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faster than job postings. get your own paychex recruiting copilot now at paychex.com/tv. >> today on inside politics critical hours. firefighters in southern california are rushing to make progress fighting the flames, as forecasters predict dangerous winds will blow through the region again today and tomorrow. >> and it could put new neighborhoods in the danger zone. >> plus, a pivotal week for president-elect trump and his would-be cabinet. his embattled pick will to run the pentagon will make his case to senators. >> that will happen tomorrow. but the question is whether pete hegseth is already a sure bet for confirmation. >> and a cuomo comeback. three years ago, he left the new york governor's mansion in disgrace. we have new reporting about the big new job. andrew cuomo is now eyeing. i'm dana bash. let's go behind the
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headlines. and inside politics. it's hard to believe that we are closing in on one week since los angeles fire started to spread and ravage countless homes and invaluable memorabilia that tell stories of generations of families. it's even harder to believe that right now, we are approaching critical hours in the fight to contain new fires. the winds are picking up and they are threatening to spread the flames into new areas and reversed the progress firefighters made over the weekend to contain the palisades and eton fires. the area could see sustained winds of 50mph. >> we're making urgent preparations, my top priority and the priority of everyone else, is to do everything we can to protect lives. as these winds approach. l.a. city firefighters and firefighters
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from across the county, state and nation and even overseas are in a proactive and strategic posture to save lives. >> at least 24 people are dead, and officials warn that is likely to climb. now, at this hour, the palisades and eaton fire fires have burned nearly 40,000 acres of land, and there's still a very, very long way to go to get them under control. i want to get straight to cnn's veronica miracle. she is in altadena, california. we have seen over the past week how hard it has been hit. we can see it over your shoulder there. what's the status there now? >> dana? well, right now it's really a situation of cleanup and investigation and still searching for missing people. that's what's happening here. we are in a mandatory evacuation zone, so people still have not been able to come back and see if their home is the one that was spared, like the ones across the
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street, or if they have burned to the ground. i mean, you see, behind me, this home is really just foundation. we're seeing a lot of fireplaces and cars or the remnants of cars, and that's pretty much it for blocks and blocks and blocks. absolutely devastating. you know, authorities, they just had a press conference. and one of the main things they talked about is they understand that people want to get back inside. they want to see what's going on here, but it's just not safe for a number of reasons. first, because there's toxic ash in the air. there are also potential gas lines that they haven't been able to take, take care of. and then they've got people who are working on the power lines here. you can see crews are working furiously all up and down this area and all of these neighborhoods to just make sure that things are safe. there are downed power lines everywhere, and you can see they're actually reinstalling a pole right here. so that's one concern. and then there's the issue of making sure that there are no other people who have died here. they
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are finding remains. take a listen to what authorities had to say. >> we are in the third day of grid searching. it is a very grim task and we unfortunately, every day we're doing this, we're running across the remains of individual community members. that is not easy work. very sad to report. and i believe that work is not only going to continue, but i believe will continue to find remains. >> so in addition to all of that, now, fema administrators are saying that it is going to take at least six months to clean up all of this debris. that is going to be a herculean task. not only is it because the toxic ash that is now seeping into the soil, they're going to have to remove entire foundations of homes, and that is going to be an incredible task. so there is the question of what is going to happen to
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those people who have lost their homes. where are they going to be able to stay? how are they going to rebuild? how do you rebuild an entire community? just to give you kind of a scope of how much has burned between the hurst fire, which is a little north of us, the eaton fire here in the altadena area and the palisades fire, the amount that is burned is bigger than the size of paris, bigger than the city of paris. so here in altadena, a lot of cleanup, a lot of work is happening, investigations are happening, authorities are working around the clock to try and make sure that people can get back. and there's also the concern of the wind event that is coming this week. back to you, dana. >> yeah, a big concern. and that scope is so important to impress upon people because it's really hard to fathom, of course, when it's your home or god forbid, your loved one, the scope and how big it is doesn't matter. it's about what memorabilia was was lost and more importantly, god forbid again, what people were lost.
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thank you veronica. appreciate that reporting. i've got three terrific reporters here with me at the table. catherine lucey of the wall street journal. cnn's jeff zeleny and manu raju, you know, as we get into all things new here in washington, and that is, of course, the new congress, which is already underway. we are going to have new members of the trump cabinet have their confirmation hearings this week. and, of course, donald trump himself will take his oath a week from today. what swept them into office? republicans in charge. is frustration. anger. just a feeling of not feeling good about this country. this is something that officials cannot control. and yet it is no question going to add to that feeling and continue to make
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people in this country, particularly in california, feel incredibly unsettled. >> yeah. and look, it's a crisis. he's going to have to confront immediately, even if this fire is contained, hopefully it is contained over the next couple of days. we'll see. the rebuilding is going to take years. it's going to cost tens of billions of dollars to rebuild. it's going to require a significant federal partner. you've heard local officials over the last couple of days saying they need donald trump and his administration to be fully supportive of the federal rebuilding effort, and they are pushing him to actually come and visit as well. they believe that maybe they're making some progress in getting him there, but that will be the big question. there's going to be they're going to have to figure out how much money that will be needed for california, what conditions, if any, to place on that money. there's some suggestions from republicans that there would be conditions and whether democrats would agree to that. and typically these things are done. there's bipartisan support and there's lots of money that goes into places that are hit by natural disasters. will that happen
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this time? that's going to be a big question for the new administration. will they put past grievances aside and come together? it's uncertain. yeah. >> and that's and before we even get there, what's going on inside california state and more local politics is unsurprisingly, a lot of again, anger among the residents of los angeles county. frustration. and it's being aimed at everybody from the democratic governor to the democratic mayor to other officials. let's listen to what gavin newsom said over the weekend about that. >> we just want the adjudication of the facts. >> as i say, it's not about finger pointing. >> it's about answering the questions you and everybody wants answered. we're all better off, and we're working together to take care of people and to make sure people are supported. >> look, i mean, this is going to be a test of his leadership. i mean, there's no, um, surprise or mystery. >> the fact that he has
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national ambitions, all of that is put on hold right now. and i think he would agree with it. i mean, solving the or being on top of the catastrophe and the crisis, which is very much in its very beginning stages, is going to determine his political future if there is one. but a politics aside, what i think is different about sort of this crisis or tragedy from katrina, and obviously it's different in its entirety. like who is in charge? and i think that obviously he's the governor, but the mayor. obviously has started this crisis. she was absent. she was on a trip outside of los angeles. the los angeles times has been doing incredible reporting on this. um, they had a story, as did the new york times, as saying she was on her fifth trip internationally and said that she would stop traveling internationally. all those questions will be resolved later, but it does seem to me, as we approach a new moment here in washington with the president elect, we have heard what he has said before about about california.
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he has specifically said back in 2017 and 2018, i believe it was he was wondering how many people voted for him. and that was even last year. how many voted for him in in california before he gives a disaster aid. so my guess is that, you know, he also assumes this leadership role, but it is, uh, probably not the best time for there to be a change of hands here when there is a deep political crisis in california. yeah. >> i mean, we'll see about the leadership role. he is, by definition, going to be in that role regardless of how he plays it starting next week. and how he's playing it now is is not that just continuing what he did last week? for example, on saturday he put on his social media platform. the fires are still raging in l.a. the incompetent polls have no idea how to put them out. thousands of magnificent houses are gone, many of them. more soon will be lost. there is death all over the place. this is one of the worst catastrophes in the history of our country. they just can't put out the fires.
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what's wrong with them? you kind of alluded to this, but i want to play what gavin newsom told our colleague kyung lah. uh, he was specifically responding to something that jd vance, the soon to be vice president, said on sunday. but he incorporated a renewed invitation to both of them. >> i would invite him, as i did donald trump, to to visit with the community. >> express empathy of the scale of this tragedy and and be here for the american people that happen to reside here in southern california. >> yeah, i mean, gavin newsom and donald trump have clashed in the past. they've clashed over how to handle disasters in the past. this isn't a new fight, but clearly the governor is trying to take the temperature, temperature down here. he knows, as manu said, this is going to be a massive rebuilding effort. the amount of federal money that's going to be needed is going to be huge. and if trump makes it harder for that money to go out the door, does he start putting conditions on it? does he
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politicize it? those are real worries. well, that talking to that ship has sailed. yeah, i mean so so a lot of the you know, i've talked to some house members in l.a. last week who are really worried about this and how that how this is going to unfold and what he might, what he might do. >> and you were talking about the funding. of course, that's what you're following on a minute by minute basis. listen to what john barrasso, who, of course, is a member of the senate republican leadership, said about, um, federal funding to go to help rebuild. >> people want to make sure that as rebuilding occurs, as things go on in california, they have to be resilient so that these sorts of things can't happen again in the policies of the liberal administration out there, i believe, have made these fires worse. >> i expect that there will be strings attached to money that is ultimately approved. >> now, i just want to throw in here, and you can certainly add to this because you know, the nitty gritty, there were not significant
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strings attached when the congress gave money to states that were affected by hurricane helene. and milton states that are run largely by republicans. these are red states, um, yeah. >> there was roughly $100 billion in that aid that was rolled into a larger bill to keep the government open. you know, you've heard some conservatives in the past say that they need to cut spending to offset the amount of money that goes to federal aid. the efforts. but usually that's a small portion of the house republican conference or senate republican conference. this is a republican leader. the number two, republican, john barrasso, saying there will be some strings attached. it's unclear exactly what that means, but the process will work like this. the white house budget office, which would be run by russ vought, who is a conservative nominee to run that office, assuming that he is confirmed, they'll put out a request for how much money they want. they will go through the
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senate and the house to figure out what they want. now, if vote and trump are demanding certain conditions, then that's where the republican leadership ultimately is going to be. and that would be a shift, considerable shift than we've seen in the past, which is bipartisan support behind a lot of money that's needed for places that desperately are hit hard, particularly red states. >> yeah, no strings attached that we certainly in recent history. and now it's a very democratic state. they're singing a different tune. all right. stand by. coming up next, the trump cabinet hearings begin, starting with pete hegseth. a month ago, his nomination was teetering, but now his confirmation looks like a very, very different situation. we'll give you reporting on that after the break. >> i lay on my back, frozen, thinking the darkest thoughts, and then everything changed, dana said. >> you're still you and i love you, super man. >> the christopher reeve story
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and at the beginning of this process, this transition process, several of donald trump's nominees, including and especially the one we'll see tomorrow, pete were in trouble. yeah. doesn't seem like that. >> it doesn't seem that way because a lot of republicans have been convinced saying, let the process move forward. hold your concerns. don't don't draw any red lines. don't take any positions. and we've not heard any opposition whatsoever. and remember, in order to get confirmed, they need to make sure that they can limit republican defections to three. and at the moment we have not heard anyone say they're opposed to pete hegseth, even very notably joni ernst, who we're going to be watching very closely at that senate armed services committee hearing. they worked very hard to win her over. she was a subject of a pressure campaign, too. she's up for reelection in 2026. of course, that primary always looms large over any republican or democratic candidate. and we'll see how she ultimately comes down. but look, this is still going to be a very important moment for
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her. how does he answer these questions about his past, the excessive drinking allegations, sexual assault allegations denied all of that. how does he deal with that publicly? will there be more that emerge in the days ahead? all big questions. but if you were betting, you'd probably bet on all these nominations at the moment getting through and what people don't necessarily think through is that generally speaking, historically speaking, if somebody makes it to the point of a hearing and if the get that far. >> generally speaking, they push their way through jeff zeleny just give some examples of cabinet nominees who were rejected actually got a vote and rejected john tower. of course, the most famous lewis strauss and you remember good old charles warren from the calvin coolidge administration. >> that was a fun administration. i remember it well with you before television. uh, look, sometimes it feels like that. but you're right. if it makes the
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confirmation hearing. and i'm thinking back, of course, to some famous ones in the obama administration, tom daschle, first and foremost, didn't make it because of taxes not paid to a driver. i believe it was. but this is a whole different era, obviously. um, i do think the question is how the nominees not necessarily if they're confirmed, because i agree with you, they probably will be, but how they sort of stand up to the scrutiny and how they take the the questions largely coming from democrats, but perhaps a few republicans as well, and how they handle it. i mean, we've seen several, um, sort of hearings. i'm thinking back also to a chuck hagel during the obama administration. he he was not prepared, uh, of the former nebraska senator, i'm from there, obviously have covered him a long time. he looked like he didn't prepare at all, just going in there to sit at the senate. so i think that these nominees will be prepared. but the degree to which they're not, i think if it does expose their qualifications for these positions, that's probably the biggest damaging thing of all. but look, we've said this a lot. this is donald trump's republican party, totally different than 2017. and these
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are loyal nominees to him. so yes, they will largely get through. >> and catherine, it's the republican party, of course. but then the question that this is going to help to start to answer is how democrats are going to approach, approach a republican rule, particularly the trump years .2.0. chuck schumer, it's reported that he said privately to democrats. republicans spent four years attacking the democratic brand. and we need to use these hearings to begin to return the favor. there are some notable just specifically looking at the hegseth hearing that we're going to watch tomorrow, some notable democrats who we can probably expect to be extremely.
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>> preparation, and we hope that mother nature gives us a break a little bit, too. >> yeah, i totally hear you on the fact that these are called natural disasters for for a
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reason. and this is unprecedented when it comes to these suburban areas, these, these densely populated places where these fires are going. i talked to one official earlier who said that it's the houses themselves that became became, um, the, the incinerators for other houses nearby. having said that, you said that you were prepared before, and yet we still saw so much devastation. what is your response to those who are your constituents, your residents, your neighbors? who want political accountability? >> uh, people deserve answers. and that's why we are doing the best that we can to provide them in real time. and we are also already starting the process of documenting what we are learning in real time to create and inform our after action report. the county again on our side of things, we had
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communication was an exceedingly bad problem. that's why we ran into trouble with evacuation in certain areas. and communication was not centralized. so if you talk to the sheriff's department versus the fire department versus your county supervisor, you were getting different sets of information. we now have a unified communication through our office of emergency management. we also learned that evacuation routes, depending on the path of wind travel, needed to be organized and different ways. we also learned that by bringing in personnel who didn't know some of the areas, you know, folks in these mountain communities in particular, they'll give you a landmark as a place, as a place of reference. they're not giving you cross streets. and so to have people come in who really don't understand the landscape was also complicated. so what we've done is make sure that the people who really know the landscape in these very complicated areas are the ones
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who are on the front lines, working with the community members. and then we call in resources to, you know, hold some of the road closures or do some of the other things that don't require that hands on knowledge and communication with the residents who really understand these areas and then get confused when somebody doesn't know what's going on. so we've deployed resources in different ways from those lessons learned, and we will continue to do so going forward. >> and last question is the water. what is your situation right now as you anticipate these winds to pick up and new fires to erupt? how equipped are you now to put out new fires in a way that you weren't? is it just the help that you were talking about from canada and from other regions inside the u.s. >> so again, on the county side, we have water redundancy. so we have several reservoirs. we have water agencies that we
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can call in water tanks and bring them into the area. we have coordinated this as a lesson learned from the woolsey fire. so in the areas that you saw where l.a. county has been the lead in terms of topanga canyon and in malibu, a lot of those areas are served by, uh, the lead agency is the los angeles county fire department, and we have water redundancies. we have tanks. um, stationed strategically throughout the santa monica mountains area. we are also able to bring in water resources from other from other regions. and we have activated all of those resources in preparation for this event. we know that when the winds reach around 40 miles an hour in a sustained way, or with the big gusts of wind, it grounds our aircraft to so that that adds to the complication that we see on the ground. but in terms of the water supply and all of the areas where we have been the lead agency on the public works side, we have water redundancies that allow us to continue to have a water
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resource. >> it's good to hear that. good luck to you and to everybody there in the next day or two. as the weather is not clearly on your side. lindsey horvath los angeles county supervisor appreciate you being here. >> thank you. >> and coming up, we are going to look at what could potentially be going on with regard to talks for a hostages for ceasefire deal, which officials on all sides continue to say is close. we've heard that before. some insist this time may be different. let's hope so. stay with us. >> this park changed my life. >> superman. crazy. just that simple little thing over the horse. >> chris wanted to change the world. >> people are literally walking because of him. >> super man, the christopher reeve story february 2nd on cnn. >> covid 19. >> i'm not waiting. >> if it's covid. >> paxlovid. paxlovid is an oral treatment for adults with mild to moderate covid 19 and a
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>> lee is now with us live from the white house. mj, we have heard optimism before from the white house. there are lots of differences between then and now, not the least of which is that according to your reporting, the biden white house is working with the incoming trump white house because everybody wants this done in the next few days. >> yeah, dana, you're not wrong that we have been here before where we have sensed momentum, sense, cautious optimism. and having covered this conflict for over a year from the white house, i will say this is the first time that we have sensed this kind of serious optimism from american officials in many, many months. what sources are telling us is that american officials, at this moment in time, do believe that there is a deal in sight. now, of course, nothing is final until it is final. these sources that are involved are always going to be cautiously and emphasis on that word, cautiously optimistic. but there is a real belief that
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a ceasefire and a hostages release deal could get done and could be announced in the coming days. in the very final week of joe biden's presidency. and just to give you a sense of what these negotiations have actually looked like in practice on the ground, we know that president biden's middle east coordinator, brett mcgurk, has been in the region for at least the last week or so, and incoming president donald trump's middle east envoy, steve witkoff, has joined him for the last several days, and the two men have actually been working together and have been closely engaged in trying to hammer out sort of these last minute final obstacles to getting to a deal. they've even had joint phone calls, i'm told, with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu just gives you a really interesting sense of how the two teams are working together in these final days of the biden administration. now, we heard what jake sullivan just told reporters in the white house briefing room. he, of course, has been intimately involved.
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speaking just today with the qatari prime minister and david barnea, of course, the head of the mossad. biden himself, the president, has spoken with the emir of qatar earlier today as well. i think we just cannot underestimate the will, the will and the sheer desire by the incoming president to get this conflict resolved before he takes office. he has said publicly, all hell is going to break loose in the region. if that doesn't get done before january 20th. it's not a coincidence that we are seeing his incoming national security team so closely involved. i mean, given how much this has cost politically, president biden, i think it's not hard to imagine why president trump, as he is coming in, would like to avoid this war continuing to go on as he is getting ready to take office. >> yeah, and the pressure that donald trump is putting on not just israel, but hamas is really, really key in all of these discussions. real quick, this time one week from now, donald trump will be
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president. and that means that joe biden has a one week left, and he is going to make a series of speeches today, is on foreign policy real quick. what do we know about that? >> yeah, i mean, first of all, of course we expect that president biden is going to touch on this issue. the situation in israel and gaza and just the u.s .'s enduring support for israel throughout this time. he's going to, of course, point to the conflict in ukraine, as well as another example of the u.s .'s continuing support for democracies around the world. just keep in mind, he is going to argue that when he came into office four years ago, the world was a different place then and that he really made a promise to the american people and to world leaders across the globe that he was going to restore american leadership. and based on everything we had heard, he is going to argue that he has successfully done that over the last four years. >> dana, thank you so much, mj. thank you for joining inside politics on this very busy monday. cnn news central

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