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protect a community nearby from here over the next hour. we want to tell you the story of these fires. what happened, how the fire moved so fast, what we know about how it started at this point, and the stories of people who had to flee for their lives. >> 18 million people are under a red flag warning. >> the national weather service is calling this a destructive and life threatening windstorm a small spark could turn into an inferno in a matter of minutes. >> the warnings were ominous, frequent and at times dire. >> we knew that this was going to be an extreme event. they were talking a once in a decade event. three days in advance. >> we knew the winds were going to be terrible. we knew that we hadn't seen rain for months. i certainly, and everybody i

know, we did not think it was going to be this bad. >> we pre-positioned hundreds of assets and personnel on sunday in anticipation of this wind event. >> they talked of a big wind event, but that wasn't their only concern. >> last winter was very wet, so things grew very well. and then the rain shut off the end of march. it was over. and so what happens to plants that don't get water for nine months? they die, they dry out, they become tinder. >> so by the time the santa ana's kicked up, there was so much tinder dry fuel in these canyons and one spark is so hard to contain. >> at 1030 this morning, a brush fire was reported at 1190 north piedra miranda drive. >> satellite images show a plume of smoke around the santa monica mountains. what caused the fire here is still unknown.

>> that morning, i went for a swim in the ocean. i got out about 8:00 in the morning. the wind was beginning to pick up. >> i saw a puff of smoke and i said, oh no, oh no, please, because i knew pacific palisades was in the way. >> pacific palisades a picturesque seaside neighborhood perched on the ocean. >> it's just a really, really nice place to live. and frankly, if you didn't live here, you were a bit jealous of people that did. i got here, it was unlike anything i've ever seen. this looked more like a war zone than a fire zone. this was unlike any fire i've seen in the palisades. this was unlike any fire i have seen anywhere. >> it's coming over the ridge. it's got a couple houses. if you're up here, get out of here. >> we've seen palm trees on fire. we saw a structure up on the hill on fire earlier this afternoon. and personally, i heard an explosion when i was standing closer to the street. so it's been very active, very

difficult for the people who live in those foothills because they have one way out here, one way out that was soon filled with traffic. >> this could be the difference, you know, in someone's life or death, if we can get people safely evacuated, we got in the car to go and then all the cars were abandoned. >> so i had nowhere to go. so i just had to get out of my car and start walking. the smoke is so bad i don't. i have no idea where we're going. i'm scared for my life. it was. it's terrifying. >> we were running down. you could see palm trees just like random palm trees on fire. so i'm sure leaves are burning and falling down. and it's. it's literally apocalyptic. >> it was otherworldly. it looked like the end times. i'm not a religious person. it looked like the end times. >> the fire came right down to the road as fires closed in. >> firefighters and police told people to abandon their vehicles and head toward the

ocean. those abandoned cars, often on winding roads, made it hard for emergency vehicles to get through. bulldozers were used to create a path. >> got a lot of unchecked fire on the left flank. >> by late afternoon, the pacific palisades fire had spread to 1200 acres. more than 250 firefighters were on scene in the palisades, and the city of l.a. declared a state of emergency. some residents stayed behind trying to save their homes and help their neighbors. >> we had a fire pump and, you know, we were able to, i think, probably save 1 or 2 houses working with the firemen, but three houses have gone up right around us. >> but the water tanks in the palisades were running dry, making it difficult to maintain water pressure needed to supply the hydrants. >> we have three large water tanks, about a million gallons each. >> we ran out of water and the

first tank at about 4:45 p.m. yesterday, we ran out of water on the second tank about 8:30 p.m., and the third tank about 3 a.m. this morning. >> we're trying very hard not to breathe in smoke and ash that's billowing everywhere. the wind is strong enough to knock things over easily. >> the sun has not set here, but you wouldn't know that because you cannot see a thing. but this black, acrid smoke. this house here was fine. about 20 minutes ago i was walking down this road. suddenly. bang! it was up. >> when the sun did go down, the wind picked up and the flames roared to life. >> the issue. this wind, anderson, you can see it whipping that smoke all the stuff around you. >> is that going to erupt in flames? i mean, those flames look very close, nick. well, i mean it. >> i mean, it might. chris. let's come down here. i mean, all of this stuff is green, okay? which listen, that's no guarantee. but, you know, we've obviously parked our vehicle just up the road. we're facing the right way. so if we need to get out, we can get out

streets. >> man, you feel the heat became infernos? oh my god. >> let me just get past these oh, my. shou chew. oh my gosh. >> oh i'm just holding my breath and i can feel the heat from inside the car. just watching the embers fly across the windshield. so not ideal in that kind of, um, you know, we get put on a lot kind of risky assignments. and in this situation, we had to make a calculated risk for the best way to leave. and i think, um, you know, thankfully, we got out of there. >> downtown palisades was ablaze as well. >> we've now come down into palisades village, the center of this community. that was an

apartment building that we have watched. jesus. whoa! sorry. i nearly got hit by something there. um, yeah. whoa. uh, we're gonna have to get back. and we've just watched this building. just disintegrate, and a little part of that building nearly hit me there. the fact that the wind can move around adds to the uncertainty and the danger. for sure, when you've got winds that strong, it's different than covering, you know, a fire on a nice, calm day because you don't know where the flames are going to go at around 6:18 p.m., a new fire erupted some 40 miles east of the palisades in the eden creek area in the san gabriel mountains. >> breaking news out of southern california, where a dangerous and fast-moving wildfires are raging. the eaton fire has now doubled in size, and that is burning at a rate of over one football field a minute since beginning just a few hours ago. >> quite frankly, it was exactly the news that that i didn't want to hear.

>> it was immediately clear that this fire, too much like the palisades fire was earlier in the day, was in a very bad spot with a high potential to go on to create a great deal of damage and threaten people's lives in just one hour, the eden fire exploded, burning 400 acres. >> 95 residents of an elderly care home had to be heartily evacuated in wheelchairs and on gurneys, some wearing thin gowns and shawls in the cold. >> so you got to get everybody out of here. >> yeah, everyone got out safely, as far as you know. yes, but 10:30 p.m., a third blaze, the hurst fire, had erupted in a neighborhood between palisades and eden. >> and then we had 2 or 3 more starts that night. and it's kind of like i've heard it called whack a mole. we need to get assets here. oh, wow. now we have nothing over here. and then you're trying to move assets one, two, three, four. >> i mean, once you started seeing other fires popping up, it was like, oh, my goodness,

this is armageddon. >> fierce winds and hurricane force gusts meant choppers and planes couldn't be used to drop water and fire retardant. containment was impossible. >> once those flames hit 60, 70, 80 mile an hour, there is no fire crew in the world that's going to fly into that. and so then you're completely at the mercy of physics, of wind direction and moving through these canyons with such ferocity that human crews didn't stand a chance. >> by midnight, 4000 acres had burned and some 30,000 people had evacuated. >> so as we were all focusing on the palisades fire, more fires broke out. we could not fathom what was about to happen. >> the whole story with

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them 0% contained and spreading rapidly. >> this palisades fire has been burning at five football fields a minute. the worst is definitely not yet here. >> this is a particularly dangerous situation. we're in the midst of a destructive windstorm. winds now gusting upwards of nearly 100mph. >> we've never seen fire behavior like this. it's moved so fast. and the wind is so powerful. >> i really feel like i'm in a hurricane. the way the winds are blowing. >> an ember being driven by 100 mile per hour winds will start. additional fires. that is why it's so hard to contain what is happening on the ground. >> by wednesday morning, the eaton fire had spread to the nearby community of altadena, north of pasadena. this was recorded

around 11:30 a.m. on this street in altadena. you have this house which is completely engulfed in flames. there was a tree down blocking part of the street. and then just across the street you have another fire. another house that is just completely gone. a second house down there is also gone. i mean, there is not a block in this area that you go down that you do not see some houses just completely engulfed in flames. i mean, this house is completely gone. we've watched this entire house burn down over the next six hours. at one intersection, my crew and i watched the firestorm spread, destroying dozens of homes and vehicles. this is very active. this has recently caught. i mean, this is now completely engulfed. okay. yeah. and now. now you see it. now this house, which was relatively untouched. now this house is. is being destroyed. fire crews did what they could, but water

was an issue here, too. >> our hydrant ran dry about two minutes ago. >> and is that the water pressure issue or. >> we are, because there's so many engines tapping the grid and multiple grids. we're basically just taking all the water out of the grid on a scene like this right now. >> what can you do? >> we can clear brush away from fences, things that we can do with our hands or with tools, and we just help some homeowners get out. >> so just i mean, first thing is rescue operations. we want you out. houses can be replaced. all that lives cannot. >> this satellite image of altadena shows just how many buildings were on fire. a lot of bushes. there's a lot of lawns. >> whoa! okay, so there's a lot of explosions. >> also, obviously, as vehicles, as gas tanks, as vehicles ignite, gas tanks explode. by 4 p.m., most of the houses at this intersection were destroyed. you can't even see the sun. there's a

surrealness to it. i mean, i was in, you know, i woke up in a hotel in, uh. i don't know, a hollywood area and looked out my window and you could see black smoke, but there was a starbucks open, and, you know, people are going about their business. it's surreal. it's ominous seeing that in the sky, you drive 30 minutes and you know, you people aren't allowed in this area. thankfully, it's all cordoned off. um, but 30 minutes away, there is this inferno, and this entire neighborhood is just been been devastated. it is. it's hard to wrap your mind around it. they're essentially trying to see if there's some houses they think they can save by clearing brush. but this thing again, just turn around. if you can. here, look, they've been watching this, this house go up in flames. a number of houses here. and now it has spread to this structure. uh, it spread a while ago, but this structure is almost completely gone. the question is, will this house survive? there's no brush around it. but now look it

spread down. this is new. yeah, we've been watching. it then spreads from these trees. look at all these embers. just. i don't know if you can pan up, but look at all these embers just flying up. you see them in the smoke? all of that. those, those the winds are a little or have died down here. but those can just get picked up by winds for miles. >> the images coming out of altadena, frankly, you know, they are horrifying. just this unceasing sea of windborne embers igniting dozens and hundreds of spot fires downwind. at that point, it was just a matter of fervently hoping that the losses weren't as bad as feared, and that at least the loss of life could be minimized as much as possible. >> by nightfall, five fires were raging. eaton, palisades, hearst, and two new ones, lydia and a fire in runyon canyon called the sunset

fire. >> the heat coming off this thing is intense right now, and cnn reporter nick watt had been working around the clock. >> he lives in santa monica, far outside of what is normally considered a fire zone. >> i'm going to go to my house. i'm going to hose the whole thing down, just hoping that if everything is wet, if an ember lands on it, it won't ignite. >> his wife and children had already evacuated. >> it's extraordinary to cover something like this in your own community. i've been covering fires for a long time. you have sympathy for people. now i have empathy thursday morning, the scale of destruction became clear. >> this was the altadena community church. it was consumed by flames. will rogers state beach park set ablaze. a

starbucks in the palisades, reduced to a charred out frame. >> the forecast is calling for more gusty winds again today as firefighters try to bring the blaze under control. >> based on the devastation that is clear, it looks like a bomb. an atomic bomb dropped in these areas. >> it is safe to say that the palisades fire is one of the most destructive natural disasters in the history of los angeles. >> according to officials thursday morning, the palisades fire was 0% contained, as were the eaton and hurst fires. the lidia fire was at 40% containment and firefighters had stopped the sunset fire from spreading. crews battling the northern edges of the palisades fire were working in and around topanga canyon, trying to put out spot fires and save small communities that are hard to reach. it's an area around topanga canyon, a lot of

winding roads here up into the mountains. this fire here is moving up this, uh, side of this mountain really quickly. just it's moved fast. just in the last couple of seconds that i've been standing here. there's a number of firefighters up here. they've got bulldozers. they're getting into place. uh, and they are watching this and getting kind of pre-positioned so that they'll be able to deal with this as as it gets here. over on this ridge, a large crew of inmates who have volunteered to learn firefighting skills, they are working, clearing. you see the road they're on. that's a road likely created by bulldozers earlier to kind of create a fire line. they are now widening that road, clearing out more underbrush, and then they will move to other locations. they were able to use choppers and fixed wing aircraft because the winds had died down temporarily. but minor wind shifts made a big difference in where the fire

spread. they've dropped a lot of water from helicopters over the last hour or so. it seems like the wind shifted and suddenly the fire just erupted. >> exactly. you know, afternoons they get the the the wind shifts up here. so that's exactly what's happened. and they had to vacate the, the line that we thought we were going to put in. so back to a contingency line. come down around these houses and just try to cut this bowl off. >> coming up, how residents managed to survive. and the stories of those who died in the fires. >> the whole story with anderson cooper is a five time emmy winner for long form journalism. cnn's best journalists share deeply reported stories. >> how's it feel to be labeled a conspiracy theorist? >> that's news to me.

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>> we tried, we tried. bro. i'm sorry. >> a forest fire can run through city blocks. block after block after block. not just forest tree after forest tree. >> i'm sorry, bro. i'll get out of here. >> with nothing left to do but run away. >> god protect this house in the name of jesus. and pray that this neighborhood god tanner charles and his friend orly israel barely made it out of israel's burning home alive. >> the two friends tried to save orly's home, but finally had to flee. >> you can see the sparks in the air. >> it's like a snowstorm, but the snow hurts your skin. every time i watch this video, i got to watch myself running away from the battle of a lifetime. we stayed there way longer than anyone should have and still lost. >> many los angeles residents

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>> raining fire. embers everywhere. the hillside on both sides was completely engulfed in fire. >> at least 16 people died as a result of the fires, but the death toll is likely to climb. >> we will be able to bring in canines and other things to help us, hopefully not discover too many fatalities. that's our prayer. >> human remains were found amid the rubble of this beachfront home, decimated by the palisades fire. roughly 30 miles inland. a 66 year old man, victor shaw, lived with his sister, sherry. in an interview with local news channel ktla, sherry said she narrowly escaped the eaton fire victor. her brother, stayed behind. >> when i went back in and yell out his name, he didn't reply back and i had to get out because the embers were so big

and flying like a firestorm. >> victor's body was found by his neighbors. they said he was lying near a garden hose 82 year old rodney nickerson lived less than ten miles away from victor and altadena. nickerson's daughter said all that was left of his remains were his bones. >> he said, he'll be fine. i'll be here when you guys come back. he was in his bed when i found him. >> in that same community, the family of 67 year old anthony mitchell believes he died trying to save his son's life. >> he was such a jewel. so this is going to be a great loss. >> rita cook is mitchell's cousin. >> i happened to him. he was with his son, who was bedridden. >> yes. >> mitchell's son, justin, had cerebral palsy, and mitchell was an amputee who used a wheelchair. another family member told the washington post the two were waiting for an ambulance to rescue them. the

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>> there's nothing. there's nothing left. i literally just have the clothes on my back. >> we lost everything. everything burned to the ground. >> what do you want people to know about what happened here? >> it shouldn't have happened. however, here today, i'm bringing a message of hope. i'd like for everybody to. to remember that what we need to focus on is that the love in our heart lasts forever. and it is enduring. and we have an opportunity to rebuild. and so regardless of what happened, we can move forward. >> when we return. >> our hydrant ran dry about two minutes ago. >> why wasn't there enough water to battle the fires? what is the situation with the water? obviously, in the palisades. it ran out last night.

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afternoon after the fires were already out of control. >> by that point, more than 100,000 people had to evacuate. >> do you owe citizens an apology for being absent while their homes were burning? >> i've been in constant contact with our fire commanders with county, state and federal officials. i took the fastest route back, which included being on a military plane, which facilitated our communications. >> she's also had to defend approving a $17 million cut to the fire department's budget for 2025. she insisted the cut did not impede the response to these fires. >> there were no reductions that were made that would have impacted the situation that we were dealing with over the last couple of days, but that's not what the fire chief said last month in this memo. >> and again this past week with jake tapper. >> let me be clear. the $17 million budget cut and the elimination of our civilian

positions, like our mechanics did and has and will continue to severely impact our ability to repair our apparatus. so with that, we have over 100 fire apparatus out of service. and having these apparatus in the proper amount of mechanics would have helped. and so it did absolutely negatively impact. >> the resource they needed the most was water, and it was unavailable in some hydrants at a critical time. >> we've lost most of the hydrant pressure, multiple homes threatened. i need about 2 or 3 water tenders and there were some engines that got dry hydrants. >> we've been watching as a crew from kern county in another part of the state, has been spraying water on the hotspots around this former mansion. there's obvious water pressure here, but so many questions about water pressure around l.a. county as multiple crews try to tap in. >> your viewers must understand the water system really isn't designed for a large scale, ongoing fire

fight. >> the firefighting hydrant system in southern california. a lot of it is gravity fed, so you pump water uphill, and when you need it, it flows down. but that is a system designed for 1 or 2 house fires at a time, not for multiple wildland fire crews tapping the same grid system and sucking it dry faster than it can be refilled. it's hopeless. and can you imagine the frustration and the panic of being a fire crew? realizing you're the pressure in your hose is dying in real time, as entire neighborhoods are going up in front of you. it's the worst. we do have water tenders, vehicles that shuttle water to us that carry 2500 gallons of water. >> but again, they're stretched thin as well. so they have a lot of demand placed on them. governor. governor, i live here, governor. >> and it had one distraught resident demanding answers from california governor gavin newsom fill the hydrants.

>> i would fill them up personally. you know, that i literally have i would fill up the hydrants myself. i would i understand, but would you do that? >> i would do whatever i can. >> why do i have to ask the governor why there's not water in the fire hydrants? i paid for it, didn't i? i paid for it. >> i paid for this. on wednesday, during the fire in altadena, i asked governor newsom about the problem with getting water from the hydrants. what is the situation with the water? obviously in palisades, it ran out last night and the hydrants. i was talking to the firefighter on this block. they left because there was no water in the hydrant here. >> the the local folks are trying to figure that out. i mean, just two days later on friday, he called for an independent commission to investigate the water problems. >> one potential issue might have been that a reservoir near the palisades fire that could hold millions of gallons of water was shut down. the l.a. department of water and power said it was required to take it out of service to meet safe drinking regulations. in a statement, the department said,

quote, extreme water demand impacted our ability to refill the three water tanks supplying the palisades, causing the loss of suction pressure. the department said it meets all federal and state codes, but will review and investigate what happened, experts told cnn's steps could have been taken to potentially lessen the devastating impact, which include better planning and management of aging infrastructure and vegetation in the area, one expert in the field told me that there's not a water system in any city on earth that could have handled what happened here. >> when it comes to the winds themselves, even if you had a functionally infinite supply of water, even that probably wouldn't have resulted in a greatly different outcome. once the fire started burning winds that carried fire from tree to tree, house to house, neighborhood to neighborhood also grounded aircraft that were supposed to drop water on the burning areas for the first few days of the fire, the

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assets, fixed wing aircraft. there was a large one. there was a smaller fixed wing aircraft. they just dropped retardant. fire retardant. that's what the reddish pink color is. they've also brought in. helicopters have been dropping water on this spot as well. they have a lot of assets in this area on the ground. they're also putting water on it from from fire trucks down there. on friday the winds had died down. but spot fires around the fernwood community in topanga canyon continued to flare up. it looks like from this vantage point that there now may be another issue, another fire over this ridge. you can see the dark smoke rising from there as well. so there's a fire that they believe is a structure down off to the right. and then over that, that ridge looks like there is now another fire

to deal with. and obviously on the horizon you can see some other smoke trails as well. they are trying to save this community. that is where the battle has been joined. a lot of air assets, trucks on the ground, fixed wing aircraft like this. >> wow. >> it is extraordinary to be standing here and feel the power of that aircraft. go right over you and watch it just swoop down so low. it is rare in life. you see an aircraft swooping that close to houses, dropping that that retardant. you see the fire trucks still pouring, pouring water, the retardant they're putting down is in a different location than it was just several minutes ago, which we believe was that structure fire. four days into the blaze and

l.a. was still burning. the scale of the destruction still hard to comprehend. >> it is unbelievable. it looks like a war zone here in the central village of pacific palisades. this reminds me so much of covering the paradise fire up in california over five years ago. >> before this record setting fire ripped through los angeles, there was another record setting one further north. in 2018, the camp fire. >> the camp fire in northern california is now the deadliest and most destructive wildfire in california history. >> this is nothing like what we've had before. heavenly father, please help us. >> when this occurred in 2018, it was widely seen as essentially the benchmark, the worst, most

destructive, and deadliest modern american wildfire. >> 85 people died in the camp fire fire that virtually destroyed the entire town of paradise. nearly 19,000 structures burned to the ground. >> it is absolutely incinerated. >> that town of 27,000 people, virtually burned off the map. they're going to need to rebuild this whole city from the ground up. sometimes you'll hear folks say that. why does anybody live in a high fire risk zone? well, that's a pretty tall order, because millions of people today live in those places. cities and towns are where they are. suburbs have been built where they have been. and so the question is, then, i think a more interesting one. when you do have a devastating event like this, which burns whole neighborhoods and towns to the ground, how do you rebuild or do you rebuild?

>> as many in paradise have not returned more than six years after the fire, the population is about a third of what it once was. >> these communities know it is part of the bargain. it is table stakes. if you want to live in paradise that you're going to live with fire. things are changing. we have to think differently about how we build, about how we prepare, about how we respond to these multiple disasters at the same time. >> nobody's here by accident anymore. people who live here are here because they're fighting to be here. they want to be here. and there's this real sense of community that i think is much stronger now than it was before the fire. and i think that that's really hopeful. >> hope is critical, but so is fire insurance, which is essential if you live virtually anywhere in california. but the industry itself is imploding. >> i think our premium on our house prior to the fire was, i think it was around $500 a year, and we were on 11 acres

with multiple buildings, so about $500 a year purchasing this about a year ago. and then we've now had an increase in our policy. >> so how much do they want between 20 and 30,000 a year additional for less coverage. we're living through sort of real time forced adaptation, changing building codes, changing property values, to be sure, but it's certainly changing insurance rates. that's a massive crisis. so many big insurance companies have pulled out of california because they've lost so much money here. this when you consider the billions of dollars of property just in this part of this fire, will add another layer to that. >> it's just incredible. i mean, you get used to it. it's incredible to see this up close, to see what you guys are doing. it really is. it's remarkable what you're doing. >> yeah, it makes me proud to be a firefighter back in fernwood in topanga canyon,

firefighter james larsen, a 30 year veteran, was watching to see where the flames might spread. >> the ground is still superheated. you have the stuff down on the ground called duff that could stay heated for weeks and all that. so there's going to be a lot of cleanup ahead. >> yesterday they were putting a lot of water down from from aerial assets on one area, but it kept coming back like, you know, and they must have put at least six while i was there. >> you literally have to get boots on the ground. love that term. and was scraping tools and scrape it and water and it's it's very, very so after you put the water down from the air, folks have to people have to go in and actually scrape. when it's safe in our fuels, we want to stay in the black. if it's all burned, it's fine. we don't want to get into the green fuels because we have people in there. we can, you know, they could get burned and it could be a real hazard to us. >> battles like this are playing out all over los angeles county. multiple fires are still burning. they're harder to see in the daytime,

but at night, from the air, the scale and the horror of what's happening is clear. >> i think events like this have been inevitable in los angeles and in some regions at similar risk, nationally and globally for some time. and the reality is that there will be more fire on the landscape in a warming world, there's really no way out of that. what does the future hold? what will the extreme risk days in 20, 30, 40 years look like? it's pretty clear that they will be even more extreme than what we're seeing today.