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morning. saturday, january 11th. good to have you along. i'm victor blackwell. >> happy new year. it's good to have you back. >> yes, it's been two weeks. >> good to see you. it has been two weeks. i've been counting. i'm amara walker. thank you so much for being with us this morning. we are tracking the latest developments out of california, where devastating wildfires are blamed for at least 11 deaths so far. you're looking at brand new video taken early this morning over los angeles county, where the palisades fire rages on and it is quickly moving east. it is one of at least six major wildfires torching southern california. it's barely contained, but some of the smaller fires are nearly out. in all, nearly 36,000 acres have burned, more than twice the size of manhattan. red flag warnings for high winds did expire last night, so firefighters say they hope to make

more progress soon. >> then we're just dealing with normal red flag conditions, which is totally different than the monstrosity that we've been dealing with. we have all the units in place. we've got over 3000 firefighters on this fire. we've got over 350 engines, 54 crew busses, helicopters, dozers. we've got the world out here working on this. >> the los angeles fire chief told cnn's jake tapper the city failed her department when it slashed the budget by $17 million this past summer. >> we have over 100 fire apparatus out of service, and having these apparatus in the proper amount of mechanics would have helped. and so it did absolutely negatively impact. i want to also be clear that i have, over the last three years, been been clear that the fire department needs help. we can no longer sustain where we are. we do not have enough firefighters. >> a source tells cnn. l.a. mayor karen bass has met with

the fire chief. >> new details are emerging about the victims. eric nickerson lost his father, rodney, who lived in altadena. he told cnn's erin burnett he can remember every single word of their final conversation on tuesday morning. >> it was a normal conversation, like most mornings, you know, i'm sitting at work. yeah, a good coworker of mine, sean donahue, and i'm talking about football and asking dad who he likes and how are you doing, how you feel? yeah. and, dad, i love you. i'll talk to you later. and before we hung up, he said, son, the winds are picking up really, really bad. i said, dad, i talked to you later, and sometimes i'll talk to him later, and then sometimes i'll talk to him the next morning. but that night i didn't talk to him. that night i talked to him. i tried to talk to him the next morning, and the next morning i couldn't talk to my dad. >> this is a tragedy that will continue to grow. fire officials say it's not safe enough to assess the true

number of deaths in these fires. and new this morning, ucla is asking its students to be ready to evacuate the campus at any time. they stress that there are no evacuation orders at this moment, but the fire has crept closer to campus, so students should be ready to leave if ordered. joining us now from pacific palisades. cnn's maribel gonzalez. mayor bill, what are you seeing there this morning? >> good morning. victor and amara. well, the devastation is just so widespread here in pacific palisades. more than 100,000 people have been asked to leave their homes. this is an evacuation zone where we're standing. many all of them are not able to return to their neighborhoods. but when they do, this is will what they will have to face. i just want to show you what we're seeing on the ground behind us. you can see what used to be a home, but now it's just been reduced to rubble, ashes and debris. and

that's not just the homes on the street. we're seeing cars that were left when people were rushing to evacuate to safety, abandoned on the side of the road. some of them, like the one you're seeing behind us, completely charred. this is the reality for so many blocks of this once picturesque neighborhood. we saw this in the downtown area as well. businesses, their shops there, burning to the ground in the overnight hours. you know, this is just so devastating to see. but we know that it's been all hands on deck. we know canada as well as mexico, has been sending firefighters to help local crews here combat these fires. unfortunately, you know, here in pacific palisades, the fire here, which is the largest one, is only at 8% contained. so officials say this is far from over. >> yeah, clearly a long ways to go. maribel gonzalez, thank you very much for your reporting. president biden has pledged that federal resources will be

available for the people of california. cnn's betsy klein is joining us now from the white house. betsy, what are you hearing from president biden? >> well, amara, president biden and vice president harris are staying in washington this weekend where they will where they will continue to receive briefings from their team on the state of this federal response. and you may know that president biden was scheduled to be in rome this weekend, meeting with the pope as well as ukraine's president zelenskyy and other italian officials and vice president harris, for her part, was set to kick off an international tour starting in singapore with stops in bahrain and germany. both of those trips canceled as they continue to monitor that federal response. and this hits quite close to home, literally, for vice president harris, whose los angeles residence is within that evacuation zone, continues to be as of this morning. now, i want to get into the federal response. it is twofold as of right now. number one, help stop these fires from spreading and put them out. number two, help those who have been impacted in their recovery. and i just want

to take you through a little bit of the federal response right now. president biden has directed the federal government to cover 100% of the state's costs for 180 days, that he has also authorized a fema program that gives victims $770 to help kick start their recovery. that includes immediate needs for things like water, gas, baby formula. the department of defense has also deployed air tankers to help with firefighting helicopters, as well as military personnel. now, president biden has vowed that the federal government will be there as long as it takes. but i just want to note the timing here. he leaves office just nine days from now, handing over the keys of the federal government to president elect trump. and this is going to be a very lengthy recovery and response effort. here's what he had to say. >> we're going to make sure california has every possible resource to fight these fires and help survivors. this is not going to be over even when all the fires are out. it's just going to

be beginning. and the change in insurance policy in california for these modest homes, as well as these very expensive homes and businesses. so we're going to be around for a long while ago to help the federal government and the mayor as well. >> now, i asked president biden earlier this week if he could guarantee that california would get the aid they needed in the next administration. he said he was unable to answer that question. but this is going to be a very complex recovery process touching all parts of the federal government. so a lot of questions about how president-elect donald trump will handle all of that. for now, president biden says that he is keeping trump's team briefed on every step of the response. so when they take over the keys to the federal government just a few days from now, they're ready to hit the ground running. >> back to you, betsy klein, for us at the white house. betsy, thanks so much. we're joined now by battalion chief brent pascua from california's department of forestry and fire protection, also known as cal fire. chief, good morning to you. let's start with progress.

overnight, the largest fires palisades fire 8% contained eaton fire, 3% contained at the latest. the latest numbers we have from last night. do those numbers still hold? talk to us about progress over overnight. >> they do still hold. we're still at 8%. hopefully we'll see that number change this morning when the sun comes up and we get to see just the total, the the total, um, amount of line that was put in overnight and the work that was done yesterday. uh, good news is the winds are still calm here. um, we do have a firefight still on our hands, though, so we're still engaged in a lot of work to do. >> do you feel like you have all the resources that you need? and i'm asking you this because i'm sure you've heard some of the criticisms that, you know, have been going around, especially regarding the budget cuts. you know, the l.a. fire chief saying that she is understaffed and and under-resourced. and of course, the question about those hydrants that ran dry early on in the firefight, do you have

everything that you need? >> yes. so as far as resources, right now, we have everything we need. um, all of our resources, our, our crews that were here the first day are finally getting some rest on this fire. the first couple days, uh, the fire just was moving so fast we could have used. we could always use more resources in. we could have used one engine at every house. um, so it's hard to tell what kind of difference if everyone would have been here waiting for the fire to happen, that would have made. especially with those winds. as far as the hydrants, my crews, uh, we were we didn't experience any dry hydrants. should i say. i don't know if we were lucky enough or or what, but during the height of the fire, we just lost a little bit of pressure. and i think that's to be expected when we, a whole town has every hydrant almost opened. uh, but we never lost water. and we stayed in the fight.

>> yeah, i saw that the palisades fire last report was approaching the brentwood neighborhood again. that was last evening's update. has it gotten closer to that neighborhood? are there any additional additional evacuations? talk to us about that edge of the palisades fire. >> yes. i've moved over to that side of the fire. it's the northeast section of the fire. um, it is not driven by winds anymore. it's found the slope, the topography and the dry brush over on that side of the fire. so it's making runs up the canyon. we're expecting, uh, to hit the top of the ridge where we're there to meet it with aircraft, which we've been able to fly all night to keep the fire in check. and then also we have a surge of engines on that side of the fire as well to meet it there. >> i understand you have a long standing relationship with various canadian provinces, including british columbia, which has specialized tech staff. can you talk a little bit about that? and some of these specialized units that are helping yeah.

>> so the super scoopers are a great example of that. um, and, and they can get water right out of the ocean. so i've been watching them with a quick turnaround, getting water out of the ocean, dumping it right on the fire. um, also our aircraft that we are using, thanks to the winds being nice and calm, have a reservoir right next to the fire that they've been using. so again, a very quick turnaround. um, and yeah, those super scoopers, they help tremendously. >> mhm. >> um, let's talk about you've mentioned several times the winds because i've heard you describe those first two days as something you'd never seen before, 80 miles an hour. and it would have been nearly impossible for any fire crew to control what was being driven by those winds. as they've calmed down and you look ahead across the next 12 hours or so, what do you expect and what progress do you expect you can make on not just the two biggest fires, but the others that are still burning? >> i expect that our progress is going to keep moving in the right direction. we're going to keep building containment. we're going to keep getting a

handle on this fire, keeping it within its perimeter. uh, you're right. those first two days of the fire, trees were being blown over. i saw roofs being ripped off of sheds, and those weren't even on fire yet. so, um, again, it was like fighting fire in a hurricane. these normal santa ana's were used to fighting fire in that they're expecting the next couple of days. so we're we're staying cautiously optimistic with that forecast. >> well, we do hope for the best and that you all can make as much progress as possible. chief brent pascua, thank you for what you do and for for joining us this morning. all the best to you. thank you. you you're welcome. well, this morning, as you heard, strong winds are expected to pick up making firefighters work even more difficult. and you can hear just how strong the santa ana winds were. earlier this week. the high winds helped these fires just explode. and of course, trees topple as well. as you heard there from brent pascua. cnn meteorologist allison chinchar is here now. today's winds are

not expected to be that bad, but they're expected to pick up later. >> yeah, i mean, you're talking real narrow window here of opportunity for those firefighters. we are expecting them to pick back up as we go into the evening tonight. so there's not much of a window here, but they need to take advantage of it and they're happy to have it. when you look at the forecast here again, you've got both today and tomorrow where we've got that critical fire threat ongoing. you can see in a lot of places it's the same ones where they're dealing with the ongoing fires. we've got a lot of them to talk about. you look at some of the containment numbers. some of those have come up in the last 24 hours because we saw those winds die back down a little bit late in the day friday. they will stay that way through the early morning hours today. but notice, once we get into tonight, we start to see those numbers ticking back up again. and especially as we head into sunday. now we're starting to talk about those wind gusts 40, 50, 60mph yet again in some of these locations. then another brief lull late into the day on monday before it

ramps back up monday night and into tuesday. now, another thing to point out, too, is all of that smoke that's in the air. a lot of times when the wind calms back down, it doesn't clear out the smoke. in fact, it just kind of sits there because there's no wind to move it around. so for a lot of folks, it can actually get worse. the air quality that means for a lot of folks in these areas where that smoke just sits there. so you have the air quality alerts, again, not just in l.a. proper, but a lot of the surrounding areas, and that's likely to stay the same, not just today, but also into sunday. you can see a lot of that smoke plume. it will continue to change directions as the wind also changes direction. so that's a component. you have to kind of keep an eye out for. the weather service is emphasizing again, we've got these very strong winds. you've got the dry fuel but there's not one but two separate events. so that's the other thing. it's the two periods. the one that begins late today. really tonight in through sunday. and then the secondary one late monday. and that will continue all the way into wednesday. so several things to keep an eye on. the red flag warnings as well, in effect, not just

today. those are likely to continue tomorrow. keep in mind too, when direction is important, because if it changes victor and amara at a moment's notice, that can entirely change the firefighters plan of action. and then they have to hurry up and come up with a new one. because the wind began to shift their fire evacuation warnings to a lot of elements out on the west coast, a lot of elements. >> allison chinchar, thanks so much. thank you. and listen, i know you watch the stories and listen to the people talk about losing everything, and you wonder what can you do? well, you can help the people impacted by these devastating wildfires. just visit cnn.com. slash impact for ways on how you can help. >> well, there are breaking new developments this morning in the deadliest plane crash in nearly three decades in south korea. the new setback for investigators trying to piece it all together as the head, plus the future of one of the most popular apps in the world, is now in the hands of the u.s. supreme court. >> how the ban on tiktok would work for the 170 million

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the economy added a surprising 256,000 jobs in december. the unemployment rate ticked down to 4.1%. the president praised his administration's economic efforts. he said that they've created more new jobs than any other single presidential term in history. investigators say that both of the flight recorders from that south korean passenger jet that crashed last month stopped working just four minutes before the accident. the plane crashed and exploded while attempting a runway landing. 179 people were killed. two crew members survived. investigators had hoped the black boxes would have shed some light into south korea's deadliest plane accident in nearly three decades. in a statement, south korea's transport minister said that it was unclear why the devices stopped working and they're currently trying to figure out a cause. >> a ban on tiktok may now be closer than ever. the supreme court heard oral arguments friday over the law that would ban tiktok in the u.s. unless

it's unless its china based parent company, bytedance, sells it. the hearing did not seem to go well for tiktok, with most of the justices appearing to side with the government. chief justice roberts suggested the ban doesn't fall under first amendment protections, citing that the law essentially is banning tiktok from doing business with a foreign adversary. cnn's clare duffy joining me now with more on this. good morning, clare, before we talk about, you know, what this potential tiktok ban will mean for the 170 million users. walk us through those two hours of oral arguments and the takeaways there, because it seems to come down to the first amendment versus, um, a national security. >> yeah, amara, it really did not seem to go well for tiktok yesterday. yesterday, the justices seemed very skeptical of tiktok's argument here that this law violates the first amendment, or that the first amendment would even apply in this case. instead, they seem to really much more aligned with the government's concerns here that this app is could

potentially be controlled by china, be forced to hand over u.s. user data to china, or manipulate the algorithm to spread chinese propaganda. the justices seemed much more prepared to accept that argument than tiktok's argument here, and that would align with what we know the court has done in the past. right? the court tends to defer on national security issues to other branches of government, so this wouldn't be a total surprise. but it does feel like tiktok is closer than ever to being banned in just a few days. >> so if the supreme court does indeed uphold the tiktok ban, then what would this mean for all the users out there and the app? would they be able to continue using the app? >> yeah, it's a good question, and we don't exactly know because the government has never tried to ban such a major social media platform before, and a lot will depend on how the government decides to try to enforce this law. but what we expect is that they'll go to the app stores. think apple, google and force them to remove tiktok from their platforms. what that would mean is that

new tiktok users, if you don't already have it on your phone, you won't be able to download it. if you do already have tiktok on your phone, it's not just going to disappear. the government can't come onto your phone and delete an app, but you won't be able to update it in the app store. and that means that eventually it will be buggy. it could have security vulnerabilities, and eventually we expect that it would stop working. now, there may be ways around this. you could download a vpn which hides your internet traffic, makes you look like you're accessing a platform from another country, but it would get a lot more complicated. >> yeah, so it looks like the app would just degrade over time without those updates. claire, let's talk about the trump factor in all of this, because the president elect has suggested that he would be open to keeping tiktok around, even though the ban takes place the day before he is sworn in on january 19th. justice sotomayor even expressed concern that trump could just ignore the law altogether. here she is. >> i am a little concerned that a suggestion that a president

elect or anyone else should not enforce the law. when a law is in effect and has prohibited a certain action that a company would choose to ignore enforcement on any assurance other than the change in that law, how might this play into the court's decision? >> it's a really interesting question, right, because it was actually under trump's first administration that he was the one who started talking about wanting to ban tiktok and these national security concerns. so it's interesting to see that he's made this 180. he now says he wants to save tiktok. in fact, he filed a brief to the supreme court asking them to pause this ban going into effect so that he could be the one to try to negotiate a deal to sell tiktok off from bytedance. but look, i think there is a question of whether if the supreme court doesn't block the ban before january 19th, could trump just decide not to enforce the law? that's what you're hearing, justice

sotomayor, talk about. their legal experts have told me he could just essentially signal to the app stores that, look, we won't find you if you continue to host tiktok. but it's not clear if the app stores would be willing to play ball in that case, if they would be willing to violate the letter of the law just because they've been given a wink and a nod from trump. so it's not clear if he'd be successful in that. but that may be an approach that he decides to take here. so we may actually see the supreme court. you hear sotomayor's concerns there, try to make a decision on this before january 19th and before trump is inaugurated the following day, so that he has some more guidelines to go on here. >> all right, claire duffy, we'll be watching closely with you. thanks so much, claire. >> los angeles county is burning now for a fifth day. several wildfires are raging, the largest of them burning out of control. for the latest on the race to contain those flames ahead. kobe. >> the making of a legend. premieres january 25th on cnn.

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only shot. i'm going down this hill. all right. cnn's rafael romo joins us now from atlanta. did you get out on any of these hills? rafael? >> i was going to tell amara either that they're prepared with the real one, or they can use cardboard boxes, which is something that i have done in the past. not yesterday, victor, but this is something that we're not used to here in the south. seeing so much snow. we would have to go back nearly seven years to talk about more than an inch of snow. it was in january of 2018. and yes, as you mentioned, there were many people enjoying that, including children at nearby piedmont park, some of them for the very first time. but the reality is that this winter storm was a huge headache when it came to getting around. let me show you right here where we are 24 hours after the snowstorm. this

is pretty much ice. so roads that are treated like i-85 right next to us are okay. traffic seems to be flowing normally, but there are many untreated streets around the atlanta area and the states and the state that have not are not in any good condition to go through. also, at the airport yesterday, nearly 3400 flights were canceled. it was the highest number since july of last year, and many officials, including georgia governor brian kemp, are still saying that if you don't have to get out on the roads, it's a better idea to stay home. let's take a listen. >> which, again, is why we're asking people if you don't need to get off, get on the roads, don't get on them. if you're on them, you know, try to find those lanes that we've been able to plow and potentially retreat later in the day and just slow down and be very careful out there.

>> the georgia department of public safety. victor and amara reported 1400 weather related calls on friday, including 269 to report crashes, 203 motorists asking for help of any kind. there's also the latest number that i saw of people without power this morning, 90, nearly 90,000 customers, according to power outage usa. and i was telling you at the beginning, there were many children enjoying the snow for the very first time, including my very own daughter, six years old. so not too bad. all in all, now back to you. >> and they were able to build like real snowman like tall big snowmen, you know? and my kids had a blast as well. >> yeah, i saw one of the snowmen online or snow women. she had a wig on with the eyelashes, eyelashes, a little extra in the back scarf. rafael romo. thanks so much for their in atlanta. actually not too far from where we're sitting right now. all right. right now, 50 million

people under winter weather alerts. >> cnn's allison chinchar joining us now. so tell us more on. what we want to know is when the ice is going to start to melt. >> yes. so that's been the problem because overnight it's still getting cool. so everything's refreezing. what doesn't go away. and not just in atlanta, but a lot of the southern cities too. now we are starting to see some of those warnings and watches drop back off a little bit. so that is some good news. but look at how much snow has fallen in some of these areas. again, you're looking at some of these totals out of arkansas, oklahoma, even portions of tennessee, as well as georgia. now atlanta ended up picking up officially 2.1in at the airport yesterday. that is a daily record. i know that may not seem like a very high number, but it is for these southern cities. and yes, it's been since 2018 that we've had that much snow in this particular area, leading to a lot of those travel problems and also the power outages as well. when we look at the rest of this system, you'll see the bulk of that moisture is finally starting to push back out over the open atlantic. but you do still have some areas of

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the big picture, victor, is that big fat felony which doesn't go away. there's no punishment per se, but forever your stained stained a felon. so barring a successful appeal forever, he will be a felon. >> so the sentence is the stigma well, the sense i think you have to look at it in a judicious way. >> and what i mean by that is, is if you or i, or probably most people, if not everyone, listening to this and watching this program were convicted of a felon felony, pardon me, they would potentially lose their job. they'd have all sorts of issues with travel. now i get the fact that the former almost now current president won't have those same issues, but it's still nonetheless a stigma. and if it wasn't such a bad thing, you wouldn't have him fighting so angrily and wickedly and viciously in response to these allegations, trying to go to the supreme court to have this stopped. so it is significant, albeit. yes, you're correct. it's not a penalty like we see for you or me or an average

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