him. he thinks that it doesn't matter, and that whether it's one year from now where he's remembered, but 10,000 years from now, he won't be. what difference does it make in the scheme of the universe? i had my day in the sun and i had my place in the arena. what i did for new york, donald trump will do for america. >> ladies and gentlemen, america's mayor rudy giuliani. >> today, i'm officially announcing my withdrawal as a candidate for president of the united states. >> very difficult night for rudy giuliani. we are going to make our country great again. >> giuliani sees one thing opportunity. >> trump is clearly the best

choice. >> he thought this will put me back in the spotlight. what i did for new york, donald trump will do for america. >> oh my god. >> i moved on her, actually. you know, she was down in palm beach. i moved on her and i failed. i'll admit it. i did try, and she was married. >> sarah. some breaking news right now. david fahrenthold of the washington post got his hands on a tape. >> hello. how are you? hi. how are you? terrific. >> when the access hollywood tape dropped, i was on air. donald trump and billy bush had something of a raunchy conversation. >> and when you're a star, they let you do it. you can do anything. whatever you want. >> grab them by the. >> he's bragging about committing sexual assault. so i was just stunned. absolutely stunned. >> there is a political storm that has erupted already. >> a parade of republicans has either condemned trump's

comments or withdrawn their support completely, or called on him to step down. >> any truth that he's dropping out? kellyanne conway, reince priebus, others were scheduled to be on the sunday shows. all of them canceled their appearances. >> and the one person who went on to defend him in the wake of that was rudy giuliani. >> joining me now is former new york city mayor and donald trump supporter rudy giuliani. >> rudy giuliani, top adviser to donald trump. >> thank you. thanks for having me back. >> that was a moment for rudy giuliani to really step up and show that he was willing to be donald trump's number one defender. number one attack dog. >> men at times talk like that. i don't know how much he was exaggerating. i don't know how much is true. he's a different man now than he was then. then say stupid things in locker rooms. we should move on. >> rudy giuliani bet on trump when very few people were doing so. >> he stuck with trump after the access hollywood tape. shameful. but like, you know, you do this because you're

expecting a reward. >> i guess there are a few perfect people, but in my view, there's only been one. and that was jesus christ cnn can report that hillary clinton has called donald trump to concede the race. i'm enormously excited for the country. i believe donald trump will be a truly great president. this is probably one of the greatest victories for the people of america since andrew jackson the election of donald trump to the white house shocks the country from coast to coast. >> i'm so proud to call him the president of the united states. >> even people who are polling for donald trump are amazed that he won.

>> it felt like this incredible period of uncertainty. >> who is that? is that the mayor that showed up rudy morning after the 2016 presidential election? >> if you're rudy giuliani and donald trump had just been elected president of the united states, you're feeling that there's tons of opportunity ahead. >> what's your role expect you to be? >> i have no expectation. all i do is give my advice. donald's been my friend for 28 years. all of my work on behalf of him has been out of great loyalty and friendship to him. >> whatever rudy wants, rudy gets because he was the guy who stood by trump. >> whatever he said, bill clinton did much worse. >> his top pick is secretary of state. >> so is this true? >> you want to be secretary of state whatever i want to be, i'll discuss with the president elect. >> rudy's developed a network of contacts in countries across the world in the wake of 9/11. and his geopolitical rock star status, where he's treated almost like an ex-president as

he travels around the world. >> i think he thought being secretary of state would be a good way to stay in the game. >> you're not president. you're not vice president. secretary of state is the most prestigious job in the cabinet. and i think that he saw that as as an alternate to the presidential ambitions that were never going to be fulfilled. >> john would be a very good choice. >> is there anybody better? >> maybe me, i don't know, but he gets a little too far out ahead of himself on this. >> and what was really happening behind the scenes was that there was actually some concerns about rudy and and whether he was up for the challenge here. >> trump confidant rudy giuliani, former new york mayor, may not actually now be a lock for the position of secretary of state. >> there's one moment in trump tower where jason miller, one of the top communication advisers for trump, comes out of the bullpen of his team and says, we need someone to go in there and just lob questions at rudy to see what he says. everybody scatters. the aide

who does get picked goes in behind closed doors and is horrified by what he hears a question about. when is the last time you've traveled to the middle east? that question comes with enough stammering that they have a follow up meeting. the aide asks giuliani, you told me yesterday that you hadn't been to the middle east for a year. are you sure about that? are there any other trips you can remember? giuliani's face goes blank. turns out his secretary had said rudy had just been in the middle east a month ago. >> if you talk to people who were talking to trump at the time, they say he was never seriously considered for it, which is probably more revealing in and of itself, of the dynamic of the relationship between the two of them. >> the relationship between trump and rudy is really a fraught one. it's one where trump really values giuliani's defense of him. >> he was the best mayor in the history of the city of new york. he's a great person who

loves our country, but shows his appreciation, shows his love for rudy with backhand and criticisms in donald trump's eyes. >> there's part of giuliani's record like he ran for the presidency and it totally went up in flames. so to donald trump, he's a loser. >> there was a moment after trump had been elected, steve mnuchin, his new treasury secretary, is getting married in washington, and giuliani is very excitedly talking, and trump stops him, says, rudy, you're spitting all over. go stand over there. and rudy does. >> rudy thought trump was going to appoint him secretary of state, and that didn't work. so he keeps around the margins in any way he can, trying to get back to the center of the action. >> one has to really appreciate, to understand the arc of rudy giuliani, how intoxicating fame and

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now joining the president's legal team. >> he wants to do battle the way he knows how to do battle, which is on twitter and on tv. >> he is treated differently and unfairly. i have no problem with that. >> he wants giuliani, the prosecutor, to prosecute the press, to prosecute the prosecutors. >> you got a hysteria going on in the media that interprets everything against donald trump here. >> and that is what makes giuliani all the way through the trump years. his father in law, jake, we are so we are so distorting the system of justice just to get donald trump. >> it's going to hurt us. >> he was spending a lot of time in the west wing. he was somebody who was constantly on call for the former president to reach out to. and i think this kind of brought back together this on again, off again, long standing bromance between the two of these tough of a certain era in new york men. >> he has this direct access without any of the responsibility or any of the accountability. >> as a skilled professional who figured out how to climb

his way up in the legal world and then up in the political world, that he figured, okay, now i'm in the trump world. what do i need to do to succeed in this world and in this world? loyalty is 100%. obedience is 100%. and he just decided, well, this is the world i'm going to be in, and i'm just going to do this almost immediately. >> as giuliani joins the team in a formal way, he's doing a lot of press. >> when you tell me that, you know, he should testify because he's going to tell the truth and he shouldn't worry. well, that's so silly because it's somebody's version of the truth, not the truth. he didn't have a conversation. >> truth is truth. i don't mean to go like, no, it isn't truth. >> truth isn't truth. the president of the united states says i didn't. >> the truth is the truth. >> mr. mayor, do you realize what i mean? >> there's a moment inside the white house where trump aides start criticizing what giuliani has said on air, and trump barks at them all and says, at

least rudy's out there defending me when did you find out? >> i'll tell you what rudy knows it's a witch hunt. he started yesterday. uh, he'll get his facts straight. he's a great guy. >> in 2018, joe biden is clearly gearing up for a presidential run and is widely perceived as the frontrunner. remember in 2007, when joe biden was making his second run for the presidency and rudy giuliani was making his first? joe biden, famously in a democratic debate, just dismissed giuliani. >> there's only three things he mentioned in a sentence a noun and a verb. >> and 9/11. i mean, there's nothing else. there's nothing else. >> giuliani never has gotten over that, ever. >> rudy giuliani called former vice president joe biden a moron and mentally deficient idiot.

>> i believe that he always needs to define himself through an enemy. right. so catholic school, he was good. >> and there were other kids who were bad. >> and then he's a prosecutor and he's going to lock up the bad guys, and then he's mayor and he's going to lock up the squeegee guys and jaywalkers. and now it's biden. >> rudy starts kind of, from what i can best say, fancying himself as like, you know, the new roger stone. opposition research is as old as the game of politics, but it's the lengths he went to. this is the former mayor of new york, this rah rah, pro america kind of guy who was looking for dirty tricks to try to harm an american political opponent of his friend donald trump giuliani's been doing business all around the world, and one of the places on the map where he started developing relationships is ukraine. >> and who was the obama

administration point person for dealing with ukraine? it was joe biden. just think about how rich an opportunity that is for rudy giuliani, who wants to prove himself for donald trump. >> giuliani had one aim and one aim only, and that was how to up joe biden. >> you can't make this stuff up. joe biden's son, hunter biden, was making money off of a company owned by a ukrainian oligarch. if giuliani could somehow find a connection between joe biden taking official action to help his son enrich himself in ukraine, he thinks that's going to be a golden moment for donald trump over the beginning of 2019, i start getting texts from rudy about ukraine, texts about how hunter biden was corrupt in ukraine, and people need to look into this at this point,

giuliani has really left truth and facts to the side. he has fully joined the conspiratorial mentality of president trump and his administration. totally signed on to that. >> rudy wants to build a case, so he goes to get evidence. now, one of the problems is, is he falls into this murky world of russia and ukraine and all sorts of competing agendas. and he demonstrates very little discernment as to who is a reliable source and who isn't. the problem is, this wasn't some backroom deal in queens. this was about democracy in ukraine surviving as rudy is ramping up this campaign in ukraine to try and get these investigations, he starts feeling like he's running into this roadblock. >> and that is the u.s. ambassador to ukraine, marie yovanovitch. >> i heard very, very bad things about her for a long

period of time. >> not good. >> yovanovitch was recalled by president trump because rudy giuliani accused her of hampering efforts to dig up dirt on joe biden. rudy giuliani was saying that she was the corrupt one, even though she was there, pushing back on corrupt figures in ukraine, the taking down the smearing and the attempt to destroy the career of a career foreign service official. >> for this obscure political personal errand. it was the early warning signal. it was the shocking moment of clarity that should have been, but wasn't the idea that rudy is this powerful international wheeler dealer and that he was going to go over to ukraine and he was going to pull the strings of power? >> this whole thing was shambolic. it was crapulous. it was just a it was a it was going to be exactly the show it turned into from the beginning.

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2020. >> this is giuliani talking. >> we're not meddling in an election. >> we're meddling in an investigation. there's nothing illegal about it. >> what giuliani and trump want to happen here is an investigation into hunter biden. both of them view an investigation as politically advantageous. it doesn't really matter what what the outcome is, as long as they can use that as a as a political cudgel against the son of joe biden, who at this point is clearly the biggest threat to a second term for president trump. >> he's running around representing himself as sort of an arm of the state department, a representative of the president giuliani and the people who are trying to help him started building relationships with the people they thought would be in power. >> in the meantime, ukraine elects a new president, volodymyr zelenskyy is an actor best known for playing the president of ukraine, was elected to lead that country. >> i think at this time president zelenskyy was a relatively unknown player on the world stage. he had won this election in ukraine, but he had this background as a

popular comedian. >> zelenskyy parlayed this role in which a kind of naive but well-intentioned school teacher becomes the president of ukraine into becoming the president of ukraine. this throws a wrench into the interests of rudy giuliani. >> that election creates a whole new dynamic that giuliani then tries to navigate and game out. this is in fragile new government. obviously, recent events show that there is an external danger to ukraine that they cannot ignore the dangle from rudy is we could offer you a public show of support to get a meaningful investigation of hunter biden, rudolph giuliani was not a diplomat. >> rudolph giuliani was not an ambassador. rudolph giuliani was not the secretary of state. rudolph giuliani was a hired political

gun, working to advance donald trump's partisan electoral interests. >> this scandal is a scandal of major proportions. >> are you are you done now because you haven't said anything? >> you haven't. but you can't just talk the whole time. >> mueller. that july testifies in a very clearly lackluster performance to congress. >> the finding indicates that the president was not trump not only felt this sense of exoneration, he also had this sense of vengeance. >> i think robert mueller did a horrible job both today and with respect to the investigation. >> he did nothing wrong that he wasn't involved in collusion, that he wasn't involved in obstruction. >> and it's in this mindset where that morning trump picks up the phone for a call with president zelenskyy. >> the president says there's a lot of talk about biden's son. so if you can look into it, it sounds horrible to me. >> trump spends the call asking

zelenskyy very specifically to help him investigate hunter biden. >> white house notes of that call show that when zelenskyy asked for a shipment of anti-tank missiles, trump countered with these words, i would like you to do us a favor, though what zelenskyy doesn't realize is that inside the white house, trump has put a hold on several hundred million dollars of aid to ukraine in anticipation of zelenskyy agreeing to these investigations. >> many of those who are close to donald trump think that none of this would have happened without rudy giuliani. ukraine was giuliani's deal. these were his connections. these were his sources. this was his rogue foreign policy. i don't know that i think the average american at that time understood why it was so important that we give the security assistance to the ukrainians. >> i think now in 2022, when

russia is invading ukraine and slaughtering innocent ukrainian civilians, our long standing ally, we understand why we had a role in an obligation to do that. >> zelenskyy held firm and it was a weird preview that this young guy who they thought was a was a trifle. they thought, oh, he's a punk. he's nobody. he's a he's a comedian. you know, he just he's an accidental president. he's turned out to be a greater leader in a time of terrible, terrible crisis than either trump or rudy slough and assam slava ukraini slava. the curtain was lifted today on an anonymous whistleblower's explosive complaint against president trump, detailing his ask for political help from ukraine's president. >> giuliani is mentioned in the whistleblower complaint more than 30 times, pointing to that july phone call between president trump and ukraine's president. >> that was a perfect call, an absolutely perfect call. you know, they all know it. >> i'm announcing the house of

representatives moving forward with an official impeachment inquiry. >> and everybody's attention started turning to one man, and that was rudy giuliani rudy's influence led to trump's impeachment over these ukraine issues. >> it's again, this moment of everybody working to sort of contain the rudy influence and keep him away from the president. and yet the president keeps seeking him out. >> rudy giuliani is not a guy who backs down. rudy is a guy who doubles down. >> whenever giuliani was on the defensive when he was mayor, his response was to attack. >> i don't remember him ever apologizing, saying, i shouldn't have said that or i overreacted. and you see that throughout the impeachment process, what you just said is totally wrong. >> it's not completely wrong. >> this was a period where all his friends were kind of begging him to lay low, to stop going on tv and pressing this

case, and he couldn't do it. >> i've got the documents, i've got the proof, and i've got the witnesses. >> one person i spoke to who met with him around that time described driving around in a cab with rudy and rudy on two occasions during the same drive, rolled down his window to high five construction workers who were waving at him. even at the height of the ukraine investigation, when you were having all these administration officials testify about how horrified they were by what rudy had been doing abroad, he just seemed to be having the time of his life. >> this part changed my life. >> superman. crazy. it's just that simple little thing. over the horse. >> she came flying in and she just yelled, i love you. >> superman was in a wheelchair and was willing to go public with. >> it was huge. >> i told him i would do whatever i could to make him proud. >> chris wanted to change the world. >> people are literally walking because of him.

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baffling. >> it's election night in america and a nation in crisis is at a crossroads. >> rudy giuliani was one of donald trump's most trusted advisers. on election night 2020. to get there, you had to be somebody that told donald trump what he wanted to hear, not telling him the truth. >> the first exit polls just coming in tonight, president trump at the white house this evening, rudy giuliani understood something on election night 2020, which many of donald trump's other advisers did not, which is that donald trump meant it when he said he wasn't going to accept the results of the election. >> trump's second election night goes much differently than his first one. this one, for starters, is inside the white house. it's a who's who of trump world. and that guest list, of course, includes rudy giuliani for the early portion of the evening, some fairly prominent reporters were texting me saying, wow, it

looks like he might do it again. >> i can't wait to get the results in. >> and if he doesn't win, that's not even an option. >> i think he's going to win by a lot. >> that's my interpretation. four more years. >> four more years. >> i was in the east wing when the arizona call came. >> fox news called arizona and that angered all the people around the president. >> and the mood changed fundamentally. >> giuliani is furiously scrambling to figure out how to help the president. all of the people yelling suggestions. trump, not knowing what to do until one moment when rudy giuliani pipes up and says, just say you won. giuliani once said a pretty remarkable thing. he said, you could throw a fake. and what he means is in politics, you can embellish, exaggerate, maybe just, you know, throw something out there that you don't have

any real basis to believe is true. um, and that's that's what he did. >> we were getting ready to win this election. frankly, we did win this election. we did. >> make no mistake about it, donald trump himself is delusional. rudolph giuliani helped to contribute to those delusions of grandeur that exist within donald trump's head about the election being stolen from him. >> i think that he felt like the 1989 election was stolen from him, that the voting system was rigged. >> a few of my advisers and other people that actually came to see us, to urge me to contest the election, and they presented us with what they regarded as evidence of vote, voter tampering, voter fraud. >> we see an early premonition of what we're going to see years later. >> we're living through, i believe, the worst voter fraud scandal history of our country. they steal elections in

detroit. >> you'll have an opportunity. >> they steal elections in new york. >> president trump has put his personal lawyer, rudy giuliani, in charge of his campaign's election lawsuits. >> giuliani becomes a real central figure for trump as trump is beginning to devise any strategy to hold on to power. >> giuliani has been on the road in four states, leading the president's election challenge. >> his team has already filed lawsuits in michigan, georgia and pennsylvania. >> we are going to continue the lawsuit here. we're going to bring a second one, and then we're going to bring a federal lawsuit. >> i don't think he believed that trump won the election. i don't think he believes that trump was a great president or a lousy one. i think this is immaterial to him. what's material is that he's standing up there talking about donald trump before thousands of people. >> giuliani, he's on television constantly. he's holding bizarre press conferences like the never to be

forgotten four seasons landscaping press conference. >> trump tweets that there's going to be a press conference by his attorneys at the four seasons. >> two minutes after that, he deleted the first tweet and started over, quote, big press conference today in philadelphia at four seasons total landscaping. >> oh, that four seasons. of course he means four seasons. total landscaping, located just down the block from fantasy island adult books and video store and across the street from the delaware valley cremation center. >> it's so embarrassing you couldn't even write it. >> 700,000 votes disappeared. >> giuliani is insisting that they will continue to fight. when a reporter interrupts him and tells him that the election had been called. >> what was it called by all the oh my goodness, all the networks wow. all the networks. >> of course it would end up like this with rudy giuliani

making an of himself while donald trump officially loses the presidency and is in the golf course. >> this legal team, aka the clown car of incompetence, has now lost close to 50 cases in a month, most of them, i mean, basically laughed out of court inside courtrooms, nearly every single attempt from trump, the trump campaign and his allies are rebuked by judges who want to see some measure of proof that simply doesn't exist. >> dismissals in michigan, georgia, nevada, arizona. and i'll tell you, it's rare to see courts throw out cases this quickly. >> we're going to stick with this. we're going to win this election. we've actually won it. and i believe biden and his crew tried to steal the votes. >> i believe it is totally fraud. >> i'm just not believing that biden won in any way, shape or form. >> everybody

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world. i know crimes, i can smell them. >> this is a man who is a student of american history, who could have given you lectures about our democracy and the need for a peaceful transfer of power. >> you know, we use largely a venezuelan voting machine, in essence, to count our vote. we let this happen. we're going to become venezuela. >> he's too smart to believe some of the nonsense that he's been spouting. you know, the monkey business with the ballots and, you know, venezuela being involved. i mean, this is just nutty stuff fast forward to hair dye running down his face. >> so the only evidence that rudy has uncovered is that he's not a natural brunet. >> i can tell you, the second he saw that line of makeup or hair gel or whatever the hell

it was oozing off of rudy's head, that donald trump, a man with a more than passing acquaintance with makeup, immediately wrote rudy off. >> you know, your legal strategy is up when even your hair starts crying about it. >> there's a lost capacity for shame. and shame is a self-regulating function in giuliani's case, earlier in his career. i think this actually served the public interest fairly well. that moment is now long gone, and he's just a man with lots and lots of pie in his face to go with the dripping hair dye. and, you know, the general sense of like a corroded and decayed human being. >> the menace gets lost in the clown show. he's standing there perpetrating a big lie about our most sacrosanct thing, which is our democracy. yet it actually is the genesis of what came closer to an american coup

than we've ever had. we are the majority, and trump won. >> trump won. >> trump won. the night before january 6th, rally goers had started assembling. and i can tell you to this day, donald trump won the election. they were so loud that trump could hear them in the oval office that evening. trump opened the doors on this chilly january evening and started calling aides into his office. can you hear them outside, he'd ask. can you hear how excited they are i woke up that morning and, you know, there was a sense of real menace in washington, and there had been for a couple of days. >> there is a new republican party on the rise. >> we're coming for you, and we're going to have a good time doing it. >> this is the greatest group

of patriots ever put together. >> what does giuliani do on january 6th? >> please welcome america's mayor, rudy giuliani, who takes the stage at the stop the steal rally on the ellipse just south of the white house. >> you can see the white house in the distance, and he fires up this crowd. >> this has been a year in which they have invaded our freedom of speech, our freedom of religion, our freedom to move, our freedom to live. i'll be darned if they're going to take away our free and fair vote, and we're going to fight to the very end to make sure that doesn't happen. over the next ten days, we get to see the machines that are crooked, the ballots that are fraudulent, and if we're wrong, we will be made fools of. but if we're right, a lot of them will go to jail. so let's

have trial by combat. >> rudy giuliani arguing that he wasn't literally advocating for insurrection when he spoke at a pro-trump rally in washington just before rioters stormed the capitol. >> when i heard him say trial by combat that was a decisive for me. he absolutely enabled an attack on our democracy and tried to overturn an election. and that's just a civic sin. that's completely unforgivable. rudy, rudy, when you see him being one of the speakers leading in the january 6th, look at the footage of the police riot when david dinkins was mayor. >> that's who rudy was. he's just not able to finesse it like he used to. but that's rudy. >> we're going to walk down to the capitol. lock

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people lose faith in our democracy is a horrible way to end your career because of the damage that you have already done to our system. and even greater danger that may lie ahead. you said, hey, giuliani. >> you. >> yeah, he's just fallen so far and he keeps falling. so the only thing that kind of ties it all together is that people are still talking about him, whether he's going up or he's going down. he's in the conversation and maybe that's maybe that's what it's all about for him. >> now, he once told a reporter, you know, whatever the whatever they say about me, i'll be dead one day, i don't care. >> and that may be true, but he's still alive, and he still has to

think about it. >> so my father would say to me, when you make a decision, the most important thing you've got to think about is can you shave the next morning and look at yourself in the mirror and feel good about yourself? >> i do not think that rudy giuliani understands that there has been a tremendous erosion of his reputation, that he has caused at all. he looks in the mirror and he sees the hero of nine over 11. >> and those of us who are here have to defend freedom by going about our lives unafraid.

>> i saw him walking down the street about two weeks after they raided his house. i looked out the side of the car and i said, there's giuliani. i didn't even roll the window down. it would have been beyond even me to be able to predict. he'd end up the way he ended up. here's a man now who got there with divisiveness and polarizing, and by some luck, was able to resurrect himself to being the nation's mayor. got a second chance, and then he erodes it all. it is almost unthinkable. at the end of the day, rudy giuliani was not brought down by those of us that opposed him. he was not brought down by his critics. rudy giuliani was brought down by rudy giuliani.

>> if rudy. had left public life either after 9/11 or after 2008. when he dies in a few years, they would name high schools after him. they would rename laguardia airport after him. he would go down as a complex. weird. funny, strange, highly accomplished guy who at two key inflection points in history, stood up and offered powerful leadership. that man's gone. unfortunately, it's tragic.