that this has less likely to fall apart than that agreement was? >> well, the agreement on november was to build the momentum in order to lead for a longer term agreement, which we have today. but unfortunately, uh, the agreement in november was very transactional. so it was like a day by day. but this agreement has a clear mechanism for the first 42 days, and there is a clear mechanism to negotiate phase two and three. and all the details of the agreements will be published in the next couple of days. once the details are finalized. thank you. suhail arab, al jazeera, al arabiya. al-wazir adnan al jazeera. >> my first question will this agreement will reach a permanent ceasefire? will the guarantees? are the guarantees strong enough so that

has qatar contributed this time? and how will the role of qatar be like during the implementation of this agreement? i have got lost with all these questions. you should ask me only one question. please go back to the first question. will this agreement this time be lead to a permanent ceasefire? yes. >> that's enough. yes. >> let me wait and ask. ask the second question later as to the implementation of this agreement. first. it depends on the both sides that they really implement it in good faith. and that's what we continue to monitor. >> this press conference from the qatari prime minister out of doha, we are told that president biden will make a statement momentarily from the

white house. this is a new statement, of course, ahead of the planned speech, prime time speech that he was already going to give and still will give later tonight. jeff zeleny, you've covered joe biden for a very long time. he has been so focused on issues in and around the middle east for more than half a century, did not want this to be part of his legacy. when it came to october 7th, but is going to be very happy to have this phase one of a deal. part of his legacy. at the 11th hour, without question, we'll be speaking from the the cross hall of the white house. >> there, of course, a spot that is also so heavy with history. but we got a statement from him just a few moments ago, and he said, i laid out the precise contours of this plan. on may 31st, after which it was endorsed unanimously by the un security council. so making the point that this has long been underway. long. that would

be before he dropped out of the presidential race. that would before vice president harris lost the presidential race. so making clear that his administration has been working on this, but goes on to say just about the welcome news and the somber moment that this is. but you're right. for joe biden, longtime chairman of the foreign relations committee, the vice president, the president. i'm thinking back to the moment where he flew to israel in the hours after october 7th and hugged netanyahu in a controversial political move. at least he clearly wanted to see this through. and this is happening with just five days left in his presidency and indeed his public life. >> yeah, and it is true they did lay out publicly, alex, the contours even more than the contours of this deal that seems to be coming to fruition. finally, that was the public, uh, sort of exposure to this deal. and that was done because it wasn't getting as far as he wanted privately. that is the president you see there with the vice president and the

secretary of state. let's listen. >> good afternoon. it's a very good afternoon, because at long last i can announce a cease fire. and a hostage deal has been reached between israel and hamas for more than 15 months of conflict that began with hezbollah's brutal massacre on october the 7th. more than 15 months of terror for the hostages, their families, the israeli people, more than 15 months of suffering by the innocent people of gaza fighting in gaza will stop. and soon the hostages will return home to their families. the elements of this deal are what i laid out in detail this past may, which was embraced by countries around the world and endorsed overwhelmingly by the un security council. the deal is structured in three

phases. phase one will last six weeks. it includes a full and complete cease fire, the withdrawal of israeli forces from all the populated areas of gaza, and and the release of a number of hostages held by hamas, including women and elderly and the wounded. and i'm proud to say americans will be part of that hostage release on phase one as well. and the vice president and i cannot wait to welcome them home. in exchange, israel released hundreds of palestinian prisoners. and during phase one, the palestinians can also return to their neighborhoods in all the areas of gaza and the surge humanitarian assistance into gaza will begin. and the innocent people can have a greater access to these vital supplies. you know, during the next six weeks, israel will negotiate the necessary arrangements to get phase two, which is a permanent end of the war. let me say it again. a

permanent end of the war. there are a number of details to negotiate, to move from phase one to phase two. but the plan says if negotiations take longer than six weeks, the cease fire will continue as long as the negotiations continue. i've spoken to the mayor of kuwait and the president of egypt, and we have pledged to make sure the negotiations will keep moving forward for as long as it takes. then, when phase two begins, there will be an exchange of for release of the remaining living hostages, including male soldiers and all remaining israeli forces will be withdrawn from gaza and the temporary cease fire will become permanent. and finally, phase three, any final remains of hostages who have been killed will be returned to their families, and a major reconstruction plan for gaza

will begin. this this is the cease fire agreement i introduced last spring. today, hamas and israel have agreed to that cease fire agreement. and the whole ending the war. you know, those of you who have followed the negotiations can attest the road to this deal has not been easy. i've worked in foreign policy for decades. this is one of the toughest negotiations i've ever experienced, and we reached this point because because of the pressure that israel built on hamas, backed by the united states, hamas's longtime leader, sinwar, was killed. hamas's strongest supporter, iran, launched attacks on israel, and those attacks failed. after my administration organized a coalition of nations to stop them. and after i ordered the u.s. ships and planes to come to israel's defense, we also shape israel's strong and calibrated response, destroying iran's air

defenses. but avoiding an escalatory cycle of an all out war. the united states also organized a coalition of 20 countries to stand up to attacks by the houthis, including their missile attacks in israel. then hezbollah, another hamas's weak battlefield, and its leadership was destroyed. with our d ter t finally elected a new president who's not who's not beholden to hezbollah. and he began a new chapter for the lebanese people. all told, these developments in the region, which the united states helped to shape, changed the equation. and so now the terror network that once protected and sustained hamas is far weaker, iran is weaker, iran is weaker than it's been in decades.

hezbollah is badly degraded. and after more than 15 months of war, hamas's senior leaders are dead. thousands of hamas fighters are dead, and the military formations have been destroyed. with nowhere to turn, hamas finally agreed to releasing hostages. you know, there was no other way for this war to end than with the hostage deal. and i'm deeply satisfied this day has come. finally come for the sake of the people of israel and the families waiting in agony, and for the sake of the innocent people in gaza who suffered unimaginable devastation because of the war. the palestinian people have gone through hell. too many innocent people have died. too many communities have been destroyed. and this deal, the people of gaza can finally recover and rebuild. they can look to a future

without hamas in power. you know, the bible says blessed are the peacemakers. many peacemakers helped make this deal happen, including an extraordinary team of american diplomats who have worked nonstop for months to get this done. secretary blinken led the effort. secretary jake sullivan, is it not? national security adviser jake sullivan, bill burns, jon finer brett mcgurk, amos hochstein and the vice president worked relentlessly as we work to deliver this deal. i'd also note that this deal was developed and negotiated under my administration, but its terms will be implemented for the most part by the next administration. in these past few days, we've been speaking as one team. this has been a time of real turmoil in the middle east. but as i prepare to leave office, our friends are strong, our enemies are

weak, and there's a genuine opportunities for a new future in lebanon. there's an opportunity for a future free from the grip of hezbollah in syria, a future free from the tyranny of assad. and for the palestinian people, a credible, a credible pathway to a state of their own. and for the region, a future of normalization and integration of israel and all its arab neighbors, including saudi arabia. at the g20 in delhi in september 23rd, i rallied key countries behind a vision of an economic corridor from india across the middle east to europe. that vision can now become a reality. there are risks as well, including i.s.i.s. and iran. even in a badly weakened state. but but we're handing off to the next team a real opportunity for a better future for the middle east. i hope they will take it. let me close with this. my my

friend for years in the united states senate, former senator george mitchell, who did so much to forge peace in northern ireland, once said about diplomacy. he said it is a 700 days of failure and one day of success. 700 days of failure and one day of success. well, we've had many difficult days since hamas began its terrible war. we've encountered roadblocks and setbacks, but we've not given up. and now, after more than 14 400 days of struggle, a day of success has arrived. god bless all the hostages and their families, and may god protect the troops of all those who work for peace. this is a president. >> the cheryll ku gaza. >> now, as i was saying, the implementation of this deal will be in the hands of the next administration. and basically they will shape the future of gaza. so how do you see this future and also how much credit do you give to the trump team for this deal? trump

is already taking credit for it. >> well, you know, this is the exact framework of the deal i proposed back in may. exact. and and we got the world to endorse it. secondly, it's america's support for israel that help them badly weaken hamas and its backers. and create the conditions for this deal. and thirdly, i knew this deal would have to be implemented by the next team. so i told my team to coordinate closely with the incoming team to make sure we're all speaking with the same voice, because that's what american presidents do. mr. president, thank you. >> thank you. you will hold me in the. >> how many americans will be released when the hostages are being released? >> all the exact detail of how many people are being held, how many bodies will be returned,

nonetheless, will all be forthcoming. all of it. all of it. thank you. all confident that this deal will hold. i'm confident. thank you. folks. >> credit for this, mr. president. you or trump? >> is that a joke? oh thank you. >> thank you. >> an extraordinary moment with president biden flanked by kamala harris, his vice president. and, of course, the democratic nominee for president and his secretary of state, tony blinken, talking about something that they have been working on for months. and he is absolutely right. talking about the fact that the contours of this even more of the details of this deal is what his administration put forward in may. what, 6 or 7 months ago? and they have been

trying to get done for all of that time with lots of fits and starts, for lots of different reasons. and you could see almost the stone faced tony blinken, who has been a part of the biden orbit for decades. uh, crack a little bit of a smile when the president said that diplomacy is 700 days of failure and one day of success, because tony blinken has been living it, along with so many others. i want to bring in christiane amanpour. christiane, you were with the secretary of state today just a few hours ago inside the state department, as the final i's were dotted and the t's were crossed on this very long shot deal. >> indeed. dana, just timing is everything. and we did our interview. his last tv interview, before he hands over to his successor. and this administration changes as this was happening. and so in the

interview, he couldn't actually say it's done, but he was absolutely sure that it was being done and he was able to roll out the details, some of which have been fleshed out by president biden right now. before that, by the key mediator, the prime minister of qatar, who explained, you know, day by day and phase by phase, how this would go. interestingly, i also asked him about connection as president biden just talked about with the incoming administration. and blinken told me that he had had, over the last days and weeks, very good. in his words, conversations with his successor, should he be confirmed, his, you know, confirmation is happening today. senator marco rubio, that they were very constructive and very good on this and other foreign policy issues, including ukraine and other such things. so there's no doubt that this administration knew that to get this over the line, they would have to accept that the actual major implementation would be by the incoming trump administration. and in

blinken's words, and i think biden's words, they have delivered to the trump administration leverage which the trump administration can now choose to use or not to use either, in this case in the middle east or in the ukraine. uh, russia conflict, but certainly, certainly even blinken admitted that, you know, the arrival of donald trump focused a lot more minds at this particular juncture, but that this was the deal that the biden administration had written practically to the word back in may. and, of course, that begs the question of how many more lives could have been served and saved had that gone into implementation then. but here we are at this point, donna. >> absolutely. thank you so much, christiane. it really is remarkable. and, frank, i do want to bring you in. thank you for being so patient. as we were watching multiple press conferences, including and especially from the president of the united states, he talked

about, as christiane said, the fact that this is and was his plan. fact check. true. he also talked about the fact that he understood that it will be donald trump and his administration that will have to implement and carry out the multi-phase plan. fact check. true. and he said that is why our teams worked together and spoke as one team, as a diplomat. what does that tell you? >> well, i think it was very positive that they worked so closely together on this deal. i think obviously the biden administration deserves the lion's share of the credit for their persistence over the last 6 or 7 months. but i think trump did play a constructive role, particularly with the israelis, in terms of getting them to make the tough compromises that would be necessary to get this deal done. so biden can say when he left that he created a pathway to a sustainable end to the war in gaza. but just to be clear, this is not like the cease fire deal in lebanon that is in its

own right, intended to end this war. it's really a 42 day agreement and the release of about a third of the hostages and a partial withdrawal of israel from gaza. what is not been resolved. and you heard this in the qatari news conference, was whether we're ever going to make that transition from phase one to phase two. and the netanyahu has said very clearly, i am not going to allow hamas to remain in power. the israeli foreign minister said. hamas knows this is only a temporary cease fire, so it will really be down to the trump administration to create the conditions where the israelis feel like they can move from phase one to phase two and not run the risk of having hamas sort of regenerate. so, yeah, lots of work remains to be done. >> yeah. no question. but you can't get to phase two without getting to phase one first. and clearly the the fact that they're they're already putting that pressure on even before we've seen actually seen in black and white what it says the deal says. and also more importantly, the hostages come

home. the airstrikes and in gaza. thank you so much for sticking around with us. appreciate it. and back here, jeff zeleny just kind of back to the biden moment. the sentence, i think i heard you go and i sort of wrote it down as well. at the end of the statement, he took a couple of questions, and one of the questions was about who gets credit for this. and he said, without saying explicitly, that it was his deal. and, you know, he should get credit, but so should the trump administration, which is why he said teams work together. but then he said explicitly, we were speaking with the same voice, quote, because that's what american presidents do. >> without question, those five words certainly hang very heavy, as we really transition from the biden administration to the trump administration. and thinking back to four years ago, the courtesy that he was not afforded of a complete

peaceful transition that really started his administration in a much slower way. but then as he turned to walk away, a reporter asked, who gets credit? biden or trump? he said, is that a joke? so clearly he believes that he gets the lion's share of the credit here. i'm not sure that i think we can have this discussion another day. i agree, and the question also is how much of this is implemented? but there is no doubt, i think, that joe biden, president biden, former vice president biden, former senate foreign relations committee chairman joe biden this was something he also said. this road to this deal has not been easy. i worked in foreign policy for decades. it's one of the most difficult negotiations i've been part of. so this now will be a piece of his legacy, too. does it override everything else? of course not. but it is one chapter of it. and he said, i told my team to work with their team. so that is something that, you know, this is much more important than or bigger than domestic politics. however, if this had happened in may, would domestic politics

have changed? those are questions that will be lost to history. but there is no doubt that this impacted the presidential election in many ways. look at michigan. look at younger voters, look at others. so that, of course, is a time for another discussion. for another time, i think. but i do think that's what american presidents do with so, so telling. >> it's still intriguing. you pointed out earlier that he was noting in april that this was the deal. right. laying down that marker and then saying in this speech we developed and negotiated, this was developed and negotiated by my administration, but it will be implemented by the next. he is laying down very specific markers here about how this went through. it's not going to be a day of just saying, well, donald trump was coming and everybody just started to scurry and all of a sudden a deal was done. he came out and tried to say, no, look, a lot of work has come in to this point. and there was cooperation at the end. but he wants this to be part of his legacy. specifically this window. >> and the only way it will be

part of his legacy in the way that he hopes it is, is if it is implemented in a way that works out and that is really, really key in the short term with this first phase and that donald trump and his administration do push israel and hamas to continue with the next phases. i do want to get to m.j. lee, who is at the white house for us. and m.j., you and our colleagues have had some great new reporting that hopefully will be on cnn.com soon. if it's not already there. about the late nights, past messages and final demands inside the final intensive push for the ceasefire and hostages deal. talking about what went on, the drama that went on in order to get to what we're seeing right now. >> yeah. and, you know, we definitely remember this from the first ceasefire that we saw more than a year

ago, just how incredibly complicated, fragile and fraught these negotiations were the last time around two, when it really came down to the wire, one of the biggest reasons being that it is very difficult to negotiate with hamas officials, particularly when yahya sinwar was alive. you know, he was the leader of the group that was in hiding under tunnels, presumably in gaza for all of the negotiations. and one senior administration official talking to reporters, just sort of laid out and helped paint a picture of how this time around to the last couple of days, as this really got down to the wire, how complicated things were and how fragile these talks were towards the end. essentially, we had representatives, as we know, gathered in doha, representatives from the u.s., egypt, israel and qatar on one floor of a building in doha. they were on the second floor. and then just downstairs were

the hamas officials and the entire time messages were basically being exchanged as the two groups were sitting in different rooms on separate floors to try to get this across the finish line. one of the evenings, this official said, basically stretched on into the middle of the night at 3 a.m. or so and at the very end. and, you know, this again, shouldn't be surprising if you remember how these talks went the last time around. hamas ended up coming in with some last minute demands. we had reported this earlier in the in the day to that, a u.s. official said there were some last minute issues that had come up that had to be addressed, and that led the other parties to basically being forced to stand firm and reject, presumably, some of those demands that were being made by hamas. and then finally, this ended up getting across the finish line. one other sort of big picture, i think, sticking point that is clear. again, we've heard this before. was that in the months

prior, hamas had sort of refused to be clear about which hostages they had, how many hostages they had. and then as we got closer towiing to share information about which hostages would actually be released. that obviously ended up getting resolved, because we now know how many hostages are going to be released in the first six week phase of this ceasefire. and very importantly, president biden himself confirmed in his remarks that americans, as we reported, are going to be among those hostages that are initially released. now, he wouldn't get into the details. he certainly didn't say which americans are going to come out. he didn't say exactly how many. he didn't say whether all of them or some of them would be alive or dead. we do know that four of the seven americans have already been declared dead. so we are basically hoping that the three remaining that were not declared dead will ultimately

come out of this alive. and i think it is just worth stressing. it's it seems like an obvious point, but for this president, this is one of the reasons that this was such an important priority for him. he has consistently talked about how this is one of the most important duties. when you are the president of the united states, is to secure the release and return of any wrongfully detained americans abroad. and now he is hoping that any day now, we will be able to celebrate as a country and this administration, the release of these americans, at least some of them from gaza, after so many painful months for their families. >> that's right. three american hostages held by hamas are presumed to be alive. but doesn't appear as though all of them, of the three. edan alexander, egede, darian and keith siegel will be coming in the first phase. edan, for example, is is young. he's a

young man and is in the idf, so that is unlikely in the first phase. thank you so much, mj. i want to go to the region to jeremy diamond. jeremy, i just got some reporting from our colleagues over there and they're talking about the sense and the feeling right now inside hostages square. we heard a lot about it from bianna golodryga earlier in the afternoon. but what they are describing is a moment of relief, but not celebration, because only a handful of hostages are due to return at first. and those who do come back are in unknown condition. >> yeah, that's right dana, and there will still be many moments of uncertainty as this ceasefire is implemented. as those hostages begin to emerge from the gaza strip. the last time we had that week long ceasefire at the end of november of 2023, it was only the day of sometimes a few

hours before that, the families learned that their loved ones were on the list for that day. this time, in addition to that uncertainty, we also have the uncertainty of which of these hostages are going to emerge alive and which of them will be coming back to israel in body bags. our understanding is that not all of the 33 hostages are set to be released will be living hostages, although the majority are indeed expected to be, as the president laid out there. this will be a six week ceasefire that has been agreed to. that is all that has been officially agreed to here. but as the president said, and as clearly his hope is, is that this ceasefire can be extended and can ultimately lead to an end of the war. he pointed out the fact that this six week ceasefire will continue beyond that, as long as the parties israel and hamas remain at the negotiating table in order to try and reach the second phase of this agreement, which would ultimately result in the total withdrawal of israeli troops, the end of the war, and the

release of all of the hostages remaining. but that is far from a certainty. and time and again, the israeli prime minister has said that he will not end this war until hamas is entirely defeated. i have spoken with aides of his who have suggested that israel will return to fighting. perhaps after this initial phase of the deal takes place. and i also want to highlight, you know, the other side of the coin of what president biden was saying there with the fact that this is a based on a framework that he announced in late may, he was talking about it in the sense of making clear that this was his deal. but what that also highlights is the eight months that have happened that have gone on since then, nearly eight months since then, during which time we know that approximately 9000 more palestinians have been killed during that time. according to the palestinian ministry of health and several israeli hostages have also been killed during that timeframe. notably, the american hostage hersh

goldberg polin, who was executed by hamas as israeli forces closed in to try and rescue them. and so it does bear a focusing on the the toll that those nearly eight months have taken. in particular, when you think about the fact that these parties had a framework agreement back in july, and we know that there is blame to go around for both hamas as well as for israel. the president certainly focused on the blame that hamas has for that point. but if you speak to many of the hostage families, as i did over the summer, many of them also believe that the israeli prime minister was dragging his feet on this deal. we know that he, you know, effectively rejected the deal in september because he did not want to withdraw from that philadelphi corridor. hamas has since conceded that point in this current agreement, but there's no question that that will also be something to look at. those nearly eight months that went by since the president put this framework on the table and the true human toll that that those months have taken. >> and, jeremy, i do want to ask about

the hostages who are there. 94 remaining hostages, two are children. we know that nine month old, nine month old kfir and four year old ariel bibas were among those taken from their their home in israel and taken hostage inside gaza. what do we know about their condition and whether or not they will be among those released? >> yeah. dana hamas claimed many months ago that kfir, ariel and their mother shiri were killed inside of the gaza strip by an airstrikes. the israeli government has yet to be able to confirm that information. hamas never released any evidence, any proof of that claim. and, you know, i've spoken with the bibas family, several members of that family, including most recently last night, i spoke

with the uncle of yarden bibas, the father of those of those young babies, and he told me that the family is still holding out some hope that that perhaps they are alive. you know, we do. this agreement has talked about women getting out, children getting out. it has talked about men over the age of 50. kfir and ariel bibas, if indeed they are still alive and if their bodies are being held, they are the only children still being held hostage by hamas at this hour. and so we do expect that they will be emerging from the gaza strip, alive or dead. is is the uncertainty here? and and we don't know exactly when their families will know which one of those outcomes it will be. but we do expect that they will likely have some kind of conclusion, some kind of closure to this. you know, unending and incredibly agonizing tale, one that captured the attention of millions of people around the

world as we saw the images of of them being taken hostage on october 7th. but again, this speaks to the roller coaster of emotions that these families have been through, and that we expect they will continue to go through in the weeks ahead. >> it's just barbaric. there's no other way to put it. thank you so much for that. your incredible reporting as always, jeremy, don't go anywhere. we have a lot more reporting coming in on this historic phase one of a deal to end the bombardment in gaza and to bring 33 hostages being held there since hamas terror attack in october of 2023. home. we'll be right back. >> cnn news central, brought to you by right at home in-home care and assistance. let's start talking about living over the years. >> you've talked to her about boys. you've talked to her

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law and sister in law's husband were murdered on that day. the couple's daughter, four year old abigail, was taken hostage for 51 days but was released in that only other time that that hostages were released back in november of last year. i want to bring in ella now. i'm sure your feelings right now are quite complicated. >> yes. of course it's it's like a roller coaster here in israel. all our emotions are like mixing because it's such a happy day and such an excitement announcement. and in with that, we are so anxious to the hostages that are still there and will stay there until the next phase of the deal will start. and i even cannot be happy until they really come

back, you know, because they say they're going to come back. but until i don't see them in my bear eyes, in my eyes, i cannot believe they're here. so it's such an emotional and so complicated feelings altogether for all of us here in israel. everybody is happy and sad at the same moment because we've been through a very, very hard time, very hard war. and, we're just waiting. we're exhausted and we're just waiting for it to end. and the hostages will come back home. >> ella, i understand that when it comes to your niece, abigail, who's just a little girl four years old, uh, she was held for 51 days, which is a very long time for anybody, but certainly somebody who's only been alive for four years. >> without giving too much detail, because you want to

protect her privacy, just generally speaking, how is she doing? >> well, abigail is an amazing little girl, and i love her so much. really? she was kidnaped when she was three, and she was released when she was four. so i believe everyone that is watching us now can just try to imagine what it is like. if you go with your child to the beach or to the mall and you and you don't see them like you, lose them for like five minutes or for two minutes. it's like a two minutes of total horror. you are afraid somebody kidnaped him or he is injured or he can't find you. so just imagine what it is like to go like that for 51 days when this little girl, this orphan, because her parents were murdered, was in the hands of

hamas, is a hostage for 51 days. and i think it's like the most, biggest nightmare a person can go through. it's like, um, if it could express how it feels, it feels like hell. this is hell. to have a hostage in gaza. and we went through my family, went through this hell for 51 days, and we got her back. but the other families, they are going through this for 40, 461 days. it's like more a year and almost a year and a half and i don't have any words to explain that. >> yeah. no, i nobody nobody does or should. but you did have that experience after 51 days of understanding as a close family member of somebody very, very

young. uh, the experience of welcoming her back and all of the physical and emotional toll that it took on on her. um, we don't know if there will be small children who are alive who will be released. we are still praying that that is the case. but regardless of their age, there will be people who are alive who will be released after being held in, uh, in tunnels in, you know, god knows where with, with little with little food and, and and just the most horrid of conditions. so my question is, do you have advice for the family of those who are coming back and how to deal with that, when that hopefully will happen starting on sunday? >> well, we don't know how the hostages will return. we know that

they're being severely tortured and they are in tunnels, and they are kept in cages. most of them were kept in cages like animals. so i think what the families need to do is just to give them time with no press and no media and no politics that will come to take a picture. i think there will be a i expect that the hostages that come back will be totally overwhelmed. i don't know if they can speak, if they can talk, if they will recognize their beloved ones. i don't know because we know about severely brutal torture that they've been through. so i think the only advice is to take a deep breath and to give them a lot of love also to the families and to give them the time just to be together in a

very peace and protected place with no people, because we don't know if hostages were in tunnels, we don't know if they can see or if they can hear, or if it's too much light for them, or the flashes of cameras. so we have to take care of really, really with a lot of love and tender. also for the families, because it's going to be a long recovery. it's not going to be a recovery of a few days. it's a big, big trauma. and even, you know, it's in israel. it's going to be a trauma for generations, just like the holocaust. so i think it's going to take a long time to recover. but they have to come back that we can start this recovery. and when they come back, we can start to recover israel, because israel is very wounded right now. everybody is sad. we cannot be

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cnn. >> back to our breaking news this hour. after more than 15 months of fighting and bloodshed in gaza, of course. 15 months after is israel was attacked by hamas terrorists on october 7th and hostages were taken. we do see an agreement for a ceasefire and hostage deal. president biden announced the agreement, and he says that u.s. hostages will be part of phase one. american citizens. and that is what he means by that now. qatar's prime minister says the deal will go into effect on sunday. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu's office says there are several unresolved points, but remains sure that they will be settled. joining me now to discuss all of this is retired army general spider marks and cnn national security analyst beth saner. general marks, i want to start with you just on the mechanics of this. what needs to be in place to make

sure that this agreement is implemented starting on sunday? >> well, thanks, janet. great to be with you and beth. i mean, you got a real pro sitting on your shoulder there. >> so ask her the tough questions. um, look, we should all celebrate this deal. first, let me take a step back. i mean, this is absolutely great news. um, and good on president biden and his team sprinting through the tape. you know, 72 to 96 hours before the inauguration of a new administration, you get this accomplished. so good on good on that team. but they also need to be very sober about their view of this, because execution will occur with the subsequent administration. we'll see how this thing turns out. the cease fire is incredibly difficult. of all the military operations, the disentanglement of combatants is incredibly hard to achieve. look, there's no striped referee that walks out there with a hat and blows a whistle and says, everybody go to your

to your sides. break it up, stop fighting. and you know i'll throw the flag and call penalties. no, this is the the only way something like this takes place is leadership at both levels. i'm not sanguine what type of leadership hamas has, but i do know in the idf intimately, they've got incredible rules of engagement. they will ensure that their soldiers are protected during this period of, as i've described, this disentanglement that takes place. you just don't put vehicles in reverse and start to back up. weapons are still locked and loaded. targets are identified. engagement criteria still exist, and there has to be a level of trust at that individual soldier level with somebody. you've been trying to kill this guy over the course of the last 400 days, and now you're trying to ask them to break apart. it happens. it can work, but it really takes immense leadership and oversight in order to achieve that. and it won't be an immediate withdrawal. look,

we're going to different sides are going to go to their corners. but also bear in mind that yahya sinwar is gone. he got killed. his brother now is resurrecting hamas and an attempt to make it a fighting force. look, they've had some pretty good recruitment. but these are not fighters. these are passionate new recruits. but this is a very dangerous, dangerous time. and also the ieds, the unexploded ordinance that exists within gaza, now become weapon systems. if it's not monitored in some way. so that's just kind of a tip of the iceberg view of how difficult this really is. >> so that's from a military point of view. beth sanner you spent your career in intelligence, and what is it that you're looking at as this becomes right? spider makes all these great points about just logistically how all this will play out. and, you know, one part of the deal is 600 trucks of aid are supposed to be going in a day. and we know how those things have gone awry and caused conflict.

>> we know dozens of idf have been killed during this period. so politically, we also have to add the level of difficulty. this is why this agreement doesn't start the second phase of negotiation until day 16, so they won't start negotiating the end of the war. they've put that off to try to get those 33 hostages out. you know, we're only going to get a handful on that first day. and remember the nail biting we all did last time and how it fell apart. so, you know, we're going to have the situation where we're where we have a lot of space for lots of things to happen from what happens if a soldier gets killed, what happens if that hostage bus doesn't make it, or the aid trucks? but what happens to israel domestically? because we know right now in the streets of israel, we have

right wing protesters who are against this deal, blocking a highway. and we have a minister who is threatening to quit. and we have ten likud who are threatening netanyahu as well, members of member of his his own political party. right. a lot going on. >> thank you for that insight. general marks. thank you as well. we are going to have to sneak in a very quick break, as we do want to show you live pictures from hostage square in tel aviv. families there celebrating, praying that their loved ones could be among those released as part of this deal. we've been talking about. don't go away. >> this part changed my life. >> superman. crazy. just that simple little thing over the horse. >> chris wanted to change the world. >> people are literally walking because of him. >> superman. the christopher reeve story. february 2nd on cnn. >> whoa! how'd you get your teeth so white?

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celebration are happening right now on the streets of both israel and gaza. a little bit more subdued, as you see there in israel. as for president biden, he applauded his team for reaching the agreement after more than six months of work on this very framework. he also credited negotiators for donald trump, who is five days from taking office. >> this deal was developed and negotiated under my administration, but its terms will be implemented for the most part by the next administration. in these past few days, we've been speaking as one team. >> we're covering this from all angles, all across the globe. i want to start here in washington at the white house. m.j. lee is there. m.j., you have some new reporting on which american hostages will be released. what are you hearing? >> yeah, dana, obviously one of

the biggest reasons this deal was so important for president biden to try to get done before he left office was because of the promise he had made to bring home the american hostages who have been held in gaza. and he did confirm in those remarks earlier that americans would be among those released in the first phase of this six week cease fire. though he didn't go into details. my colleague jenny handler and i can now report that two american hostages, they are keith siegel and sagi dekel. hen they are going to be on the list. they are on the list of the initial wave of hostages that will be released as a part of this six week phase ceasefire. now, as a reminder, seven americans, we are looking at their faces on the screen right now. seven american hostages are in gaza. four of them have been declared dead, and keith and ziggy are among those three who have been

presumed alive this entire time. so, dana, i know you have covered these american hostages and their families more closely than almost anybody else. it is going to be a real moment of celebration, certainly for these families who finally will hopefully get to be reunited with their loved ones. it is also going to be a very, very tough moment for some of the other american families and the israeli families, of course, as well. whose whose loved ones are not going to be returned. i know you spoke with ruby henn earlier in the day. the father of it. he is not believed to be on this list, for example. so again, i think we just should be measured as we are talking about the jubilation and the sense of celebration that this deal has finally come together. there is so much about this that is going to be so tough still for so many people who have just been waiting in anguish for so many months now.

just quickly, politically speaking, i should just note, you know, this has been an interesting moment of two presidents, the current president, joe biden, and the incoming president, donald trump, both taking credit for this deal coming together. president trump actually made his his remarks on truth social taking credit for this deal coming together, saying, essentially this only happened because i am coming into office before we even heard directly from president biden. but all of this underscores that this agreement coming together, at least on the u.s. side, has involved biden officials working alongside trump officials to try to hammer out these final details. so a really sort of remarkable moment in the last final week of president biden being in office. he only has five days left. being able to make this speech and deliver the good news, this was a speech and news that president biden had hoped to deliver for well over

a year now, and he finally got to deliver that news to the american people. yeah. >> and and i want to turn to a negotiator in one second. but, m.j., you, since i don't want to lose sight of the news that you just broke, which is that there are two americans who have been held hostage by hamas for 460 days, who are, according to your reporting, expected to be released. they are. and you're looking at the screen there. i'll tell you who they are. keith siegel who is the first? he is 60 years old. he's a north carolina native. he is expected, according to mj's reporting, to come out in this first phase and then all the way on the right side. natasha chen, 35 years old, is also expected to be. i just want to also, if you saw there aidan alexander, we have spoken to his family many, many times. he is in the idf and is believed to be alive

as you see there. his parents have been, as all of these hostage families have, particularly the americans, very much in touch with the administration and have known that if this would be implemented, which, again, as the president said, was ready to go since may, that their son aidan, who is now 20, would not be part of phase one, but they hope will eventually be out as part of phase two. thank you so much, mj. really appreciate your your reporting. i do want to turn now to talk more about the diplomacy that led to this with the former hostage negotiator, gershon baskin, who has worked with hamas in the past. thank you so much for being here. um, just your overall takeaway in knowing how difficult this is and seeing how this is playing out right

now. >> i just i want to say that i never worked with hamas, but i did negotiate with hamas, both unofficially and officially. just to clear that up, i don't work with hamas. um, this is a deal that was on the table since may, and it was done now because donald trump is coming into the white house, and he told his buddy, prime minister netanyahu, to get it done to end the war. hamas was reluctant to enter into this deal. that was on the table since may, because there was no commitment from israel to end the war. in phase one. i believe that that commitment has been given by president trump to the qataris and the egyptians, who gave it to hamas. otherwise, there's no explanation why hamas agreed to the deal. entering into the first 42 days without a guarantee that the war would end in the second 42 day period. now it's a deal that has to be done, and it's a bad deal, but it's better than no deal. it's a bad deal because it will take months to implement. it won't bring all the hostages home immediately.

there are many opportunities for this to be derailed. and nonetheless, this is what's on the table and this is what we have to deal with. it also is lacking any kind of political determination of the future of gaza. on the day after this war, and what needs to be done politically is ensuring that hamas doesn't govern gaza anymore. this is certainly the will of the palestinian people in gaza, because they know that there will be no reconstruction there if hamas remains in power. no one will put a single dollar into gaza if hamas is in power and there are 2 million homeless people now whose homes have been destroyed, the infrastructure has been destroyed. it's a tragic reality in gaza that will take years to repair. so. so this is just the beginning of a new phase in the life of israelis and palestinians. and we really have to move beyond this war and understand that we can't keep doing this. >> yeah. i mean as. um, as good as this news is, you laid out so many of the pitfalls and the realities that

are going to be in the way in the next couple of days as we see this. i also want to say you, of course, don't work with hamas. and thank you for correcting my inartful way of explaining that. it's been it's been a long afternoon. uh, just, just, just on the on the whole question of not a penny going into gaza, as long as hamas is in charge. i mean that it seems to me, and this isn't rocket science here, that i'm kind of coming up with this. but when you look back at the months and months and months of negotiations, hamas being in charge is one of the key sticking points here, because hamas, you know, usually when you you have a war and then there's a ceasefire. the ceasefire comes because one side is defeated and waves the white flag. hamas has never been waving the white flag. they have been. and alex

marquardt here reminded me that tony blinken said just yesterday that they're reconstituting despite the fact that they have been really crippled because of the israeli bombardment. so as a negotiator, how do you square that circle? >> well, you have to realize that in modern wars there are no victors. there is no one side which is defeated or admits defeat and waves the white flag. it doesn't happen anymore in this gaza-israel war. there are no winners here. there are only losers. and both sides have lost tremendously. both the israelis are experiencing the biggest trauma for the jewish people since the holocaust, and the palestinians. i believe the trauma that they're facing is worse than what they faced in 1948, what they call the nakba, the catastrophe. so there are no winners here. but the realization is that there is no armed struggle which is viable to free palestine. this is something the palestinian people need to understand and conclude, and the israelis have to understand that there is no military solution to this conflict. there is only a

political, diplomatic solution. the world is getting together. just today in oslo, 90 countries global alliance for the implementation of the two state solution. the two state solution is back here. we need to get rid of our leaders that are ruling us here in israel and in palestine, because they have failed us for too many years. we need new leaders to come out of this tragedy, of this war. and the victory will be when the people of israel and the people of palestine look each other in the face and say, you are here and you have a right to be here. 7 million israeli jews, 7 million palestinian arabs living between the jordan river and the mediterranean sea. and no one is going anywhere. we have to make sure that this is the last war. that would be the victory. >> that sounds a lot like utopia. but you know what? let's let's go for it. why not? >> i believed a month ago that syria. >> that is true. fair. very fair point. gershon baskin, thank you so much for being here. appreciate it. thank you. president elect donald trump's pick for attorney general.

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the nation's top prosecutor. the attorney general of the united states. she is florida's former attorney general and close trump ally who joined his legal defense during his first impeachment and was behind him when he challenged the election in 2020. here's how bondi responded when she was pressed about whether she would enforce a enemies list at the justice department. >> and i'm questioning you right now about whether you will enforce an enemies list that he announced publicly on television. oh, senator. >> i'm sorry. there will never be an enemies list within the department of justice. >> that was a question about kash patel, the president's nominee for the fbi. you see there on the screen, we've also been watching lawmakers ask questions of marco rubio donald trump's choice for secretary of state. and john ratcliffe, who is up for cia director. our correspondents are covering all of these developments, very high stakes hearings. manu. i want to start with you on

capitol hill. what are you hearing from republicans generally on how these are going? and then specifically, if you will, how marco is hearing went? >> very positive. in fact, republicans are confident that all of these nominees who have been gone through their confirmation hearings so far will get confirmed and that they believe that they may even be able to pick up some democratic support for some of these key nominees. marco rubio you mentioned this has been a very bipartisan affair from the beginning, naming a senator, typically, a senator gets confirmed by his fellow senators pretty easily, and this will be no different. we expect a wide bipartisan support for his nomination. this could be one of the first, if not the first, nominations to be confirmed by the united states senate as early as next week, when donald trump officially takes office. but then pam bondi as well, even though she did have some intense exchanges with some democratic members on the committee, including the ranking democrat dick durbin,

as well as on down the line to the freshman adam schiff, there were some positive signs for her on the democratic side of the aisle. i caught up with one democratic senator, peter welch of vermont, who told me that he did that. he believes that bondi did a good job, and he suggested that he could be open to voting for her. cory booker to the new jersey democrat, didn't rule out voting for her as well, so that he was still reviewing some of the things that she had said. so there's some signs that perhaps she could potentially get bipartisan support as well. there's some controversial picks also going through hearings today, including russ vought, who's the head of the white house budget office. he was picked to be that position, that one of the most powerful positions in government. he has very conservative. he has conservative views. a lot of democrats are concerned about some of the things that he wants to do in terms of the federal regulations, as well as cutting spending and the like. so how does he ultimately do in winning bipartisan support? that might be a little bit harder, but they don't need bipartisan support. dana, as you well know, simple majority is enough in the united states

senate that is controlled 5347 by the gop right now should be enough to get most, if not all of these nominees confirmed, potentially as soon as many of them, as soon as next week. dana. >> yeah, really amazing. manu. thank you so much. now, i do want to go to paula reid. paula, the the fireworks today inside the pam bondi hearing, i would say you correct me if i'm wrong. i had to peel off after about a couple of hours because of the breaking news out of the middle east, but it wasn't so much about her qualifications. democrat after democrat who i heard said, you have the qualifications for the job. it's based on her background and experience. the questions were about how she approaches her job, given the fact that donald trump would be her boss in the white house, and a lot of frustration, i heard from democrats that she wouldn't answer specifically. separate from that, whether or not joe biden won the 2020

election, she just said over and over, joe biden is president. that's exactly right. >> the one thing that everybody in the room seemed to agree on is that bondi is qualified for this job. coming to today's confirmation hearing with decades of experience as a state prosecutor, including eight years as the state's first female attorney general. but bondi's challenge today was convincing skeptical republicans that she would be able to resist the kind of pressure that president-elect trump has applied on his previous attorneys general, like jeff sessions and bill barr, when he wanted to use the justice department for his own aims. now, bondi tried to convince lawmakers that there would be no enemies list, that she would not pursue people because of their political affiliation. she, even when asked about if she would investigate former special counsel jack smith, she insisted that he is, quote, not been prejudged, but some of the most heated exchanges were about comments she made about the 2020 election. let's take a listen to one of those exchanges. >> president biden is the

president of the united states. >> he was duly sworn in, and he is the president of the united states. there was a peaceful transition of power. president trump left office and was overwhelmingly elected in 2024. i accept the results. i accept, of course, that joe biden is president of the united states. but what i can tell you is what i saw firsthand when i went to pennsylvania as an advocate for the campaign. i was an advocate for the campaign, and i was on the ground in pennsylvania, and i saw many things there. but do i accept the results? of course i do. >> so democrats kept returning to this issue, trying to get her to say that trump lost the 2020 election, something she would not say now. republicans were more focused on her resume and some of the other important work that the justice department does at this point, she appears likely to sail through confirmation. but dana, one of the big surprises out of this hearing

was how many questions she got about kash patel trump's pick to lead the fbi. we expected 1 or 2 questions, but she was asked to weigh in on his enemies list, his plans to dismantle parts of the fbi, and his alleged support for qanon. now, she deferred to him on all those questions, but the fact that she got so many suggests that his path to confirmation won't be so smooth. >> yeah, that's exactly right. and the fundamental question that these democrats clearly wanted answered, and i'm not sure that they, for the most part, felt totally satisfied, is will she follow the rule of law or will she follow donald trump if and when he says to do something that doesn't follow the rule of law? paula, thank you so much. appreciate it. and when we come back, much more of our coverage on the ceasefire and hostage deal between israel and hamas. stay with us. >> kobe believed in himself at

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alex marquardt, what have you been hearing from your sources? as we have been doing other news and and talking to others? >> well, now we're pretty sure this is going to happen. so how is it going to happen? and president biden, we heard just moments ago talking about how this is exactly the plan that he laid out back at the end of may in 2024. i think what's slightly different is this this figure of 33, 34 hostages to come out that has remained consistent. but what's different this time is that it's going to be a combination. we think of both hostages who are still alive and those who are deceased. now, the first cease fire deal in late 2023, that was ten hostages per day. there was a steady drumbeat before it fell apart after eight days. there's a lot of room for error here. we're talking about just over 30 hostages to come out over the course of, of 42 days. and so there's a lot that can go wrong during those gaps between those releases, because we think that they're going to come out in different groups. and then, of

course, the big question about what happens after those six weeks, assuming that they go successfully, will the trump administration have the same priorities as the biden administration in terms of seeing? and these are key hamas sticking points. the israelis leave the gaza strip and allow all that aid to get in. i think one of the main driving factors for the trump administration is this desire to see israeli normalization with saudi arabia, a growing of the abraham accords, and saudi arabia. for all the criticism of crown prince mbs, and perhaps that he may not be the biggest supporter of palestinians, he is not going to normalize with israel unless there thy to to palestinian statehood. and we're certainly not hearing that from the israelis today. i think that's a that's a major question going forward. >> yeah. i mean, he might not be a big supporter of palestinians, but the people, young people, especially on the streets of his country,

certainly are. what about you? >> absolutely. i mean, i think that this the level of difficulty of any of this. yes, the level of difficulty of getting to this from the first place. hugely high. right. but now the level of difficulty of seeing this through is just incredible. and i think that, you know, we are probably in for a pretty rough ride. a lot of ups and downs. but the point that alex just made about what does donald trump want? and and this is key for what netanyahu does because he faces so much domestic opposition to doing a permanent deal. but donald trump needs that permanent deal in order to get what he wants in the middle east. dold trump a few times. you didn't. you were not a political appointee, per intelligence official. and as part of that job, donald trump came in and you helped to give him his his daily brief. given

that knowledge of him, how he approaches these things, obviously that was his first term. this is eight years later, a different set of circumstances, a lot different experiences behind him. give us some insight into what you expect him to do and not do as he does. take the reins on this really important. yet, as you were both saying, deal. that is kind of on tenterhooks. >> one of the things i think is really important to understand is that he is going to negotiate hard and pressure netanyahu. this idea that was suggested that, you know, he's buddies with netanyahu, whether that is true or not, is, i think, disputable. but regardless, he is going to hold netanyahu's feet to the fire to get this done. and the second thing is that all of

this is about a negotiation and everything that happens is about strengthening his position in order to get this done. posturing, posturing, purposefully. yeah. and so we're going to see a lot of pressure on all sides. it's not just going to be about threatening hamas. there's a lot going behind the scenes on netanyahu to keep this going, and it's going to be required. >> yeah, i mean, listen, donald trump and bibi netanyahu had a falling out after donald trump lost because netanyahu dared to call joe biden the the president or the president elect. >> they did. they've obviously repaired that relationship through meetings and and whatnot. but beth's point, i think, is a good one, that this is something that the trump administration, president trump wants. he does not want to be weighed down by this. he was not elected because of this. this is not really a central focus, but a reminder that

presidents have to deal with whatever comes their way. but i think, interestingly, president biden just a short time ago, who is still president for five more days, he said, in these past few days, we've been speaking as one team, and i think it's members of the team who are involved in this are very important to this because brett mcgurk, who has been a president biden's longtime middle east negotiator, he worked in the bush administration in the rebuilding of iraq. he worked for president obama and whatnot. so these are very core parts of the team. but steve witkoff is a real estate investor. developer does not have this type of foreign policy experience, but they work together on this. so when president biden has said, i told my team to coordinate closely, speaking with the same voice because that's what american presidents do. i think that is what is remarkable of this. now, he saw this through five days before he leaves office. he will not be involved in the rest of this. so we don't know actually how it will be for legacy purposes, but it certainly is one of the

just interesting developments for these bitter rivals, at least on the biden side, worked together at the end, audie, the devil's in the details and the implementation is the biggest thing. >> i mean, i'm sorry we're towards the end because i want to know from beth, what does it mean to bring people up to speed who don't have those backgrounds? what is it like to sit in that room and have be on the edge and to tell them, hey, this is what you need to know. there's a lot of complex questions coming up, and it's not totally clear beyond what donald trump wants. who's equipped to have those conversations going forward? >> well, the thing that wittkopf brings to the table is that he speaks for the president, and that's what allowed him to go into the room a week ago. and really tell bibi, get this done. that is what made the difference in this deal. >> okay. thanks, guys. don't go anywhere. we are following other breaking news that is still happening in california. firefighters are still battling dangerously high winds,

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and hamas a critical first step. >> he also says the ceasefire must remove obstacles to delivering aid to gaza, amid what he calls a catastrophic humanitarian situation there. i want to get straight to the person who knows firsthand what the humanitarian situation and what the medical challenges are on the ground in gaza. doctor thayer, ahmed ahmad, forgive me, doctor ahmad, who treated people in gaza after october 7th. and doctor, i know you are also an emergency physician on the board of the palestinian american medical association. thank you so much for being here. first, your reaction to the news? >> i mean, there's an incredible sense of relief. i mean, i've been watching the live feed from gaza, speaking to colleagues since the news first broke. and there's just so many people who are excited. there's people celebrating in the streets. they were just very tired, you know, for the last 15 months, there have been people who've been suffering tremendously, displaced from their homes. and the idea that

this can finally be over, you can feel it in the air. and so really, the work starts now. but also people are taking a second to process everything that's happened. and the sense of relief is very much palpable here in the united states, as well as over in gaza and in the west bank. >> so the humanitarian aid is supposed to start soon, as soon as this is fully phase one is is starting to be implemented, i should say. what are the first critical items needed based on your time there on the ground? >> well, you know, it's it was miserable the last 15 months with respect to getting aid. and it was a point that many organizations were raising the fact that it was impossible to predict when you'd be able to deliver food, water, medical supplies. and in addition to that, there was also this notion of trying to get people out of gaza who needed medical evacuation. my hope is that we don't go back to a pre october 7th situation, because even then there was a blockade on gaza that made things difficult. i hope that the

rafah border, which is between egypt and gaza, can be opened in a consistent fashion so that we can see food coming in. i mean, it's important to keep in mind that there was an intentional starvation of the population over the last 15 months, and the first thing that you have to do is you need to flood the markets with food and clean water. we know that there was the polio outbreak, but many diseases that get spread because there's a lack of clean water can be eradicated really quickly. if we can make sure enough clean water is getting in. and finally, it's important to keep in mind the health care system has been devastated. i mean, there's been attacks on hospitals and doctors being arrested. are we going to be able to bring in medical supplies and try to get this back on its feet? i mean, these are huge questions. and if we go back to the day before october 7th, things will not be easy and people will unnecessarily die. so that's what everybody is really anxious about. the other thing i'll mention is that in the ceasefire deal, what we're looking at is suggesting that air raids will be paused for 12 hours in the day. i hope that that can actually mean that there will be no air raids, because people are going to be

very anxious to see what's left of their homes, to get back to the north. and i just hope that they're not caught in any sort of raids that will cost them their lives. >> are you confident that hamas will allow this critical aid to get to its civilian population? >> well, i think you have to look at the agency of the palestinian people. that's part of the pressure that led to a cease fire deal. i think people in the gaza strip are ready for this to be over. and i think all of the parties in the gaza strip recognize that. and it's going to make, you know, there's a lot of people who've lost their lives over the last 15 months. there's a lot of homes that have been gone. the health care system was brought to its knees, and so every single part of palestinian society is going to be motivated to try to return to some sort of normalcy. i fear, just as a humanitarian and a physician, that it's going to be impossible to get back to that point, given the destruction that israel has inflicted on the gaza strip. i mean, we are talking about hell on earth, so i just hope that there can be an effort from the international community to

support the recovery. and so that people in palestine, in the gaza strip can actually start to heal and start to move forward, hopefully back to some sort of normalcy. >> yeah, it is going to take a lot of effort by a lot of people in the region and and well beyond in order to, to get gaza to a place where people who live there have the rights that they deserve to live freely from everybody who's trying to keep them down. i really appreciate you being here. thank you so much, doctor. >> thank you. >> we'll be right back. >> with the last fire i covered here in the palisades. >> that was 1000 acres. this is 16,000 acres. >> there were flames on both sides of the highway. there were embers flying. >> we see fire trucks coming from all around the state. >> what is the situation with the water? >> obviously, in the palisades. it ran out last night. and the hydrant? why do i have to ask the governor why there is not water in the fire hydrants? >> oh my god, it's hard for me

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>> now to some of the other headlines we're watching this hour. a major move on the health front by the outgoing biden administration. the fda is proposing caps on the level of nicotine in cigarettes, with the goal of making them less addictive. if enacted, the average nicotine level in tobacco products affected would be cut by 95%. smoking is still the leading preventable cause of disease and death in the u.s., linked to over 480,000 deaths each year. and a major u.s. gasoline pipeline shutdown could last through friday. the colonial pipeline company says it's still working to find the source of a suspected leak in georgia. it supplies nearly half of the gasoline used on the east coast. analysts say a brief shutdown shouldn't cause big issues, but a longer delay could be a problem. and with just days left of the biden administration, white house press secretary karine jean-pierre took the final

podium. the podium, i should say, one final time. >> the give and take that happens here is incredibly healthy, and it is part of our democracy. >> i have been honored to partake in it with all of you. well, most of the time i've been i've been honored to take it. but in all seriousness, seriousness, um, i also said at the first briefing, i would not be here today if it were not for generations of barrier breaking people before me. i do want to say thank you to president biden and first lady doctor biden for this incredible opportunity. as i said earlier, standing at this podium, behind this lectern, serving the american people and this administration has been an honor of a lifetime, and i will be forever grateful. >> jean-pierre first took over as press secretary in may of 2022, after serving as deputy press secretary. the first black woman and lgbt, lgbtq

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