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premieres january 25th on cnn this is cnn breaking news. >> you're in the cnn newsroom. i'm jessica dean in new york alongside my colleague erin burnett, who's been in los angeles. and breaking news at this hour. firefighters in california working tirelessly to establish lines of containment before powerful santa ana winds, with potential gusts of up to 50mph, pick up again and potentially spread embers to dry, brittle areas. now, right now, 27% of that eaton fire 89% of the hurst fire contained. however, in the pacific palisades with the palisades fire more than 23,000 acres have been scorched. that fire is currently at just 11% containment, and with that, fears are rising that those containment numbers could dip. i want to go out

to erin burnett now, who is there in california? erin is at a staring. erin, you're at a staging area where all of these people are coming and going as they make this huge effort to try to keep these fires from getting worse and doing even more damage. >> that's right. and right now, there's the tragedy behind us along these palisades hills and malibu. up behind us along the pacific coast highway. utter destruction. and as this city faces the trauma of that disaster, the situation is, is really, in a sense, out of control. firefighters doing everything that they can. they have been using dc ten. they've been using c-130s. they're using what they call super scoopers. scooping sea water and reservoir water and dumping it on the fires. all of those resources brought to bear eight states. jessica. canada and mexico have sent support. all of that here. national guard, they've now got 2500 national guard deployed. and we do see them around the city at checkpoints. so all of that in

place. and yet, as you point out, they are those containment numbers for this palisades fire at 11%. it's not just that. it's only at 11%. it's also that it's the winds. and it's i don't know if you can see a little bit of blowing here behind us now as they're starting to pick up these red flag warnings of severe winds again over these next few days. jessica, it is really the fear. deputy fire chief, just telling you and me within these past couple of hours that no matter what the firefighters do and they are doing everything the way the wind can take an ember and bring it somewhere means that how this turns out is completely, at this point, unpredictable. they are at the mercy of the winds. and it literally comes down to that no matter everything and every resource that they are bringing to bear. >> jessica, it is incredible. and i thought it was so poignant that he said when you asked him, like, what do you need at this point? and he was so clear about it. he just said, we need mother nature to give us a break. and of course, that's not anything that anyone can control. to your point, erin, stand by. we're going to get right back to you.

first, i want to go to cnn's natasha chen, who is in the hills north of brentwood. so that would be on the eastern side of that palisades fire more in inland than where erin is right now. natasha, what is the latest you're seeing well, jessica, i'm not feeling any wind on my face right now, and we might be in the final hours of relative calm before those more serious winds pick back up. >> and that is what we are very concerned about. those high winds could bring those flames back, bring those hotspots back up. it could create new fires. and that those red flag warnings won't actually expire until wednesday. and so we're talking about the next three days of at least preventative power shut offs, where a lot of the metro area might be in the dark to prevent another disaster from happening. but for the moment, because we've had relatively favorable winds today, this afternoon, there have been a lot of water drops going on behind me because those hills

behind us, those are darkened out because that burned yesterday. and you're seeing one helicopter right now taking off after a water drop. so they've been doing that and they're going to be doing a lot of preventative laying out of retardant in certain areas, knowing that if the winds pick back up very soon, they may not be able to fly a lot of aircraft to do this. and so in the meantime, you have a lot of people throughout the area suffering and a lot of people stepping up as well. we know that there was a grassroots effort to suddenly bring a lot of donations to the santa anita track there. i think we have some images of, and it's so overwhelming and really heartwarming to see the community come together like that. cal fire did put out a message that to please not bring perishable food to incident base camps, instead to go to l.a. works.com to see how people can help in person or to donate and to to really look at what's needed most. but the

effort that people just everyday people trying to do any little thing to help their neighbor has been incredible because everyone here knows someone who's been affected. >> yeah, it is something that is going to change the face of of los angeles and those communities truly forever. it is that significant of the moment. and as you mentioned, natasha, right now, they're trying to make the most of this relative calm that you say, you know, with the winds not picking up just yet where you are, what are you learning more about these prison inmates who were helping fight these fires, acting as firefighters right. >> the california department of corrections and rehabilitation told me today that they currently have 931 inmates fighting the fire alongside fire crews. that includes 114 support staff. so they are actively trying to cut fire lines. they're removing brush from structures to prevent fires from getting closer to more properties. they

are right next to those firefighters. they have been trained. they are part of what's called the fire camps. and they are paid. and they have been doing this for a while. and so it's just more people to help, because right now they need as many resources as they can. jessica. >> they need all the hands they can get. natasha chen, thank you so much for that reporting. let's go back to erin burnett again. she's at that staging center. and erin, i was mentioning that where you are is more west. you're right there by the water. natasha is more inland where they are trying to stop this fire from progressing more inland. but it is kind of interesting to see your hair is blowing in the wind. you can tell it is picking up where you are. where is where natasha is. it seems a bit a bit calmer, but that is the name of the game at this point. is is what these winds decide to do. >> that's right. and how they can move through the canyons, which can be those sort of narrow paths, those eddies, in a sense, air eddies that can be created that affects aircrafts

ability to actually drop fire retardant, which is why they have been doing in some cases, as natasha is reporting, sort of pre dropping fire retardant in some of these neighborhoods that they anticipate could be at risk. and they're doing that to try to try to just in advance prep. of course they don't know where those embers will go. now the los angeles county fire chief today did say that they have enough water. and that's obviously so important. jessica, we know about the dry hydrants in pacific palisades behind me. and of course, the reservoir. and governor gavin newsom has now said he's launching an investigation into what happened with not just the hydrants, but also the reservoir, that it had sat empty for a year for nearly a full year before the deadly outbreak that has destroyed the entire pacific palisades. the l.a. county supervisor is with me now. lindsey horvath, also former mayor of west hollywood. and lindsay, i appreciate your time. so can we just start off with the water situation heading into what everyone anticipates is going to be an intense battle here over

these next hours, day or two, as these red flag warnings are there. do you feel confident that fire crews have the water that they need anywhere? they need to be to fight this? >> so, as you said, our l.a. county fire chief has determined that because we have redundancies. >> exactly. for situations like this, we have the water in los angeles county to deliver for our residents. we know that they don't just come from one area or another based on where the winds are coming from. that also determines where we're able to access the water, especially for the aerial drops. so we have, if one in los angeles county system, if one if we're having issues with one area of water, of water tanks or access, we have another way to be able to deliver. and that's how we've been able to make progress in the topanga canyon area, for example, over the past few days. and i was on site in mandeville canyon last night

watching exactly how they were attacking it. >> and they were successfully able to do that, which i know is a miracle for so many, that that looming cloud over brentwood yesterday, in terms of the water and your anticipation, i mean, obviously there's there's water. you talk about hydrants as one situation and tanks, but also just the ability to use the sea water, which they had used with those super scooper aircraft continued to use reservoir water as well from some of those, those bigger planes, do they do you anticipate that they is there sort of a wind limit at which they're going to have to curtail some of that use of equipment and water? >> yes. that's one of the dangers of the red flag days. so we've learned that the aircraft cannot participate if the winds are 35 miles an hour or higher. so that's about the time when they get grounded. so what we're really trying to do yesterday and today is take advantage of the lower winds as

we go into the red flag event tomorrow. we know that that's that's potentially a complication we'll have to face, as we did last week. >> and so really, i know you're just in this race against time. you look at the forecast for the winds. do you feel completely at the mercy of which way it hits a canyon or which way? i mean, it's very hard to predict. i know that deputy fire chief from cal fire a bit ago had told me that they were thinking they'd be coming from the north northeast. that was that was an expectation. what are you thinking now? because i know it affects where you pre you know, you preplan assets. you preplan to have a fire battle that that you think might happen. >> yes. that was the direction of the winds yesterday, which is why we did the drops in mandeville canyon. the preemptive retardant drops which helped cover the bottom of the canyon. and then in the evening, they were able to do the water drops to extinguish the fire. so that combination

really allowed them to have a lot of success there. um, the direction of the winds also helped start to move the fire away from one area and topanga, which i know was the hot spot yesterday. and though we do know if the winds change, that really determines how they have to respond. so we're dealing with the things that are in our control. that's the evacuation orders, making sure that people get out of the way. and that helps keep our first responders safe. so anyone who's under an evacuation order, we are insisting that you leave because that becomes a complication. our first responders just don't have time for as we go into these very dangerous conditions. >> and do you anticipate having to, you know, issue? and i know, you know, there are certain things you just don't know outside your control. i realize embers, things like that that are carried on the wind. but where you have established the evacuation orders right now, where there has not yet been fire, write those mandatory zones. how confident do you feel that that is the extent of the

evacuation? or is that also in your mind, just a total unknown right now? >> well, it could change. i was actually heartened to see that the evacuation warning areas didn't shift today, and that means we've been able to focus intently on where the fire has popped up and really give it all we've got in these in these areas, once the winds pick up, depending on how they move, that will determine whether and how we have to evacuate. the good news is we've been issuing consistent warnings. and so as long as people are heeding those warnings, which means they are ready to go, they've packed what they are going to take with them and they get out of there. um, we will be in, in much better shape. i know some people who have gotten those warnings are already leaving, and that's a big help. >> yes. and i want to ask you also about the fire retardant, because i understand that. and the deputy fire chief was explaining, obviously they dropped that. but when the winds pick up, it becomes completely ineffectual because it becomes essentially a mist. right? you're dropping it from

200ft up. winds are coming at 30 plus miles an hour, and it can become very ineffectual. so as a result, they've been doing as much as they can in advance, but also trying to prep some areas, maybe drop on some structures in the brentwood area or natasha chen was reporting ahead of this anticipated wind event. how widespread has some of that been where you're dropping retardant on existing structures? >> well, we we've been around what is currently the evacuation order area to ensure that we're doing all that we can for to keep the fires out of those areas. last night, i saw in mandeville canyon, as they were holding where the concentration of the fire was, embers were flying. and as they fly, they can have these spots of fire that pop up. and as the fire runs up, that's that's really the danger. so this retardant is is an incredible help. but if we don't have those vehicles in the air, that becomes another challenge that

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next 24 hours. you've got the critical and elevated fire risk for the rest of the day today, but also into monday. and that does include the city of los angeles. but a lot of the surrounding areas to where they're also going to be experiencing some of these really strong winds. you can see through the overnight more of those 20, 30 and 40 mile per hour winds are expected to jump back up. it could even reach as high as 50 to 60mph in some spots. as we go through tuesday and even wednesday of this week. so this is not going to be a short term event. we are going to continue to see these high winds, at least through wednesday. now when we look at the containment numbers, they have gone up. this is good news. they've been able to take advantage of this little bit of a reprieve from the winds. the last 24 to 36 hours. the one thing you will note that all of these areas have in common is this dark orange shaded area behind them that is showing that they are under the severe drought category, and it's because of how little rain this area has had, not just this month, because we've had no measurable rain in the l.a. area so far in january. but even going back farther

than that, when you go back all the way to october 1st, and that's not just a random number. that is actually the beginning of the water year. and they do that instead of starting it in january 1st, because it matches more of the natural water cycle. so when you go all the way back to october 1st, the los angeles area has only had 3/100 of an inch. normally this time of year they would have at least 4.5in on the ground, helping to kind of limit the dryness for a lot of the vegetation. and that's what these fires have been able to do. they're going across the incredibly dry ground, all of the dry brush, the dry vegetation just becomes easy fuel for those fires. and even just one year ago, we had no part of california under drought. and now much of southern california is in that drought category. >> all right, allison, and, you know, we've heard some of that brush as we've been hearing from officials here, has not been cleared in decades in some of these areas that are now under threat, making this such a fraught and precarious situation. jessica.

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people and homes. as these winds threaten to pick back up. meantime, governor gavin newsom has been on the ground in altadena touring. the damage from the deadly wildfires. he's laying out his plans to help communities recover and rebuild. and earlier, cnn's kyung lah spoke with the governor about the challenges ahead. and kyung joins us now. kyung, there are many, many challenges ahead in terms of what it's going to take to make people whole and to rebuild these communities. what did the governor tell you? >> well, the governor is trying to reach out to the people who are living in this. the one thing that we have heard from a lot of the fire victims is that they don't have anything concrete, they don't know where to go next. i mean, how do you step forward when this is what you're living with? what the governor is saying today is he is offering a concrete timeline on getting an assessment. he is setting a deadline of 14 days. it is critical to have that assessment to take to your

insurance, to get fema rolling. and essentially what newsom is saying is he is in a state notorious for red tape. he's going to slash it. >> so what is this assessment? >> help explain why we need this and and what this means for, you know, that homeowner you got through the state fire marshal cal fire working with county partners, teams of two go in. >> they will go into a property like this. they'll assess and they will photograph, and then they will post online after it's verified about a 12 hour process. and people can go on a website. they don't have to physically be here to know if their property is damaged. and that will then begin the process for the property owner on insurance and getting us to a point where we can start the rebuild process. >> how quickly do you anticipate being able to do that? >> well, as i said, i want all the inspections done within 14 days. every single structure that's been impacted by these fires. so that's thousands of homes, thousands of homes. and so that's the mandate. whatever resources they need. we said

we're going to provide it. and then we're looking right now at debris removal. and you're looking at herculean effort. well, you tell the debris is gone. and and we said we want nine months. is the goal nine months to a year. you're looking at the magnitude of this. and with the hazmat side, it has to be done in a way that services the long term needs. and then obviously you're going to learn from this process. >> and then what about insurance? >> i mean, we know we live here. >> your your house is insured. my house is insured. >> yeah. mine is mine. i'm the one i, i have my dad's house is under the fair plan. the state's plan. it's very expensive, very expensive. and it's it's not great coverage. >> right. >> so what do you tell people? >> we tell them that we are not only assessing all of that in real time, and have hired an independent group to look to stress test, not just the insurance market, but the utility market in california as well. we've been making a lot of reforms in our insurance market, and we'll need to make subsequent reforms something that's particularly pressing

for this community. >> you're standing in is lack of insurance. a lot of people inherited homes or were working class. what do you what about people who didn't have insurance? >> and that's i mean, and that's going to be the most difficult and challenging thing. and that's where fema comes in. that's where the sba comes in. that's where the state of california comes in, where the federal government comes in. that's where philanthropy comes in. people have lost their lives. they've lost their businesses. they've lost hope. and we've got to restore the hope and then restore their lives and businesses and opportunities. >> and you heard the governor there talking about the debris removal and the pace that he wants to move at. he added on to that, saying that all of this that you're seeing here, this is a lot of this is toxic materials, jessica, because, you know, if you think about lithium batteries today or how your appliances are made, all of that stuff seeps into the ground. what type of foundation needs to be built? can you build on the existing foundation? so there are a

number of challenges ahead, jessica, no doubt about it. >> all right. kyung lah thank you so much for that reporting, erin. >> all right. jessica, and just one of the things that you notice here, it's not just the the fact that you've got evacuation zones and places that are ghost towns. obviously, the complete and utter devastation of the fire zones. but what that's meant is all these people, more than 100,000 evacuated or homeless, many seeking refuge with family and friends, many at hotels. we have seen them all. it is an odd thing to say, but one thing that stands out is the number of dogs. dogs are everywhere and they're everywhere in the hotels. when people leave their home, if they can only take one thing, they take their beloved pet. it is so important in people's lives. there's also now, of course, animals that have been driven out of these fire zones. some animals that are seeking shelter. dia duvernet joins me now, president and ceo of pasadena humane society and dia. it is incredible the the pets that you see everywhere. and it is a

defining part of this crisis. what is the situation like at your shelter? >> thanks, erin, for bringing attention to this human and animal crisis that is just unimaginable. we've taken in over 500 animals, close to 600 animals since the disaster started. >> originally many, most were coming from evacuated families who needed temporary shelter for their pets. we've started to send search, rescue and recovery teams out into the affected areas in partnership with shelters from throughout the state and national resources, as well. we are operating a dispatch line here where people can call and report where pets might have been left, and we can check those specific addresses we are seeing some people coming back to reclaim their pets, who are finding, though, that they don't have homes to return to. and so we're starting to think about

how we can provide more, longer term support for these animals, for these families that don't have a place to go. it is really a tragic crisis. >> when in these zones and in the palisades, i mean, there is nothing alive. in fact, yesterday when there were a couple of birds that flew over, we all actually stopped in our tracks because everything up there is gone and everything up there is dead. and a couple of people that came back, somebody was talking about, they were able to get two of their pets, one of their cats died. i mean, this this happened. and and i'm curious about what your biggest what your biggest issue is right now. what is the biggest problem that you face as you are trying to rise to this crisis? >> well, i'll tell you that we are finding animals that are alive with these strike teams that we're sending out into the

community. pasadena humane is a nonprofit organization, but we serve not only pasadena, we serve ten surrounding areas in altadena is one of the areas that we serve. and as you know, that community has been completely destroyed. um, but we are finding animals that are alive. we are having stray animals come to us who are suffering from burns, singed paws, smoke inhalation, um, dehydration. so we are treating these animals in our intensive care unit. we have five veterinarians on staff. we're also calling in resources. specialty veterinarians to help us with some of the species that are coming in that we don't normally see on a daily basis at the shelter. um, we are really mobilizing a huge statewide network of animal welfare organizations and calling in national partners as well to help us respond. we are

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>> with the fires still raging across southern california, those impacted by the fires are left without their homes and everyday necessities. that includes diapers, food, clothing. and as the federal and state governments begin deploying resources, some californians are taking it upon themselves to help their neighbors right now. joining us are the ceos of the national nonprofit baby to baby kelly sawyer patricof and norah weinstein. baby to baby helps provide assistance to children and families all across the country. thank you so much to both of you for being here. i know you guys have just jumped to it and you've been working night and day to try to to get to these families and kids. kelly, i want to start first with you. you guys focused specifically on some of the most vulnerable among us children, families, especially those who live in poverty, who are often the hardest hit in these disasters. what have you been seeing i mean, baby to baby always focuses on children and children's needs. >> so at this time we're seeing a huge need for diapers,

formula, baby food, blankets. families have lost their homes, been evacuated, are living with 3 or 4 families, you know, in one, um, apartment or hotel room. so we're really seeing people coming through our pop up distributions, driving through in robes, in flip flops and slippers. they just really had to leave their house in the middle of the night. there was a knock at the door. they left with nothing. so right now we're really focused on children's needs and getting them the basic essentials they need, making sure that children are fed with schools closed, where usually a lot of the families that we serve get their meals. they're really not receiving food. so we're just making sure that these basic, critical, essential items are being distributed, whether it's through our shelters, the school districts we serve at, the evacuation sites, we have trucks going out delivering these essentials. we're hosting pop up distributions. and then

we have also volunteer sessions happening at our headquarters here in los angeles, where the community is coming together and showing up and creating these bundles for children in need. >> yeah. and, nora, look, i think any parent out there can understand there's a lot that's needed, especially when your child is a baby or a newborn. you that's a specific need. and then when they get a little bit older, just how traumatic it is to be without your home, without maybe that favorite stuffed animal, much less focusing on making sure they're getting fed, that they have diapers, that they have those real necessities. how are you making sure you're getting this to them? how do the logistics of all of this work, right. >> well, on a year round basis, we work all over the country, but we're our home town is los angeles. >> and so we have a network of 470 organizations that we work with all year long, and that spans from homeless shelters, resource centers, school

districts. >> and so we were able the minute the fire started to reach out to all 470 partners, ask them what their specific needs were and hear from them, what items, what size diapers, what requests were coming in and began filling them immediately. >> so far, we've given out 1.5 million items to the children in los angeles, but our work is certainly just beginning, and it's going to be a very long road of recovery ahead. >> and that's the thing we're looking at video while we're talking to you, all of of just the utter devastation. kelly, i know you guys are there in l.a. it's also your home, and i'm sure you both know plenty of people who have been affected by this. um, it's just it's almost incomprehensible to begin to wrap your arms around how much people are going to need, not just today, not just tomorrow. as nora was saying, this is going to go on for a while. >> yeah, we have a long road ahead. and, you know, we work

in disasters and we have been for the past decade. so to have one here in our own hometown where our headquarters is obviously affects all of us, our team, our staff, and so we're working to try and make sure that we're meeting the needs of families in this moment. i think seeing the outpouring of support from across the country has been really inspiring, even just today, having, you know, a room full of 100 volunteers here, packing up hygiene kits and putting comfort items together into bundles with diapers and shampoo and all of the things that a child would need in this moment is really so heartwarming to see. so it is what we do every day. but having it here in our hometown where we're all affected and we personally know people affected, has been really amazing to see the support. >> yeah, i'm sure it has, nora, for people out there who want to help, what do they do? >> well, they can do a few

things. donating funds is obviously is always fast and easy, and we're able to understand the needs on the ground. so by donating funds, we can specifically put together the needs, the amount of diapers, the clothing, the wipes, the hygiene items, real time with those donations. and they can go to baby to baby org to make those donations. anyone with a company that has items, big palletized items available can contact us as well. and again, those are the high need items, the same ones we keep talking about. it sounds like a broken record record, but it is those same diapers, wipes, hygiene items, clothing and also if you do live in the l.a. area, we are hosting volunteer sessions every day. people can come and do their part and um, which has again been really heartwarming to see. and then just following us on our social media, baby to baby, and we're updating it

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from the palisades fire. we've heard the stories of people who stayed at their house because they wanted to protect it. people who had experienced smoke and wildfires before and thought that they could fight the flames. we've heard the stories of the disabled and the elderly who couldn't get out, and we've heard the story of rodney nickerson. he was a grandfather who lived in his house, raising two generations, his children and his grandchildren. his family told us that he was very attached to the house and the neighborhood. he was 82 years old, a retired aerospace engineer who worked at lockheed martin. he lived in the neighborhood for more than 50 years. now, his son spoke to him on tuesday morning, as the two usually did. they were very close, but he said that as the day went on, he was not able to get a hold of him. he said that he was going to stay behind and that he'd be there when they returned. our affiliate in los angeles spoke to his daughter.

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here, which is the neighbors helping neighbors and how people have. i mean, you're looking at all of these people there and they're just showing up for each other, and it is an incredible thing to see this sense of community, even as we wait for that sun to set behind you and wait for what comes tonight with these fires. >> you are right. you know, these winds have picked up even as we're here. but that community, you feel it. and even people finding community in in their shared loss that we see as, as people, you know, in hotels interact or people see each other for the first time. going back to those communities here, about 1000 people were fed by local organizations, first responders. i mean, it is it is incredible to see that even as they are still in the face of fighting these. and and thanks so much for joining us tonight. i'm erin burnett in los angeles. and join me. i'll be back here again tomorrow night. of course, covering all of these fires. jessica. >> all right. erin, thank you so much.