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more of treacherous winds, gusts that could reach hurricane levels. a growing number of people in california calling on president elect donald trump to visit los angeles county after he blamed the fires on governor newsom and other democrats. and a warning to those affected by the fires watch out for scams. what you need to know about potential price gouging. as more fraudsters look to capitalize on the devastation. i'm john berman with sara steiner and kate bolduan. this is cnn news central. >> we are following the breaking news still this morning. an all out race against mother nature fire crews trying to get as much containment as possible, battling multiple deadly wildfires. still, before the winds kick back up once again, an extremely critical that's how it's deemed three out of three. weather

risk is back in effect for southern california this week, which means the progress made this weekend against the fire line could quickly come to a halt. the death toll in the disaster is also rising now. it stands at 24 people confirmed killed, and officials say dozens more are being reported missing overnight. we learned that the remains of 95 year old alice curry were discovered over 100,000 people are still under evacuation orders. thousands of homes destroyed. and moments ago, we spoke with the director of fema who shared this urgent message. >> this is such a dangerous situation still, and i just want to make sure that everybody is listening to their local officials so they can keep themselves safe, and the firefighters are able to do the critical work that they need to continue to do to suppress this fire. >> meteorologist allison

chinchar, standing by with the very important forecast. first, let's go to stephanie elam in malibu. and that does not look like a scene of malibu behind you, stephanie, what's the latest you're hearing? >> it's not at all, kate. i mean, even right now, if you hear the cars coming behind me, their fire trucks, their hotspots, hotshots coming through here. crews that are coming in and probably changing out as we're getting closer to daybreak here. but what you were talking about those winds. let me tell you, the winds are already starting. we've got a few strong gusts that have come through here where we're standing in malibu. and this is where when the fire first started, this was on sort of the northwestern edge of it. and you can see some of the destruction here behind me. this is what used to be an inn. it's like an old timey inn that was here along the highway, driving up the beautiful pacific coast highway here. all of these sort of smaller operations, some large corporations, some homes, businesses of all sizes.

nothing has been spared by this. palisades fire and the eaton fire. and you look at how many acres that they have burned through. according to data from cal fire. just to put this in perspective, all of the area that has been burned between the palisades fire, the hurst fire and the eaton fire, all of that is more than the total area of paris. just to help people put that into perspective and we're not done. the containment numbers are not where we would like them to be. i will say right now, though, they did some great work on the mandeville canyon for the palisades fire over the weekend to stop it from progressing further. they're still out there. they put crews in overnight just to be there to stage ahead of these winds. and i know a lot of people want to get back into their homes. if they're in those evacuation areas. but there is concern as far as officials,

>> since 1976, hasn't seen since i was born. so this is fuels that haven't burned since the 50s the infrastructure is destroyed. >> and that is part of the reason why it's going to take a long time for people to get in there and rebuild. and that seems like a distant thought for some of the people who don't even know how to begin the process. kate. >> absolutely. and i mean, you hear from the fema director to the governor saying, more than six months, more than nine months to even clear debris. i mean, it's it's such a long road ahead. and the fight hasn't even fight. the fight against the fires hasn't even stopped yet. it's great to see you, stephanie. thank you so much for your reporting as

always, john. yeah. >> the big problem this morning is it's not not even stopped as they could get worse in the coming days because the conditions now are as dangerous as they can be. extremely critical. level three out of three. let's get right to meteorologist allison chinchar for a look at these dangers in this weather. these wind gusts they're facing. >> yeah that's right. so we've got the wind advisories and the high wind warnings already in place. the wind advisory starts today because we anticipate those wind gusts to get up around 50 to 55mph. then beginning at 4 a.m. tuesday, this will be upgraded to a high wind warning for the area you see here in that dark red. that's because tuesday and wednesday, those wind gusts could get up to 70mph. so not quite hurricane strength, but still very close and very, very high to the point where they could still cause a significant amount of damage, especially by spreading those fires not only today, but also tuesday. you have a level three out of three, the highest possible level for these fire weather concerns. and that's the extreme, the pink color that you see there on your screen. again, showing that this is going to be a long term event. this is not going to be just a

couple of hours today of some strong winds. and that's it. we are anticipating those wind gusts of at least 30 to 40mph starting today and continuing all the way through wednesday. you look at these winds, they'll start to tick up as we go through the day today, continuing on through tuesday as well as wednesday. now you may start to see the wind direction itself shift a little bit, but that's going to be the only thing that really changes, not necessarily the speed component of it, but the direction also plays a big role in terms of the firefighters. they go into this with a plan in place when those wind directions begin to change, that can throw that plan off entirely, and it makes it much more difficult for those firefighters to continue to fight the fires. >> three days of these extreme conditions. allison chinchar, thank you very much for that, sarah. >> all right. in altadena and pasadena, the fire has burned more than 14,000 acres and is just 27% contained. residents there held a donation drive for wildfire victims as search and recovery efforts continue there. joining us now is the

mayor of pasadena, victor gordo thank you so much, mayor, for for joining us this morning in this crisis that you are currently dealing with. major, the fires have caused damage in your city and in adjoining altadena, which is next door. what is the status of the danger of that fire? right now that is just 27% contained. >> well, you know, first and foremost, our thoughts here in pasadena go out to all of the affected victims in pasadena, altadena, and the palisades. um, the fire, as you've been discussing here live on the show has shifted. the winds have shifted. where the where the winds were. heading towards an easterly direction. um, so, you know, in pasadena, we're still in altadena. we're seeing some smoldering. we're seeing some flare ups, but nowhere near the wind fed fire

inferno that we saw in the past few days. we are concerned about the the pickup in the winds from 30 to 50 miles an hour. again, not close to the 100 mile an hour winds that we. wind gusts that we were seeing just a few days ago, but still very significant. >> can you describe the historic significance of some of the areas that have been devastated by the fire and what they have meant, particularly to the black and latino population of los angeles? >> you know, the, the, the, the, these areas of pasadena, northwest pasadena and altadena. are, um, heavily populated by latinos and african americans and asian americans. uh, really in large part because of the redlining that would occur, uh, decades ago, uh, and altadena was thought to be sort of the boonies of the community, when in fact, it's a beautiful, beautiful community that's just

been absolutely devastated. uh, but the the impact of the fire, uh, particularly in northwest pasadena and altadena, is very is felt very much by working class. um, often retired and fixed income. um, african-american families and latinos who have passed on these homes for generations and sadly, many of them, for many of them, it's all that they have in their family. >> yeah, it's all they have. when you talk about redlining, this was the place where black and latino families were able to go because they couldn't buy in other places, in parts of los angeles. you know, there was already a homeowners insurance crisis where people were getting dropped or not being able to renew policies in california because of previous fires. is insurance coverage the next disaster for californians in your mind? >> no question. i've had conversations with the

governor, uh, with representatives from the county. uh, and, uh, representatives at the white house, um, and the director of fema. and what i've said to them is the looming crisis after you, if you will, is the insurance crisis. many people were dropped, uh, not too long ago. uh, many people will be woefully underinsured. uh, and many people may not have insurance because they simply couldn't afford it. uh, you know, many of their homes because they were passed on from generation to generation, uh, didn't require, uh, insurance. and people who couldn't afford it may not have insured. uh, and so this is, uh, this is an issue that we as a society have a moral, uh, and obligation to address together to help these people, uh, particularly those that were underinsured or had no insurance at all.

>> yeah, it's really disturbing. i do want to ask you lastly, what pasadena has been doing the home of the rose parade, the home of the rose bowl. what have you been doing to try and help not only your city, but surrounding cities? >> well, you know, it is amazing to believe that, you know, less than two weeks ago, uh, we were celibate, celebrating, passing is pageantry, showing off to the world. our beautiful city, our beautiful rose bowl stadium. uh, the parade, uh, and just in a matter of days, here we are. uh, seeing, uh, you know, one of the worst disasters, if not the worst disaster that we've witnessed. you know, we all talk about the big one. uh, but we didn't expect to come in the form of an inferno. uh, fed by winds. uh, but this is the big one. for all intents and purposes. um, and so we immediately have stood up an evacuation center and operations command. we have

over over 3000 firefighters that are staged out of the rose bowl stadium. we have over 2000 people that are being housed and fed. uh, people who have lost their homes. um, at the convention center, uh, we are uh, we have, you know, it's all hands on deck. um, and we're starting the work of assessing what the short term needs will be in terms of housing. uh, people will need to be housed. you know, fema and, uh, and the federal government are anticipating, uh, 20 to 30,000 people will be displaced permanently. and those people will need a place to live. and so we're we're starting that assessment. uh, how do we help them? you know, whether they're in pasadena or altadena is simply doesn't matter to us. we're one community. we're a very tight knit community. in fact, uh, pasadena and altadena together are known as la niña. and so, uh, we will work with residents

from both communities, uh, to develop a plan for temporary housing and then transition people to permanent housing. um, and so we we've been very busy in pasadena. uh, i just want to say thank you to the various agencies from throughout california. uh, and, and the country who have helped out, who have responded and are helping out. and, of course, our national guard that is also helping out. >> pasadena mayor victor gordo, thank you so much. our hearts go out to you. i love the city of pasadena. so many people watch that rose parade every year. it is a beautiful sight and it's very hard to see what's happening there now. i appreciate your time. kate. >> yeah. even as that fire fight continues, the political fight has begun. the president elect, donald trump, criticizing california officials for their handling of this disaster. california's governor responding to say, come and see the emergency efforts for himself. also, president biden begins his

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also senior fellow on the council of foreign relations and columnist for the washington post, max boot. max to you first. biden's national security advisor has said he left the next administration in a stronger, more secure position in the world than four years ago. a clear sort of dig to trump. so what do you expect to hear from biden and whatever he says, hearing that from the national security advisor? do you think that trump will heed any of the advice biden has been given? >> well, the last question is the easiest to answer. it's i could pretty definitively assure you that trump will ignore everything that biden says and just heap abuse on his head. of course, biden will try to take a victory lap, but there are not a lot of victories in sight. i would say that his foreign policy has been kind of a unsatisfying middle of the road muddle, where he has basically alienated pretty much everybody when it comes to both aid to

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european officials about the biden trump transition? >> yeah, diplomats and officials i've spoken to have a slightly kinder take. they say that biden was a steady hand after the mercurial nature of the trump administration the first time around. um, reliable, although risk averse. so, yes, a little bit of the middle ground. but biden was able to pull together allies and partners to lead the aid to ukraine, perhaps not fast enough for ukraine, not fast enough for some of the european allies, but steady. same thing with gaza. biden tried to keep netanyahu on the u.s. side, as well as maintaining the negotiations with gulf countries, keeping a line open to hamas even as

the biden administration condemned everything hamas had done. so that is perhaps unsatisfying that it was the the field of grays instead of the black and white of the trump administration. but i've had european officials tell me they much preferred it, and they are living in a bit of anxiety with the trump administration to come. >> max, i do want to ask you about how you think that biden is going to speak about whether he'll speak about some of the things that happened in foreign policy during his term. there was the chaotic and deadly withdrawal from afghanistan. you, of course, have the israel-hamas war and the ukraine war all cropping up. what does he need to say about these things? >> well, i mean, i think there's what he needs to say and what he will actually say. i mean, like most presidents giving, you know, an end of the term address, he will try to put the best possible face on on what he achieved. for example, you know, the afghanistan exit was widely

seen as a fiasco that really hurt biden's standing politically. of course, he'll brag about the fact that u.s. forces are not engaged in combat anywhere in the world, that he ended the war in afghanistan. without delving too deeply into how he ended it. and of course, he will make some of the points that kim just made about how he assembled a coalition of allies to help ukraine. he assembled another coalition of allies to contain and deter china. and i think that's a major improvement. he did a lot to bolster the u.s. chip industry and and to stop the export of u.s. high technology to china. i think those are significant achievements, and i'm sure he'll talk about how he backed israel in its struggle against hamas and and hezbollah, even though a lot of people thought that he was an enabler. uh, of, you know, israeli attacks in, in gaza in particular, that killed an awful lot of civilians. so he'll certainly put the best possible face. and there is a case to be made for the biden foreign policy. i just don't think he's going

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that's taking over january 20th, and it's important for us to continue the momentum we have right now. i've got constituents that are grieving that are have lost everything. and i, as an elected official and as a leader, need to make sure that the politics of today do not do not cloud their ability to rebuild. >> how have the politics of today impacted the discussion around these fires? the last week? >> quite frankly, it hasn't. and i want to make sure it doesn't. and that's why i sent the letter to the incoming president. for me, it's not about party. my my constituents. i went to a meeting last night. a public meeting with with the people that have lost their homes. they don't care whether you're a republican or a democrat. they just want people to do their job. we all got elected to represent and to lead from both the county, the state and

the federal. and that is exactly what i plan to do. and i plan to work with this administration, with this president, just like i did with the current administration, that is leaving. >> has the president elect responded to your letter? >> we've gotten a positive response, not directly from president trump, but i'm confident, given the fact that that the very people that he spoke to when he was on the campaign trail, i can speak for altadena. that is exactly who he was talking to. this is a community that has every range of socioeconomic, uh, breadwinners. they they are they represent exactly who he was talking about. >> you say you represent altadena. i should have asked you right off the top. how are you doing? and your constituents? there's been so much suffering there. >> yeah. thank you for asking. i mean, i live very, very close to the area that impacted. and and i've been up there and

i've got at least 15 friends more probably, that have lost everything. and it's it's devastating. i went to the convention center in pasadena yesterday, and i ran into people that i didn't even know lived up and altadena that have lost everything. and we're talking ceos. we're talking gardeners, we're talking i mean, it's across. it's devastating. and what's even scarier, some of them didn't have insurance. i met a man who lost his job because the business that he worked at is gone. and then he lost his home and he has no insurance. so we have a lot of work to do with this administration. and i'm confident that president trump is going to work with us, because i want to put together low interest loans, because for these people that don't have insurance, they're not going to be able to go to the bank and get get a loan at the interest rates being charged. we need to think outside the box, and we need to recognize that this truly these people are the fabric of america. and altadena

is a reflection of really all that is good because whether you're black, white, hispanic, it doesn't matter. they all work together and it's one community that recognizes that that that we're all in this together. >> you know, i think it does go without saying. there have been some political differences between former president, president-elect trump and the california governor, gavin newsom, in the past, even though there has been disaster relief to california at times, there was a suggestion, well, maybe because california is a blue state that he wouldn't give it as quickly or as easily. any concerns on that front? >> no. you know, for me, i'm staying focused. i'm going to speak for my constituents, and i'm not going to let the politics of the name calling get, get in my way. i'm confident. i'm confident based on people i've talked to that are very, very connected to the administration coming in that this president is going to recognize that the people that

he was elected to represent need him, and he's going to stand tall and he's going to stand up for us. >> and in terms of the governor's response, how has that been? >> you know, what i've said is, i mean, i don't think you disclose this, but i'm the only republican on the board of supervisors, and i don't care whether you're a republican or a democrat either. i want people to do their job. i want people to do what they were elected to do. just what i'm doing. and and, you know, i work with the governor, i work with the mayor of the city of la. i if i didn't, i wouldn't be doing my job. >> kathryn barger from the los angeles board of supervisors, thank you so much for being with us this morning. best to you and best to your constituents. sarah. >> all right. ahead, crews and resources are being put in place ahead of deteriorating weather conditions. we are going to take you back to california as more dangerous winds are

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worst tragedy they've ever faced in their lives. and so we're seeing people who are posing as firefighters to get into disaster areas, to steal from the victims who have been evacuated and, and displaced. um, there are charges for this is essentially looting is essentially burglary in a designated disaster area. and i was with the sheriff and the police chief of l.a. two days ago in l.a. on the ground, and we will be cracking down on any looting that we see. we're seeing some there are arrests. the sheriff has made arrests and he is keeping people in custody as this is not the time to revictimize the victim or exploit those who are suffering as they are antrying to recover and rebuild from a tragedy. it's time to lift people up. that's who we are. as california californians. we should be supporting each other, not hurting each other. >> you also warned this weekend

about scammers trying to move, move in and target people as well, as well as some instances of price gouging. you were warning against price gouging. what kinds of scams are you seeing and what can people do to protect themselves, to make sure that they're not taken advantage of? >> again, unfortunately, at times like this, in tragedies, you see the in the worst of times you see the best in people often, but you also see folks who are taking advantage of others. and so that comes in many forms. one is price gouging. we have price gouging laws in the state of california. penal code 396. it prevents prices after the declaration of emergency to be raised by more than 10% from the prices before the declaration of emergency. and so we are getting many reports that housing and hotels are that those prices are being raised more than 10%. this applies to all sort of essential supplies, medical supplies, gas, water, food, transportation, batteries. and

so if you see any prices that seem to be raised by more than 10%, please report it to us at. oag. ca.gov report. we're also seeing scams and frauds when people are in need and vulnerable, they're also vulnerable to those seeking to take advantage of them. we're seeing contractor frauds where folks say, i can help you rebuild and i can help you rebuild fast. and if you give me a significant down payment, up front payment, i can take care of you. and they take the down payment, the up front payment, and never perform the work. we're seeing insurance adjuster scams where, um, a personal identifying information is taken, where it's seeing folks who are asking for fees to connect victims with free government services. you don't need to pay anyone. they're free. we're seeing also folks who are asking for upfront payments to help find others victims housing. so there's a whole variety. and then there's also those scams and frauds where you try to take advantage of

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think this is going to become a criminal matter? are these investigations that you think will eventually land on your desk? >> i don't know yet. and, you know, important to uncover all the facts, be clear and sure and certain about the root causes, not to jump to any conclusions, but we need to be open to any possibilities wherever the facts lead. um, there are some indications that arson is a possibility, that we have to be open to that. and that's a crime in california, punishable by up to nine years in state prison. it's very serious. it can also be accompanied by other criminal charges, including homicide. if someone has died in the fire that was caused by arson, um, burglaries can be accompanied as well. so these are very serious charges and allegations. but we need to be patient. we need to make sure we do a thorough vetting of all the facts and see where they lead. >> absolutely. attorney general, thank you very much for coming on. we appreciate

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>> this morning, california fire officials are urging patience as residents are eager to return to see what is left of their homes. with me now is sue cole, a longtime resident, i should say, and president of the pacific palisades community council. sue, i just want to ask you how you're doing this morning. >> you know, it's up and down every hour, but i'm trying to keep a very positive attitude. so i guess i'd say i'm doing fine. everybody's healthy 30 years you've lived in the palisades, you know. >> what's it been like for you to see the devastation? >> well, it's been for me and for everyone else. absolutely devastating. i mean, most people know the status of their homes by now, but a lot of people really don't know. and i've been to a couple different services this week where it was an opportunity for people to just come together, not in the palisades, obviously, because there's really nowhere to go there. um,

but, you know, um, for everyone who's lost their home, i mean, people like me lost everything. not only the home, but every single thing in it. so it's it's confusing sometimes during the day because you think about, oh, i got to get this or i got to do this. oh, yeah. no, i don't have that anymore. i can't get that. you know, um, it's very disconcerting, but i think we're all going to get through it. i mean, these services have been a tremendous opportunity for people to pray together, talk together, and mainly, i think what everybody needs desperately and wants desperately is just the opportunity to be together. um, there's a lot of email chains and text chains, but actually getting together and seeing each other in person and being able to hug and cry together is very helpful to so many people who've lost everything you said. >> you lost everything. yeah. how hard is

it to i mean, how hard is it to figure out what you do next? >> well, you know, the first things are to, uh, our first priority was trying to find a place to live. so we're in two different temporary places for the first two weeks. and then this angel family. long time friends of our family. like from many, many years ago, just called us and said that they have a little house that they'd like, that they were going to run out and they would put us at the top of the list if we wanted it. so, i mean, we grabbed it so fast, so at least we have an address. um, all of my friends are getting po boxes, but i actually have a street address, which is, you know, no one thinks much about that. but i'm very excited to have an address. uh, a place where i know i can at least call home for a year.

it's a huge comfort. >> think about that. those words. i have an address. at least i have an address. i can't imagine it's the type of thing you ever thought you'd be saying? just a few weeks ago. we introduced you. we talked about how officials are calling for patience from people who live in that community. how hard is it to find that patience? >> yeah. >> okay. um, you know, for a couple days, they were letting people line up in their cars, and the lapd officers were escorting people into the palisades. um, a lot of people wanted a picture of their property because they need that to file insurance claims. people just wanted to see what was left of their house, see if they could maybe, you know, wear gloves and a mask and find anything in the rubble. but yesterday, um, the chief of police stopped, all escorted visits. um, not so much because it's toxic up there, which it is, but because of looters. i have a very good friend who waited in line for 11 hours in

a car, waiting to get up, and got up to his house and found his house standing but damaged, but having been looted and, um, the interview that you had before me was talking about that in these situations, you do find the very best of humanity reaching out, wanting to help, donating. i mean, i'm wearing donated clothes, you know, um, but you find criminals, you find people that will just take advantage. and i think that's why the escorts have stopped temporarily. they've got national guard and lapd, but it's just too hard. >> well, let's hope there's more of the best and so much less of the worst. sue kohl. we're thinking about you. we're glad you are okay. in the days they'll get better. thank you. >> absolutely. thank you so much. i appreciate it. >> absolutely. another rough week begins. >> the address is going to sit with me. >> at least i have an address. >> excited to have an address. >> it's just it's down to

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