but at night, from the air, the scale and the horror of what's happening is clear. >> i think events like this have been inevitable in los angeles and in some regions at similar risk, nationally and globally for some time. and the reality is that there will be more fire on the landscape in a warming world, there's really no way out of that. what does the future hold? what will the extreme risk days in 20, 30, 40 years look like? it's pretty clear that they will be even more extreme than what we're seeing today.

>> this is cnn breaking news. >> hello and welcome to all of our viewers watching here in the united states and around the world. >> i'm polo sandoval. firefighters are bracing for another round of intense santa ana winds as massive wildfires continue to burn across southern california. the death toll, the combined death toll now up to 24. officials say that the fire threat is very high and wind speeds are predicted to keep rising through wednesday. >> the biggest hazard is a new fire start, which is why we need the public to be very cautious. this wind event is taking place from santa barbara all the way to san diego, so it's every member's responsibility to cause one less spark. >> more than 105,000 people. still days later, under evacuation orders. crews have

managed to control some of the smaller fires, which have freed up some resources to focus on the major ones that are still burning. the hurst fire, about 89% contained right now. the eaton fire, which proved deadly, 27% contained, but the largest blaze is the palisades fire. it is just at 13% containment. officials say hundreds of california inmates are actually helping fight fires on the front lines, joining those forces and the governor announcing that he's deploying 1000 more national guard members to join the effort. that brings the total number deployed there to about 2500 people on the ground. cnn's julia vargas jones has more on what lies ahead for these devastated communities on the sixth day of the palisades fire, residents are starting to want to go home to pick up the medication, to pick up their pets, to look for items that they left behind. >> but this morning, chief of police of los angeles jim

mcdonald said that will no longer be allowed. he said the resources are just not there and he understands that people might not be happy with this decision, but that's just what they need to do. they said they will start bringing in cadaver dogs to look for potential people that were left behind in the fires as well, that could create active crime scenes and really make it difficult for officers to bring folks into their neighborhoods. we spoke to some of those people. listen to what they have to say. >> i have to go wait in line in my car where i can ride my bike up really quickly, check my properties. >> they're saying that they're not allowing people to do that anymore. >> i tried yesterday. i tried a couple of days ago. nothing. >> their argument is that it's still. the fire is still burning. the gas lines are still on in some parts, and that it's just too dangerous. what do you think? do you think it's too dangerous? i agree.

you know, save lives before anything. >> austin tice. >> yeah. yeah. >> but you're frustrated. of course. wouldn't you be? and that frustration that you hear in his voice there that's been echoed by so many other people. and we also had the opportunity to see and follow people as they saw their homes for the first time after this fire. this has been an event of an immense magnitude for this community. and yet we keep hearing over and over again that people are choosing to rebuild here. they're not abandoning their community. something we've seen in events like this one. we're now hearing from governor gavin newsom that he will try to make it easier for that rebuilding to take place, saying that he will waive certain necessary permitting for building in this particular area affected by the palisades fire. and telling our colleague kyung lah in an interview that he will make sure that these houses, all of these structures are inspected in the next 14 days. julia vargas jones cnn

pacific palisades. >> people in altadena, california. they are getting much needed support from someone who knows exactly what they're going through right now. steve crowder, the mayor of paradise, california, has firsthand experience leading a community through devastating wildfires. you see, in 2018, the camp fire killed more than 80 people and destroyed about 95% of paradise, including his own home. the day after the eaton fire began its devastating sweep through altadena, crowder reached out to the town council chairperson to offer his experience, guidance and support as well. mayor steve crowder joining me live tonight. mayor, thank you so much for for spending some time with me. you've referenced the ongoing fires in southern california as a carbon copy of what you and your town experienced in 2018, mayor. in addition, your own daughter's home lost in the fires last week. we take it

she is safe tonight. >> she she is safe. >> she's devastated. which is understandable. >> yeah. and mayor, we're thankful for that now with so many in southern california losing homes, businesses and quite frankly, even their hope. how do you assure to them that rebuilding is possible? and and what have you told city leaders in places like the pacific palisades and certainly in altadena? >> well, i have had several conversations with victoria from altadena and, you know, i told her it it looks very bleak. it looks hopeless. um, but i can tell you firsthand it isn't. i went through the same feelings. i came up to this town after it burned, and i looked around and i went, there's no way we're ever going to come back from this. and as time passed and.

and some progress was made with debris removal, i looked and said, you know, i think we might be able to do that six years later. we are well on the road. and what i told her is, just don't lose hope. don't let anybody tell you you can't because you absolutely can. and we are proof of that. >> yeah, that's so much hope in in a place that is quite hopeful in many cases has lost it of that hope. how much progress. i'm curious how much progress has actually been made in paradise made in terms of rebuilding, getting people to to move back. >> well, we were a town of 26,000 pre fire. uh, we went to a town of less than 2000 overnight. um, we started with about 13,000 structures and ended that day with 17,000 structures. today we have about 33% of our

housing stock back. our population is 11,000. um, we had a long term recovery plan done almost immediately after the fire. we involved our community and asked them what they wanted. their number one ask was for underground utilities. that's in the process. now. we should be finished with that in about another year or less. uh, then comes repaving all the streets, and that will take probably two years from now to totally finish up. we've already started where the underground is finished. um, so i think we're making really good progress. it's, uh, you know, it's a 20 year rebuild. um, it's not going to happen overnight, but i'm really happy with the progress we've made, and a lot of it has to do with the wonderful staff that we have. >> you touched on something that's very important to this isn't just rebuilding people's homes. this is rebuilding the

infrastructure. essentially refinding that town from the ground or potentially underground up. >> oh, absolutely. i mean, the the fire wiped out our our, uh, all of our utility poles. it wiped out, um, our town and police department communication. it took out our cell phone towers. so the day of the fire, i spent up here evacuating, helping evacuate the town. and probably within about an hour and a half of it. we had no communication on our our town radios or our cell phones, so that was tough to do, be it in five, ten, 15 or in your case, 20 years. >> rebuilding will happen. so please close with that final message for the residents of this affected, of this affected area. what does life

post devastation look like? >> well, i mean, there's challenges. you're you're, you know, living amongst the construction zone, but you're back in your community and it's got it's still got its beauty. you've got your friends around you. we have probably right now it's about a 50 over 50 mix of what's coming back, whether it be rebuilds or brand new people. um, but it's still a great place to live. it's still home. it's still a community, and it's only going to get better. >> paradise, california nearly destroyed years ago, but now on the mend. bouncing back and providing so much hope for those who are just about to begin that very long, very long process. mayor crowder, thank you so much for for that advice that you're sharing with your counterparts in other parts of california and wish you and certainly your daughter, the best. >> well, thank you. and i want to send my heartfelt condolences to everybody in the

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the water authority is ensuring that we can get the water we need, as well as we have, um, hundreds of water tenders in the area throughout the entire fire perimeter. of the 23,700 acres we have. you mentioned earlier, we are at 13% containment today. the fire activity was moderate. there wasn't much smoke in there, which is good, but we still have a lot of hotspots within the interior of that 23,000 acres. so it will be hot. luckily, today the red flag warning is pushing the winds back on to the fire. so that will be beneficial. so the winds are coming out of the north northeast. basically. >> got it. that's certainly if i may ask also about preventative actions, things that maybe you, the firefighters, have done the last couple of days trying to get the upper hand. can you just speak to some of those preventative, preventive, preventative actions that have been taken by firefighters to make it really essentially harder for fires to ignite or for current ones to spread?

>> getting our aircraft back in the air has been paramount to stopping that fast rate of spread. getting those phos-chek drops in the getting dozer lines in to get our containment and contingency lines bolstered. um, as well. we've been really successful at getting personnel here. we have well over 5000 firefighters on the ground currently. um, we're able to get out of that initial attack and start doing our extended attack and getting crews rested. so people are going in fresh, working a 24 hour shift and able to extinguish any of those little hot hotspots, as well as around the structures that are still there. luckily, and thankfully, we're getting any smoldering because it's still hot and dry. if you get any kind of embers like a campfire that you do that go into the eaves of people's crawl spaces, right? it can ignite that. so we're getting those out next to, um, that's our number one priority is extinguishing those, uh, small spot fires. even the

smallest amber, right, with the hot wind and the heat can, uh, ignite another house on fire. >> sure. as you were going down that list, we're seeing those videos of those air drops as well. um, what would you say to some of those people who are at home watching in a hotel or at a loved one's home, waiting to potentially go back to their home? what would you tell those people who are asking when they will have an opportunity to actually return to their neighborhoods and see what, if anything, remains? >> unfortunately, we're only about 20% done through our damage inspection. we estimate well over 5000 homes have been destroyed just on the palisades. it's devastating. um, we have two confirmed fatalities, and my sympathies go out to the families and loved ones that have lost people on fires. um, it's a tragedy. i asked for patience. i asked for people to understand that infrastructure is destroyed. we are in a disaster. this is something los

angeles county, as well as los angeles city, at least in my history. and i've lived in los angeles city since 1976, hasn't seen since i was born. so, um, this is fuels that haven't burned since the 50s. so the infrastructure is destroyed. um, i think luckily or unluckily, i think we'll hopefully get some new reform out of building and rebuilding our communities that are more resilient to stuff like this or wildland fires like this. so i ask for people's grace. please. patience. we are doing this as quickly as possible and as safely as possible for the firefighters on the ground. >> yeah, pleading for patience. that's key. and understandably so. many people growing impatient and frustrated. but the reality is this is going to be a very, very long journey to recovery. and the first thing is, i assume, make that area safe before you can even contemplate access chief asked

my best to you and please tell all of your firefighters that have been working now for days that we're certainly thinking about them and wishing them the best with this new threat on the horizon. >> thank you for your support to. thank you, chief. >> all right. the devastation that these fires have caused has been beyond comprehension. as the chief was laying out when we come back, how l.a. is coming together to help those who've lost nearly everything and in some cases, everything in the fires. >> as the new year starts. follow cnn. >> president carter will be remembered for his lifetime of service, reporting the events shaping history. >> follow all the changes in 2025. >> i, donald john trump, follow the facts. >> follow cnn. >> when the temperature drops, you've got

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emotional toll, even on people who haven't been directly affected by these fires. >> i just needed to come out and do something to help people. i don't. >> sorry i feel so bad for the people. >> so i just wanted to come help somebody. that's all i can do. i can't give a bunch of money, but i can come and give my time. >> yeah. even giving back is emotional. for more information about how you can help the los angeles area wildfire victims, go to cnn.com/impact. for more information. and so far, the fires have claimed the lives of at least 24 people. others remain missing as search and rescue teams go neighborhood to neighborhood as they look for victims. and we're also learning more about some of the people who have died in this disaster. among them is 85 year old annette rossilli. we are told that she insisted on staying in her pacific palisades home with her pets. neighbors encouraged her to

leave, but she declined. victor shaw also chose to stay. he reportedly tried to fight the raging eaton fire with a garden hose rather than evacuate his longtime family home. we also heard the story of rodney nickerson. he's a grandpa. he was a grandfather who raised his family in the house, which is now burned to the ground. he lived in altadena, in his neighborhood, for more than 50 years as the fire approached. family members say that nickerson refused to leave. our affiliate in los angeles spoke to mr. nickerson's daughter. >> this is where we've been our whole life, and my son tried to get him to leave. and my neighbors and myself. and he said, he'll be fine. i'll be here when you guys come back. and he said his house would be here. his house is here. and he was here until he was in his bed. when i found him. >> and then there is rory

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fires, the hurst fire. fortunately, that's at about 89% contained the eaton fire, which has proven deadly and devastated the altadena area at 27% containment. but the largest one, the palisades fire, that is only at 13%, contained. the big fear now is that more gusty winds will not only further complicate the firefighting efforts, but could possibly spread embers to dry areas once again, sparking new fires. the winds are forecast to increase throughout the day on monday, with strong gusts lasting through wednesday. california governor gavin newsom says dozens of teams are now trying to inspect each one of these buildings that was damaged by or destroyed by the fire, and he hopes to do that within two weeks time. but he says it could take 6 to 9 months to remove all the debris and toxic material from burned out homes and buildings. cnn's natasha chen, following developments from los angeles,

relatively favorable wind conditions on sunday have helped fire crews make progress at the palisades fire behind us. >> these areas on the hillside have already burned on saturday, and on sunday we've been seeing nonstop aircraft coming through, dropping water in this area into the canyon below where there are more homes, and they were able to actually keep the fire from encroaching upon those homes. and coming up this ridge to where we're standing. so that's very positive progress for the palisades fire. but of course, this is all about to change in the coming days. we're expecting very high winds. red flag warnings through wednesday with low humidity. and that means a very high fire danger. authorities are telling people in the entire metro area to be prepared for these wind conditions and potential new fires and potential flare ups, possible preemptive power shutoffs to prevent disasters from happening. and at the same time, that means that until

wednesday, until actually thursday, when the red flag warnings are over, they cannot have conversations with evacuees about repopulation. for example, the people who left the palisades area who may have their homes still standing there, cannot try to come back in or discuss that with an escort, with police until these immediate conditions have passed. and so that makes things very difficult, very stressful for a lot of people here. in the meantime, we are learning that authorities are going undercover to make sure there are no looters in these evacuation zones, taking advantage of this situation. they're also scanning the skies to make sure people are not illegally flying drones, because we've already heard from authorities that someone flying a drone had that drone collide into a super scooper. so that happened on thursday, causing that aircraft to be grounded. very serious consequences here. so as they prepare for harsher conditions, fire crews, authorities say they have the

resources now that have come in from other places. and the l.a. water system is prepared. back to you. >> so weather wise, what's in store in the days ahead for southern california? for the answer, let's go now. live to ventura, california. that's where we find todd hall. he's a senior meteorologist with the national weather service. todd, thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me on. >> no, it's our pleasure, especially with your expertise right now. a week ago, before the deadly fires broke out, residents in l.a. received those alerts from the national weather service, the red flag, and also those high wind warnings. of course, nobody could have predicted what would happen next. but now similar advisories are in effect for parts of ventura and l.a. county. so what exactly is expected in the days ahead, weather wise? todd. >> yeah, we're expecting another another round of santa ana winds developing, between monday and into tuesday and possibly into wednesday. >> so we're we're gearing up

for we have very critically dry fuels in place or vegetation in place. um, across our area. so we're gearing up for a potentially another very dangerous situation across southern california as we move forward. uh, over the next couple of days. >> and, todd, when you say another round will this week, santa ana winds be similar to last week in terms of intensity and duration. >> there are some ingredients there that could end up and be potentially equal. but for all, for everything we look at at this point, the it favors it being still weaker than than last tuesday's event where we saw the palisades and eden fires actually start and spread rapidly. >> if there's some good news, it's definitely that. now, in terms of looking back at the last couple of days, here were weather conditions this weekend conducive for firefighters making as much progress as they can before this next round of winds set in. >> they i believe that they

have and we have world class firefighters here. they're very well trained. they know what they're doing and they take even the slightest bit in conditions to to really make efforts on on suppressing these fires. so i've watched them do this several times throughout my career and, and in my career here spans about 20 years. so i've watched them many, many times do this. um, i will say something about this event just to add, you know, this is a more easterly event, so it has a higher potential to to really affect, uh, the more the ventura county areas, those areas have been unscathed at this point. so that's the county to the northwest of los angeles county. um, but this could still these these fire weather conditions can still affect the palisades and eaton fire as well. and the and the remaining fires burning across l.a. county. >> you have the you mentioned some of those ingredients. you have the wind, you have dry environments. you have the dry vegetation, perhaps even decades worth, as we've heard from some of the residents on the ground. tied that trifecta

that has really been working against firefighters. where is there any potential or is there any potential for improvement long term? do you see even a break in that dry weather pattern? >> we do see a little bit. so right now we're what we call an offshore flow pattern. that's where the flow goes. the flow starts in the desert and goes towards the coast. we see a return of onshore flow, which is flow from the from the coast to the deserts, which brings in pacific moisture late in the week. so we we will see fire weather conditions dramatically improve hopefully. uh, but as far as, as far as rain, um, there's something lurking towards somewhere between the 18th and 23rd of january. we're continuing to look at that as a potential to bring some, some beneficial rain to these fires. just an inch of rain will do, will do a lot for putting out these fires. uh, across the area. >> like rain cannot come soon

enough, especially those regions in california that have barely seen any anything measurable from up above. and and in terms of considering the wind warnings and the eventual fires that broke out. keeping all that in mind, todd, what is your message tonight for people who may be living in untouched but fire prone regions? you mentioned ventura county is particularly vulnerable this time around. >> the state of california and cal fire has the ready, set go program. um, you should be, you know, those that are that are familiar with with, uh, the fire weather season in california, they should they should already be in the set stage. they should be ready to go on a moment's notice. they should have those those important documents, family photos and and family memoirs, uh, kind of together and know what they're going to take in the event that something does does happen. uh, and then we're just advising people when they tell you to go, please go. i mean, these, these fires, all

it takes is just a slight change in wind direction, and certain canyons will start to will start to actually blow. and we'll see almost hurricane force winds in some of these canyons with the santa ana winds. so it's important to, to really heed the advice of, of of a local officials. and when they tell you to leave, please leave. i mean, this is this is your life that you're that you're jeopardizing here. um, we have like i said earlier in the interview, we have some of the best trained firefighters, and i, i really put my faith in and that they're going to be able to save as many homes as possible. >> and you want those best trained firefighters focusing on preserving property and not necessarily having to go out of their way to save people in homes who decided not to evacuate when those orders came in. we cannot thank you enough, todd hall, for for your expertise right now. you're going to be extremely busy the next 24 to 48 hours, and we're all along with you, i'm sure, hoping for the best thank you.

thank you. todd. well, so many people forced to flee their homes now facing another frustration, they are unable to return to their neighborhoods to check on their properties because it's simply too dangerous, as you can imagine. but fire officials say that they are doing all that they can to keep people safe under difficult circumstances. >> part of the reason that the sheriff's office is keeping people out is because, not only because of the active fire, but also because there are exposed gas lines, there's exposed electrical lines, which we do not know if they are de-energized, there are building collapses. and then on top of all of that, every little bit of that ash that's out there is toxic ash because it's made from houses. now, as far as what we're looking forward, we're concerned about this wind event. and every time that we had this wind come in on tuesday at 60 to 100mph, and it slows down now, well, that just means that the wind from the ocean is coming in and pushing the fire the other direction. as we rotate back to an east

wind here later this week or early this week, it's going to cause more problems, which is why containment is going so slow. >> the situation is simply too dangerous for so many people to return to their neighborhoods, and that includes ryan pearson. he is in mission viejo, california. he's in altadena. resident whose home and neighborhood were destroyed. ryan, thank you for joining us. >> hey, thanks for having me. >> can you tell us what you remember about what took place, what, five days ago? >> uh, i got home around six, 630 that night and had seen some of the orange, uh, haze coming through the smoke on my way home and got a text from a friend saying that there was another fire in altadena. >> i went out and, um, shot video of it from the intersection of lake and altadena drive. and,

um, it was a growing even as i watched it for probably ten minutes and the wind was whipping around stronger than we've ever felt it with the santa ana's. so we went back home and told my wife we needed to pack up, and we were out of the house by nine. i texted a neighbor who knows all of our neighbors, and asked if anybody needed help, and we went over and helped a disabled neighbor who needed help getting from his wheelchair into the car. um, and pointed him in the right direction, and they were taking him to the va hospital. and, um, and we stayed with a family friend in los angeles after that. >> ryan, as you were describing that, we were sharing with our viewers some of the photos that you snapped that night, those ominous plumes of smoke that that you see off on the horizon. it is absolutely frightening. i want you to tell me a little bit about what it's been the last several days. you are among the few people who've been able to

return to see what remains, which in your case is, i understand, barely anything at all. what did you find when you returned to to your property uh, i was able to go back the day of the fire. >> um, in the afternoon, i tried to drive up, sort of, i think, while while things were burning and the smoke was too thick and the flames were all around on marengo. as i started heading up the hill, so did a u-turn and went back about 4 or 5 hours later. um, and pretty much all the houses on our street were destroyed. um, and then at our home, our ping pong table in the backyard, sort of miraculously is still standing. so i've been telling people that when when the neighbors are safe to go back, we can all play a game of ping pong together in the backyard. >> tell me about your home. the way i understand it, you and your wife, i believe, poured your hearts into this place.

this is. it took a lot to to to make that decision, to leave it behind. >> uh, it didn't take a lot to make the decision to leave it behind. we knew. i knew we had to go. um, but it is painful. and for my wife, especially, we, uh, had an inheritance from her father's death and spent money from that on modernizing the home and doing doing a big remodel and renovation that we completed last year. and, um, it was just exactly how my wife wanted it, and and i loved it, too. and, um, so, yeah, it makes it especially painful to have worked so hard on it and put so much, uh, so much energy into it. and she's, she's very creative and put a lot of sort of her creative spirit into it. and, um, is a 1958 sort of mid-century home with clerestory windows and hardwood floors and, um, we really love

the architecture of it and appreciated all of our neighbors. and yeah, i read you were able to modernize it with your wife, but at the same time, keep that mid-century touch, uh, character that that house had. >> if you can now perhaps share a message with people, especially in ventura county. we we had a meteorologist from the national weather service on just a few moments ago. not sure if you heard, but they are particularly concerned about what these next santa ana winds, what threat they pose. so your message to people who live in areas that have been spared thus far but live in fire prone areas. >> i mean, the thing is, like our our street at least was not exactly a fire prone area. and so but i've already been telling many people that have reached out to us with with concern, um, who live elsewhere in l.a., that just, you know, pack up as early as you can and

pack up more than you think you should because we're, you know, we're kind of going back over those, you know, that like about an hour that we packed and going, oh, if we just grabbed grabbed that and if we had just grabbed that. and so. uh, that that's my main message is just, you know, be ready and obviously heed the warnings and pay attention to what's going on around you. i think some people sort of pay too much attention to some of the, um, to the evacuation orders without sort of going to look themselves like, i'm kind of like, if you can, if you can feel the smoke, if you can feel, um, if you can see the smoke, if you can smell the smoke and you have a sense that the fire is somewhere near you within 3 to 5 miles, it's worth. it's worth leaving. i think. >> well, i'm glad you shared that. i think it's one thing to hear from officials telling people, get out. but when you hear directly from somebody who had to give up everything for the sake of surviving along with the rest of your family, i think that will hopefully resonate. so

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among some of the most destructive in california state history, and have together destroyed more than 12,000 structures. the eaton fire is currently at 27% containment, proven to be deadly, and officials say the palisades fire that one is just 13% contained. and as firefighters continue their critical work, they'll be facing more strong winds in the days ahead, with some areas expecting gusts as high as 60mph. very similar to what was experienced last week in a southern california grapples with this disaster. u.s. vice president elect jd vance is criticizing the state's leadership. here he is speaking with fox news on sunday. >> we have to do a better job. we need competent, good governance. now, that doesn't mean you can't criticize the governor of california for, i think, some very bad decisions over a very long period of time. i mean, some of these reservoirs have been dry for 15, 20 years. the fire hydrants are being reported as going dry

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partners, teams of two go in. >> they will go into a property like this. they'll assess and they will photograph, and then they will post online after it's verified about a 12 hour process. and people can go on a website, and they don't have to physically be here to know if their property is damaged. and that will then begin the process for the property owner on insurance and getting us to a point where we can start the rebuild process. >> how quickly do you anticipate being able to do that? >> well, as i said, i want all the inspections done within 14 days. every single structure that's been impacted by these fires. >> so that's thousands of homes, thousands of homes. >> and so that's the mandate. whatever resources they need, we said we're going to provide it. and then we're looking right now at debris removal. and you're looking at herculean effort. well, you tell the debris is gone. and and we i said we want nine months is the goal. nine months to a year. you're looking at the magnitude of this. and with the hazmat side, it has to be

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wednesday afternoon. the eaton and palisades fires have burned nearly 40,000 acres since tuesday. one state official says they are likely to at least at least they are likely the second and fourth most destructive fires in california history. and also then there's this health officials are raising concerns about the air quality in l.a. county. the fires have released hazardous smoke that poses several short and long term health effects, and that led the county to declare a local health emergency on friday. after several days of intense fire and wind, experts say toxins from the smoke can cause more serious problems in the future. that's especially true for children, the elderly, pregnant women and people with respiratory or heart or immune system issues. some of the symptoms from the wildfire smoke include burning eyes, headaches, also breathing difficulties. experts are cautioning residents to stay indoors if possible and also to

wear filtration masks while outside. let's go ahead and bring in now doctor deborah hendrickson joining us now. she's the author of the air they breathe, a book on climate change's impacts on children. doctor hendrickson, thank you for joining us tonight. >> thank you for having me. >> doctor, help me draw a distinction between, let's say, a woodland fire, burning wood, vegetation versus a fire that sweeps through an urban region like what we've seen for days now. how much more toxic is that? >> yeah, well, obviously the urban fires, which are consuming homes, garages filled with paint and chemicals, kitchens, cars, tires are going to contain a lot of, um, of chemical compounds, heavy metals and toxins that are very dangerous. but even forest fires have been found through sampling of, you know, aircraft that have flown through them and sampled them can contain many different chemical compounds that are not good for us. dangerous gases like ozone and carbon monoxide. and all

fires contain very high levels of fine and ultrafine particulates, which are the remnants of the microscopic soot and and droplets that are the remnants of what's been burned in the fire. >> one of the reasons why i'm thrilled that we have you on doctor, is, is we've talked about the winds that are in the forecast for the next 24 to 48 hours and that and the potential to fan the flames and start new fires. but from your perspective and on the particulate matter that is microscopic, could these winds, these this next round of santa ana winds, could that potentially spread some of these toxins even farther? >> yeah. well, look, i live in an area that gets a lot of wildfire smoke. i'm in reno, which is about ten miles from the california border, and we've had multiple major smoke events here over the last ten years as the fires have gotten worse because of climate change. uh, and what we see is, you know, the the wind can make a big difference in whether a day is terrible or better, you

know, and because it shifts the, the, the smoke plume in wide widely over a big area. so if it's blowing in your direction, if the fire smoke is being blown directly into your community, yes, you're going to have much worse air quality and be have to take a lot more precautions. in that case, and especially with children, as you mentioned, and the elderly and other people who have chronic illness. >> based on your research, doctor, any time you see these municipalities and their particulate matter levels go up, either because of pollution or as we're seeing right now in california with fires, is there a correlation with an increase in people suffering non-accidental deaths, especially those who report respiratory illness, chronic heart disease? can we expect that potentially for the affected region? >> yeah. what you tend to see is, you know, all of us experience irritated eyes, throats, lungs, but you also see all these types of non-accidental

illnesses, you know, chronic illnesses increase. and the non-accidental death rate increases as the particulate level rises in a city. so we see more cardiovascular disease, more heart attacks and strokes, more respiratory problems like asthma and copd and things like kidney disease and diabetes are exacerbated by these particulates. and that's because they they are so tiny that they can pass through the lungs into the bloodstream and travel to every organ of the body. and they're very, very inflammatory. um, so these deaths and illnesses don't often get attributed to them. but when you look at a city that's been exposed, you see these large increases in all these illnesses when the particulate level has has risen for people who are working right now in the devastation. >> of course, firefighters do have special gear to to protect them, but even they should be included in this. what should they be on the lookout for? any potential symptoms, especially those who have spent not hours, but days right now in the affected

region? >> yeah. um, well, obviously they need to wear their their protective gear as much as possible. and you know, and you know, this goes for people even visiting these neighborhoods and going into these areas. um, you'll sometimes see here when there's a lot of smoke, i'll see kids out on the street riding their bike. and people really don't appreciate how dangerous smoke is. and air pollution is. so for the firefighters, i would say, you know, if they're feeling dizzy, lightheaded, um, having a lot of irritated airway and coughing, which i think goes with the job. i'm sure all of them have experienced it, but if it's really getting severe, they need to try to get away from it for a while and breathe clean air and try to give themselves some time to recover if possible. >> and what about just regular folks, doctor? not only those who plan to go into the affected region when officials allow them to, but also those who live perhaps outside, but getting some of that smoke? >> yeah, i mean, i think there's a number of things that everyone should do. you should try to have the highest quality air filter on your hvac

system that you can, that your your system is designed to hold. um, if you have a freestanding air filter and air purifier, those can be very helpful, especially when combined with a freestanding air quality monitor inside the house that tells you how well you're doing. you can take a damp rolled up towel and put it under doors, or even sometimes here. i've seen families tape around windows to keep the smoke from coming in. if you weatherize your home before smoke hits, that's another way to prevent the smoke from getting into your house. um, if you have to go outside, wear an n95 mask, or if you have a baby who's too small to wear a mask, you can put a damp baby blanket over their car seat. just try to be sure it doesn't come in contact with their face, and i recommend that everybody get an aqi app for their phone. that's the air quality index app that will tell you what zone the air is in and whether it's safe to go outside or not. children should not be outside if it's if the aqi is

over 100, if they have a chronic illness like asthma or, you know, or diabetes or something else that impairs them in some way, usually we try to keep them in. if it's between 50 and 100, um, and you can, you know, parents often will check here before a school day to see, you know, what the level is just to, to make sure their kids are protected. >> more advice for parents in your book. the air they breathe, doctor deborah hendrickson, thank you so much for offering all this very valuable advice for not just parents, but everybody else who is dealing with this right now. take care. yeah. thank you. you too. well, still to come here in the cnn newsroom, animal rescue groups working around the clock right now to save pets and other animals from the southern california wildfires. we will hear from an organization that's evacuated dozens of horses. that's coming up. >> over half a million people with afib have left blood thinners behind. >> with watchmen, a safe one

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get them all in the car. >> they're part of their family. southern california residents are doing whatever they can to save their pets from the wildfires. animal facilities and other rescue organizations. they are trying to help right now. they're caring for dogs, cats, and some of the bigger animals right now that have been affected by the disaster. i'm joined now by vera abdullah. she is the director of love this horse equine rescue. vera, thank you so much for joining us. we're so glad that you're doing okay. and certainly some of your unexpected guests, i take it as well, are doing well. >> thank you. yes, thank you very much. yeah, they're doing good. >> so, about your rescue, vera, is that in the affected region, or are you fortunate enough to be at least somewhat far from that, so that you can carry out your rescue operations? >> yes. we're about 60 miles north of altadena, so we're in the antelope valley area, so 60 miles north of

altadena. um, so we're not directly affected by the fires, but on tuesday. evening, um, i saw the fire just exploding down there. i saw it, you know, go from ten acres to 20, growing exponentially to 50, 100, 200 acres. so my daughter and i, um, got our trailers ready and we went down into the altadena area. um, we belong to a loosely knit group of horse rescue people that will go into fires with their trailers and trucks, and we have basically our dispatch that's manned by a volunteer. and he scours all the social media sites, and he will also receive phone calls. people have to his number. and then he basically dispatches us, just like you would have an emergency dispatch with the police or the fire department. and, you know, he dispatches us to different locations to evacuate horses. >> that is a fascinating and

amazing. so essentially this is a network of people such as yourself with a great love for horses that you are activated because fires are such a way of life or such an ongoing threat, persistent threat, i should say. yes. and. >> yes. and um, gosh, i want to say it was about 2016. the los angeles county fire department did a class for certification for large animal rescue, um, in emergency situations specifically for horses. and i took the course and got certified. and so what happens whenever there's a fire? we go out? um, i mean, i've worked the thomas fire, you know, in santa barbara a few years back. and, you know, um, we had a fire here at the ranch this summer and, you know, just within a short period of time, we have trucks and trailers standing by to evacuate. so we help each other. >> so tell me about that night for you. jump in your vehicle,

you start that potential 60 minute drive down to the fire zone, not knowing what you would find. what did you find? >> well, the first call, and it was my daughter and i. we went. she's 18 years old and she's an amazing horse handler. and we went down the first call we went on was the kaiser permanente permanente hospital parking lot, where some women had dragged, you know, grabbed their horses and were waiting for us in the parking lot of the hospital. um, we arrived there and there were ou these horses to safety. and then we started working the next 21 hours, um, nonstop, pretty much just going from one evacuation call to the next. we would get the horses, you know, up to six horses into the trailer. sometimes it was two very large horses into the trailer. um, and we, um, we brought them to the evacuation facilities,

which in this case, we brought all the horses to the pomona fairplex. and then once we dropped off the horses, we would go to the next, um, call that we were assigned to. and we did that for the first 20 horses. >> essentially shuttling horses from. how many evacuated horses do you currently have in your stables, and are any of them injured? >> uh, we don't here at our rescue ranch. we don't have any horses. we took them straight to, you know, there's hansen dam, the los angeles equestrian center, or pomona fairplex. so we took them straight to those facilities. >> vera abdullah, those horses are very lucky to have you and your daughter for doing what you did last night. and i can only imagine that you're charging up your phone and getting ready for another round of potential calls. with those winds getting ready to kick up again this week. >> yeah, hopefully we're keeping our fingers crossed, right? we don't. the other thing we're doing is we're

giving our rescue is receiving cash donations, and we're giving out $500 grants to, um, horse owners who've had their boarding stables burned down. so because they have to find new facilities, they can be temporarily in those evacuation facilities. but now they have homeless horses, right? and they have to find their own their next boarding stable. and, you know, they have just they just paid for their board. so it's like basically like you pay rent, right? and then the boarding stables burned down. so we are assisting with recovery critical for people and certainly their horses as well. >> again, vera, thank you so much. our best to you and all of your efforts. very welcome. thank you. i stick around, we'll be right back with more. >> kobe believed in himself at the youngest possible age. >> it's one of the most remarkable stories in sports history. >> i don't want to be remembered as just a

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cautious. this wind event is taking place from santa barbara all the way to san diego, so it's every member's responsibility to cause one less spark. >> the threat is there more than 105,000 people? they are still under evacuation orders. not likely to make it back to where their homes once were. for a long time, crews have managed to control some smaller fires, which has freed up resources to focus on the major ones that are still burning. the hurst fire, for example. that's at 89% contained. the eaton fire that's 27% contained. but the largest one of the biggest threats that palisades fire just 13% containment. days later, cnn's julia vargas jones has more on what lies ahead for these devastated communities on the sixth day of the palisades fire, residents are starting to want to go home to pick up the medication, to pick up their pets, to look for items that they left behind. >> but this morning, chief of police of los

angeles jim mcdonald said that will no longer be allowed. he said the resources are just not there, and he understands that people might not be happy with this decision, but that's just what they need to do. they said they will start bringing in cadaver dogs to look for potential people that were left behind in the fires as well, that could create active crime scenes and really make it difficult for officers to bring folks into their neighborhoods. we spoke to some of those people. listen to what they have to say. >> i have to go wait in line in my car where i can ride my bike up really quickly and check my properties. >> they're saying that they're not allowing people to do that anymore. >> i tried yesterday. i tried a couple of days ago. nothing. >> their argument is that it's still the fire is still burning. the gas lines are still on in some parts, and that it's just too dangerous. what do you think? do you think it's too dangerous? i agree. >> you know, save lives before anything.

>> yeah, but you're frustrated. of course. >> wouldn't you be? >> and that frustration that you hear in his voice there that's been echoed by so many other people. and we also had the opportunity to see and follow people as they saw their homes for the first time after this fire. this has been an event of an immense magnitude for this community. and yet we keep hearing over and over again that people are choosing to rebuild here. they're not abandoning their community. something we've seen in events like this one, we're now hearing from governor gavin newsom that he will try to make it easier for that rebuilding to take place, saying that he will waive certain necessary permitting for building in this particular area affected by the palisades fire. and telling our colleague kyung lah in an interview that he will make sure that these houses, all of these structures are inspected in the next 14 days. julia vargas jones cnn pacific

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>> we tell them that we are not only assessing all of that in real time, and have hired independent group to look to stress test, not just the insurance market, but the utility market in california as well. we've been making a lot of reforms in our insurance market, and we'll need to make subsequent reforms something that's particularly pressing for this community. >> you're standing in is lack of insurance. a lot of people inherited homes or were working class. what do you what about people who didn't have insurance? >> and that's i mean, and that's going to be the most difficult and challenging thing. and that's where fema comes in. that's where the sba comes in. that's where the state of california comes in, where the federal government comes in. that's where philanthropy comes in. >> the governor there discussing the challenges that still lie ahead, even as the firefighting efforts continue. cnn's natasha chen is following developments from los angeles. >> relatively favorable wind conditions on sunday have helped fire crews make progress at the palisades fire behind us. these areas on the hillside

have already burned on saturday and on sunday we've been seeing nonstop aircraft coming through, dropping water in this area into the canyon below where there are more homes, and they were able to actually keep the fire from encroaching upon those homes. and coming up this. so that's very positive progress for the palisades fire. but of course, this is all about to change in the coming days. we're expecting very high winds. red flag warnings through wednesday with low humidity. and that means a very high fire danger. authorities are telling people in the entire metro area to be prepared for these wind conditions and potential new fires and potential flare ups, possible preemptive power shut offs to prevent disasters from happening, and at the same time, that means that until wednesday, until actually thursday, when the red flag warnings are over, they cannot have conversations with evacuees about repopulation.

for example, the people who left the palisades area who may have their homes still standing there, cannot try to come back in or discuss that with an escort, with police until these immediate conditions have passed. and so that makes things very difficult, very stressful for a lot of people here. in the meantime, we are learning that authorities are going undercover to make sure there are no looters in these evacuation zones. taking advantage of the situation. they're also scanning the skies to make sure people are not illegally flying drones, because we've already heard from authorities that someone flying a drone had that drone collide into a super scooper. so that happened on thursday, causing that aircraft to be grounded. very serious consequences here. so as they prepare for harsher conditions, fire crews, authorities say they have the resources now that have come in from other places. and the l.a. water system is prepared. back to you. >> winds will, of course, be a

challenge for firefighters as they battle these blazes in southern california. but wind isn't the only environmental factor that could jeopardize their efforts. cnn's allison chinchar has more. the winds have already started to increase across portions of southern california. >> they will continue to do so on monday. >> the concern is there's not really going to be much of a break. so those high wind gusts are still expected to remain in this area at least until tuesday and wednesday of this week. so you have the red flag warnings in effect, indicating those high winds are expected to stay in place through the day monday at least, but also that the humidity levels are going to stay very low. >> when we look at these wind gusts early monday morning, you'll start to see them ticking up 20, 30, even 40mph. by tuesday, you could be looking at wind gusts in excess of 50 to 60mph. in some of these places. that is going to make it incredibly difficult for these firefighters to really make more advancements

in those containment numbers, especially through wednesday. one of the things that has been really working against these areas and the fires is this dark orange color you see here that indicates that they are under a severe drought, where all of the fires are located. and i cannot emphasize enough how dry this area really has been. when you go back to since october 1st, and that is the start of what we refer to as the water year, it does not begin january 1st like the calendar year. it follows more of the natural water cycle. so it begins on october 1st. and since that date, this area around los angeles has only had 3/100 of an inch of rain. normally, they would have at least 4.5in of rain by this point. and the other thing to note too, is usually we don't have fires this large spreading this quickly in january, and the reason for that is because january is actually the second wettest month of the year for this area. when you go back to this same time last year,

january 9th of 2024, none of california was in drought. fast forward one year. now you not only have areas in moderate drought, but also severe and even higher categories of drought just simply because of how little rain this area has had. when we look forward to the forecast, there is no rain in the forecast for at least the next five days. by day six and seven, we do start to see humidity levels begin to tick back up with a very low end possibility for rain in some extreme southern california areas. but again, you're still talking 6 or 7 days out and a lot can change. the only one thing we can hope is that at least it will bring the winds back down, and we can get those humidity levels back up to at least help a little bit for the firefighters well, joining me now from washington is rick crawford, a former battalion chief with the los angeles fire department. >> thank you so much for joining us. >> thanks for having me. >> so can you walk us through the process of containing

multiple wildfires in the midst of high winds? how how do firefighters do that? and what's the biggest challenge? >> well, if you really take what's going on right now with this potential, with this weather forecast that we have with another wind event right in the middle of the firefight, firefighters take advantage of, you know, the law and the lull in the wind as what they're doing right now, they're, you know, using an aerial assault of an array of aircraft to actually, you know, tighten those containment lines. and the red phos-chek, which is the retardant to slow the fire down, that allows those crews to get in face to face with the fire, known as direct attack. and that allows that will start to now allow the firefighters to gain some control. it is critical, very critical of what's happening today in the last 24, in the next 24 hours to really try and get those, get this fire containment numbers up and try and make their suppression efforts very aggressively. so when the wind shifts, do come up. if you do have a spot fire

that happens to pop outside of the containment lines, they will use what they call the 9010 rule. cal fire has the state fire department has a 9010 rule. 90% of the fires to ten acres or less. when you have multiple fires burning like this, they will peel aircraft off of the main fire that's burning and aggressively hit a small fire to to not and to ensure it doesn't become one that's going to be a larger something larger, a larger fire to deal with. so very aggressive attack you'll see in the next 24 hours. >> and of course, as you've been speaking, we've been looking at those percentages of containment. the palisades, only 13%. but the hurst fire, thankfully 89%. but that could change, of course, depending on the weather conditions. but how do you utilize various types of aircraft to fight these multiple fires? what is the process with that? >> so in southern california, very unique. there's there's, you know, fire departments such as los angeles city has one of the largest air, uh, helicopter fleets in the nation. so 6 to 7 aircraft is what they have. and

usually they're aggressively launching three helicopters at the start of any brushfire. uh, there's another thing called the quick reaction force. so we're known as the qrf. it's a conglomerate of resources between los angeles county, orange county and ventura county fire departments, along with the power company southern california edison. it's an array of aircraft with rotary aircraft, the super scoopers, which is one of the heavier aircrafts that can dump up to 1500 gallons per minute, and the smaller helicopters are used for more pinpoint precision, really close in to the mountain range. the super scoopers are more of your heavier doses of water. that's going to be spread over a long period of time. you will also add the aircraft from cal fire, which dumping phos-chek, and you can dump up to one mile long strip of your fire retardant. so you use a combination of aircraft from pinpoint precision, long range dropping and also the the phos-chek to spread the containment line. so it's a it's a big challenge and a very big coordination effort from the aerial firefighting fleet. >> yeah. it is incredible work.

and of course utilizing all the aerial tools available to firefighters is critical. so what happens when it's too windy to use helicopters or planes to help fight and contain these fires? >> well, it's like the palisades fire began where there was an aircraft flying. one of the things i'd like to actually really emphasize is, uh, more than water drops, aerial firefighting aircraft deliver tons of information, such as, you know, the initial part of the fire, where the fire is going, what's in its pathway, the embers where they're floating to. and also, you know, you're looking at the speed and the velocity of the fire. so they're telling the ground commanders a lot of information when that is not there. the ground commanders have to now actually really go to some different tactics. and we have what we call field observers or lookout to try and get to a high point to be able to deliver that same information down to the ground commanders. and those ground commanders now will use their, you know, the fire engines and the firefighters, you know, in a very tactical manner, you know, to try and slow the fire down again, aggressive attack,

hit it hard, hit it fast. concept using that 9010 rule. >> incredible work rick crawford, thank you so much for talking with us and explaining how all this works. appreciate it. >> anytime. >> well, the mayor of malibu says the coastal city has lost a third of its eastern edge to the palisades fire. the third fire to impact malibu in the last three months. now, here's one resident filming what's left of his property. there. >> okay, i'm here at our old house, right in front of it. >> this is the telephone pole. >> um, and that's the tree. >> and what's left of it. >> it stood up, but it's completely burned. um. and this i'm facing straight into what was the old house. there's the air conditioner unit. that's a bathtub, i guess. um, i've got a mask on. >> we can still smell the embers. >> attorney e randol schoenberg

lost his family home along malibu's coast. despite its proximity to water. the wildfire has moved too quickly and too aggressively to spare anything in its path that his brother, cousin and sister have all lost homes as well. and mr. schoenberg joins me now from brentwood, california. currently just outside the evacuation zone. thank you so much for talking with us at this difficult time. i'm so sorry for the loss of your beautiful home. how are you holding up? >> uh, we're we're doing okay. it was, uh, not my sister, but my uncle, my cousin and my brother also lost their homes in the palisades. and we lost our malibu home. um, fortunately, we have we have another home, uh, here in brentwood, where we're. we're still hanging out, but we're right on the edge of the evacuation zone right now. my parents also have had to evacuate their home in brentwood. so it's been a very tough week for us. >> yeah. i mean, as you point

out, you know, even within your family, not just your own home destroyed, you documented the destruction of your brother, uncle and cousins homes. tell us how you were able to to get out first and then, of course, document that. unbelievable loss. >> yeah. i was at my my parents house, actually in, in brentwood when the fire broke out. my brother had come over from the pacific palisades and, and i looked outside and saw a plume of smoke coming up. um, he he needed to immediately evacuate his his family from his home. uh, and i stayed in brentwood. uh, i was able to get back in to document it on friday. so that was three days after it had started, because a czech tv crew asked me for an interview, and they had a press pass and were able to get me inside by then. of course, the evacuation

area was was guarded and people aren't allowed to go in. it's very, um, dangerous, i would say in the in the burn zone because there is so much debris. it's not just the houses that burned, but the telephone poles have all fallen down on their wires all over the place. so it's it's a it's not a very easy thing to get around there. >> yeah. i mean, as we're looking at those pictures, it's hard to believe how you all got out. and of course, this fire moved fast and furiously, didn't it, through this part of l.a. county and what's what's particularly hard to fathom is the proximity of these malibu homes to the water. could anything have been done differently to save yours and other homes along the coast there? >> do you think there's actually a fire hydrant right in front of our home? uh, no. the amazing thing was the speed. if you've seen the the best videos i've seen are the time lapse photos that show the fire going. and instead of the smoke going up, it was going

this way because the the winds that came in were the strongest winds that we ever get here in southern california. it only happens every every three, five years that we have these strong winds. and when that coincides with someone or something starting a fire, the fire just goes across the hills and wipes out everything in its path. just to give you an idea of where it started, uh, on tuesday morning was about eight miles as the crow flies from where our malibu home is, and our home was on fire on tv at 930 that evening. so, uh, that just gives you an idea of how quickly everything was, was spreading. and when the fire comes that way, it's it's impossible to stop. even if there had been fire crews, uh, at every, at every house, they wouldn't have been able to stop the fire because it's coming in horizontally and just wiping everything in its path. >> wow, that is amazing. hearing that. i mean, particularly with some of the efforts to politicize this

situation, i did want to ask you how likely it is that you will rebuild your home. and if you do, how how might you do that differently? do you think? >> i've been thinking about it? of course, when we've had a chance, i did hear that, uh, that the permitting process may be easier than it ordinarily would normally. on our coastline in california, we have a coastal commission that strictly regulates what can be built. and it's it's very cumbersome. but when there's a natural disaster like this, they waive some of those requirements and it's supposedly going to be easier to get permits. i would say, though, that the most pressing need right now on the coastline is cleanup, because our house is one of hundreds, maybe thousand on the coastline there that are basically toxic pits that are still smoldering with all types of rubber and plastic and chemicals. and as soon as we do finally get some rain, which hopefully will come at some point, that is all going

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together, they've destroyed more than 12,000 structures. among the areas ravaged by the flames, the pacific palisades neighborhood of los angeles. these before and after photos show the businesses and homes it's destroyed. what were once shops and cafes are now reduced to a pile of rubble and ash. the palisades fire has burned through nearly 24,000 acres, and more than 5000 structures so far. well, pacific palisades is not the only community devastated by these fires. just a few short miles away in an area of malibu. flames have reduced family homes to ashes, shattering hundreds of lives in just a matter of moments amid the ash and ruin. it seems just a handful of homes are still standing, some by simple luck of the draw, others by sheer determination. and kathy elden's case. it was her neighbor who battled back the flames as they approached her

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for saving your home. how did you get to safety and how did your neighbors make that happen for you and others? >> well, it's something that people have to be trained for. >> there's something called cert, which is a citizen's emergency response training, and you learn how to really pull together as a team and how you can prepare. >> we as a little bitty street, we had six. >> we now have five houses, came together, pooled our resources fire hoses and learned how to do it. and it was due to our doctor, chester griffiths, and two of our neighbors who literally have been positioned there nonstop putting out fires. they said they put out fires 15 times on our house. our creative vision center for creative activism, right next door. they were standing on the roof putting out fires. it's extraordinary that we survived it. you know, we're the only commercial building for miles and for about three miles. we are one of a few homes that still are

existing on the pch in this particular area. >> and you mentioned, yes, you mentioned doctor griffiths that he had just performed brain surgery that day. and then of course, two brain surgeries and then performed this. extraordinary. you mentioned creative visions was also saved. you started that nonprofit in honor of your 22 year old son, dan, who was a photographer for reuters but was tragically killed in mogadishu. what does the fact that this building was also saved in the midst of all the devastation, mean for the work done on your son's behalf? >> that is really a great question. this building exists to support the storytellers who will tell our world what is going on, and we have hundreds of projects and productions under creative visions. we have students rebuild, which is touching millions of kids to teach them how to tell stories. we need stories that talk about the greed that is driving our

planet to raise the temperatures and minimize the resources that that we have. it's yeah, that's the purpose. dan was telling a story. he died to tell a story with three other people. we have to tell the stories that we're going to move people's hearts and minds to make different decisions. yeah. >> and dan's work was incredible and so young, too. so when do you think you might be able to return to your home, and how do you feel about that, given the total devastation that surrounds it we lost people who lose houses. >> many of them have told me, look, the house, we can replace the house. maybe sometime, somehow. stuff. we don't need more stuff. it is the communities that are lost. it is the. as you were saying earlier, the bakery and the butcher and the candlestick maker. we don't have any place to go now. there's there's no palisades fire. we have no place to go. we have to come together as communities and be kind to one another. you know,

people are hurling accusations. we have to realize the root cause and shift our gears. i don't know when we're going to be back. we're ready. we're ready to go back and be a beacon of light that, that, that center. but it's toxic land. and i couldn't breathe the air. i went back for for a couple of hours, and i came back coughing and my eyes were burning. it's heartbreaking. it's going to be a while. >> yeah. i mean, it's going to take time to remove the toxic, toxic version that's there. but the rebuild will go forward. what will it take for the community to come together to rebuild? >> i think we realize now even the most glitzy celebrities can't save us. it's going to take every man and woman and child. i think it's going to be driven by children. these kids are not going to stand by and say yes to climate deniers. they know that it's human made climate climate issues. they are not. they are going and aware of what's

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