churches, the schools, the library, like it's all gone. >> he's got to feel for everyone there. and the nba has postponed the lakers and clippers games that were scheduled for tonight, guys. the lakers also had their game on thursday postponed. the league saying they just don't want to take away any resources that can be used to help fight. what's going on there? >> yeah. makes sense. and the entire state just going through a tough time. andy, thank you so much. well, first of all is up next. victor, what do you have coming up? >> packed show. of course. we're starting with the latest on the fires in los angeles. and we're highlighting some of the communities and groups impacted and working to stop the fires that you likely have not seen coverage of yet, like the surprising number of incarcerated firefighters are helping to get these deadly blazes under control. plus, i'll speak to a high school football coach who lost his home, his mother and a baby barely made it out alive of their home, and his sister was killed in her home.

what he says about the loss and what he hopes to see happen when it comes time to rebuild his community. also the son of late civil rights leader and black nationalist marcus garvey is with us. he wants president biden to do something for his father before he leaves office in just days. that has some backing from lawmakers in congress, so we'll have that too. >> have a great show. >> victor, thank you very much. let's start it right now well, first of all, our thoughts are with the people of los angeles right now. these fires put into perspective, really, what community means. some families who evacuated the area. they're getting their first chance to see what's left of their homes, their their businesses, where they work, where they went to school, where they went to eat, and sometimes to unwind. a lot of

these communities are just gone. you've seen the pictures. and so far, officials have confirmed the deaths of 11 people. and we hope that number does not increase. but sadly, officials expect it will. the stories we're hearing are tragic, but we're also starting to hear how people are coming together to help these victims. that includes how some have turned an area outside the donation site. >> my sister lost her home in altadena, and it's very devastating to see. i was there when she got a picture of her home, and you couldn't even recognize it. it was basically a parking lot, and it's pretty, pretty bad. i mean, her whole block blocks of houses destroyed. we had a box, a box of bags. we had some extra clothes. so that's the least we could do. i feel pretty bad because our apartment made it so, you know, it's just so many people going through a rough time right now. so, you know, we all got to help each other out. um, but i know we're going to get through this, and,

you know, we're going to rebuild and it's going to be better. it's going to be stronger than ever. >> now let's talk about these local firefighters. they're getting a lot of help. and this hour we're checking in with the fire crews that you likely have not seen discussed from firefighters who are working while incarcerated for little pay to firefighters from california's native tribes offering their unique expertise. let's go first to jason keeling. he is the fire chief of the pechanga band of indians fire department. his crews were called in to help fight the eaton and pacific palisades fires. here's a look at just some of what they've wh this week. you see, really just trying to hit those. it is a hellscape is what it is. and they are doing their work to to take down these fires. chief keeling, thank you for your time. first give us the latest on what your

crews, what your fire teams are facing this morning, as there seems to be a bit of a break in the winds. >> good morning. >> thank you very much for having me this morning. >> yeah. our crews, i have seen some relief yesterday. >> so they've been able to make some good headway on the fire front. >> um, currently, you know, what they're seeing is really just the devastation of total communities, the loss of, you know. >> property and life, um, has been very tragic. >> and our hearts go out to those community members in the l.a. fire areas now. yes, they they are getting some relief and they're able to start making some headway now and start getting some control on these fires. >> and so then what are we expecting of the day ahead? because those first two days and i talked with the battalion chief with cal fire about an hour ago. those first two days would have been difficult for anyone considering how strong those winds were. and the embers moving so quickly. but now that it's calming down, what do you think will be able to be accomplished today? a

greater containment, at least. >> exactly, exactly. >> you can get more aircraft to help battle these fires. >> you can get more crews into these areas. >> you're not having those, you know, strong, strong winds that are providing ember casting and starting spot fires in front of the head of fires. >> so you can really start getting more control on these fires and more control line around them to contain them. >> yeah, there is now this effort to figure out how this could have become so destructive, so severe. we heard from the l.a. fire chief that budget cuts are making it hard for their firefighters. we know that there have been some issues with l.a. county and their alert systems, with mistakes and proximity problems. do you see that there is any? responsibility? man made element here that is responsible in part for the severity of this storm? in

addition to what we've heard. >> you know, that's a that's a great question. um, you know, i can't answer for the l.a. authorities, but, you know, when we look back at this, in my many years of experience, this was like a perfect storm, right? i mean, you're looking at 60 to 70 mile per hour winds, a dry easterly wind coming out of the desert. >> you know, we had little rainfall over the last year. um, so it just lined up to be almost one of those perfect storms. >> and it just, you know, we were prepared for this. we were pre-positioning resources throughout all the counties, including l.a., riverside, san diego, everywhere, uh, in anticipation of these winds. but sometimes mother nature just is stronger than what we can deal with. >> speaking of mother nature, um, there will be the questions about how to prevent this before the fire starts with controlled burns and land management. i know that indigenous communities have used controlled burns for for some time to prevent fires.

becoming this severe. is there something that you think l.a. county that that cal fire can learn from indigenous communities attempts to prevent fires from, like, happening like this? >> you know, i think they're both cal fire and l.a. county. i think they're going to evaluate their communities. and, you know, and they're basically their infrastructures and ensure that these things do not happen again. um, you know, for us and for indigenous people, you know, like controlled burning as you reference has been used for thousands of years. um, usually in landscapes that are in very rural wui areas, the wild urban interface areas. so not really where we have a lot of development and, and housing and commercial development. so, you know, it's hard to speak in behalf of cal fire and l.a. and what they need to do. but but indigenous people for many, many years have used fire as a tool to remove fuels. and here at

pechanga, we we also do some things unique. we have what's called a fuels management crew. that crew is on full time and that crew basically goes and supports multiple facets of batangas needs and clearing, uh, fuel around our residence. our commercial buildings, such as the topanga resort casino or golf course, our all of our business infrastructure. so we try to do that with this fuels crew to, you know, either thin up limit or remove fuels as needed throughout the year. >> pechanga fire chief jason keeling, thank you for your time, and i hope your crews stay safe as they're out fighting the palisades fire and the eaton fire. thank you so much. >> thank you sir, i do have one thing i'd like to announce is that pechanga will be making a $500,000 donation to assist the community members that were impacted by the palisades fire eaton fire, and those funds will be split evenly between the american red cross and the los angeles region and the los angeles rams foundation. so

thank you very much for having me. >> fantastic news. and on behalf of those communities, i thank you for the donation. all right. now to another aspect of this fire fight. and maybe you've not realized that this was even a thing in los angeles right now. many of the firefighters working around the clock are incarcerated. they're inmates. we checked with the california department of corrections and rehabilitation, and they confirm that as of friday, nearly 1000 of 1000 inmates who are part of its fire camp program have been working to stop these wildfires. now, this is voluntary, and for some, it's a controversial program, partly because of their pay. the department explained it to us this way. depending on skill the inmates earn between $5.80 and $10.24 per day during an emergency. cal fire also pays the crew members an additional $1 per hour. they work a 24 hour shift, and the lowest

skilled crew member would earn at least $26.90 per day. my next guest knows what it's like to do that work. he worked as a firefighter while incarcerated. he went on to become co-founder and ceo of the forestry and fire recruitment program. they help recruit and train formerly and currently incarcerated firefighters for professional firefighting careers, and arroyo was also pardoned by governor newsom in 2022. royal hello to you. and first, let's just kind of set the the comparison of what we saw. the pechanga firefighters, what l.a. firefighters, cal fire, what they're doing and what these incarcerated firefighters are doing. is it the same work? >> yes it is, but. thanks for having me, victor. but first and foremost, i would like to share my some of my thoughts and prayers out to the families that have been impacted by l.a. fires. and a big thank you to all our first responders and volunteers who are serving the l.a. community. but yeah,

pretty much it is the same work. um, you know, you go on out there and because i, you know, i pretty much learned to be a firefighter when i was in prison, i was part of california fire camp program, which they train and employ, um, people who are incarcerated to fight wildfires. and, um, you know, we out there, we in the front lines, we, you know, utilizing tools, we going out and, um, you know, just yeah, we out there cutting line and doing our thing. yeah. >> and so what i've learned from, from reading about this project is that after a fitness test in this, uh, fire camp program, they get four days of classroom instruction, four days of field instruction, and then they're to work. is that enough? >> um, you know, honestly, you know, when you become a professional firefighter, like, you start out your career as a, um, you know, firefighter two, you get a two week training, um, but for, like,

professionally, like, you know, it takes time to really understand, um, you know, the level of, of being able to be a firefighter long term. so it's just, um, yeah, it takes time. you know, it definitely takes time. but, um, with an additional training that you receive while you're incarcerated, uh, they definitely give you the tools, the knowledge, skills and tools and abilities to make it happen. >> yeah. the estimate from the state government is that this saves this program, saves californians about $100 million a year. so it's a great savings to the people. so let's talk about pay for these men and women who are out fighting the least skilled makes at least $26.90 per day. why not more if they're out doing the same work, regardless of being incarcerated, they're out doing the same work as someone who is not. >> yeah. um, you know, look, there's very little pay. you know, we're talking dollars

here. um, but, um, you know, they're getting the experience, and, and our job is to try to get them on a pathway so they can be able to have a good career once they come home. um, and that's one of the reasons why my co-founder, brandon smith and i started the forestry and fire recruitment program. um, we are a training, a career training program that equips, um, people coming home from prison and others from marginalized communities for careers. um, um, protecting the environment and serving our community as firefighters. and we do this in four ways, victor. we recruit. we train, and we help them get a job. we mentor them throughout their career, and we have graduates out there right now in the field in l.a. right now, and we're so proud of them. >> yeah, and that is part of the challenge is that people go out and a part of this program, they fight these fires that we're grateful that they and everyone else is doing. but once they are released, it's difficult to get a job with

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fraud in a case that was marred by a prosecutorial and governmental misconduct. the evidence paints an abundantly clear narrative that the charges against mr. garvey were not only fabricated, but also targeted to criminalize, discredit and silence him as a civil rights leader. it goes on to say exonerating mr. garvey would honor his work for the black community, remove the shadow of an unjust conviction, and further your administration's promise to advance racial justice. also pushing for action from the president is his son, doctor julius garvey. he joins us, along with howard law professor justin hansford. he's the author of jailing a rainbow the unjust trial and conviction of marcus garvey. gentlemen, good morning to you and doctor garvey. let me start with you. this formal petition for pardon is new. it was submitted during the obama administration. he ignored it. you've now submitted it again. we don't have a whole lot of time. but just start with, make the case for a pardon here for

us. >> well, we're using the pardon process because we've not been able to get a formal exoneration through the congress. >> you know, we started back in 1987 with the house judiciary committee that was chaired by john conyers. >> and, you know, um, uh, we and we myself, my brother, several different representatives appear before the house judiciary committee and subsequent to that, congressman rangel had house resolutions to exonerate my dad year after year after year. and also yvette clarke picked up on that. so it was a political football, if you will. so it never ended up getting out of the house judiciary committee. however, the president has the authority to issue a posthumous pardon just on his say so. so we've gone that route starting in 2016, the end of the second term of president obama. so

that's where we are at the present time. you know, president biden was vice president at that time. so he should be familiar with the case. so we're using it as a means to exonerate and clear my dad's name. and as you mentioned, there's abundant legal evidence that the trial itself was a farce. it was a political trial. there was no evidence, et cetera.. so it's a matter of clearing his name and, you know, restoring, you know, not only his name per se, but his activity because he had an organization that had, you know, more than 6 million members worldwide, which is the largest member organization of african people in the diaspora, at least. so he was a significant person in the black community. >> yes, sir. let me get the professor in here. let me get the professor in here. because you said professor hansford, this is not just about marcus garvey. explain that. >> yes, well, the the the case here from the beginning was

an effort by j. edgar hoover, not just to target marcus garvey, but to target the movement for racial justice that he was helping to lead the target, the campaign for civil rights and to make people feel like what was being done here was not an effort to uplift people, but was an effort to take advantage of of people. so in a in a situation in 2025 where our history is being challenged, people don't want to teach black history in its fullness in different places around the country. this is a chance for us to reclaim that narrative and to have this inspiring story become something that people know the truth about, and to do justice where an injustice was done so many years ago, over 100 years ago. >> professor, let me stay with you for this, because garvey also believed in preserving racial purity. he opposed,

opposed interracial marriage. i want to read two quotes here. he said that, quote, i regard the klan, the anglo-saxon clubs and white american societies as far as the is concerned, as better friends of the race than all of the groups of hypocritical whites put together. he also said, quote, potentially every white man is a klansman. as far as the in competition with white, socially, economically and politically is concerned, there is no use in lying now. those views are not criminal. those statements are not criminal. but to what extent do you believe they play a role in the decision to pardon or not? >> you know, i think that these individual quotes happened in the 1920s, and i think that was a time when, um, there were members of the ku klux klan who were mayors of towns, and we had a resurgence of that type of activity across the country. so you have to understand the

context of 100 years ago before you take individual quotes and see that as a representation of the views of someone who spent decades fighting for justice. and, you know, doctor martin luther king talked about his admiration for marcus garvey and how, you know, in doctor king's view, garvey's legacy was one that was about uplift. it was about human rights. and that was was about justice for all people. and, you know, i agree more so with what doctor king's judgment was of marcus garvey. and i think history has shown that his inspiration has been one of healing and justice and human rights. >> doctor garvey, let me come back to you, because there are only a few days left of the biden administration. we heard something that surprised a lot of people from close trump confidant roger stone a few years ago. let me play it for you and then ask you a question. you were convicted. >> do you think the president would pardon you? >> the only person i've

advocated a pardon for is marcus garvey. >> have you reached out to mr. stone? have you reached out to the trump administration? do you think that is a viable path for pardon? >> well, i think the trump administration comes into play, shall we say, january the 20th. at that time, we'll cross the rubicon. i think now we're dealing with the biden administration, and that's our focus. you know, there's a couple of weeks left and it's in, you know, biden's capacity to deliver the the posthumous r pardon. so so that's our focus. and you know i agree with what justin just said. you can't take into individual courts without taking into account the context in which the court was made. there was a time when when the klan and many historians will say this pretty much ruled, ruled the country certainly ruled the

south. and we're talking about a time in the 1920s and 17, et cetera., when, you know, people were being lynched at, you know, one human being hour per week. and, you know, and this was the time of the. 2017, you know, um, a 1917, i should say, east saint louis, you know, when blacks were burnt out in terms of the town being made lily white, um, the same thing with, you know, 1921 and tulsa, oklahoma, black wall street. so, you know, there was all of this racism going on and the statement relates to the fact that the solution for, quote, the problem was not intermarriage. that's what the statement related to the solution to the problem was not intermarriage. it was about independence. it was about equity. it was about justice, and it was about

fairness within american society. >> doctor julius garvey and professor justin hansford, we'll continue to follow this not only for the next week or so, but if you indeed reach out to the trump administration or reach out to roger stone, who has the president elect's ear, let us know. we'll continue to follow it. thank you so much for your time this morning. entire communities and their history are gone. after the fires in los angeles. at least the tangible elements of history. i'll speak with the one man who lost his sister and his home in altadena, where he has lived his all his life. his message about that incredible loss and rebuilding next. >> kobe believed in himself at the youngest possible age people who may never even know what a basketball looks like felt his presence. he wants the opportunity to make his own mistakes. he's going to end up making them. >> that's when the black mamba was born. >> it's one of the most remarkable stories in sports

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pictures out of los angeles county here in california. >> this is from our affiliate kabc. live pictures of the palisades fire. you can see that it is still burning largely out of control. the latest we got from cal fire was that it's 8% contained. there. got some slower winds, weaker winds today, although they're still blowing. but we've learned from our meteorologist that later today those winds are going to pick up more. so the firefighters there on the west coast are fighting lots of elements. listen, fire does not discriminate though when it comes to who suffers from its aftermath. and it's fair to note that if you're watching television and the coverage, a lot of families in los angeles who happen to be household names are getting a lot of news attention. but the reality is, and you know this, not all angelenos are affluent. for many, talk of rebuilding is daunting. and in places like altadena, families have been living close together as

neighbors and their communities are just gone now. my next guest is a lifelong resident of altadena. he lost his home. his mother lost her home. it was right next to his. she and a baby were able to get out safely at the last minute, but his sister, evelyn mcclendon, did not make it out of her home, and she lived right behind their mother, zaire. calvin is now with us. zaire i am, and we all here are. so sorry for your loss. i want to start with with talking about your sister. when is the last time you spoke with her? was it right before the evacuation orders? tell us about it. >> yes, it was earlier during the evacuation orders. >> um, just let her know that, you know, we had to get out of there and, um, she was collecting her stuff, and and presumably, um, i felt that she

was on her way out. >> and you thought that she was safe, that that she was out. when did you learn that she didn't make it out? >> um, so my mother's disabled. she's, um, in her 80s, and she has steps in front of her home. so when we were, it was a chaotic scene. um, about the time that we were leaving. and i knew we had to take time to get my mother down the steps. me and my cousin pj, he was the only person to help. and i had my wife, my one year old baby. and as we were leaving, i glanced and i remember seeing her car still parked out in front of the house. >> mhm. and did you go over to the house yeah. >> well i just made a yell like went to the house, we got to get out, we got to get out, we got to go now. came back raced

up the back down the driveway. um went and grabbed my mother. it looked like the scene out of a volcano movie with the winds gushing and and and the fire everywhere. it was, it was, it was, it was it was rough. >> mm. and how did you ultimately learn that your sister did not make it out of the house? >> so when we got everyone in the car and we got out, uh, barely got out. when i left, i just noticed the car. and then the very next day, i had to go back to check because our car was still there and i wasn't even sure she was even in the back. um, as we were leaving. but i know she's a bit of a recluse and doesn't really talk to people. um, notice her car sitting in front of the home.

uh, ads for a wellness check. when i went back with the police, they walked up, looked over, said they couldn't see anything, and then they left. um, talked to my cousin ej, spoke with him, came back. asked him to bring a shovel. he brought a shovel he, um, asked me where. i told him where her bedroom was located and he took the shovel and he started moving debris around. and in that he ended up finding her remains. >> he found her remains? um, yes, i am. i am so sorry that you have lost your home, your sister. the things obviously can be replaced, but the loss of your sister. and to find her

in that way, i know that there's one thing that you wanted to be sure to say about the rebuild and uniqueness of altadena. um, that when you came on today about when this community comes back, what you want to see and what is that yes. >> the most important part is because i don't i don't think people understand the richness of altadena or even the history of altadena. uh altadena. the reason that we ended up with so many african americans in altadena was because pasadena would not allow black people to live or dwell in pasadena, so the servants, uh, in pasadena, uh, all the african american servants, they bought them houses and altadena to live separately because there was no redlining, uh, for black people to live in altadena during that, during

that time. so for that reason is why we have so many african americans in altadena. um, and when it comes to this housing and me, us losing so much as a community because we're very tight knit community, um, diverse community, but strong african american community, uh, community. and when these taxes come, um, i'm so worried about, uh, being, uh, the taxes being reassessed because now these are complete. uh, wipe out, uh, demolition to all these different homes. so people being able to afford the taxes if we need to be grandfathered in to make sure that we're not blackballed out the system and, and, and gentrified out of the, you know, out of our homes and our wealth. >> and, um, we will certainly

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to you. i am sorry for your loss. you initially thought this was maybe a circuit issue or electrical when you learned of what it possibly could be that this was the local. people say that this was an american tourist. what went through your mind? >> well, thank you for the opportunity. >> at the beginning, when we got the call, because i was i left my hotel to the metro area. >> we thought it was a short circuit, because the day before, we have a major power outage in puerto rico. >> so actually, we welcome the new year with the electricity using our emergency plan. so it was so many things going through my mind. >> that's why we thought, well, you know, at 3:00 in the morning when we arrived there after the fire, you know, department controlled the fire. >> we thought it was a short circuit. i mean, we know even imagine that the person can do that. >> yeah. you wrote online that quote in this country, you have to live in fear letting these

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county. they moved so fast that a lot of people didn't have time to pack clothing or belongings, much less find a shelter. well, the schools whose campuses have not been damaged or destroyed have opened their doors to people who need somewhere to stay or a place to pick up supplies. my next guest is the principal of one of those campuses, welcoming people in distress. principal j. kim leads saint andrew's school in pasadena. mr. kim, thank you for being with me. uh, in these these disasters, people always ask, well, what can i do? how can i help? just explain for us what you've been able to do there at saint andrew's. >> so, as you mentioned, since we're out of the evacuation area, we opened up our school. >> we have good air filtration systems. >> so we have food, refreshments. >> as you can see behind me, supplies, clothing and other rooms. and the first day we had a handful. >> on wednesday we had more. and yesterday we had hundreds of people come by donating

gifts and picking up gifts as well. so people are still in massive shock. >> and when they come, we try to hold their hand, take them to places, talk with them, pray with them and engage with them as much as possible. so that's what we've been able to offer, and it's been well received among the families who completely lost their homes and those who've been evacuated and displaced as well. >> what do you hear from them? >> it's been really sad and heartbreaking, but i could tell you a few stories. >> i've some i've spoken to, some i got text messages, others i've met in person. but there are homes that are literally razed to the ground. >> the only thing that's left is a stone or brick chimney. >> and for me, i didn't know the fires could do this, but refrigerators, washers, dryers, they all melted as well. there's nothing left there except ashes. and we've had

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