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right security minister now calling on allies to stop this deal. we're following these major developing stories and many more, all coming in right here to cnn news central. hello. i'm brianna keilar. boris is off today. and in a little bit more than 34 hours, tiktok will officially be banned here in the u.s., and the supreme court is not going to stop it, as tiktok had hoped for its 170 million users in the u.s. this morning. the uph sided with the government and the national security concerns. chinese ownership. but it's possible the app may not actually go dark on sunday. and that's because the biden administration does not plan to enforce the ban, according to white house officials. instead, they say it will be left for the incoming trump administration to implement the law. and donald trump has said in the past that he wants to
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save tiktok, despite calling for a ban during his first presidency, which the justices mentioned in their ruling today. cnn media correspondent hadas gold is on this story. hadas, i know tiktok just responded. what are they saying? >> yeah, just in the last few minutes, we finally got a response from tiktok. this was in the form of a tiktok video from its ceo, shou chew. he doesn't say exactly what's going to happen to tiktok, but he does allude that things are going on behind the scenes, and he thanks president elect trump repeatedly. take a listen. >> constitutional right to free speech for the more than 170 million americans who use our platform every day to connect, create, discover and achieve their dreams. on behalf of everyone at tiktok and all our users across the country, i want to thank president trump for his commitment to work with us to find a solution that keeps tiktok available in the united states. this is a strong stand for the first
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amendment and against arbitrary censorship. as we've said, tiktok is a place where people can create communities, discover new interests, and express themselves, including over 7 million american businesses who earn a living and gain new customers using our platform. >> now, later on in that video, brianna, he does what i think is a very clear message and catered to president elect trump, where he highlights that trump himself uses the platform and has more than 60 billion views of his content. he says that they will do everything in their power to ensure the platform thrives, and he ends the video with more to come, alluding that there is something going on behind the scenes, something that they're working on. he doesn't say what it is. and notably, brianna, he doesn't say to the users what is going to happen to their app if they try to open it on sunday. >> and so what's going to happen at midnight? i mean, do we have any idea? do we know what trump is going to do on monday? >> we don't know exactly what the president elect is going to do. he says that he's going to work on it. but for the users
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who are going to try to open tiktok on sunday, there's a few possibilities of what will happen. now. first of all, this law actually applies to the app stores and the cloud service providers. it's not actually about bytedance. so even if the app still lives on your phone, which is very possible, you might still be able to open it. it might be glitchy, it might be buggy. and that's because the behind the scenes of the networks and the information data flow might have to go to a different cloud service providers. and over time, if you can't update your app from the app store, it's going to get glitchy and buggy. but there is actually reporting from other outlets that are saying that tiktok might actually sort of shut itself down. they might put up a pop up that explains to users what is happening about this ban, and maybe give them an option to download their tiktok. but when you go on tiktok right now, brianna, it is just full of videos of creators lamenting this ban, being angry, talking about what they plan to do next, trying to convince their followers to go to other platforms because for a lot of these creators, this is their livelihood. and brianna, there
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is tens of millions, if not hundreds of millions of dollars worth of advertisements that are funneled through tiktok. so this is also a big business story as well as a big legal and political story. >> yeah, it's an industry. hadas gold, thank you so much for the report. i know a lot of people are curious about what's going to happen today. president-elect trump's pick to lead the department of homeland security. that would be south dakota governor kristi noem faced questions from senators at her confirmation hearing. if confirmed, noem would be leading a sprawling agency which would include overseeing fema and the nation's complex immigration system. during her hearing, noem described the u.s. southern border as a war zone, and she vowed to vowed to enforce a flurry of executive orders on immigration, which trump is expected to release moments after taking office. >> will you work with president trump to reinstate the remain in mexico program that the president had in place in his first term, which does so much to ensure that those who would seek to abuse our asylum system are not allowed into the country, and those who have
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legitimate asylum claims, their claims are processed in due order and in due course. but they wait in mexico until those claims are fully processed. will you work to reinstate that program? yes, senator. >> the president and i have talked extensively about this and will 100% partner with him to reinstate the the remain in mexico policy and make sure that it's in place. >> so we're told that trump's team is finalizing deportation plans, one source telling cnn, quote, you will see removal plans, reports of arrests occurring, ice action in sanctuary jurisdictions as you get into 30 days and first 100 days, that's where you'll see a consistent drumbeat. cnn's priscilla alvarez is with us now with some of her reporting on this. we also have cnn chief national affairs correspondent jeff zeleny. let's start with you, priscilla, because you're learning a lot about trump's day one plans on immigration. >> yeah. and the 30 to 60 day or 30 to 100 day drumbeat that that source was telling me about. it gives you a sense that it's going to take time for them to ramp up when it
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comes to the detention and deportation of undocumented immigrants. but all the same, they are preparing all of these executive actions to make an aggressive push on immigration. just within hours of the president elect being sworn in. and it falls really in three buckets interior enforcement, ice sweeps, and major metropolitan areas, areas where they know that immigrants have gone to reside. and making a point about those sanctuary jurisdictions, those are those that limit cooperation with federal immigration enforcement and ones that the incoming borders are tom homan has often criticized. now, the other bucket here is the border. the border is actually relatively quiet right now, but they want to sign the national emergency declaration and get pentagon resources down to the u.s. southern border. the remain in mexico policy. well, that requires mexico to buy in. but they want this executive action would essentially launch those negotiations. and the third is legal immigration, the travel ban that president joe biden pulled back. well, it's going to make a comeback. now, sources tell me they're still weighing who exactly is going
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to encompass. but these, when you take them all together, mark a dramatic shift in u.s. immigration policy goes without saying. yet again, this happened also four years ago when president joe biden pulled back trump's immigration plan. but what was most noteworthy about the confirmation hearing today that, of course, kristi noem received many questions about the immigration agenda is who is actually in charge this time around? trump has a border czar, and that is tom homan. he has a direct line to the president, and she described it in questioning with senator kent. take a listen. >> will he be giving orders directly to cbp, ice? >> uscis, the tom homan has a direct line to the president. he is an advisor to the president. the border czar. i obviously will be, if nominated and confirmed and put into the position of being the department of homeland security secretary and responsible for the authorities that we have and the actions that we take. >> now, that is a dynamic that, again, is unique to this second
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trump term. of course, trump had a lot of tension and friction with his other homeland security secretaries. i covered many of them in the first term. so we'll see how this all unfolds. she is expected to have a more limited scope on immigration, but all of the same, these executive actions do have to be implemented by the department of homeland security. so we'll see how that plays out. >> and as we get an idea of how this is going to play out, tom homan so important. we should note he has vowed to bring back family detention centers. he led trump's family separation policy during the first administration. there are a lot of logistics here, jeff, but there's also the politics and the optics of this, without question and tom homan, of course, is someone who does not require senate confirmation, as you were saying. so that is perhaps the biggest factor of all here. >> you said you covered several homeland security secretaries. >> that is such a key point, because in the first trump administration, it was a revolving door, starting with john kelly and going on from there. >> that's not the case this time. >> this is one more example of the president elect, soon to be
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president, knowing exactly what he wants to do and knowing sort of more how to accomplish it by getting around some of the confirmations and things, by having the border czar. so this is going to start much faster. >> but the optics remain the same. >> the optics remain sort of challenging. >> so we will see what the president sort of has the stomach for. >> but i think he owes his base. he owes people who voted for it a lot. so i think this is going to be one of the biggest changes that we're going to see from the 46 to the 47th president, but we still don't know exactly how fast it will be and what it will look like. but tom homan is someone who's going to be a household name. he worked in the obama administration. you've covered him for a long time, but he does not apologize for family separations. >> yeah, it's going to be very interesting. we know you both will be watching very carefully. priscilla and jeff, thank you for your reports. i want to talk more now about this with john sandweg, former acting director of u.s. immigration and customs enforcement.
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john, what do you make of noam's testimony? >> you know, brianna, we heard a lot of the same. and i think what, you know, i think is interesting is the justification for all of this. and immigration enforcement, especially the mass deportation side of this, is public safety. but the tactics that she's talking about are really not ones designed to promote public safety. right. worksite raids, for instance. i think she mentioned it's come out that they're going to reinstitute worksite raids, but you don't go to meatpacking plants and and farm sites to find transnational gang members, right? they don't punch a clock and take a regular job. they make their living off, you know, working for drug cartels, things of that nature. and so my point is that, you know, in the populations, they say they're going to focus on this. people have been ordered removed but didn't actually leave the country. that is a population that didn't, you know, was not detained because somebody, whether ice or an immigration judge, decided they didn't pose a threat to public safety. they had no criminal history. they probably been here a long time and u.s. citizen relatives. so i guess what i'm saying is there remains this disconnect between the stated basis of all of this, which is promoting public
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safety in the united states and the tactics and the operations and the the policies, which really are not geared towards apprehending those people who pose a threat or committing crimes in our country. >> so then what is the goal then, as you see it? >> well, i guess it's mass deportation. and i think what happens is that that can be politically unpopular. listen, there's a reason, brianna, that when, you know, during the obama administration, during the bush administration, and even during the first trump administration, you tend to focus on populations who've committed criminal offenses for a couple of reasons. one is obviously, that's good policy, right? use i.c.e .'s limited resources to focus on those individuals who pose a threat. but look, let me be honest, too. there's a political element to this, too. when you start focusing on people who've been here a long time, who've had u.s. citizen children, that is very difficult. that is politically sensitive. you face bipartisan criticism. and what will be interesting to me to see how the public reacts to this when these policies come into force, because let's make no mistake about it, that's who they're zeroing in on these populations. you know, people, like you said, the low hanging
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fruit of the system, people have been ordered deported but didn't leave. and again, that means it's a population that was not detained, which means somebody, somewhere has decided that that person doesn't pose a threat to public safety. and, brianna, more often than not, those are the people who've been here a long time and have u.s. citizen family members. >> john, how do you see the ramping up process taking place? because there aren't enough beds. there isn't the capacity to hold the undocumented migrants in the number that trump wants to detain. did she adequately address that? and what do you expect this to look like? >> yeah, it's going to be real. it's going to be really interesting, right? ice currently is funded for about 40,000 detention beds. ice. you know, most of that is outsourced to private detention companies. but the kinds of things they're talking about, you know, and even the the lincoln riley bill took another step towards passage today. right. and that includes additional mandates, you know, additional populations where congress has mandated ice must obtain these people. but the kind of numbers the trump administration is talking about, they're going to need
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hundreds of thousands of beds, you know, four, five, six times what ice is currently funded for. brianna, there is no funding for that at the moment. there might be lower. you know, but i think that's where they're talking about tapping into military resources. so again, as best i can tell, the transition has been very tight lipped about their plans. but yeah, i think they're going to be looking at low cost fast to quick quickly to open, you know, camp style detention centers on military bases. that's really the only possible way they could do this. just very quickly. like even if they were funded money and they want to build traditional detention centers, it would take years to build those. right? it just takes years to kind of construct the facilities, get all the staffing in place and everything else. so obviously they have to be thinking a much faster solution. and i do think that means camps probably on, on or, you know, connected to the military. >> and noam says that she will shut down the cbp one app, which is the tool the biden administration put in place to keep people from coming to the border. it's kind of like a virtual queue because of concerns
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over fraudulent addresses, among other things. what effect could that have intended or unintended? >> yeah, i think the real interesting thing is all the things he's going to do at the border, and i expect him to do that on day one, right. get rid of the cbp, one app. maybe, maybe there's going to be a new title 42 but or remain in mexico. i think the unintended consequence that we need to keep an eye out for all of this is we're going to see a return to the tactics of the border that we really saw before this asylum crisis began. so, you know, what the smugglers have been doing is coaching these people to walk across and surrender to the nearest border patrol agent. and while that created these terrible images, and while certainly it overwhelmed our asylum system, the good news, brianna, is we knew who the people are. we got biometrics. we were able to interview them. right. if the biometrics came back to national security concerns or, you know, from information we get internationally about criminal offenses, we can detain those people. but we knew who was coming into our country. and there's a significant security benefit to that. i think what we're going to see, and i think what we all need to be on guard for, is a return to people sneaking into the country right where they
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instead of surrendering to the border patrol, they try to evade capture. and i just think there's no doubt that the smugglers are just going to shift the tactics away from once trump basically, you know, through executive order, eliminates asylum. people are going to start crossing that border again, evading capture, going through remote areas of the desert. it's going to be a real challenge because it's going to be a real shift for the border patrol. back to the tactics we saw really up until 2016. >> john sandweg, thank you so much. we appreciate your insights. >> thank you. >> president elect trump confirming his inauguration has is going to be moved indoors because of just how brutally cold the weather is expected to be here in d.c. on monday. in a post on truth social, the president-elect says both the swearing in and the inaugural inaugural address will take place in the capitol rotunda. later, he'll be moving over to the capital one arena for the presidential parade that also not taking place outside. and this isn't the first time that this has happened. president
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ronald reagan's inauguration was held also inside the capitol rotunda because of weather meteorologist derek van dam is in the cnn weather center. derek, i have to tell you, i've been watching the forecast because i was assigned to be outside on monday for coverage and wow, it was it was looking cold. and that's without considering how much colder it would feel. >> okay, consider this a blessing in disguise then, right? brianna? >> and also a huge, significant logistical development for the nation's capital. we have to go back the four decades. the last time this happened, you just showed the footage of reagan being sworn in and inside of the rotunda. yeah, that's when temperatures were seven degrees. a balmy seven degrees. right? that is significant. but you know what? it's not going to be that cold on monday. but the wind chill will make it feel like it will be that cold. so that's what authorities are warning people about. anyone
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who's attending these outdoor functions, the outdoor events in and around the d.c. area are going to be impacted by this arctic blast, which, by the way, sometimes is the coldest air we've seen in 1 to 2 years, depending on the exact location. so it's significant to make matters more complicated, we'll get a blast of snowfall sunday into early monday morning that will coat the mid-atlantic and the northeastern region with a new, fresh layer of snow. so it's really going to lock in this cold air. and when you factor in the winds that will be gusting out of the northwest at 2020 five miles per hour, it will drop those wind chill values down into the single digits. that is bone chilling cold. not a casual cold, brianna, but a dangerous cold. back to you. yeah, so freezing. >> it makes sense, but it's quite the change. derek van dam, thank you for that. as i mentioned, i will be co-anchoring inauguration day coverage. you can join us as history unfolds live on cnn. as the 45th president becomes the 47th. that will start live
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the biden administration wants this ban to proceed. but there's this one day overlap. they're not going to enforce it while they're waiting for trump to take power. >> yeah. look at the the issue is this 170 million americans use tiktok. 7 million american businesses use tiktok all across southern california right now, there are angelenos building new communities, trying to keep their small businesses alive. >> if this goes dark, the consequences are catastrophic for communities not just in los angeles, but all across our nation. >> so this is the challenge. so president biden gave a little bit of breathing room. >> but remember, the fine and the companies that will be fined oracle, apple, google. >> the fine is $800 billion for a violation of the law. so i've been calling for more time. we need to, in fact, ensure that tiktok is just not shut down on
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sunday. i brought my bill out onto the floor. unanimous consent. republicans objected. but the interesting thing is that president trump and i, a liberal democrat from massachusetts, agree on this issue. we have to find a way to keep tiktok alive, and my goal is to create the space where that time can be used to get a resolution of this issue. >> do you have faith that they can make progress to wall themselves off from their chinese parent company? or do you think this really is a matter of selling to a non-chinese? owner? >> i don't know what the final solution is, but here's what i do know. >> this law passed 270 days ago. >> the supreme court issued their decision this morning, two days before the ban goes into effect. so that's not enough time to figure out what you do.
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>> if the law is held to be constitutional, if it was held to be unconstitutional, we wouldn't even be having this conversation. >> but it took 268 days to get the answer. and so as a result, we need to have that discussion. and there are a number of different ways in which this issue can be resolved. it keeps tiktok alive for those communities that are out there that need it, but it would just be absolutely irresponsible to have it go dark. and so to the extent to which we can create more time, there's actually room in the statute interpreted very liberally, that could give 90 more days for president trump to be able to negotiate a resolution of this issue, but under no circumstances should this be allowed to result in tiktok going dark on sunday or monday. >> okay, so our president elect trump told our pam brown quote, you're going to see what i'm going to do and that he's going to, quote, be making the decision on whether to reverse
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the ban. you're familiar, though, with where he is on this, and it does seem that he is inclined to. do you feel like there is that breathing room already? >> well, it's heading in that direction, but i don't know. that's why we need more time. we need more time in order to do this. by the way, there was no debate on the senate floor. there was no expert evidence that was ever presented. this just happened in a must pass bill. and the language was stuck in. so we've never actually had the national discussion about what all of the options are. >> and certainly the biden administration felt that there was a national security imperative here. a lot of experts believe that to be the case. this is a discussion that has been going on certainly for years at least. this topic, there's a 90. this issue of a 90 day reprieve, though, that that doesn't necessarily solve the issue of finding a buyer. and it's a very unconventional way for a company to spin off, right, to have that kind of deadline there. elon musk has
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been floated as one possibility. would he be acceptable to you? >> there was a very significant offer put on the table just last week by project liberty to purchase tiktok. elon musk may be interested, others may be interested, but we need more time in order to find out. now on elon musk. would he? obviously. obviously, if he's considering doing to tiktok what he did to twitter, that would be absolutely terrible. and so that's not necessarily, however, what the outcome is going to be. no one knows what the outcome is going to be because we haven't had the time to have the discussion, to have all of the negotiations, including with tiktok. so we can deal in speculation about what might happen. and there are many options. there are many different ways to solve this problem, but until we get the extra time, until we keep tiktok alive for the 170
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million americans who are in community right now, then we don't have any options to provide for that site. tiktok to continue operation. >> is this something that democrats could have weighed in better on when they were in power in the senate on the day that the ban was included in the ukraine? >> israel humanitarian relief bill? i got on the floor of the senate that day, 268 days ago, to say it's a mistake. this issue is too important. this is going to explode later on because we didn't give it the time, which it deserved. so i weighed in immediately. on day one, i tried in this past week to have a bill passed that could give more time. i actually filed a brief, an amicus brief in the supreme court with ro khanna and senator wyden. senator booker, in order to delay. but at this point, we're up
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against this sunday deadline, and we just have to get more time. and there may be room statutorily in this in this existing law to give a little bit of wiggle room for president trump to be able to extend the deadline and begin a real negotiation, a real discussion about the best way to move forward, but to keep tiktok alive. >> yeah, i think we'll see what that looks like here very soon. senator markey, thanks for being with us. >> great to be with you next. >> israel's full cabinet is about to vote on the cease fire hostage deal with hamas. we have some new details about that agreement. and several january 6th rioters were sentenced in a d.c. court this morning. but could they be just days away from getting pardons? >> you know what's smart? enjoying a fresh, gourmet meal at home that you didn't have to cook? upgrade your plate with factor. chef crafted dietitian approved. ready in two minutes. eat smart with factor one, a
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>> 808 two one 4000. >> we are following the developing story in the middle east. the full israeli cabinet is meeting at this hour to vote on a gaza ceasefire. and hostage deal. and if this is approved, as expected, 33 hostages could start being released as early as sunday here, just in two days in exchange for hundreds of palestinian prisoners. the agreement has already been approved by the israeli security council, and it also calls for a cease fire for 42 days. it would be the first reprieve for the people of gaza after more than 15 months of relentless bombings by israeli forces. i'm joined now by mark esper. he, of course, served as defense secretary under president trump. he is a cnn global affairs analyst, and he does serve on the board or is a strategic advisor for a few aerospace and defense companies. secretary, how do you see this moment? >> well, good afternoon brianna. look, it's a great moment for the hostages and their families. hopefully in the next couple of days, we'll
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see 33 living hostages go home. that leaves, we think, 60 or so remaining, half of half of half of them probably deceased, which is tragic. but i think it's good news on that front. my concern is on the security side of this, it doesn't really resolve what the issue will be after the end of six weeks. we don't know. >> or at least we haven't been told what will happen if this agreement follows through. who will control gaza? who will govern it? >> who will police it, who will provide public services? and what will the role of the israeli military be in that context? and both hamas and israel have very stark differences on this issue, which is which is why i'm kind of skeptical that that will actually see peace at the end of six weeks. >> so no doubt, i mean, those are the stickiest of issues. and we should note for people not familiar with the deal, that these hostages are being released a few at a time each week. and the negotiations on that second phase begin 16 days into this. so you actually have this kind of overlapping if things don't go well in those
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negotiations, is that going to endanger the release, the initial release of these hostages? i think a lot of people have questions about that. but i do want to ask you, because the issues being sticky matter, but so too does the pressure on the the folks at the table here. and one of our analyst, beth saner, her analysis yesterday was that hamas is on board because they believe that netanyahu that israel will see these negotiations through because trump will pressure them to do so. i wonder what you think about that in terms of that relationship between trump and netanyahu? >> yeah, there are a number of pressures here. first of all, would be the domestic pressure from the hostage families and and israelis writ large. who wants that spigot starts with with hostages coming home and the homecomings and everything else and the stories that will be told that will be tremendous pressure to continue the release of hostages. and as you note, brianna, doing so means
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that that israel will have to put more on the table with regard to the extraction of israeli troops and answer the bigger question of what happens at the end of those six weeks. and then, of course, there is the trump factor there as well, is he does not want this dragging on into his tenure. he wants to focus on some domestic issues that he's already spoken about. so there is that pressure there from trump that biden certainly doesn't have at this point in time. and then, of course, though, there are competing pressures, is from the far right within israel, particularly in his cabinet. is will they hold firm? will, will, uh bibi netanyahu lose control of his coalition? that doesn't seem likely right now, but we have to see how this drags on and drags out over the coming, you know, few weeks. >> it's such a good question because he has so much opposition from right wing members of his cabinet who he depends on, even as israelis are supporting this deal. you know, certainly at this moment. i wonder how you see the next phase, because, as you mentioned, these are the civilian hostages who are going to be coming out in the first
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phase. i wonder what you think it looks like. and i think of people like edan alexander, who is an israeli american, a member of the idf. how you think it will look to get those folks who were in the idf out in a in another phase? >> yeah. look, it'll be tremendous to get them all out. and because they've been held now for, what, 15, 16 months under horrible conditions and under the threat of being killed on a daily basis. as i said earlier, of those 99 or so hostages remaining, we think about a third of them are probably dead. so it would be good to get for those families to get the remains of their loved ones home. uh, but again, that's getting all those persons home means that israelis are going to israel is going to have to compromise on security. are they going to back away from controlling the the rafah egypt border in the philadelphia corridor? will they, uh, be allowed to create a larger buffer zone in northern gaza? and again, the questions i have is who's going to govern? it's hard to see israel allowing hamas to return
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to power in gaza. that just leaves them back to where they began. hamas has been rebuilding its ranks with new recruits, and they have not ever retracted the valve trying to get rid of the israeli state. so the question is, will be, is there a third solution here where maybe arab states or european partners, or maybe if everybody can agree that the palestinian authority comes in and runs gaza? i don't know, but that to me, that's the outstanding question because it's hard to see bibi netanyahu and many israelis being comfortable with hamas taking control again of gaza. >> and just real quick, before i let you go, secretary, once hostilities stop and the people of gaza are not facing that unrelenting bombardment, will that put pressure on hamas internally? >> yeah, i think so. you know, there are a number of things that happened here over the last several months that caused
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this to come about. first of all, the killing of yahya sinwar, the the decimation of hezbollah. i mean, all things pointed to things going in the wrong direction for hamas. but one of the other factors was growing public discontent in gaza with hamas. and and so the question will be is if this deal comes about, will they will they view. will hamas be treated better for coming at this deal after 15 months? and if they if they don't play along, will the people of gaza turn back around on them? that's a big unknown, because in any type of insurgency, which is what israel is going to face in the coming months and maybe longer, it depends on the support of the people by supporting them in gaza and i might add, importantly, iran as well. that's a whole nother discussion about iran's role here. but that will be an important point to to see, brianna, is will the people of gaza support hamas? >> yeah. amazing to think we may see hostages coming home here in just a couple of days. secretary esper, thank you so
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that these january 6th cases, the nonviolent offenders, potentially the violent offenders, potentially even the seditious conspirators from the oath keepers, the proud boys, that they could be pardoned in just a few days when donald trump takes office. and that is reverberating in these hearings. so it's been a busy day, this last day that the judges are hearing these cases from january 6th, potentially, if trump pardons many of them, there are about ten people that are being sentenced today and they represent the wide swath of what the violence looked like on january 6th. >> there are people that assaulted officers, people that had chemical sprays on them, wasp and hornet sprays, spraying officers in the crowd during the riot, people smashing windows. one person who took michael fanone by the neck and pulled him out of the crowd. that's the metropolitan police officer who was so severely injured during that
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