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thoughts going into the weekend? >> i think look, it's mcconnell is right. i mean, it is going to be fast and furious monday, tuesday, buckle up. because i don't think that this country is ready for what's about to hit him. >> alex, i completely agree. i think trump feels an incredible amount of incredible mandate, and i don't think any amount of media backlash is going to get him to sort of stop. >> okay. i mean, it's a it's an emotional weekend for me in some ways. i work for joe biden for almost ten years. so i'm watching the end of of a lot of work that i was really proud of. so for me, it's it's emotional, but i also certainly agree with these guys. i think trump feels the wind at his back, and i think he's going to see that that honeymoon is going to evaporate sooner rather than later, is my guess. >> on joe biden's first day, he issued executive orders that opened up the border essentially in many ways, and also drove up the price of energy. both those two things were the seeds of his destruction. so watch donald trump's first day. let's hope it works out better for him. >> all right. thank you guys all for joining us. have a
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wonderful weekend. thanks to all of you at home. i hope you have a wonderful weekend as well. i'm kasie hunt. don't go anywhere. cnn news central starts right now. >> breaking news. no president in the history of u.s. presidents has ever done what president biden just did. the eye popping number of sentences just commuted with just days left to cement his legacy. >> also breaking overnight, the delay appears to be over. >> israel's cabinet is now on the brink of a historic cease fire vote. >> when we could see hostages released and the end of bombardments, and file this one under one part. >> scary. >> two parts pretty beautiful and unmanned space x rocket explodes, sending burning debris streaking across the sky and raining down in the caribbean. i'm kate bolduan with sara sidner and john berman. this is cnn news
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central friday all right. >> breaking just a few minutes ago with the new york times calls the broadest commutation of individual sentences ever issued by a u.s. president with just three days left in his presidency, president biden just granted clemency for nearly 2500 nonviolent drug offenders. the president is focusing on those given sentences longer compared to what they would receive under current law, and based on what they say is discredited. distinctions between crack and powder cocaine. let's get right to cnn's arlette saenz at the white house. one more. just huge wave of commutations just before he's leaving office. arlette. >> yeah. >> john, with just three days to go, president biden is working down to the wire today, this morning announcing this sweeping commutation of
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nearly 2500 nonviolent crime offenders, especially focusing on those who were dealing with the sentencing disparity due to crack cocaine. >> now, this is something that president biden is saying, that he is now becoming the president with the most pardons and commutations in the history of the u.s., and it's really drilling in on that disparity. this disparity in the sentencing between crack and powder cocaine arose back from a 1986 law that then senator biden had actually co-sponsored. but in recent years, president biden has pushed to try to end some of these sentencing disparities. and he is hoping that these commutations will offer some relief to those individuals. now, this is just the latest round of pardons that president biden is issuing in his final weeks in office. of course, he had commuted the sentences of some federal death row inmates. he had also issued that very controversial pardon for his son, hunter biden. and we will see whether there are any other
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announcements on these fronts in these final days. now, president biden has also been teeing up a number of actions in his final weeks as he's preparing to hand things over to president-elect donald trump. in some cases, some of the steps he's taking, he's hoping might be difficult for trump to overturn. just there's a host of actions that he's taken, but just to run through a few. he's banned future oil and gas drilling in about 625 million acres of ocean. that is a move that actually infuriated president elect donald trump. but biden crafted it in a way that it would be very difficult for him to undo. he's also extended temporary protected status to nearly 1 million immigrants. that includes people from venezuela, el salvador, sudan and ukraine. he's also removed cuba from the state sponsors of terrorism list. and in a rare area where president biden and president-elect trump agree, he blocked the sale of u.s. steel to japan. now there are still three days left. there's a number of items that biden could continue to act on. people are pushing for him to
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certify the equal rights amendment, and he has also said he is still weighing preemptive pardons for individuals who could be targeted for prosecution once trump takes power. so president biden, certainly working down to the wire as he's preparing to now leave office on monday, could be an eventful few days. >> arlette saenz at the white house. thank you. sarah. >> all right. we are now on the brink of a ceasefire in gaza. the israeli security cabinet meeting. very soon. they must sign off on the deal to allow the government's final approval. meantime, u.s. president-elect trump is taking credit for the deal as president biden defends his role in the negotiations and the months he spent supporting israel while urging them to protect innocent lives. >> i kept reminding my friend, and he is a friend. although we don't agree a whole lot lately, bibi netanyahu, that he has to find a way to accommodate the legitimate concerns of a large group of
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people called palestinians who have no place to live independently. >> a key vote by the full israeli cabinet had been postponed earlier this week. if approved, hostage releases could begin sunday. overnight, israel bombarded gaza, killing dozens. let's get right now to cnn anchor and senior global affairs analyst bianna golodryga. you're live in tel aviv. what are you hearing from the prime minister's office and from those who are waiting? hopefully their loved ones to be returned. >> so, sarah, some news to bring you and our viewers. the israeli security cabinet is currently meeting. has not yet voted on agreeing to this ceasefire hostage deal, though it is expected to overwhelmingly support this deal. what we're also learning now is that an hour and a half from now, about 330 local time, the full cabinet will be meeting and is expected to vote in approval of this cease fire
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hostage deal. the prime minister's office issuing a statement earlier this morning, subject to the approval of the cabinet and government and the implementation of the agreement, the release of the hostages could take place according to the planned outline, with the hostages expected to be released as early as sunday. sara, this is what the country has been waiting for. it is what those in gaza have been waiting for as well. because if this goes through as agreed to, then on sunday we will start to see a pause in the fighting. we'll start to see the first of the 33 hostages expected to be released in phase one. two of those, we should note, are american citizens expected to be released over the course of six weeks. sagui dekel-chen and keith siegel being among them. but the first that we are expected to see released as soon as sunday and into next week are the female hostages. three israeli civilians, three idf female soldiers. next week sara bianna golodryga with that update, now that the
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security is now meeting at this hour to try to finalize this deal, appreciate it. >> kate. >> and there is also new cnn reporting coming out today. we'll bring to you about donald trump's plans to crack down on immigration as soon as he takes office and how soon the details on the executive orders that he has now teed up. that's next. plus, we're keeping an eye on the supreme court today, all because of tiktok. will they or won't they step in before the u.s. tiktok ban sets in? and a new twist in the public battle between actors blake lively and justin baldoni. she is now responding to his $400 million defamation lawsuit. >> i lay on my back, frozen, thinking the darkest thoughts and then everything changed, dana said. you're still you and i love you, super man. >> the christopher reeve story february 2nd on cnn. >> what do you got there, larry?
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would be followed with an immigration crackdown in metropolitan areas. >> of course, immigration and customs enforcement does arrest and detain immigrants on a near-daily basis, but this would be an emphasis on that, especially in those sanctuary jurisdictions, areas that tom homan the incoming border czar, has criticized multiple times. they limit their cooperation with federal immigration enforcement authorities. now, some of these cities that have been told that i have been told could be targeted include, for example, denver, chicago, two areas, of course, that have seen an influx of migrants over recent years. now, another emphasis for the incoming officials are also going to be those jurisdictions that do cooperate with immigration and customs enforcement. those areas that that ice can delegate authority to local police departments, essentially serving as a force multiplier. you're going to hear that term a lot. that means bringing on as many people as they can to arrest
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undocumented immigrants, especially those public safety and national security threats. in the early days of the administration. now, the other bucket here is the border. now, we should note here, kate, that it is a relatively quiet border right now. numbers are very low, but all the same, these early executive actions will include a national emergency declaration to get more pentagon resources to the u.s. southern border and additional asylum restrictions. and i will also note the third bucket here being legal immigration. so the travel ban that president joe biden pulled back. well, that's going to come back. now, sources tell me it's unclear who examined who exactly it's going to include, but that is something that is under deliberation. also under deliberation, ending birthright citizenship. we've been hearing that a lot on the campaign trail. and that is something that the lawyers are reviewing. of course, that is complicated and would likely require congress or at the very least, would tee up a legal fight. now, of course, as you mentioned, we're on capitol hill because kristi noem, who
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has been tapped to lead the department of homeland security, is going to be here for her confirmation hearing. she has called the border a war zone. she is currently the governor of south dakota. if she is confirmed, she would be charged with implementing this agenda. while the power center of policy, of course, would be at the white house with stephen miller and tom homan. kate. >> yeah. let's see what happens this morning. very interesting. what the questions she's going to be receiving, especially with in light of your great reporting, as always, priscilla. thank you very much, john. >> all right. we are standing by for a critical decision from the supreme court that could determine the future of tiktok in the u.s., 170 million americans are on the edge of their seats as the ban is set to take effect in just two days. and then flights suddenly diverted when elon musk's spacex starship explodes in the sky. what
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day extension. >> so it's time to take a breath, try to step back, buy some time, try to figure this out rationally. >> but in no way should we have tiktok go dark on sunday. it would be catastrophic for just so many small businesses, so many creators, so many communities that have been created with no alternative available to them. >> all right. joining me now is cnn media analyst sara fisher. thank you so much for being here this morning. first to the supreme court. when you look at what's happening and that the deadline is sunday, are you expecting a definitive decision on this case? >> we're expecting something today. >> now, it could be that they decide to just punt this and not take it up before the ban would go into effect on the 19th. and if we were to get some sort of decision, sara, we do kind of have a sense of where they would fall. they indicated last week, justices
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from both parties basically saying that the tiktok argument that this would be a first amendment violation doesn't really hold water in their eyes. you know, kate amy coney barrett basically saying, we're not saying that they don't have a right to free speech. we're just saying that they have to divest. justice elena kagan also noting that it's a chinese company. so it's not even that they have first amendment protections. so if we do get a decision today, which i think is possible, it seems likely that the supreme court would uphold the ban simply because tiktok's first amendment defense does not seem to pass the smell test with them. >> yeah, and tiktok has said that they're going to go further than just sort of like letting it linger on your app. it's going to go dark. it's going to stop working. so americans on tiktok are flocking to another chinese app called rednote, and they're calling themselves tiktok refugees. why rednote? and does it have some of the same security concerns as tiktok? >> it does. sara. i mean, when
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i downloaded it, i converted the mandarin terms of service into english just so i could see what i would be agreeing to. you have to agree to uphold the national security values of the chinese socialist party. so the communist party. so that's one thing. the other is that this app is entirely in mandarin. so yes, there's been a spike of users that are flocking to it because the features are very similar. it's short form vertical video that you can scroll through. it's lifestyle focused, but the fact that the whole thing is in mandarin, i think, is going to prevent this thing from becoming super viral in the u.s. i do think u.s. users are looking for an alternative that feels like tiktok. that's obviously going to be in english. >> i do want to ask you what the odds are of a last minute buyer, and if that would even stop this ban from taking place in these very late hours. these deals usually take a very long time. is there any chance someone from the united states ends up buying tiktok and bytedance agrees? >> i mean, there's a few proposals that are being thrown out there. billionaire frank
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mccourt and his company, project liberty, has put forth a bid with kevin o'leary and a few others. mrbeast, the big youtube creator, has said that he's met with billionaires about a bid. the problem, though, that you mentioned, sara, is one. china has said pretty vehemently that they do not want bytedance to divest this to a u.s. company. so even if they were able to aggregate the funds, remember this could be valued at anywhere between 20 billion and $100 billion. you know whether or not china would let this get sold is one challenge. and then the other big challenge is, as you note, there's procedures in place in place that take a long time with deals. now, if they were to agree to a deal in principle, you could see a world in which the trump doj might not enforce the ban while a deal gets worked out. but you know, one thing that i want to note at the top of this segment, when you had that lawmaker saying, well, there's no alternatives, i kind of disagree with that. you have all of these other social media companies in america, whether that's meta with reels or youtube, with shorts that have short form
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video products. i do think there are probably alternatives here, and i think that that argument won't be one that stands. >> now you're seeing some of the alternatives there. lemon8 being one that tiktok is pushing people to instagram. there's a bunch of options, but people have flocked to tiktok and that's where their sort of social media lies, especially if they're business owners and people don't know where to go. so it is going to be a huge disruptor if it is banned. sarah fisher, thank you so much for unraveling all of that for us this morning. >> kate one of many things we have to keep our eye on is what happens with the supreme court, potentially with that tiktok ban. we will see also this new warnings in california now of landslides, the devastation from the wildfires so vast they're now warning that the soil around even the homes that survived the fires is now becoming unstable. and president biden and incoming president donald trump are at odds this time over what they had been working together on. so they say the israel-hamas hostage and cease fire deal the tension. now, who deserves the
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there. new video now from along the pacific coast highway showing rows of homes burned to the ground. cnn's stephanie elam is on the ground for us in pacific palisades. stephanie, the weather has finally offered a bit of a relief. what are you seeing and what's the latest on the fires there? yeah, it's it's a bit of relief. but we also know that next week we could have another santa ana wind event. and obviously that is of concern here. >> but overall the area is still very much on lockdown here in pacific palisades because so much of it looks like this just mass devastation, so much so that you can go block after block after block, and all of that is going to take a long time to clean up. and also because of that, it's going to take a long time for residents in this particular part of the affected area to get back home. take a listen to the mayor of malibu discussing that. >> the hillsides in malibu are extremely burned for the
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firefighters. they know that there's a glaze that goes on a heavily burned soil. and if we have a rainstorm, this is going to be almost catastrophic. if we're not prepared for it. a lot of the work that's being done right now in the recovery portion is to get ready for rain, not just to remove the debris. >> and we've seen this happen before. typically before things were affected by human induced climate change. january was the second wettest month of the rainy season. and then february is the wettest. so while there's no plan for any rain on the schedule right now, we don't see any coming. if it does come in february, it's very concerning because you can see those hillsides behind a lot of the pacific palisades and malibu area. if they get all that rain, those root systems of all the plants and trees that used to be there, that burned away, it will just slough off. and if that happens, you can have a massive mudslide like we saw in the thomas fire up in montecito. and that happened in january of 2018. and there were deaths
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because of that. so if you look at that situation, that's why they're very concerned about it. but if you look to see where we're standing now, this is indicative of pretty much all of pacific palisades. it's just unbelievable. still this many days later, sarah. >> no, absolutely. stephanie elam and i know that you and i both were there in 2018 seeing the effect of those mudslides that happened because of the rain. so not only the winds, but the rain can can have such a devastating impact after something like this. thank you so much to you and your crew out there early this morning for us, john. >> all right. with us now, steven dettelbach, director of the bureau of alcohol, tobacco, firearms and explosives. for the remainder of today, it is your last day on the job. the atf is part of a joint task force leading this investigation, really, into the fires in california. can you give us any updates on what you found so far in terms of the cause? >> well, so as you said, what we've done is we've called in what's called the national response team, which is a group that responded to the maui
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wildfires. it responded on new year's day in new orleans because the fire associated with that attack and deploys, at the request of our partners, and when we come in and do is we bring chemists, we bring investigators, we bring certified fire investigators, certified explosives investigators, forensic people, and we literally look under every stone, both literally and figuratively. i will tell you, it's an ongoing investigation. it will take a while. and, john, the other thing that that makes these things very, very tricky is there's still an ongoing casualty event, a fire event. so obviously the devastation that we've heard about our heart goes out, but we have to also prioritize making sure that people are safe before the investigation can can do all the things we want to do. >> what are the different possibilities in terms of what starts a fire like this? and how can you tell when you look under that stone? >> so there's four different conclusions that you usually see depending on the facts. so
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one of them is what's called an incendiary fire. that's an arson. atf has been in charge of investigating those things for 50 years all over the country. on the federal side, of course, with our partners. another one would be an accidental fire. a third would be what we call natural causes. and then the fourth, which sometimes happens, is it can be indeterminate, which is you don't know. you look at all sorts of things. these are these are highly trained experts on this issue. so they'll look at burn patterns. they'll look at whether there's one place where the fire started or several places where the fire started. they'll they'll look at chemistry and they'll just go out and do independent lead investigation. they'll look at camera footage, they'll they'll talk to the people all around the area. they'll they'll do all the things that that really qualified and expert federal investigators do to try and put together the forensic, the good old fashioned gumshoe detective work and their expertise. and the most important thing,
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because i'll tell you, john, this is going to take a while. i know that from from past experience from maui is to get it right. >> it is going to take a while. as you keep saying, what are the particular challenges about this investigation? >> well, obviously all of these are different, but obviously this is a vast area that's involved. we're we're basically taking the lead on the pacific palisades. so we're talking about right now 26,000 acres and counting of destroyed area, almost 3000 or more homes. as you pointed out in the reporting, hundreds of thousands of people displaced. those are all challenges. the scope of the endeavor, the stakes and the tragedy and devastation that's been caused are all. and the fact that the fire is still going, those are all going to be challenges. but we have seen this before and there is nobody better in the world at atf than this. and i say this on my last day as director, this national response team, which is supporting our brave people already in california, is
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typical of atf. i don't think people know that among the many things we do in running to gunfire and and dealing with very, very dangerous situations is also this includes fire related investigations. and for people out there who who want to know a government agency, a law enforcement agency that's saving lives and deserves to be properly supported and funded. and i say that to the people who make those decisions and will make them after i'm gone tonight, you need to support law enforcement, and atf is a huge part of that equation. >> thank you so much for explaining this process so well. i think we all learned something. atf director steven dettelbach were honored that you spent the morning of your last day with us. appreciate it. okay. >> thanks so much, john. we also have new reporting this morning on president-elect donald trump's plan to crack down on immigration as soon as he takes office. we're talking hours, not days, in the incoming administration in this new cnn reporting, is reportedly finalizing a slate
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of executive orders that could be released within hours after he is sworn in. that is, according to two sources familiar with the plans. the plans include ice sweeps across major american cities, moving more pentagon resources to the southern border and working quickly to roll back the policies that the biden administration has put in place. joining us right now to talk about this is megan hayes, democratic strategist, former white house director of message planning under president biden and pete seat, former spokesman in the george w bush white house. it's great to see you guys. pete, it's great to have you here in person. megan, i wish you were here as well. hours after he takes office. these people can expect executive actions to take. one side note, trump and republicans have both criticized and biden for using and not using executive actions when it comes to immigration. i digress, but these big sweeps of american cities and much more campaign promise made, campaign promise kept. >> absolutely. >> campaign promise made and kept. he ran on immigration. he is a hardliner on this topic
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and securing our border and making sure that we tackle the scourge of illegal immigration in this country. and donald trump has said, you know, a lot of people think it's bluster and bluff when he says, i'm going to act on day one. it sounds like he's going to act on day one. and tom homan has been saying the same thing ever since he was tapped to lead ice in this trump administration. he has said on day one, 12:01 p.m. expect action to be taken and a lot of action needs to be taken because joe biden signed, i think it was 94 or 96 executive orders in his first 100 days to scrap what trump had done and what was working. so they're probably going to have to reverse a lot of that. >> we'll get to that. the back and forth of executive orders, scrapping in just a second, megan. how do democrats democrats want a secure southern border as well? how do democrats respond to this, react to these moves. and in their view, make sure it doesn't go too far because you know that kamala harris, during
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the campaign, definitely moved to take a more aggressive approach approach on immigration as part of the campaign. this gets to this debate that's important and interesting of amongst democrats, which is should they be the resistance or should they learn to coexist with republicans and trump this time? >> look, i think they're going to have to take a middle road here, right? >> we're going to have to coexist. but we also have to make sure that we're doing things that the american people want that also are constitutionally correct and appropriate. >> so i think that, you know, the two pronged approach here is having a secure border with a legal citizenship or a pathway to citizenship. but i think that some of these actions that he wants to take on day one, he's not going to want to have some of the optics of mass deportations and separating families here. so i think that where we will see some actions being taken from trump, it will not be as extreme as he was when he was campaigning. again, campaigning is different than governing, and i think this is one of those issues where they're going to figure out that governing is going to be much more challenging than the campaign, and they also, you would think, pete, have learned the lesson of when you put in
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place a policy without thinking of how quickly, how how the fallout will lay with the first, you know, with the with the first immigrant, with the first ban travel ban that they put in place. >> i mean, the optics of that was horrendous. >> well, i would say it would be smart to set expectations. almost anything the government does doesn't matter if it's republican or democrat. it can be a little messy at times. >> and if it's actually a good point, do you think they're setting expectations too high for what they're going to be able to pull off? yeah. >> and look, i think that is a hallmark of donald trump. he loves to set high expectations. he will move the goalposts if he needs to, to declare victory. but the prudent move on this, i think, would be to lay the expectations out and say, hey, this isn't going to be quick and it's not going to be easy. >> there's also been a lot written about how much joe biden is doing in these final days to, i'll just say, box trump in potentially. i mean, you've got the commutations, the list that he that was just announced this morning, bans on oil and gas drilling in the
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final moments, extending temporary protected status to nearly a million immigrants, removing cuba from the state sponsor of terror list. what is what do you think joe biden is doing and what do you think it does to donald trump? >> look, i think donald trump has a very smart team behind him, or they are going to try to figure out how to get out of some of these different things. but this is president biden's right. he is president until january 20th at 1159. and he is able to do what he wants to do. and some of these were policies that he wanted to do when he ran for president. so i don't begrudge him for for actually following through to the very last day and running through the tape, as they like to say, over there at the white house. so i don't begrudge him for doing any of that. and donald trump will have to figure out if it's worth the optics of getting out of some of these things that the american people actually did want. >> what do you think, pete, on this one? >> i'm not all that surprised. a lot of presidents do this on their way out the door. >> all presidents do this on the way out the door. it's been noted that what biden has done has been unusually like has been more you know, it's been
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it's been an unusual flurry of executive orders, certainly a flurry and unique and unprecedented in ways. >> let's, you know, hunter biden, we can put that aside. but the sense that i've gotten just watching joe biden in these final weeks is this is not someone who is at peace with his legacy and the way his presidency is ending. and i think some of these decisions are maybe hail mary's to leave some kind of legacy that is more positive than it has been up to this point. and even the fact that he's only done a couple of interviews on the way out, only one television interview last night, only one print interview with usa today. usually a president would be doing a flurry of interviews in addition to those executive orders. >> megan, that actually the legacy question is one that is is gets exactly to the agreement or non-agreement on how well they have worked together when it comes to the israel-hamas hostage and ceasefire deal. biden, sitting down in this final interview that he did just last
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night, and trump sitting down for a radio interview, there's just like an odds on who should get the credit. now look at this i told him what i was doing, what i thought could happen, but what we did, we brought in the people or his going to be his national security people. >> we brought them in closer to tell them what was happening. as we hand this off. >> it was so ungracious of biden to say, oh, he did it. he didn't do anything. if i didn't do this, if we didn't get involved, the hostages would never be out. they would have never come out. >> why can't they, do you think just say, we worked on this together as their staff seem to be very capable of saying that we brought it in. we've worked in coordination. is this is this does this get to the question of legacy for joe biden? >> no. i mean, also to pete's earlier point, you can't judge a legacy here in just the last couple of days of what he's doing. he's had 50 years of public service, so his legacy will be long past some of these executive actions that he's doing in the last couple of days. on the issue of the
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ceasefire, i do think that that joe biden is being more gracious to donald trump and giving them credit, saying they were being brought in. but the fact of the matter is, this was their framework from may, as the president announced. so they should get the lion's share of the credit. they've been over there trying to deal with this negotiation, but also donald trump's team was was impactful here. and so they can split credit. i'm not sure that these two men can figure out how to do that. i think there's some other things at play here, but i do think that both both of these teams deserve credit to get these hostages home. yeah. >> teams versus the two men at the top. those are two different men. yeah, these two men, they're not going to say it. their teams, though, saying we got this done. great to see you guys. thank you very much sarah. >> all right. just ahead. we did lose the ship. the enormous space explosion that rattled people on the ground and managed to disrupt flights. also, americans are more stressed out than ever. what if two simple words can help bring that stress down and potentially change your life in ways you could never imagine? my conversation with world renowned motivational speaker and bestselling author mel robbins ahead.
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might say, it blew the f up. cnn aviation correspondent pete muntean is with us now. and, pete, this actually disrupted air traffic for some time. don't let the pr speak get in the way of a good story there, john. you know, this is pretty significant. and it could be the first time falling space debris has ever had a major impact on air travel like this. though not the first time that falling space junk has been seen by pilots. remember, it's the federal aviation administration that controls airspace in the u.s. these same federal agency that grants launch waivers to spacex. so there could be an interesting rub developing here. pilots reported seeing the view of starship breaking up about ten minutes into its test flight, 90 miles above the earth. that's when the link to starship was lost, and there was apparently some real concern that some of this could fall on a commercial flight below, because the airspace in the caribbean can be very busy, especially in the wintertime. so the faa put into place this rare sweeping delay for flights leaving miami international
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airport. also, fort lauderdale-hollywood international airport. and this was the peculiar line. flights were delayed an average of 45 to 60 minutes because of a rocket launch anomaly. a separate alert from the faa said this was due to debris. and i want you to listen now to this recording from liveatc.net of air traffic controllers telling pilots of this space debris delay. listen. >> we've got a major streak going from at least 60 miles with all these different colors. and just curious, it looked like it was coming towards us, but obviously because of the distance, just just letting you know. >> the good news is this is not last for all that long. and here's the statement from the faa. the faa briefly slowed flights and diverted aircraft around the area where space where the space vehicle debris was falling, and that normal operations have resumed. now, the faa says it was able to divert some flights away from this, but also keep incoming flights out of the area
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concerned. this is exactly why the faa restricts airspace and will slow flights because of a launch and private space flight really makes the skies all the more crowded. they're crowded already with airliners and such, so this is the first time maybe that this has happened, but probably not the last. the faa says it establishes what it calls a debris. response area. when something like this happens. how's that for a little bit of a another misnomer there, john? yeah. >> look, i'm going to file this in all stuff i didn't know until pete muntean just told me all that's really interesting, pete. and for child of the 80s, like me, what it really all looked like was an advertisement for reading rainbow. but that aside, thank you for your reporting this morning. >> all of the colors, john. all of the colors. >> as always, thanks for your reporting, pete. sara. >> butterfly in the sky, i think is how that one started. john. all right. americans are more stressed out than ever. according to gallup polling, the most recent data shows that nearly half of all americans, 49%, say they frequently experience stress. but what if a simple
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trick could take some of that stress away? one of the most followed and sought after experts in mindset, behavior change and life improvement says the answer lies in two words let them. we sat down with the award winning podcast host and new york times bestselling author mel robbins. >> i do believe with my entire heart and every cell in my body, that you're one decision away from a different life. >> mel robbins knows this because that is how she changed her entire adult life. she's now the number one female podcaster in the world, and a new york times bestselling author. first of all, this is kind of a full circle for you. welcome back to cnn. >> well, thank you. i don't think a lot of people realize that. follow me. now that i actually spent three years as a legal analyst here. >> i mean, i remember seeing you on tv and here you are. you went to law school, you passed
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the bar, you were a lawyer, and you managed to get a tv gig, and you weren't happy when i landed a job at cnn. >> what was happening in my personal life is not what you saw on television. what was happening in my personal life is that my husband and i were about $800,000 in debt. i was going back home to a house that had liens on it, and a phone that was ringing off the hook with debt collectors calling because, you know, they're asking for money. >> i'm literally getting anxious listening to this. >> i responded to the crisis in my life by avoiding doing anything. and so i found myself like chronically hitting the snooze button four or 5 or 6 times a day. my kids were the ones that were waking me up because i had. they had missed the bus, and i became a person that i didn't recognize. >> what was it that sort of lifted you out of bed?
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>> um, it was just this dumb trick. i literally just started counting backwards. five, four, three, two, one. and i stood up and that one technique of counting backwards five, four, three, two, one changed my whole life. the decision to get out of bed that turned my life in an entirely new direction. and it's the initial domino that falls. and that's why i say you're one decision away from a different life. >> it's a technique. she wrote a book about, and it's backed by science. by giving your brain a different pattern to use than the destructive one. her latest book is starting a revolution of the mind, the let them. theory is so effective. people around the world are tattooing the theory on their bodies. >> i was the person that was off in the grocery store, stressed out and gripping the steering wheel, annoyed by inconsiderate behavior. bother, you know, like bending over
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backwards because people made me feel guilty just playing into narcissistic personality styles just over and over and over, trying to make other people happy, trying to change other people, controlling other people's because they thought it would make me feel better. like just exhausting. and when i stumbled onto these two words, let them. while i was micromanaging my son at his high school prom, and her daughter was the one who uttered the two simple words to her. what i learned in researching the leitholm theory is this that when we have an opinion about, worry about, or try to pressure someone else to change, we don't motivate them based on neurology and based on the science. you actually create resistance to changing and here's why. >> so you're making it worse. >> you're making it way worse. i'm going to teach you how to use this theory. it's going to make your relationships way better. and it's also going to make you more effective because you cannot change somebody else. but i never said you
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couldn't influence them. and we're going to use science. so the first thing you have to say is let them let them fail. let them struggle, let them get bad grades, let them lose that job. let them put on more weight. because when you say, let them to, a number of things are happening that are really important. number one, you're actually seeing and accepting a person exactly as they are and exactly as they aren't. maybe for the very first time. second thing you're doing when you say let them is you are recognizing that this situation and this person's behavior right now is completely outside of my control. therefore, why on earth would i waste any time and energy trying to control something that i cannot control? >> but it does not end with let them. there is a second. part, robbins calls. let me. when you say let them. my first reaction when i, when i saw the cover of the book was like, so you're just going to let people do
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everything they want to do, walk all over you, just go like, oh, i surrender. >> you're already doing that. >> damn. >> see, you're already doing that. and then about it and then aiming it back at yourself. the let them theory is a power move because you're letting people reveal who they are and who they're not. you're letting them reveal through their behavior what their priorities are and where you stand when you let somebody reveal who they are, let them. and then you go, let me remind myself that my relationships are my responsibility. let me remind myself that i get to choose how much time and energy i pour into another person, or a business meeting, or an interview, or a date, or a conversation, or a text chain. >> you have to say it a lot. in some instances, okay, all the time, especially with family. >> yeah, that's especially with family. it will change your family profoundly for the better. >> look, i tried this let them idea and it did have an effect on me. i sort of realized how much i was trying to con
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