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this sunday. i'm fredricka whitfield in atlanta alongside left blood thinners behind for my colleague bill weir in life. we've cut our stroke pacific palisades, california. risk and said goodbye to our bill, we'll get to in a bleeding worry with the moment. we've got breaking news, windy conditions starting watchman implant watchman. to fan the flames of the it's one time for a lifetime. wildfires ripping through the >> your life is pretty smart, los angeles area as but when it's time to eat, firefighters race to save homes suddenly you feel out of sync. and communities. the intense refresh your routine with santa ana winds are expected to factor chef prepared meals pick up even more later on delivered with a tap ready today and continue all the way in two minutes. imagine dinner through wednesday. they're creating grueling conditions for the fire crews overnight air and ground teams made some on autopilot and enjoying tuscan tomato chicken without lifting a finger. upgrade your progress thanks to favorable weather conditions, fire officials say. containment of the eaton fire right now stands plate. optimize your nutrition eat smart with factor let's at 27%, while the largest of the start the bidding at $5 fires, the palisades, remains just 11% contained. the fires million. >> thank you sir. >> these people of privilege have killed at least 16 people, hoarding the financial advantages for far too long. at least 16 others >> point five at the back. look at them. are still missing at this hour. search and rescue teams are >> unaware that robinhood gold members now enjoy the vip going neighborhood by treatment. the 3% ira match on neighborhood searching for victims. 105,000 people are
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under evacuation orders, and retirement. >> contributions 11 million, sir. >> once they discover their today officials pleaded with privileges are no longer exclusive, their fragile desperate citizens not to return to their homes too soon. reality will plunge into disarray. >> if you are asked to leave and you're >> lactaid is 100% real milk in an evacuation order area, just without the lactose. delicious too. just ask my old your life is in danger. you friend kevin. need to leave and driving >> nothing like enjoying a cold around some of these areas, one while watching the game. who's they literally look like winning? >> we are my friend. we are. war zones. there are downed power poles, electric wires. >> time to press rewind with there are still some smoldering neutrogena rapid wrinkle fires. it is not safe. we want repair. it has derm proven to get you back into your homes, but we can't allow that retinol expertly formulated to until it is safe for you to do target skin cell turnover and fight not one, but five signs of aging with visible results so. >> let's get to the hard hit in just one week. palisades area. that's where bill weir is now, bill. i mean, neutrogena. vegan i can't go a lot of folks want to get to back to jail. their homes. they want to see, but it's just simply too >> what, did you rob my bank? dangerous for a host of sharing is caring, bro. >> let's make like dice and reasons. right now. >> absolutely. and you get a roll. false sense of security when the blue skies come out and the smoke clears to give you a give it to me. >> subway's got a new meal of little bit of a respite there. the day with chips and a drink but these are still active for just 6.99. or if you're
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crime scenes. we don't know big, hungry. make it a footlong the cause of these fires. and for only $3 more. huh? big so they want to preserve those hungry? is that a thing? that as best they can. they're still should be a thing. find your hotspots, gas leaks, so many fresh with the all new 6.99 different hazards. but the pull meal of the day at subway. to return home and see what is left of >> closed captioning is brought to you by your life is, is unimaginable. sokolov law. for those who haven't >> mesothelioma victims call experienced this right now, you've got so much uncertainty now. $30 billion in trust. money has been set aside. you on where they stay. you know, may be entitled to a portion of when the when the smoke clears and they're finally allowed that money. call one 800 859 2400. that's one back in to see what's left, that's just sort of the beginning of what will be years 800 859 2400. >> we continue to follow the long stress and disruption. and breaking news out of los so many folks thought they were going to get that first look angeles, where the wildfires this morning when the curfew have forced thousands from lifted. but the overwhelming their homes. one couple describes what they saw when demand from community members trying to get back in, the they returned to find their police chief said he has to shut it back down indefinitely. right now. my colleague julia altadena home on fire. >> it, like, unreal. it was like vargas jones is in the foothills of the palisades, just above us here, who saw a literally a nightmare. um, i lot of those residents and was hoping that there would our their struggle earlier. house would still be standing. and just to pull up, to see our julia. >> yeah, bill, look what we're house just fully engulfed in hearing from these residents is flames is heartbreaking. you a frustration. we saw dozens of know, all the work we put in and it's just gone. but it was
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people waiting and still not scary. like initially seeing sure of it. didn't know. the flames on top of the perhaps they hadn't been informed until that moment that they mountain and then for as we were not going to be able to go left, the flames were up and check on their homes or completely, um, had come all the way down the mountain by pick up medication, or check on that time. their pets. you know, we heard so many different kinds of >> heartbreaking indeed. and stories of why people wanted to go up into their neighborhoods. that experience carried many times over. cnn meteorologist we spoke to one man who was allison chinchar is here. the trying to get medication for danger is not over. i mean, there are still fires burning. his father, for his 95 year old you know, there may be father. take a listen. containment in certain areas, but it's still very much a >> a lot of people want to see if their threat. and then the santa ana winds that are going to be back home is intact or not. um, i'm with a vengeance, that does not help. >> i think that's the key, is on a whatsapp chat and there's we've been in kind of this lull for the last few hours, and that's been great news for the firefighters. they've been hundreds of people wanting to able to make the containment know how their home is, how numbers go up a little bit, which is what you want to hear. their neighbor's home is, um, but that is about to change. now you can see on this map and everybody seems to be these are current wind gusts reaching out in the community coming in right now. and you can see, yes, we still have a few places at calm or even and tragic situation. this is those single digit numbers, which is fantastic. but we've the worst of the worst is what also got a couple san it is. bernardino, riverside, santa monica. you're starting to see those tick back up into the teens and those 20 mile per >> and and, bill, look, it's hour ranges. and as we go through the rest of the difficult to even think about afternoon, they are going to
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what the next steps are for continue to go up. that's why these people. they have to go you have the red flag warnings through so much from just the and the fire weather watches in cleanup of, you know, a site effect, because those wind gusts are going to get up to 30 like this to just filing their insurance claims. now, we are 40mph, especially by later on hearing from governor gavin this evening and into the overnight hours. and those humidity levels still expected newsom today signing an to stay on the low side. so we look at the forecast here again executive order that might make by this evening. notice most of the rebuilding of these homes a these areas now starting to little bit easier by waiving jump into the teens. then the some of 20s and 30s. even as we go through the day monday. and the same thing for tuesday and the these environmental impact assessment needs that are same thing for wednesday. so this next event is going to be usually required to build in a little bit more of a prolonged event, and that we're these areas of california. but, you know, speaking to some of really not going to see those the folks here, too, they said, wind gusts drop below that 20 to 30 mile per hour range for i'll believe that when i see it. like, i don't know that i quite long periods of time. can actually trust anyone right again, here's a look at now. and honestly, bill, we tuesday. then going into tuesday evening and into also heard some of of that wednesday, when you look at all of the fires, the containment frustration on the response numbers are going up. that's from the city. you know, we've fantastic. that's what we like been hearing from residents to see. i would also like to point out too, though, for that they did not feel that people to understand this does there was there were enough not mean that the fires are firefighters, that they did not contained in the sense that they are out. it just means feel that there was enough that the firefighters have been clean communication from authorities, including that able to fully contain almost alert that went out erroneously kind of a perimeter around the a couple of days ago to more fire and really prevent it from people than needed to be getting much bigger. however,
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evacuated. still, when you have the wind direction change, especially around 100,000 people, 150,000 when it does it very quickly, sometimes you'll see those people under those evacuation numbers go from 100% orders. but it seems that that containment down to 84. and it next step is still so far away. means that that shift in wind direction, they've lost some and now, with these new orders of that containment. so again, in place, even a just to emphasize the containment numbers going up is what we want to see. but it does not mean the fires are out. and one of the things little bit further. >> julia vargas jones, thank that's been affecting that is you for that perspective up all of these fires we have are there. this is going to be a in this darker yellow color. long marathon. it's going to you can see here that means they are in severe drought. grind on people for months to that ground is completely dry come. and there's a and those embers can latch on psychological toll. in addition to any of that dry vegetation to the physical toll. because and spread rapidly because of even if you're far from where the fires have been raging, the those incredibly dry smoke has triggered these air conditions. since the water year began. now the water year quality warnings, serious begins on october 1st. it's not health concerns for the region. like a calendar year. it so joining us now is doctor doesn't start in january 1st. it follows more of a natural tomas aragon, director of the water cycle. that's why it california department of public begins then. since that date, health, to get a sense of what they have only had 3/100 of an he's working on. doctor, thank you for joining us. what kind inch of rain in los angeles of health issues are we experiencing right now? now, we area. they would normally have heard about, obviously, the the at least 4.5in by this point. folks who fled and were injured in the evacuation when the fire was raging. but right now, are also noting 2nd january is the second wettest month of the you seeing an uptick in year for this area. normally we respiratory problems?
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aren't talking about fires of this size and this type of >> um, yes. this is exactly devastation because the ground what we're expecting. we're in we're in the process right has had some recent rainfall. that is not the case. in fact, now of looking at the numbers you look a year ago last year, so january 9th of last year, along with our locals. the locals have a better grasp on none of the state was in the impact that's having. i do drought because again, this is want to just take one moment to normally the wetter time of year. compare that to this year. you can see not only just give a big thanks to all severe, but even some of the the firefighters and first the higher categories of responders that are coming to drought creeping into portions california. we have we have people coming from as far away of southern california. now we've been showing the forecast as canada and mexico to come here and really and really help rainfall graphic the last several days with really no hope in sight. today is the us. and i also want to just before i make that next comment first day where we've really to just add for anybody that's started to see a little bit of green appear on here, albeit out there that needs any type incredibly small circle of green. >> so that just means some of assistance, we do have a humidity in the air. but it's website that the state has set up. it's really important for not actually translating into some rainfall, which is what everybody to know it is ca.gov they desperately need. >> and you're still talking forward slash l.a. fires and day six and day seven from now. it's not really the imminent that's l.a. fires with an s. rainfall that we would need in the next couple of days. >> i think that graphic that and for anybody that needs any those numbers really hit home, because when you're talking any issues around mental about less than an inch of rain health. if you feel that you just need to talk to somebody, since october, i mean, this is you can go to mental health. no win. yeah. no win in terms dot. ca.gov. of the dryness and the
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possibility of what we're >> that's seeing. all right. thank you so a great point to to sort of much, allison. all right. as hammer down on the stress of crews battle the deadly this, the ptsd that will come wildfires in l.a., we are out of this. i think a learning the harrowing stories generation of los angelenos of families that had to evacuate before they lost will have this as a marker in everything in the fires. like their lives to experience what the antenori family, they lost what encouragement do you give to people who are going through their home, their belongings these problems, and really, what resources are there for and the ashes of their late them? daughter. >> so we want to we want to make sure that >> we had a daughter 15 years people have are able to connect ago. she'd be 15 and she to professional services if they need them. the most passed away when she was one, and her ashes were in our home important thing during any and. when they're gone, like type of traumatic event is to every memory, every piece of have positive social physical evidence of her life connections. it is the most important things. the emotions is just are going to be overwhelming. it can be impacting everything gone. you're trying to do. it's natural to feel this way. please, please connect with folks. the other >> kobe, the making of a legend message we're getting out about about wildfire smoke is premieres january 25th on cnn. to appreciate it's not just >> as a cardiologist, when i put my patients on a statin to the people who are directly reduce cholesterol, i also tell near the fire, it's the whole them it can deplete their coq10
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respite from the howling winds and smoke. they're picking back up again, fueling wildfires all around us here in los angeles county right now. fire officials say the eaton fire up around altadena 27% contained. they've made ground there, and the largest at nearly 24,000 acres. the palisades fire still only 11% contained. that number belies the fierce fight that happened in mandeville canyon overnight. natasha chen is in the hills north of brentwood. there, on the edge of that palisades fire, which is also flirting with encino overnight. natasha, where do things stand right now? are you feeling these gusts a little bit, bill. >> in fact, i'm just watching which direction my hair is blowing to kind of tell where the wind is at the moment. you can tell it's going this way. not too fiercely at the moment, but that's good because it's blowing back into areas that have already been burned instead of coming toward us on this ridge here. we're standing just over the
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mandeville canyon, where there are a lot of homes down below, and they are so thankful that the winds were favorable overnight so that they could keep it out of that area. we are seeing some smoke here and there below the below us, right there. so there are active fires going on. it's just that they are working pretty successfully at this moment to push it that way. now, within the last hour, we also saw some bulldozers coming through this residential neighborhood, trying to cut some lines there and heading toward that direction. so and also more aircraft to traveling that way to pick up water to bring it back and dump it on the fires over there behind us. so a lot of activity going on to play to attack this fire and hopefully take this opportunity. while the winds are a little bit calmer to to get more of a handle on this because we know that winds are expected to pick back up. and in the meantime, you've got a lot of residents who are very desperate right now. they've been trying to get back into the fire zones,
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trying to see what's left of their homes, or to pick up important things that they might have left behind. unfortunately, officials tell them they simply can't accommodate that today. they have all hands on deck, as you can imagine, and just not enough resources for police to escort these residents back. hopefully they can figure something out to help them down the line. but right now, still trying to actively fight this fire. bill. >> all right. natasha chen, stay there. we'll check back with you throughout the hour. hundreds, thousands of firefighters now from, i believe, eight states, mexico and canada and international effort rallying around these right now. so the cavalry has arrived, and now it's sort of how much can they contain before the next big fight? but then there are those who have already been lost and still trying to get our arms around and our minds around the enormity of that. these double fires have taken at least 16 lives. there's 16 others that remain
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missing, and officials say that number could go up. the mayor today of l.a. said donations continue to pour in from around the world, in the country to help these victims. mayor bass, vowing her city will rebuild from the ashes we will be prepared. >> we will get through this, but it takes the unity and the spirit that i saw yesterday to make sure that los angeles comes out of this, a much better city. and the generosity we are seeing proves that we will. more than 13,000 people have donated over $6 million to the california community foundation's wildlife recovery fund. >> and cnn's gloria pazmino joins us now. gloria, you're learning more about the actual lives, the personalities, the stories of the people lost in these wildfires. what can you tell us? >> yeah, bill, over the last several days, my colleagues have been doing incredible work trying to piece together the
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details about the victims that have been lost. >> 16 people confirmed dead so far, 11 of them from the eaton fire and five from the palisades fire. we've heard stories of people who stayed to fight the flames, the disabled and the elderly who could not get out, and those who stayed because they had fought off smoke and flames before and thought they could do it again. we learned the story of rodney nickerson. he was a grandfather who raised an entire family in the house, which is now burned to the ground. he was 82 years old, a retired aerospace engineer who worked at lockheed martin. he lived in the neighborhood for more than 50 years, and as the fire was approaching, he refused to leave. his family said that he was very attached to the neighborhood and the house where his children and his grandchildren had grown up. his son spoke to him tuesday morning, as he did on most days, he told us. but as the day went on, he wasn't able to reach him. our affiliate in los angeles spoke with his
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daughter. take a listen. >> this is where we've been our whole life, and my son tried to get him to leave. and my neighbors and myself. and he said, he'll be fine. i'll be here when you guys come back. and he said his house would be here. his house is here. and he was here, too. he was in his bed when i found him. >> she was able to find him in bed. the remains of his body. we're also learning about anthony and justin mitchell. they were a father and son. anthony used a wheelchair and lived with his son, who had cerebral palsy. they were never able to evacuate their house in altadena. anthony was found near the bed of his son. now there are many more. bill, we're trying to piece together the details, but as you have said earlier, this is going to be a long process. we know that 16 more people have been reported missing so far, 12in ian, four in the palisades. but officials have made it clear
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that they expect the numbers to increase over the next several days. you've been in lahaina. i was there for that fire as well, and we know that this is a painstaking, long process. once authorities are able to get into the area to do the recovery. cadaver dogs being used in that effort. but it may be a while until we have a full picture of just how many lives have been lost. bill. >> gloria pazmino. thank you. and yes, our hearts go out to all who knew and loved those people who were lost. firefighters now continue to battle the eaton fire near altadena. that is where several thousand of the 10,000 buildings destroyed so far were at one point. next, we're going to talk to a family that lost their family home to that blaze. stay with us the whole story with anderson
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national airport. this is cnn. >> firefighters in los angeles county are at a critical stage in their six day battle. now against these deadly wildfires. high winds are expected to make their efforts to, or at least high winds are expected to intensify again later on today. and this is leaving tens of thousands of residents in limbo as they wait to desperately return to their homes. it's simply not safe yet, so they can't do that in the communities where they have been evacuated. let me talk to you now, a couple of people who are very familiar with the altadena community. many structures were burned to the ground there in altadena. this is mother and son, kay young and aaron flowers. i understand both of you now were born and raised in altadena. do i have that right? yes. okay. so, kay, you still live in altadena? tell me about where you were at the time of hearing it was time to evacuate. and what you know
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of your home right now. >> okay, so my name is kay. last name is young. and we have two homes. the one home is my mom's in upper altadena and her home was destroyed completely. um, my home is maybe five minutes away, and, um, my home as of thursday was still standing. >> um. >> wonderful, right? i mean, i mean, this is bittersweet. thank goodness your home is still standing, as far as you know, but sadly, you know, your mom's home is not. i know this represents some real history that you and your family have with altadena. tell me about, you know, this very meaningful and very deep, rich history of altadena and how your family's role in the history of altadena altadena. um, you know, just resonates with you. >> um, i'm looking at some of the pictures that are being posted, and it's like bringing
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back certain themes, certain memories. um, i do like i said, i live in pasadena. i have been in pasadena, raised and born in pasadena, and i also have my son and two other, um, kids that were born and raised in pasadena. um, we were hoping that this year my grandchild, because he is expecting a daughter. um, yeah, a daughter. so that would have been three generations that are here. um, are we actually that would have been four. but i am born and raised. been here for 63 years, and, um, there's nothing but memories there. i on the thursday after the fire, i was able to walk approximately three miles to get to my mom's home. and there is so much disaster going up to the loma alta area, going down loma alta, seeing the school that i actually the middle school that i actually attended was burned the that all the homes on that
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particular street. my mom's street, you can actually see through the two, um, the street behind and the street in front. um, my my kids, my my nieces and nephew all have history in that home. and it's not there anymore. >> yeah, our grandma bought that house in 1959. >> she's a retired nurse. my mom's a retired nurse. um, uh, there's a lot, of lot of pride in our community. um, i currently live in santa cruz, and i moved there in 2018 when they had the paradise fires. um, and so i saw something similar, as far as whole, you know, cities and communities being burnt down. and, um, i mean, even now, six years later, they're still building. you know, and i think that's the part for me that i'm a little concerned about, just future wise, is, you know, when, um, you know, the uncertainty of our current home or my mom's current home. you know, how we knew it was still standing was from a news video
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because they were filming the the elementary school across the street from us burning. that's the only reason that we even knew our home was still standing at that time. oh my gosh. but, um, yeah, it's a it's a yeah, it's a scary scenario. i mean, i flew down as soon as i could. i got in yesterday, and so i'm just trying to help, um, you know, help my mom and my younger brother who was there with her. you know, thank god that he was there to actually help my mom. and, um, you know, pack up cats and whatever clothes on their back. and, you know, fortunately, we have friends who do support, you know, we're staying at a friend's house who also lost her home, and she's opened her home to us, you know, and so that just shows how powerful the community actually is. wow. >> and that is so wonderful. i mean, aaron and, you know, i mean, i can tell, you know, through you and through you, kay, how meaningful, how important altadena has been for your lives. you know, this is generational wealth. and, you know, let me tell you, i've been to altadena one time. and when i was there and i had great breakfast at a cute
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little place right downtown, and i remember thinking, oh, my gosh, this is like the best kept secret. this little community best kept secret to me. i didn't know about it. you know, we happened upon it and thought, what an amazing, beautiful place. and you're now the second, um, you know, homeowners that i've talked to today from altadena and it's palpable. you can you can tell just how meaningful this community has been for you. but, you know, particularly for a lot of black families where there is generational wealth, the history is deep of of owning homes, you know, very early on, as you mentioned, your your grandmother in the 1950s. um, is it your concern now that it's not just a community, but, you know, family traditions, this generational wealth that is going to be difficult to reclaim, especially in california, where it is just so expensive. what are your concerns about, you know, the recovery of of of what has become, you know, a beautiful tradition of, of buying homes,
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owning homes right near your family? >> yeah. i mean, i think the, the reality of, you know, having a child and not being able to take them back to the place in which you were raised is shocking. the place that you call home. yeah. um, you know, there's always the fear that, you know, the people who are here won't be able to rebuild. and, you know, you'll see those certain pillars in the community and not be there anymore, you know? um, i'm hoping that the younger generations will stay. um, i'm hoping that there's resources available for the ones that are still here. i think for now, everyone's just waiting. i mean, the fires are still going. you know, the winds are picking back up in a few days. uh, we don't even know the status of the house that my mom may currently have. so we just have to brace and prepare for that as well. >> well, wishing you the best on that. oh. go ahead. okay. yeah. >> you know, then i'm saying even if it is standing, those whose homes were not destroyed, there's still, um, the air in the in the, in the home, the
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air quality in the home. you know, you can't live like that. yoknow, with such a severe damage that was in the environment. so your quality of air in your home, your clothes, your fabric on the walls. and then that's another thing. um, electricity. my home may have been saved. >> and running water. right? >> yeah. running water. how? the electricity. how are they going to be able to let me live in my house? but then yet still, their surrounding areas. school across the street, the plumbing. how can they even make it so i am able to utilize that and get back in my home per se, versus a person that's home is totally destroyed. >> yeah. all very legitimate concerns. i mean, the recovery is going to be very difficult, but our prayers go out to you and hopefully the recovery will be forthcoming. you will be able to return to that beautiful community and continue on with incredible family history. kay young, aaron flowers, all the best to both of you. what a
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pleasure to talk to you. thank you so much. all the best thank you. for more information about how you can help the los angeles area wildfire victims, go to cnn.com/vote. slash or text wildfires to 70, 70, 70 to donate. when we come back, california's governor tells cnn all fire damaged buildings will be inspected within 14 days as tens of thousands are still under evacuation orders and many are trying to reach their homes and assess the damage. >> it's okay. >> it's okay. vanessa. >> we are healthy. >> we're here. we have everything. >> we have our lives. >> that's all it matters. okay. >> i lay on my back, frozen, thinking the darkest thoughts and then everything changed. dana said you're still you. and i love you. >> super man. the christopher
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increasingly popular place to live over the generations, it took a real toll on the coastal environment. so l.a. county is a notoriously difficult place to build, especially along the coast. but today, governor gavin newsom signed an executive order suspending some of those environmental regulations in order to help victims from the wildfires recover and rebuild faster. joining me now, my colleague kyung lah just spoke with governor newsom. kyung, what did he tell you? >> well, bill, what we are really understanding after our conversation with the governor, is that his goal right now is to cut through the bureaucratic red tape, which, frankly, as somebody who lives here, it can be a lot. >> so what we are hearing from the governor right now are some concrete timelines that anyone who has lost their home like this can take away as something that they can hold the state accountable for. the governor says as he was walking around altadena here he was walking
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with cal fire and other state fire officials, and what he was saying to cnn is that within 15 days, he is hoping to have full assessments done of each of these homes. we're talking about thousands of homes. now, why are these assessments important? you have to have an assessment of your loss by the state in order to take that to your insurance and to take it to fema. you can then start the process of getting some money, trying to figure out how you're going to rebuild. so it's a critical piece of information. the governor says, come back to me in two weeks. tell me if we are on the same timeline. that timeline may vary. but he says the goal again is to cut through the red tape through various executive orders, like the one you just mentioned, bill. and then comes the even bigger problem. the more problem that everybody in the state is going to feel is the issue of insurance. take a listen. what about insurance? i mean, we know we live here. your house is insured. my house is insured. >> mine is mine. >> i'm the one i. i have. my
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dad's house is under the fair plan. >> the state's plan. >> and it's very expensive. very expensive. and it's it's not great coverage. right. >> so what do you tell people? >> we tell them that we are not only assessing all of that in real time and have hired an independent group to look to stress test not just the insurance market. the utility market in california as well. we have that experience after camp led to one of the largest bankruptcies in u.s. history, the largest investor owned utility, pge. from that came a wildfire fund to help stabilize that market. and i say that because we're also mindful of the ongoing investigation as to the cause of this. and part of that cost determination. no one has an understanding fully yet of what caused these fires beyond just hurricane force winds, unprecedented winds and the driest conditions since the 1850s. as it relates to this dry january here in southern california. combination of those two things. but was it a
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asked, can you tell whether they are compelled to uphold the law banning tiktok yeah you can. >> the law is going to be upheld because most of the justices were not viewing this case as a first amendment restriction on free speech. >> they were viewing this as a national security case in the united states, protecting its national security. >> so this is happening at a time when president elect donald trump has voiced possible support for tiktok. here's what associate justice sonia sotomayor had to say. >> i am a little concerned that a suggestion that a president elect or anyone else should not enforce the law. when a law is in effect and has prohibited a certain action that a company would choose to ignore enforcement on any assurance other than the change in that law.
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>> so it sounds like preemptively, she's saying, you know, don't try it. but if you know, trump is to try and save the app, dismiss any supreme court ruling that upholds the ban, then what? >> well, president trump does have the power to buy tiktok some time to either divest itself through spinning off from the chinese government, or to allow tiktok to assure national security personnel in the government that there's no real national security risk. but at the end of the day, i think tiktok is going to have to spin itself off to put the government at ease regarding the big national security issues. >> usually, when things are matters of national security, you know it might be handled in other branches of government. this is quite unique, is it not, that this is a supreme court case? >> it is unique for the government to come in and impose this really severe sanction of divest or your
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band, but the circumstances are unique in that you have one of four nations china, iran, north korea or russia, owning a very powerful social media platform. so the circumstances do warrant this very unique action. >> all right. constitutional law. attorney jeff lewis, thank you so much. great to see you again. >> thanks for having me. >> all right. tonight, a special hour of the deadly fires in los angeles. and the residents facing unthinkable tragedy. join anderson cooper for the whole story. that's tonight at 8 p.m. eastern, right here on cnn.
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