then to have something like this happen, it's completely devastating and also shows that it does not matter how much money you have, fame and fortune does not matter when something like this occurs. people have lost entire communities and we're hearing

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