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>> super man the christopher reeve story, february 2nd on cnn. >> this is cnn breaking news. >> hello, i'm kim brunhuber. firefighters are making
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promising progress on the largest fire burning in the los angeles area. the palisades fire. the operations chief says there is minimal activity in some parts as crews stop the spread of the fires boundary. but officials are warning there is a very significant concern that the fires will grow in the hours ahead. that comes as the death toll climbs to 16. authorities say more bodies will likely be uncovered as cadaver dogs join search and rescue teams. powerful winds are picking up after a brief lull on friday allowed firefighters to start making progress, but that work could be lost, with the largest fire inching closer to brentwood, bel-air and other communities near ucla. and the mayor of malibu says that city has already lost one third of its eastern edge to the palisades fire, which is 11% contained right now. the second largest eaton fire is 15% contained. more than 100,000 people remain under evacuation orders, and fema has received more than
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16,000 applications for individual assistance. the fire chief says to expect more power shutoffs ahead of life threatening winds, an effort that could stop new fires from popping up. the national weather service says very dangerous weather conditions will continue into next week. so as people struggle to figure out their next move, california's attorney general says price gouging during the fire emergency won't be tolerated. here he is. >> we are talking about people who have lost loved ones whose homes have perished in the fires, who have lost treasured belongings, whose lives have been turned upside down, who are struggling and suffering. they're looking for housing. they're looking for essential goods to keep their lives moving. the last thing they need is for someone to victimize them again, exploit them and take advantage of them and harm them through price gouging. they need the opposite. they need some people who are giving them care and
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support and looking after them and valuing them and helping them. >> cnn's stephanie elam is on the ground near brentwood and shows us what fire crews are doing to prepare for this new round of strong winds. >> i want to draw your attention to this ridge line up here behind us. up there where you see a vehicle parked up on top of that sandy colored area. they have been bulldozing, making that broader, making that wider. and the reason why they're doing that is because they want to have a defensible space, a place where they can battle against the flames. were the fire to come this direction. and we have gotten information that the winds will change direction and start to blow this way. right now the fire is burning out in this canyon here in brentwood, california. but what they want to make sure is that it stays away from these homes that you see right here. um, all day saturday, we've seen
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firefighters staged there behind these houses that are up against this ridge. and obviously a lot of people like to live here. they've got this lovely, beautiful nature backdrop behind them. but this is also the downside of that is just how close they are to this fire burning here. the palisades fire you can see as they have been doing all day, they've been fighting this fire from the sky. they've been dropping fire retardant. they've been dropping water to stop that forward movement. but as the winds change, the smoke starts to change. and so they have to change how they're fighting these blazes. but this is what they're continuing to do here to protect the houses along this ridge here. because obviously, the first concern is to make sure that they keep people alive. and as i've been told, most of the people here did evacuate. the next thing that they're working on is keeping homes safe. and so they have extra firefighters coming from all around the country, in fact, from several states and as well as canada and mexico here to help battle these
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blazes. as we prepare for these higher winds over the next few days. back to you. >> earlier, i spoke with georgie and leonardo antenori, who lost their home and all their belongings in the palisades fire, and they described their heartbreaking experience. are you there? >> the fires never, ever come that far into the palisades. they always stay in the canyons, pretty far from where we are. but when i saw the plume of smoke, i. i did think that they would probably shut down pch either way. so i called my husband, who was at home with our two year old, and i said, you know, just in case they shut down pch, why don't you just head to my parents? we can meet there, switch cars, and i'll come home with the baby. and within an hour of that, that was at 1030 in the morning. they were mandatory evacuating everybody. and by 5:00 everything was up in flames. >> yeah, it must have been just absolutely terrifying. especially as you say, when you have a two year old to to care for.
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>> yeah, definitely. it moved pretty quick. so i looked out the window and saw the the plume of smoke and five, ten minutes later i looked again and it was like reaching the ocean. and so it was time to go. >> yeah. and good thing you did. um, unfortunately, your your home didn't make it. how did you find out about that? >> so our entire community was watching the news pretty closely. i had to turn it off at some point because it was just so emotional. um, and so we woke up the next morning. i mean, we didn't hardly sleep at all, but at 8 a.m., when i finally decided i was brave enough to look, i looked and saw that everyone had announced that our our park was gone. and it was it was just devastating. >> yeah, we're seeing some pictures. i mean, did you did you go back and take those pictures? >> we did. we went back on thursday together. on some borrowed bicycles from friends
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to see if we could salvage any, any valuables from the ashes. >> yeah, i went again today. i went again today. and, um, it's just i'm still trying to, like. it's it's it's so mind boggling what happened. and so tragic that it just. you just don't have words for it, you know? >> well, i mean, your your house is, is almost your whole world. and when that disappears, i can understand the sense of, of complete dislocation. and, you know, we say sometimes, well, a house i mean, it's just it's just things that can be replaced. but there's a lot that can't be replaced. right, right. >> yeah. i mean, you breathe, you breathe your whole life into your home. it's it's like a family member. it feels like someone has died. it feels like a family member has died. yeah. >> is there anything that that you you think of? um, you know, that that just you won't be able to to replace that? you'll
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you'll miss the most yeah. >> um, so we actually, we have our two year old daughter, but we had a daughter 15 years ago. she'd be 15, and she passed away when she was one. and her ashes were in our home. and when they're gone, like every memory, every piece of physical evidence of her life is just gone. and that hurts. i feel numb right now because i feel like i've cried. all of my emotions, but i've just been. it's just been. >> yeah. >> well, santa ana winds this month have been exceptionally strong. cnn meteorologist chad myers looks at why they pose so much danger in the days ahead. >> santa ana winds happen all the time, but the one that we had on monday was extraordinary. >> 85 to 100mph. >> unheard of. but what we're seeing now is even a 45 mile per hour santa ana wind will do certainly some damage because we have so many sparks that are
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already out there by morning hours here. i mean, we have winds at 43, 45 mile per hour gusts. now, this is a transverse range. this is a mountain range up here. you're always going to see color here because it's on top of the mountain. that's kind of how the model is going to run this. but we kind of die off a little bit. have a lighter day on monday, but then again tuesday and wednesday. look at the colors as we bring them back all the way through wednesday and even into thursday. these deep reds are not what we're looking for when we already have embers on the ground. so for today, critical for tomorrow, critical. tuesday, wednesday. the same story. now that's a level two of three. when we had the firestorm, we were of three of three. and it's not going to be unheard of if some of these days either tuesday or wednesday could get upgraded to three of three. we'll have to see. obviously, part of the problem is the drought. everywhere that we see orange here, that is severe
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drought and that just happened since march when the rain simply stopped. a lot of growth over winter, lots of lots of rain, lots of snow. but then all of a sudden it just stopped precipitating. there was just no more rainfall to come. we are going to see some of that smoke blow away from l.a. we've been talking about how bad the air quality is, at least by monday, when the winds all blowing from the same direction, we will be blowing that smoke offshore for the next few days, kind of swirling around here in the valley. be very careful with that unhealthy air that's still out there. >> mexican firefighters arrived yesterday at los angeles international airport to help battle california's wildfires. they'll be joining more than 14,000 personnel already fighting the palisades fire. the state of texas is also entering the fight. its governor announced it would send more than 130 fire firefighters and emergency management and medical personnel, and also provide 45 fire engines, ambulances, command vehicles and equipment.
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california governor gavin newsom thanked those helping his state and announced on saturday that he would double the number of national guard members deployed to the fires, and that will bring the total on site to more than 1600. president joe biden says he and the federal government are making every effort to aid california's firefighting and provide support in what will be a difficult aftermath. cnn's julia benbrook reports from the white house. >> the biden administration says it is in constant communication with california governor gavin newsom and los angeles mayor karen bass. those two leaders were a part of a briefing where biden was updated on the efforts to suppress the fires across l.a., and how federal resources are being used to assist with the response on the ground. following that briefing, biden said that his team would continue to work 24 over seven with state and local officials. this promise comes as biden has just over a week left in office. >> we're going to make sure california has every possible
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resource to fight these fires and help survivors. this is not going to be over even when all the fires are out. it's just going to be the beginning. and the change in insurance policy in california for these modest homes, as well as these very expensive homes and businesses. so we're going to be around a long while to go to help the federal government and the mayor as well. >> the president said that his team is briefing the incoming administration on the steps that they're taking. biden has directed the federal government to cover 100% of the state's cost in this initial disaster response. for the first 180 days, and fema has activated their critical needs assistance program to jump start recovery. that's a one time initial payment of $770 to cover initial needs like food, water, and prescriptions. the administration is also providing air tankers as well as firefighting helicopters to
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help with the response. biden was initially scheduled to be in italy over the weekend, but he canceled that trip so that he can focus on the federal recovery efforts. and again, in just over a week, it will be a new administration overseeing this response at the white house. julia benbrook, cnn. >> so as conditions continue to deteriorate across los angeles, many are asking the same question why are wildfires getting more severe and harder to tame ahead of the evolving behavior of the fires themselves? plus, from historic flooding to devastating firestorms, now southern california is turning into a dangerous proving ground for climate change. stay with us. >> kobe believed in himself at the youngest possible age. >> people who may never even know what a basketball looks like felt his presence. >> he wants the opportunity to make his own mistakes. he's
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fire. that's all from the fires has reached at least 16 people. one city official is urging president elect donald trump to see the impact of the disaster firsthand. >> today, i wrote a letter to president elect trump inviting him to engage in wildfire recovery efforts and to visit the county to see the impact firsthand that it has on every socioeconomic, uh, individual in this county. >> engaging the white house makes the way for the rapid deployment of federal resources, including emergency personnel and financial assistance for major fires, continue to rage, with the palisades fire being 11% contained. >> the second largest, the eaton fire is 15% contained. so as the severity of the l.a. wildfires worsens, many people are asking why they've gotten so bad. cnn's laura patterson
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points to the world's climate crisis and how it's impacting the behavior of the fires themselves. >> deadly, destructive, out of control blazes are sweeping across the los angeles area. and you might be wondering, why is this happening now in the middle of winter? january is typically one of l.a .'s wettest months, so major fires are rare, but the climate crisis is changing. fire behavior by driving hotter temperatures and more extreme swings from wet to dry conditions. >> november. >> december. now. january, there's no fire season. it's fire year. it's year round. >> it's unclear what sparked the blazes, but they're being fueled by santa ana winds, strong, warm seasonal winds which flow from the desert through the mountains toward the california coastline. these winds are not unusual for this time of year, but have been exceptionally powerful and have arrived as l.a. grapples with drought. it's been the driest start to l.a .'s wet season for more than 80 years. parching a landscape which has a lot of
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vegetation. after an exceptionally wet winter last year, this has created perfect fire fuel. crucially, every woodley fire has its own unique set of circumstances. but as we've seen in recent years, climate change is loading the dice in favor of more intense and more rapidly spreading blazes. >> rahel solomon peter kalmus is a climate scientist who lived in altadena, california, for 14 years before moving to north carolina in 20 2022. thank you so much for being here with us. so, uh, two years ago, i understand you decided to leave altadena. i mean, anyone who studies climate knows, you know more than anyone else. the area is a fire risk. was there was there something that convinced you? it's time to leave now. >> yes. my colleagues and i have been sounding the alarm for a very, very long time. it feels like we've been being ignored for a very long time. in my case, it was just getting
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hotter. drier, more fiery. a lot of big smoke events over the last 14 years. and, um, in 2020, there was a heat wave that got up to about 115 degrees in altadena, um, which set off a series, a series of fires. one of the fires was very close to my house, and it was weeks of smoke, and i just said, this isn't sustainable. i can't stay here anymore. it doesn't feel it's just too hot and fiery. um, so. yeah. and i, i used to imagine this happening. i didn't think it would happen this quickly. >> yeah. i mean, it must just be such a tough decision to to uproot and somewhere that you. i know you loved so much and looking at the pictures, now of this devastation, i mean, so much of what you know and loved is now gone. um, i mean, even knowing the dangers, i mean, did you think something, you
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know, this extreme would happen unfortunately, yes. >> um, so one of the things i want the world to know is that this is still just the beginning. we can see bigger heat waves coming, worse, fires coming, worse, floods coming. there's going to be impacts to the global food system. um, this is not a drill. this is a climate emergency. i don't know why the federal government won't declare a climate emergency. and the last thing i really want the world to know is that the fossil fuel industry has been anti-science, has been spreading disinformation systematically for about half a century. and, of course, lobbying and essentially bribing politicians to block action. and the world needs to know that these are not natural disasters. they are caused by a dishonest industry that has recently pledged in 2021, there was a hearing in front of
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congress and they essentially refused to stop funding their disinformation campaign. it's ethically it's it's it's beyond words. there's no words for how humans can put their own profits. uh, already very, very wealthy humans put adding additional profit to their bank accounts above life on earth and a habitable planet. and our cities like los angeles. it's just reprehensible. >> well, putting corporate interests aside, when we look at sort of how our governments can can deal with this. i mean, you look at the last election, it doesn't seem to have been a motivating issue for folks at the polls. i'm talking about climate change. and as a result, there's an incoming administration that's promised to undo what, you know, uh, incoming president trump calls the green new scam on on day one. >> he couldn't be more incorrect. uh, there's a second problem,
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which is that the media, the. i would say that the global media has not been connecting the dots on this issue. the public doesn't know that essentially everything is at stake. they don't know. they have a sense maybe, that this is a new normal, but it's a ramp towards a hotter planet. and a hotter planet means all of these impacts are getting worse. there's essentially no upper limit to how bad things could get if we keep burning fossil fuel. so. so yes, i think every time there's a disaster like this, anytime there's a flood, anytime there's any climate impact and a newspaper or a magazine reports on that, they should say three things. this will keep getting worse. this is caused by fossil fuels. and the fossil fuel industry has been and continues to spread disinformation. that's part of the story. without that information, the public doesn't really know what to make of this. they they feel, you know, afraid. they feel like things are out of control. but i, i, you know, talk to people just, you know, at the grocery store. a lot of people still think that recycling will
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fix this. a lot of people still think this is caused by plastics. people think that carbon offsets might work. all of that is false. this is caused by fossil fuels and the fossil fuel industry has been systematically blocking climate action. and that needs to stop. and people need to know that so that it can stop. >> yeah. i mean, you chose to leave a fire prone area. is not necessarily an option for many people who live in in affected areas. and when you widen it out to not just fire, but other, uh, you know, climate disasters that were going to be more and more exposed to. certainly all of us are on one level going to be affected by this. so important to sound the warning, and we should certainly heed your words. peter kalmus, thank you so much for speaking with us. really appreciate it. thank you. our breaking news coverage of the los angeles fires continues, and you'll get a closer look at the destruction in the pacific palisades. plus, we'll get a
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brunhuber. this is cnn newsroom. firefighters are making progress on the palisades fire. but there's still significant concern. wildfires that have now killed at least 16 people will continue to grow in los angeles county. the palisades fire has been threatening communities west of the 405 freeway. and looking ahead, the national weather service says dangerous conditions are expected to extend into next week, which could lead to new fires. more than 100,000 residents remain under evacuation orders, but some orders have been lifted in certain areas. marissa herman's restaurant has been destroyed, but she's helping defeat others affected by the fires, and she tells us what she saw and felt as she realized just how much was destroyed. >> i'm on a neighborhood chat and they needed food. some of my neighbors have stayed to put out the fires. i live on the fire line. my house is still standing, but the other side of the road is not and the fire trucks have been moved to
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mandeville, so our neighbors are putting out fires and hot spots and they were hungry. so i came up to bring them food while i was able to get to my house. today, i had a police escort take me there. i stood in the queue and was able to get in, and then my car actually had to leave on the side of the mountain and and run down. was it tuesday? and the officer kindly drove me to my car to get there. i had to go through the palisades. it's not good. >> it's really bad. it's really bad. >> it's hard to grasp the reality of it. it's, um. it's out of a horror movie, but i just saw. i mean, i don't know how to move forward. you know? we have to. we have to dig deeper than this. will have to galvanize
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us. but it's, um, it's mass mass destruction. >> and cnn's lee waldman has more from the devastated pacific palisades neighborhood of los angeles. >> winds are picking up here in pacific palisades. it's a race against the clock for first responders who are trying to get a greater level of containment for the fires that are currently burning here in l.a. county. but we heard from the cal fire chief who said there is a significant concern that with those winds picking back up, that the wildfires could grow the firestorm in southern california stretching east saturday. and now new concern over the wind speeds increasing, posing a further threat. the multiple blazes combined singeing nearly 40,000 acres in southern california, decimating communities. >> it's okay. >> it's like your heart's been ripped out. we have everything. we have our lives and stomped on and thrown away. and you're just trying to find a piece to
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put it back together. >> the pellegrini family lost their restaurant of 40 years. like so many others, they've lost so much. >> two doors down. the house is gone. one door up. the house is gone. the house above me is gone. the house is across the street. we're. we're burning all day. >> dan o'connor is one of the few residents whose home is still standing in malibu. but around him is nothing but mangled metal and charred debris. this home, only the staircase is left standing. the largest of the wildfires, the palisades fire, devouring the malibu area. >> it's devastating and heartbreaking for all, but it's great to see the, you know, the community come together. >> the winds calming down saturday morning, allowing crews to make progress fighting the flames by air and reducing the risk for firefighters. >> you're not having those, you know, strong, strong winds that are providing ember casting and starting spot fires in front of the head of fires. >> but the dry conditions still leaving much of southern
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california under a critical level for fire danger. the santa ana winds are expected to pick up sunday, which could worsen fire risk. california governor gavin newsom doubled the amount of national guardsmen who are here helping to respond to these fires. we also are getting help from mexico firefighters and also firefighters coming from texas, all with the same goal in mind, trying to protect the people and communities in the path of these blazes in pacific palisades. i'm leigh waldman, cnn. >> last hour i spoke with todd hall, who's a senior meteorologist with the national weather service in oxnard, california, and he said the winds are expected to be less significant than they were last week. here he is. >> both these santa ana wind events are expected to be much less significant than than what we saw tuesday and wednesday of earlier this week. so or last week. so, um, so in general,
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yeah, we're we're expecting uh, the tuesday, the monday night into tuesday event has potential to be a fairly strong event. and that could as a tendency when we get gusts above 70mph, that has a tendency to push embers much farther, uh, ahead of the fire. so, uh, but we have world class firefighters here. they, they they're well trained. they know what they do. i've seen them with with even the the smallest amount of window of weather conditions, they get ahead of that fire. so i have very, very high faith in what they're able to do, uh, with these fires. i will say that the monday night tuesday event could end up could impacting the county to the north significantly. ventura county as as this this event on monday night to tuesday looks more easterly. has a more easterly component to it, which tends to affect ventura county. >> more interesting. so so those winds could push the fires sort of more more inland is that towards more populated
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areas. >> so the palisades fire would be pushed more back towards the coastal areas, towards the southwest. but we there we are watching for potentially new fires to develop. and that's what our concern for the counties to the north so far, ventura county has escaped a lot of this, but and the winds were much weaker with this event in ventura county. but but we're concerned that those those winds could develop as we get into monday night and tuesday. >> all right. so looking at this sort of, you know, pulling the lens back a little bit, this is being termed a once in a generation event. i mean talk to me about how how we got here. obviously the first ingredient is drought right. >> yes. and we've we haven't in in downtown los angeles, we had a quarter inch of rain, uh, since may. so we've had a very
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dry eight. um, normally downtown los angeles receives about 14in on average per year. it doesn't seem like a lot if you live in other parts of the world or other parts of the country. um, but we normally should have five inches of rain by by this time, and that allows the the native chaparral and sage plants to absorb some of that moisture. well, that really hasn't happened because we haven't had that rain. um, so it tends to, it tends to, to really make the fire weather conditions much more critical as we get into this, when we get into these, these times of year, when, when we have santa ana winds between october and december and even january. so that's that's what tends to be, uh, that's what tends to happen is when we start getting into these and we don't have this rain, it becomes a it becomes a very critical situation for fire weather. >> yeah, absolutely. and you talked about the santa ana winds. i mean, that's something that happens regularly. is there is there something different that happened this time around? >> the event this time was was a little more northerly. and so
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that that it was a very. so um, we ended up getting very strong winds across much of los angeles county, even the san gabriel valley on tuesday and wednesday got, uh, damaging winds that that occurred. that's what helped start the eaton fire, um, or help fuel the eaton fire, i should say. um, as as you know, these winds were were very strong. um, they also prevented air resources from they hampered some of the air resource efforts as far as providing that for, for suppression of, of the wildfires. so we had a lot of we had very, very strong winds, uh, going back to the 1940s. burbank airport reported a gust to 83 miles an hour. um, we could not find a record of that. going back to the to when that weather station first started. just after just around the end of world war two. so, uh, it's now significantly what they will say about that is, is burbank is is is one is
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just one area there of other areas that have seen much stronger winds than that more frequently. so, uh, i can go back to the to october 2007 wildfires where we had a large amount of fire across southern california. so, um, as far as once in a lifetime. yeah, it could be once in a lifetime for for some people, depending upon where you are. >> police say they've made seven arrests for looting in the last two days, including two people who were posing as firefighters. state officials are warning people to watch out for scams, and they're sending a message that price gouging during the emergency won't be tolerated. >> we are talking about people who have lost loved ones whose homes have perished in the fires, who have lost treasured belongings, whose lives have been turned upside down, who are struggling and suffering. they're looking for housing. they're looking for essential goods to keep their lives
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fernando valley. it seems this disaster may be far from over, as dangerous conditions are expected to carry into next week, while evacuation orders remain for thousands in southern california, some orders have now been lifted for certain areas. and joining us now out of cambridge, massachusetts, is juliette kayyem. she's cnn's senior national security analyst, as well as a former assistant secretary for the department of homeland security. good to see you again. thanks so much for being here with us. so listen, i want to start with the reporting we got from our reporter who is in the palisades. i spoke to her about half an hour ago. she was saying that there was a curfew in place tonight, in part to prevent looting. she talked to us about all the police patrols that were going through the area. california officials say at least 20 people have been arrested on suspicion of looting. we know richer areas are hiring, hiring, private security, but those less well-to-do areas don't don't
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have access to that. how how big are those concerns about looting? >> they're they're big. they're serious. and unfortunately, they're quite common. after a disaster. we we call them disaster vultures. these are people who take advantage of abandoned property, take advantage of people who are, you know, at the worst moments of their life. these range from from stealing and looting to consumer fraud, getting people to give, you know, getting people in the most vulnerable and taking advantage of them. and so that is why you're seeing a very heavy handed public safety apparatus come into play. now that people are returning home or that homes are abandoned. this is unfortunately a necessary given. what's what's going on. it's the oddity or i guess it's the paradox of what we're seeing is because the fires were so bad and homes were so
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devastated for a lot of these areas, there's nothing to loot. there is, in fact, nothing there. and so some of the areas, the worse off they are in an odd way, the, the, the less looting, the less kind of public safety issues that they're concerned about will occur. >> yeah. now the fires are so bad, of course, because of natural circumstances. we have the the weather and the winds and so on and so forth. but something that is, is sort of incomprehensible as well is that people have actually been been arrested and stopped. people who have been trying to set more fires. i mean, explain that for me. yeah. >> it's it's like it's like it's the worst in people. and the worst people often come out. i want to put this in perspective. the, the, the best of people and humanity often comes out in disasters like these. that's why people like me can stay in this field. you actually see the best of of
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these communities. i grew up in los angeles. i this is a this is familiar that that that los angelenos will come together across lots of devices. and you're seeing that unfortunately there are those who either are from there or come there who who will take advantage of this situation and, and exacerbate it, as we're seeing with the arsons, as we're seeing with a probably likely a lot of consumer fraud will occur. people, people set up fake gofundme pages, say, i lost my home and the goodwill of others is is going to give them money. they didn't lose their home. right. and so part of this is just trying to put a heavy sort of law enforcement enforcement efforts on. i'll add one more thing, which is the drones. these people who are having fun with drones right now, we know there's been one altercation, essentially between a private drone and and a helicopter
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trying to assist in water. so this is another area where people are just sort of losing their minds in many ways. and, and order needs to be restored to protect people who live there, as well as the first responders. >> juliette kayyem, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> ukraine says it can now back up its claim that north korean troops are fighting alongside russia. still ahead, kyiv says two north koreans have been captured and they're reportedly talking. stay with us. >> i lay on my back, frozen, thinking the darkest thoughts, and then everything changed. dana said, you're still you and i love you, super man. >> the christopher reeve story february after last month's massive solar flare added a 25th hour to the day. >> businesses are wondering what should we do? >> with company wide power now? >> anything can change the world of work. from hr to
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eastern front where the fighting, of course, continues as well. a capture that will be important for the ukrainians in trying to figure out not just the numbers of north korean soldiers currently fighting in kursk, but the nature of their training and readiness for battle. melissa bell, cnn, paris. >> israel is sending its intelligence chief mossad director david barnett to qatar for hostage and ceasefire talks with hamas. the move comes as israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu met with president elect trump's middle east envoy on saturday. netanyahu is facing pressure from both the current and incoming u.s. administrations to reach a deal by january 20th. an israeli official tells cnn that sending barnea is a sign of clear progress in the talks, and of the pressure israel is feeling to reach a solution. meanwhile, a few dozen israeli protesters clashed with police during an anti-war protest in tel aviv on saturday. police carried some protesters who refused to move
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