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>> happening now. >> breaking news. >> we're getting a read on senate support for pete hegseth after president-elect trump's choice to lead the pentagon was grilled about his qualifications, allegations of misconduct and more. >> i'll talk to a democrat and war veteran who took part in the confirmation hearing. senator tammy duckworth joins us live. also this hour, just weeks before the infernos in los angeles, local firefighters publicly warned they were at a breaking point. cnn is looking into concerns that l.a. has one of the most understaffed fire departments in america. plus, a new public health alert in the fire zone urging people to wear masks to protect themselves from ash and smoke. doctor sanjay gupta will show us why the air in parts of southern california is so very dangerous right now. welcome to our viewers here in the united
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states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in the situation room. >> this is cnn breaking news. >> we begin with breaking news. the trump cabinet confirmation hearings kick off with very high tension and very tough questions. one of trump's most controversial picks. pete hegseth up first in the hot seat. as cnn's brian todd reports, democrats zeroed in on the former fox news host and whether he has the experience and the character to lead the pentagon. >> good morning. the hearing will come to order. >> tonight, the man who was perhaps donald trump's most controversial cabinet pick is likely on track for confirmation after his at times contentious hearing before the senate armed services committee. pete hegseth, the former fox news host and army vet who the president elect has tapped to be his defense secretary. faced hours of
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grilling from lawmakers. >> you have admitted that you had sex while you were married to wife two after you just had fathered a child by wife three. >> you've admitted that now, if it had been a sexual assault, that would be disqualifying to be secretary of defense, wouldn't it? >> it was a false claim then, and a false claim now. >> if it had been a sexual assault, that would be disqualifying to be secretary of defense, wouldn't it? >> that was a false claim. >> that exchange relating to a sexual assault investigation of hegseth stemming from a 2017 incident in a monterey, california, hotel room. hegseth denies the allegations and says the encounter was consensual. there were no charges brought, but hegseth lawyers have confirmed he entered into a nondisclosure agreement with his accuser as part of a settlement. democratic senator tim kaine came back at hegseth on allegations of excessive drinking. >> many of your work colleagues have said that you show up for work under the influence of alcohol or drunk. >> i know you've denied that, but you would agree with me, right? that if that was the case, that would be disqualifying for somebody to be secretary of defense.
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>> senator, those are all anonymous false claims. >> and the totality, they're not they're not anonymous. >> the letters on the record here, they're not anonymous. >> the 44 year old characterized those allegations as a, quote, coordinated smear campaign orchestrated in the media. hegseth past comments that women should not be allowed to serve in combat roles became a contentious subject at the hearing. >> what a terrible statement. so please do not deny that you made those statements. >> you have hegseth countered that he would be fine with women in combat if they measured up to the same standards as men. >> you're making these gender quotas to have a certain number of female infantry officers or infantry enlisted, and that disparages those women commanders do not capable of meeting that for the infantry commanders do not have to have a quota for women in the infantry that does not exist. it does not exist. >> republican senator joni ernst, an army veteran and sexual assault survivor, had initially been skeptical of hegseth as a nominee. >> we have had very frank
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conversations, but today there were no fireworks between the two, as other republicans sought to portray the president elect's unorthodox pick as a positive. >> the nominee is unconventional. that may be what makes mr. hegseth an excellent choice to improve this unacceptable status quo. >> during the hearing, pete hegseth repeatedly sidestepped questions from democratic senator elissa slotkin on whether he would ever stand up to president elect trump if trump were to ever give any illegal orders. hegseth said he rejects the premise that trump would ever give any illegal orders. several people close to president elect trump told cnn that trump's team was in good spirits after the hearing, pointing to the warm reception that he got from republican senators on the armed services committee. wolf. >> brian todd reporting. brian, thank you very much. i want to go to capitol hill right now, where cnn's manu raju is getting reaction to the hegseth hearing. manu, what are you hearing from senators? >> it's very clear, wolf, that
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this could go down along party lines. you're hearing democratic senators sharply critical of this nomination is uncertain but unlikely. any democrat will actually vote to confirm pete hegseth, but he does not need democratic support. he needs republican support. he needs to limit defections and the full senate to three that the most in order to get confirmed along party lines. in the senate, majority leader john thune told me that hegseth, quote, acquitted himself well over allegations of sexual assault and misconduct, and he wants to move quickly on this nomination. senator roger wicker, who's the chairman of the senate armed services committee, indicated that he plans to move as early as monday, as early as next week, to have a vote in his committee. wicker, coming out of that hearing, told me that he believes that hegseth is on his way to confirmation. >> this was a tour de force, a takedown, a triumph. i think it was a magnificent display of his knowledge and his ability to communicate, his
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leadership abilities. and i feel very good about this hearing today. >> nothing he said convinces me that he is up to doing this job. >> and in fact, what i'm hearing is him saying all the things he thinks he needs to say in order to get this job. >> now. wicker also told me, wolf, that he expects all republicans on his committee to vote to advance this nomination. that would include senator joni ernst, who has not yet taken a position on this nomination. i'm waiting outside her office. wolf, in case she has something to say about her position. so far she has not commented, but she did have a very friendly exchange with hegseth, which leads many to believe that ultimately she'll fall in line. >> wolf, if she says something, manu, let us know. manu raju up on capitol hill, thank you very much. joining us now, a democrat who questioned pete hegseth today, senator tammy duckworth of illinois, is a key member of the armed services committee. she's also an iraq war veteran. senator, thanks so much for joining us. let's listen to this exchange you had
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with houthis about his knowledge of a key alliance in southeast asia. listen to this. >> senator kaine, or i guess i better use the senator from virginia starts bringing up the fact that. what if you showed up drunk to your job? how many senators have showed up drunk to vote at night? have any of you guys asked them to step down and resign from their job? >> how many nations are in asean, by the way? >> i couldn't tell you the exact amount of nations, but i know we have allies in south korea and japan and in caucus with australia trying to work on submarines with them. >> mr.. >> hegseth, none of those countries are in allies across none of those three countries that you mentioned are in asean. >> all right. so we just heard that exchange. you had, that little exchange you had with hegseth. were you surprised he wasn't able to answer your question? >> i'm flabbergasted that he was not able to answer a very
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simple question, and that especially since he actually mentioned the importance of the indo-pacific in his opening statement. >> but, you know, he also couldn't tell me what are some of the ways that a secretary of defense would lead international negotiations with our allies, either. >> so, i mean, some very basic things that are anybody who wants to be secretary of defense should be able to answer. and for him to not even know a single nation out of the ten in asean speaks very loudly to his lack of qualifications for the job. >> hegseth was also repeatedly pressed on his views about whether he thinks women should be allowed to serve in combat. as an iraq war veteran, yourself and a purple heart recipient, what did you make of his answers? >> well, he kept trying to put women on the stand. >> it was almost like this was a hearing about whether or not women are qualified to serve in combat, as opposed to this was supposed to be a hearing about whether or not pete hegseth is qualified to be secretary of defense. so he did everything that he could to denigrate women.
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>> when, you know, he wouldn't come out and say that women are equally qualified. he talked a lot about not wanting to lower the standards, and he wanted the highest standards, which is ironic since he wants us to lower the standards for what it takes to be secretary of defense so that he can have the job. >> you called hegseth senator wholly unprepared to become the u.s. defense secretary. he looks to be headed towards confirmation. he just needs the republicans to support him. why do you say the country would be at risk with him as defense secretary? >> well, the secretary of defense leads the greatest nation on the face of the earth. >> we are the leader in our alliance all around the world. uh, our our adversaries are watching to see, you know, especially during a time of transition is when we are most vulnerable to attack. and and, frankly, mr. hegseth, uh, is that very weak incoming leader. should he be confirmed? uh, they can exploit his weaknesses. they can exploit
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potentially, uh, his personal weaknesses. the fact of the matter is, we have all of these allegations that have not been completely dealt with, of him having, uh, you know, uh, sexually assaulted women. uh, um, you know, these are the ways that our adversaries could actually blackmail him. he's already had to pay off an accuser, uh, in order to keep a previous job that he had. so, uh, to have a secretary of defense who is potentially blackmailable is something that we certainly do not want, as the united states of america. >> what do you what do you say, senator, to your republican colleagues who appear willing to confirm hegseth despite serious questions about his qualifications and allegations of drunkenness and sexual assault, not only that, i am deeply, deeply disappointed. >> should any of my republican colleagues vote to confirm this man, especially those who are on the armed services committee, because we are a very bipartisan committee. i respect my colleagues, but the
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fact of the matter is, they can't on one hand talk about upholding standards. and then on the other hand, talk about lowering the standards to confirm someone who's not qualified to be secretary of defense. basically, what i would say to my colleagues is stop praying at the altar of maga and let's put the country above self and your personal political ambitions. >> i want to play that clip from republican senator markwayne mullin. during the hearing, we mistakenly played it a little bit earlier, but i want to play it again, listen and watch this. >> senator kaine, or i guess i better use the senator from virginia, starts bringing up the fact that what if you showed up drunk to your job? how many senators have showed up drunk to vote at night? have any of you guys asked them to step down and resign from their job? >> senator, how do you respond to that well, again, the republicans kept trying to put other people on the stand to make them say that they're qualified to do their jobs
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and senator mullin actually said that there were no qualifications necessary to be secretary of defense. >> and i would disagree with him because one of the qualifications to be secretary of defense is actually to be confirmed by the united states senate and to convince the members of the united states senate that he's qualified to do the job. and certainly he did not convince me today that he is capable of doing the job. and that's just like saying, oh, well, somebody else is drunk at their job, so it's okay for me to be drunk at my job. i mean, what kind of an i mean, i would accept that type of argument from my six year old, you know, she says, oh, well, you know, he pushed me, so i pushed him. i certainly don't want that to be the argument for why we confirm somebody to be secretary of defense. >> senator tammy duckworth, thanks so much for joining us. >> thanks for having me on. >> and just ahead, as dangerous fire weather returns to southern california right now, a new cnn analysis finds major staffing shortfalls inside the los angeles city fire department. plus, our own doctor, sanjay gupta, shares
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firefighters. and they warned of this as recently as last month. at that commission meeting. you said it's dire. someone will die. >> it's eerie listening to your words because that's what occurred. so it's. >> let me just take a minute. >> sorry. >> fire! captain freddy escobar. >> you're not supposed to make me cry. >> 35 year veteran of the los angeles fire department. wishes he'd been wrong. and this had not happened for years. the lapd union president warned that a disaster like the palisades fire could happen. and while the cataclysmic weather conditions were historic, escobar also blames something predictable that hurt the fire fight money. >> this is a woefully understaffed fire department. >> we're either going to have a fire department that's going to reflect 2025, or we're
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going to have a fire department that's going to reflect the 1960s. >> a cnn analysis shows that of the ten biggest cities in the nation, los angeles ranks ninth when it comes to the number of firefighters per resident. and it shows millions of dollars in rescue equipment, is just sitting in a lot unused because the fire department can't afford to hire the mechanics to repair it. l.a .'s fire chief said in a recent memo the fire department's staffing levels were half the size of what they should be. >> if we cut one position, if we close one station, if we close one resource, the residents of los angeles are going to pay the ultimate sacrifice and someone will die. >> just last month, fire personnel packed an l.a. fire commission meeting, begging the city to rethink the budget. >> these cuts came at exactly the wrong time, with calls for services at an all time high, and our firefighters are at
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their breaking point. >> we are straining our departments resources beyond the brink, and we cannot continue on this path. >> city councilwoman tracy park was there, too. >> there are large swaths of the city with no emergency response resources available. >> are we going to be having the same conversation next year and the year after? >> we can't. we can't. i think that people are rightly upset. not only that this happened, but there is a sense that we as local leaders needed to do more for them. i feel like i let them down and i've been screaming about it from the day i came in. and so i think there is an obligation of us to not let this be for nothing. i think this has to be the wake
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up call. >> los angeles mayor karen bass said at a recent press conference that the budget didn't have a major impact in battling these fires, mainly because of the unprecedented nature of these fires. the wind and the dry conditions. the union, though, says that there was a city council meeting today. they do detect some strong support now from the mayor as well as other members of the council, and they do believe now that these fires and all of this surrounding los angeles, that things may change. >> wolf. all right. kyung lah reporting. excellent work. thank you very much. let's go to cnn's erin burnett right now. she's out in altadena. erin, right now, you're in the center of that very high wind warning in los angeles. give us the latest. >> yes. so, wolf, itpds, the particularly dangerous winds situation, as they call it. >> obviously not feeling it at this moment, at this location,
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but this is the area that they have that warning out for that they're very concerned about. and, you know, through the day here, the mountains behind me, they've actually in some areas you can actually see the red line of fire retardant where they're trying to establish a defensive line of where they anticipate some of these winds funneling through the time that they're most concerned about is about 3 to 330 in the morning. >> i was just with firefighters who are prepared for that. >> that's what they're being told and warned about in these, these mountains that it could come down through. obviously, parts of altadena not destroyed behind the rose bowl. other areas, so much uncertainty about what will happen, wolf. but that's the fear that they have. and i did spend part of the day with some firefighters who were there during the fire working these 16, 18 hour shifts and are now on call, ready to go. >> they believe tonight for that next round of winds. >> but one of them. engineer chenue, he was out on that night, went to work because there was saw fire in the distance from altadena went to work wolf 16 hour shift
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trying to save people's homes. those firefighters and with kaye young reporting it is interesting their view. they said that there is nothing in the world that they would have been able to do that would have been able to save what they saw, that it was the most overwhelming thing that they experienced in two and a half decades of being firefighters. but engineer you. he lost his home. so when all of that finished, he finds out after 16 hours, his home is gone, completely gone to rubble. he had driven by at one time, but he actually went into it for the first time with us today and talked about what it's like as a firefighter, when every day you see destruction and loss and trauma to actually have it happen to you. today was his first day back at the firehouse, getting ready for that battle tonight. here he is. >> when you see fire every day, right? >> you see destroyed destruction every day. but how is it different now that it's your own life? >> yeah, it's. >> i don't know, it's just. undescribable.
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>> i mean, you know, when we go to a house fire, you kind of detach, you know, and you just try to do what's best for the homeowner, and you put the fire out, and we kind of salvage what we can. >> we pull what we can from them, and hopefully some of their stuff make it. but this is just. just gone. >> you you can't detach. >> yeah. >> no. it's your life. >> yeah. it's not going away. and i mean, i've noticed myself not wanting to do anything, but i also know i have a lot of things to do. >> and yet wolfy's back on the job today for the first time with that trauma. and i will tell you, wolf, we're going to show you something on the show tonight at one of the most small moments of joy i've seen in a long time happened at that house with engineer chenue, and we'll share it coming up. >> wolf, back to you. all right. >> we'll be watching. erin, thank you very much. erin burnett on the scene for us coming up, much more on the fires ravaging southern california as a new blaze
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high, life threatening and destructive, and widespread winds are already here. >> another round of santa ana winds and red flag warnings across already fire weary areas. the extremely critical fire warning, affecting more than 2 million people. >> severe fire weather conditions will continue through tomorrow. the worst winds are predicted today for the late afternoon and into wednesday. >> this is their concern. >> another wildfire sparking overnight monday and burning more than 55 acres by dawn, this time to the west of l.a. in ventura county. firefighters pushing back the flames and stopping forward progress. >> the concern we have now, though, is that we are in a in a red flag situation right now. >> imagine if you're driving down the freeway at 70 miles an hour, you stick your hand out flat and have the wind press against. that is the wind that's happening from ventura to northern l.a.
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heind not only fanning the flames, but potentially grounding the fight from the air over 30mph. >> it is unsafe to fly. it's unsafe for the aircraft, for the personnel, and of course, for the people on the ground. >> fire teams across the region in a ready stance to respond to any new flare ups. >> we are carefully managing our operations to ensure that we can quickly respond to any new fires. >> residents in the palisades fire area and across the fire zone told to be ready at a moment's notice to flee again, as more than 5000 fire personnel work to bring that blaze. now only 17% contained under control. >> we are giving this fire everything we've got. >> and as work continues on the front lines. oh, no. tonight, new videos from residents near the eaton fire in altadena appeared to show the moments just after it sparked up. pedro rojas captured this, showing the huge flames engulfing the base of an electrical tower just a few minutes earlier.
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jeffrey ku and cheryll ku recorded this as she got closer to the house. >> sure enough, it was burning bright and it was the the base of the tower on fire. >> as residents across l.a. wait to learn, they may return to what's left of their homes. >> i cry and get up and keep crying. no more tears left for crying. >> those who have lost everything seek the barest essentials and supplies and empathy as shelters set up across the county fill up and wolf, the outpouring of support here has been so great. in fact, from as far away as indiana, they're actually no longer taking any more clothing donations. they just have too many. and this is just one of four along the street, one on every block. you will see all of these piles of donations for people who have lost everything. now this is just right across the street from a national guard checkpoint. we've seen people coming here
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trying to trying to get back in, checking to see if it's open. it is not. this as firefighters are still on high alert because of this wind event. >> wolf, what a horrible situation. veronica miracle, thank you very much for that report. meanwhile, with many people still missing, search crews are combing the fire wreckage for human remains. cnn's anderson cooper joined a team in hard hit altadena california. anderson. >> wolf. i'm in the altadena neighborhood of los angeles, and this is a regional task force of search and rescue personnel from a number of different departments, but they are all working together, and they are going block by block, street by street, house by house, and literally sifting through the rubble of every destroyed structure, residential and commercial, to try to see if there are any human remains. that's the priority right now for them. in some cases they are. you can see there's a firefighter over
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there who's literally using his hand to to just push through debris. um, they want to be very sensitive on the areas that they're working, but they do cover every inch. there's an abandoned there's a car over there that's completely burned out. they look in the car. if they do, will detect the smell of of anything that may be, um, human. then they bring in some cadaver dogs which are nearby. there are two belgian malinois. uh, that we saw just a few blocks from here a short time ago. looking at another structure. and that structure turned out not to be human remains. it was. it was some rotted, some rotted food, some rotted meat, some chicken. um, but these crews have been working this house just for several minutes. they'll take as much time as they need, and then they will move down the block to the next house, and then the next one and the next one. and this work will go on for days until all of these neighbors, all of these neighborhoods, will have been
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gone through. >> all right. anderson cooper on the scene for us. thank you very much, anderson. officials in los angeles are also urging residents right now to wear proper respiratory masks to reduce exposure to both ash and smoke. our chief medical correspondent, dr. sanjay gupta, is taking a closer look at the health risks and how you can protect yourself. >> wildfire smoke. it's impacting the air all over southern california. >> we had to evacuate. >> we couldn't breathe anymore. >> and we had we had all the filters going in the house. >> it's different than a standard forest fire. it's what firefighters call the wildland urban interface. >> we're not just fighting grass fires. >> these fires are moving from the grasses and the terrains into homes. >> everything is burning. plastics, metals, cars, electronics, carpets, drapes, even certain metals in the soil are becoming unearthed. just about anything you might imagine is going to be inside
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the smoke. aldehyde acid, sulfur dioxide. nitrogen oxides, and then various volatile organic compounds as well. these are chemicals that are found in paints and plastics and cleaning supplies. they are dangerous to breathe in by themselves. people who do breathe it in may not have the classic symptoms of smoke inhalation injury. it may be more burning eyes and scratchy throat, even more vague symptoms like headaches. but eventually they could develop breathing difficulties and even chest pain. that's in part because some of the particles in this smoke are as small as 1/20 the width of a human hair. they get into your bloodstream and can eventually affect just about every organ in the body, and absorbing all of those toxins through your skin, through your respiratory drive, and and realizing that potentially has a long term effect when it comes to cardiac stroke, dementia. and keep in mind, these toxins can also travel fine. >> particulates are airborne
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believes there was enough evidence to win a criminal conviction if his prosecution hadn't been derailed by trump's reelection. cnn's chief legal affairs correspondent, paula reid, is here with me in the situation room. what are the key takeaways from this report? >> well, smith was required by regulation to write this report. >> and the fact that it was even released over objections from the trump team. >> that is one final victory. >> smith was able to eke out over this very successful campaign by the trump lawyers to delay pretty much every aspect of this case. >> so in this report, smith lays out the allegations and the evidence against trump, much of which we already know because there have been multiple indictments, court filings, a committee investigation on the hill and a report. but this was also an opportunity for smith to defend his team and defend their work. he also noted that, of course, he had to dismiss this case because trump was reelected. and you can't prosecute a sitting president. but he was careful to point out that even
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though the constitution prohibits mr. trump's indictment and prosecution while he is in office, that does not turn on the gravity of the crimes, charge the strength of the government's proof or the merits of the prosecution, all of which the office stands fully behind. so he's saying that the evidence was there. he just never had the opportunity to bring his case to trial. and he talked a little in this report about the roadblocks that he faced. the biggest one before the election was the supreme court. that took seven months to answer a critical question about whether trump had immunity to shield him from this case. and he also talked about how once he was reelected, once trump was reelected, that was the ballgame. he knew his case was over. well, this is something we also heard a judge talk about in new york last week. both of these officials talked about the fact that voters saw the allegations in new york. they saw a conviction, and they still sent trump back to the white house. and the reelection is something both of these men considered in terms of how they
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>> i just get excited. >> i'm hanako montgomery in tokyo, and this is cnn. >> we're learning there will be a very prominent no show at president-elect trump's inauguration next week. the former first lady, michelle obama, revealing her plan to skip the event in a break with tradition. i want to bring in cnn's senior white house reporter kevin liptak and cnn's political commentator karen finney. kevin, a lot of us remember that trump didn't attend biden's inauguration four years ago. but what are you learning about the former first lady and her decision to skip the event on monday? >> yeah, and it wasn't just
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donald trump who skipped that inauguration. melania trump skipped it as well. michelle obama's counterpart. so when you talk about inauguration, tradition kind of has to start there. but, you know, i think a lot of people were wondering last week when we didn't see michelle obama sitting in the pews at the funeral for jimmy carter, whether she would actually attend the inauguration this week, both of those events would have brought her face to face with donald trump. they said last week that scheduling conflicts prevented her from attending that event. they're not actually elaborating on why she won't be attending next week's inauguration, which i think probably tells you everything you need to know. you know, michelle obama has made no secret about her feelings towards donald trump. she has actually said that she believes that trump could have put her family's safety at risk with some of his rhetoric, including the birther lies that he was spewing about a decade ago. she also has talked about how difficult it was for her to sit through trump's first inauguration in 2017. you know, we all saw her with kind of a strange look on her face, and she actually said in a podcast a couple of years ago that once
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she got on the aircraft and was flying out of washington, she just broke down in tears from the weight of it all. so i think all of that combined probably makes it not something of a surprise that she won't be at the inauguration next week. but i should mention we did hear from the other former first lady, laura bush and hillary clinton. they will both be at next week's event with their husband. >> interesting, indeed. speaking of that, what she said about that first trump inauguration, karen, i want you to listen to how she reacted to all of that. listen to this. >> there were tears. there was that emotion. >> but then to sit on that stage and watch the the opposite of what we represented on display, there was no diversity. >> there was no color on that stage. there was no reflection of the broader sense of america. >> so what does that tell you, karen, about why she decided to skip the upcoming inauguration? >> well, you know, let me just say good for her, because she kind of made clear at the dnc,
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she was she's doing what she wants to do, right? it was a big deal that she, you know, put her time in on the campaign trail. and i think the most important thing to remember, she, along with president obama immediately after the election, put forward a statement saying, look, this may not have been the outcome we want, but in support of the peaceful transfer of power. so in terms of tradition, unlike melania trump. so in terms of tradition, she is honoring that transition. i think so. look, i think she i obviously haven't talked to her. i don't speak for her. but what kevin said, i mean, he put her children's lives at lives in danger. and as she talked about again at the dnc, he also used them in a way, a very bigoted with racist comments and fear mongering. right. and made them the targets. and i can understand feeling like that's not somebody i want to sit next to. >> that's interesting that sources are telling cnn, karen, that the vice president, kamala harris, has not invited the
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incoming vance family for a tour of the vice presidential residence here in washington. do you think that's a bad look for the vice president? >> you know, look, there is a whole staff in the vice president's residence, just like in the white house that i'm sure is working with. you know, they work with the team going out and the team coming in. so it's not like they're not having access to all the things they need in order to be prepared to move in on inauguration day. i think that's the important thing. >> all right. karen finney and kevin liptak to both of you. thank you very much. coming up, discussions over a ceasefire and hostage deal in the middle east, now said to be in the final stages. >> erin burnett out front next on cnn, honey. >> but the gains are pumping. >> dad, is mommy a finance bro? >> she switched careers to make money for your weddings. >> oh, the asian market is blowing up. hey, who wants shots, huh? >> shots of milk. >> the right money. moves aren't as aggressive as you
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officials here in the u.s. >> and in the middle east say israel and hamas are getting very close to a gaza cease fire. and hostage deal. cnn's mj lee is over at the white house with an update for us. mj, what are you hearing from the biden administration about this potential deal? >> well, as you said, wolf, every sign that we are getting is that a deal is on the cusp of being reached. >> we've heard israeli officials saying that they are ready for a ceasefire. >> hamas has indicated that the talks are in the final stages. qatari officials have said that the talks have been at the closest that they have been in a number of months, and here in the u.s., two officials have been expressing a level of optimism. and i actually just asked president biden here at the white house whether he believes that hamas is about to agree to a ceasefire. he wouldn't verbally comment, but he did flash a fingers crossed sign. take a look. president, is hamas about to say yes to the cease fire? >> mr. president, what do you think? is it going to happen? >> and one thing that is clear,
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wolf, right now, is that all of the parties do appear to be in agreement that this deal is for hamas to say yes to that, that final yes. and green light has to come from hamas. and as we have been reporting over the last 24 to 48 hours, we know that the biden team and the trump team have actually been working quite closely together to try to get this deal across the finish line, including, of course, the current and the incoming middle east coordinators at the white house working together to hammer out details and even having joint conversations and joint calls. that level of engagement from the incoming trump team really is yet another reminder of how much the incoming president does not want to inherit this conflict when he is sworn in next week, wolf. >> let's hope there is a deal in those hostages can come back to israel. mj lee at the white house, thank you very, very much. and to our viewers, thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in the situation room. erin burnett outfront starts right now.
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