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something that has not happened in 40 years. we are following these major developing stories and many more, all coming in right here to cnn news central. as many as 170 million users are watching the clock on tiktok in the u.s. in about 32 hours. it's supposed to be outlawed by a bipartisan law. the supreme court upheld that ban today. they sided with the u.s. government over national security concerns. if the app stays under chinese ownership. but today, the biden administration signaled it's not going to enforce the ban come sunday, leaving it to the next administration, which, of course, takes power on monday. here's president biden a short time ago. >> what's your take on the tiktok decision today, sir? well, anyway, so i think it will work well, the next
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president, donald trump, has been working on an executive order to delay the ban. >> according to sources, the president elect posting today that he spoke with chinese president xi about the app, which he actually wanted to ban himself at one point, tiktok ceo is already showing his gratitude with, of course, a tiktok video. >> i want to thank president trump for his commitment to work with us to find a solution that keeps tiktok available in the united states. we are grateful and pleased to have the support of a president who truly understands our platform. one who has used tiktok to express his own thoughts and perspectives, connecting with the world and generating more than 60 billion views of his content in the process. >> let's turn now to cnn chief media analyst brian stelter. okay, brian, here's the thing. what happens on sunday when people click on the tiktok icon on their phone?
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>> initially, at least until a few hours ago, my impression was that the apple app store or the google app store would have to remove the tiktok app. so if you wanted to download it for the first time, you couldn't. if you still already have the app on your phone, it would just continue to function like normal. but like a car that's running out of gas, it would start to break down and stop functioning over time. however, i've changed my thought on this in the last few hours. now that the biden administration has said they're not going to enforce the law on sunday, i don't think users are going to see a change on sunday unless bytedance, the owner of tiktok, wants to send a message by telling its users, hey, this app is in trouble. americans are trying to shut us down. take action, pressure your politicians. but frankly, they've already achieved that through lobbying action through influencers. tiktok has pressured politicians, including trump, and seems to be winning. they seem to have the wind at their backs right now as they try to get this ban reversed. so, you know, it is possible there could be several different outcomes on sunday and monday. but i think for the
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time being, because trump has signaled that he wants to negotiate some way out of this user's experience will probably not change this weekend. >> so how does that work? because trump told our pamela brown this morning he'll be making the decision on tiktok. he's signaling that, as you said, how might he stop it from being banned? or does he just sort of like buy it time? >> yeah. find an american buyer and then convince the chinese owners to sell it to that american buyer? let someone like, let's think of someone who's close to trump, maybe elon musk. you know, there are already bids out there from frank mccourt and kevin o'leary, for example, o'leary of shark tank fame has been on this network talking about his bid for tiktok. the issue has been that bytedance, the chinese owners, do not want to sell. that's what they've said all along. they do not want to give up. any part of tiktok. will that change under president trump? will he have more persuasive powers? will he come at this differently? that's a big question. what we know is that this is all happening because of trump five years ago calling for a ban.
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and the reason that congress enacted this law and wanted it to go into effect on sunday was precisely to avoid a situation where trump would try to repeal it. right. this law's timing was on purpose before the inauguration, but now it seems a lot of democrats don't want to take the blame for this biden, chuck schumer. they don't want to be blamed for tiktok going down. and so this is being punted to trump. and i think we know one thing for sure. trump cares deeply about his popularity. he loves knowing that he has lots of fans on tiktok. he's been crediting tiktok with helping him win reelection, so he seems to have a real change of heart about tiktok, partly for personal reasons. >> yeah, it also seems that china can benefit from a bunch of disgruntled americans who are mad that tiktok is banned, that there's a bit of a win win there, too. but i wonder if it is banned and you start seeing people. you know, we've been talking to content creators and they gravitate towards other apps. what do you think about some of these other apps that have gained popularity? >> it's a little bit like going from broadcast tv with
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only three channels to cable tv with 300. they're not going to be any one winner. if tiktok does disappear in the u.s., there will be a number of different apps. right now it's startups, mostly chinese owned startups that are winning the race. if you look at the apple app store, look on your phone right now, look at the top three apps. you'll see mostly chinese owned apps, including one from bytedance. you'll also see startups like flip that i frankly had not heard of a week ago that are trying to capitalize on this. there are lots of different flavors, but there's no one tiktok alternative. here's the thing i've noticed when i look at these alternatives, when i look at the conversations about this, this law and about the national security concerns, the politicians and the experts who say that tiktok is a threat, who are concerned about china's influence. their voices are barely being heard right now. you know, their voices are missing from the conversation. they're certainly not showing up in your tiktok feed. so it seems to me the people that are calling for this ban to be reversed are winning in the public conversation. the people that had real national security concerns, they seem to be losing right now. >> yeah, it would be interesting if people do end up
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going towards other apps. it's sort of like out of the fire into a bunch of different frying pans. and how is that going to work? brian, thank you so much. it's really interesting to see how this is going to play out. so today is wrapping up a week long blitz of confirmation hearings for key members of president elect trump's incoming administration. senate republican leaders are expressing hope that they'll be able to vote to confirm some of trump's top national security nominees on inauguration day, including secretary of state pick marco rubio. earlier today, trump's choice to lead the department of homeland security. south dakota governor kristi noem said that if she is confirmed, she would fulfill trump's plans to crack down on immigration. here's her exchange with missouri senator josh hawley. >> is the southern border secure as we find it today? >> senator? no, the southern border is not secure today. but in just three days, we will have a new president in this country, president donald j. trump and he will secure our
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border. my hope is that if given the opportunity to serve as secretary, that the federal government would no longer. and i believe, as president trump has promised, the american people facilitate an illegal alien invasion. >> with us now is cnn's priscilla alvarez. it's interesting to hear how she's describing this, because crossings are down. but there's also this emphasis, and you have a lot of new reporting on this about what trump is going to be doing from day one. nonetheless, on the border. >> yeah. her responses there were telling in the way that she's going to frame this moving forward, even as to your point, numbers are very low, lower than they have been in a while now. yes, there is a package of executive actions that they are working to roll out within hours of the president elect being sworn in, and they really fall into three buckets. so interior enforcement, we heard this a lot on the campaign trail about the mass deportation. well, it starts somewhere and it would start, according to the sources i've spoken with, with ice sweeps in major metropolitan areas. that is because that's
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where migrants have gravitated toward. that is where they have seen an influx of migrants over recent years. so think denver, chicago also places that the incoming border czar, tom homan, has verbally sparred with publicly. then there's sort of the bucket of the border. and the border includes the national emergency declaration to shore up more pentagon resources along the u.s. southern border, more asylum restrictions, even though there are some that are already in place. and then the third is more focused on a legal on legal immigration. so the travel ban issuing, which would ban some people from coming to the united states. now, of course, who exactly that is and how it would play out. unclear, but i'm told not to anticipate sort of the airport chaos that we saw in 2017. they know a lot more as to how they can implement this agenda. and speaking of implementing, of course, kristi noem, if she is confirmed, would be the one at the helm of the department of homeland security, which houses the immigration enforcement agencies. but in that confirmation hearing, she got a
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question from senator kim, who said, you're sending some mixed signals because there's also tom homan the border czar at the white house. take a listen. >> will he be giving orders directly to cbp ice? >> uscis tom homan has a direct line to the president. he is an advisor to the president. the border czar. i obviously will be, if nominated and confirmed and put into the position of being the department of homeland security secretary and responsible for the authorities that we have and the actions that we take. >> so that will be a new dynamic to watch in the incoming administration, not something that we saw the first time around. but a reminder, brianna, that the department of homeland security, as you know, is sprawling. it is very big. it is not just immigration. so if she is confirmed, she'll have a lot on her plate. >> yeah. so many objectives there, priscilla. thank you. really appreciate it here. in just three days, president-elect trump will be officially sworn into office. but there's been a last minute change to his inauguration plans and it is a big one. trump announcing today the events will be moved indoors
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because of what is i mean, a frigid weather forecast for monday, the last time that a presidential inauguration was moved inside because of freezing temperatures, was back in 1985 for president ronald reagan's second inauguration. he took the oath of office. as you see here in the capitol rotunda. cnn reporter alayna treene is joining us live from florida, where this would not be a problem if there is an inauguration held in florida. elena, what a change. and, you know, we should note it was expected to be in the low 20s, but with wind chill we were looking at single digits here in washington. so cold, leading to a change of these plans. >> now that's exactly right. and when i talked to dond trump's team and we had learned earlier this morning as well, before trump had officially announced this, that they were planning to do this, and when i talked to them, it was because they argued that there are some serious health concerns. they did not want people catching hypothermia. one adviser told me, i mean, as you mentioned, yes. you know,
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in the 20 degrees, maybe even getting down to 11, but with those, you know, 20 to 30 mile per hour winds that are expected on monday, it would feel much colder. and again, there are hundreds of thousands of people who are planning to descend on washington, d.c., to go to the national mall and stand out there to witness donald trump and jd vance being sworn into office. but because of that, that means that they would also be out there for several hours on end, also increasing some of the concerns and the safety risks that the team had. now, what we know is that donald trump and vance are going to be now sworn in inside the capitol rotunda. i will note that that space i've spent a lot of time there is far smaller than what they were anticipating, and so there is definitely going to have to be some decisions made about who will actually get to be in that area and in that space. but this was, of course, something that they weren't anticipating, especially when you keep in mind, brianna, that donald trump really wants his inauguration to be this massive event, global event. he's
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invited global and world leaders. he's invited the heads of tiktok and facebook and meta, excuse me and amazon. so this is different from what they were anticipating. so not what they were expecting. but yes, inauguration now is going to be inside a big change from those original plans. brianna. >> yeah, certainly is. alayna treene live for us from florida. thank you so much. and still to come one step closer, the israeli security cabinet approving the gaza ceasefire and hostage deal, the full cabinet is reportedly meeting right now. they still need to sign off. plus, working to save jobs from the so-called department of government efficiency. how some federal worker workers are quietly editing job descriptions and performance reviews. and later, tens of thousands of people are still under evacuation notices in california as firefighters make gains against the palisades fire and the eaton fire. we have that and much more coming up on cnn news
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is with us now from tel aviv. and, jeremy, tell us what we know about where this critical vote is right now well, that cabinet meeting is indeed underway, and it could be underway for quite some time. >> every single minister in the government gets to have their say before they cast their vote. and that is the process that we believe is now underway. but there is really very little question about what the outcome of this vote will be. the israeli prime minister does indeed have the numbers in order for this cease fire agreement, to get the official stamp of approval of the israeli government via this vote from the full cabinet. earlier today, we saw the security cabinet, a smaller group of ministers, approve this agreement, despite the fact that there are these key defections from two far right ministers in netanyahu's governing coalition, the national security minister, itamar ben-gvir, who has said that he will leave the government coalition altogether if indeed this cease fire agreement passes the government vote and then bezalel smotrich, the finance minister who has
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instead sought assurances from the israeli prime minister that israel will go back to war at the end of this six week ceasefire. and so it appears that, at least for now, everything is on track for this deal to be approved and for the ceasefire to go into effect this coming sunday. if indeed that happens, we will see three female civilian israeli hostages be released from gaza sometime as early as sunday afternoon. they will be released in exchange for 30 palestinian prisoners each, who will be released by from from israeli prisons. we will then see the much needed entry of humanitarian aid into gaza. as many as 600 trucks of aid per day over the course of those six weeks. but then, of course, there is now this major question mark that has been thrust into the public by the demands of these far right ministers about what happens after those six weeks beginning on day 16 of the ceasefire. israel and hamas are supposed to go back to the negotiating
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table to negotiate the next phases of this agreement, to try and extend that ceasefire. and ultimately, as the biden administration and the mediators have been pushing for, to reach an end of this war in gaza, that is very much uncertain now, amid these demands by those far right ministers. and we should note that the israeli prime minister in the past has refused to commit to an end of the war and has insisted that the war will not end until hamas is entirely destroyed inside of gaza. brianna. >> all right. jeremy diamond, thank you so much. and with us now to talk more about these developments. we have retired lieutenant colonel jonathan conricus. he is a former idf spokesperson. he's also a senior fellow at the foundation for the defense of democracies. and he is the host of the bottom line. thank you, sir, for being with us. you don't think this is a good deal, but do you think it's a necessary deal? >> yes. thank you for having
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me. um, it's, uh, probably the best that we could get in the current conditions where i think israel has been limited from applying full pressure on hamas. and, you know, i'm very happy that 33 israeli families will get to see their loved ones. hopefully. we don't yet know how many of them are going to see live loved ones and to start the long journey of healing within the family and community. and we don't know how many are dead and will only be finally brought to burial in israel. so that's still waiting. and of course, the entire country is really on its toes in anticipation for sunday. strategically, no, it is not a good deal because hamas is still in power. and as long as hamas is in power, that means that the war continues. that means that we have a sworn enemy on the other side of the border, an enemy that wants to destroy israel. and it's also
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bad for palestinians. and i do feel sorry for palestinians, because the fact that hamas is still in power almost ensures 100% that there's not going to be any substantial reconstruction or alleviation of their situation. and yes, they are suffering in gaza as a result of hamas's decisions and hamas's warfare tactics. and it is very sad that hamas prioritizes itself and its jihad against israel over the needs of the civilian population. so it's a bittersweet kind of deal. we'll hope that this is not the end of it and look forward to really achieving what israel needs to do. >> and jonathan, you you clearly feel that israel has been hamstrung by outside influences. can you be more specific and you tell me if i'm not characterizing that correctly? that's just what i'm taking away from what you said. but be specific. who are you? who are you holding
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responsible for? that feeling that israel has not been able to exact maximum pressure on hamas? >> yeah. no, you're 100% correct. correct. you're paraphrasing it correctly. and, you know, in war, when you fight a war like this, like israel is forced to fight similar to what european countries fought in the second world war against the really embodiment of evil and the real total desire to destroy israel. very similar to what the allied forces faced in europe. different scale, different industrial capabilities. granted. but we are facing the same type of genocidal intent and the and the desires against israel. and when you fight a war like that, you need to apply all the levels of leverage on your enemy. >> are you pointing it? are you pointing at the biden administration, or are you pointing at the trump administration? this is basically the same deal that
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was put forward in may. the framework by the biden administration. but it wasn't until trump folks got involved that, you know, israel moved forward with this. so, i mean, who are you? who are you looking to when you say that? >> no, definitely. >> i'm not talking about the deal in as such. and you're again, correct. the deal is essentially the same. when you asked about how have we gotten here? right. we're 15 months into a war that israel didn't start and didn't want and wasn't really prepared for. and we still haven't defeated hamas, and we have not yet achieved our strategic goals, and we have not yet secured our southern border. and that's a problem. and the reason we haven't done so is because we have stopped short of applying all the levels of leverage over our enemy. and yes, including humanitarian aid in war. you need to use the tools that you have available in order to force your enemy to stop fighting, to break the
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enemy's will, to fight. and there's different ways to do that. israel has been forced to use less than the capacity that it should be using, and that is why this war has dragged on, much to the detriment of israeli civilians and also palestinian civilians who are suffering longer and worse than what they should have been suffering had israel been able to really conduct decisive warfare against hamas. >> just to be clear, jonathan, so you're saying that israel should have been able i just want to be clear about what you're saying here, that israel should have been able to use better as a lever humanitarian aid for as a mechanism for meeting its objectives yeah. >> i'll explain why. you know, this deal, as you said correctly, was on the table and was presented mid and late may by the biden administration.
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there was a lot of pressure on israel to agree to it, and there was pressure on israel also to allow the provision of fuel, fuel and food and other supplies into the gaza strip, which we understood was a breaking point for hamas. >> now explain that. but, jonathan, you also understand that that's looked at internationally as collective punishment, which is illegal by international standards. so speak to that because there are people who will zero in on what you're saying, especially as a former idf spokesperson and will say that there are problems with that. >> well, i'm sure that people have lots of problems with israel fighting and defending itself. >> and i've heard jonathan, jonathan, that's not what i'm talking about. i'm talking about what you're saying about food and fuel for civilians in gaza. and i understand israel's position that also
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that i understand that it would be the the concern, the concern would be that hamas would use it or that hamas would co-opt it. i know that's the concern of israel, but the concern of people who worry about the. yes, i know and i know that that is a valid concern. but the concern of people who look at the suffering of palestinians would be right, that they will suffer. furthermore, because of that. >> yeah. >> what i say to those people who, i suppose many of them genuinely care for the well-being of palestinians, of civilians who are not related to hamas, if they really care about palestinians, then i think that their top priority should be to focus on getting rid of hamas, not applying pressure on israel. hamas started a war. hamas wants to destroy israel and kill all the jews that they can get their hands on. as they proved on october the 7th. and hamas is the organization that is using palestinians, civilians, women and children as their human shields as they,
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hamas, are hiding inside the tunnels. so i failed to see how, you know, this is israel's israel is to blame. i think hamas is to blame. and i think that anybody who sincerely and i emphasize sincerely cares about palestinians and their well-being should be focusing and helping israel to get rid of hamas. once hamas is gone, then the future will be much better for palestinians in gaza. maybe then they can move forward towards self-governance and agency, and to have a future and independence, and to be prosperous and free. that is not in the cards for palestinians. as long as hamas controls the gaza strip. and as jeremy said before, i think that is correct. this war, sadly, and i live here and it affects me and my family. so i do not say this with joy. this war isn't over until hamas is defeated. i don't think that lots of people in israel would even entertain the thought of
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this being the final act. this is a milestone and the priority of the state of israel is to do a less than perfect deal in order to get our people back. and again, we're talking about 33 out of 98. it's not all of our hostages in this stage, unfortunately, but let's say we get our 33 and then we continue to negotiate for the remaining 65. and it's not a great deal, but that's what we want to do in order to get our people back. but i don't think that people around the world should be confused or have false expectations. this isn't peace. this isn't the end of the war. this is a cease fire. and this war will end once hamas is defeated. i don't think that israel can take any more chances with jeopardizing its security. >> i will just say that we have spoken with people who are sincerely concerned about israelis, including israelis, as well as palestinians, who do see that sometimes when you're
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talking about excising hamas in the way that the idf has, you just end up with so many dead civilians in gaza. and the numbers bear that out. jonathan, thank you so much. i think we are all looking towards sunday and seeing the first of hostages released. they have been away from their families far too long and we cannot wait to begin seeing that happen. jonathan henriques, thank you so much for being with us. so long. thank you so long. thank you so much. and we'll be right back. >> kobe the making of a legend. premieres january 25th on cnn. >> what if you could tackle your dog's itching, soft stools and low energy? >> millions of pet parents are raving about doctor marty nature's blend. >> such a huge difference in their health, more energy, more playful. no more pooping issues. >> i'm doctor marty. >> i've been a veterinarian for more than 50 years. >> the dangerous ingredients added to many pet foods could be impacting your dog's lifespan. that's why i formulated nature's blend. >> now you can feed your dog wholesome cuts of real meat, vegetables and fruit with no
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are changing their point of view. i also think you're looking at people like, for instance, carrie underwood, who you mentioned there. she's going to be singing america the beautiful. she has come out and said, basically, it's like she doesn't do politics. but the president of the united states asked her to perform. so she's performing like jennifer lopez did for president biden, like beyonce did for president obama. so i think you're seeing a lot more of that. there's a normalization that's occurring in many ways for people. and of course, you're seeing people like jason aldean. you know, there's going to be a brunch that joe rogan is going to be a part of who is a huge part of the maga universe. you know, many some of these usual suspects, like the kid rocks and other like that. but i think there's also some newcomers, and i think that's reflecting the change we're seeing in the culture. >> yeah, okay. and there's unofficial balls. so it's maybe not quite the ask that a carrie underwood is getting, but you're going to be seeing snoop dogg and you're going to be seeing nelly at some of these unofficial events. you know, what do you make of this? is this a pay check? is there going to be any backlash? what
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do you see? >> well, i think paycheck is the perfect term because i think it's a paycheck, but it's not a paycheck from trump incorporated. it's a paycheck. when you look at people like snoop and nelly to their demographics, to their audience. let's be clear. donald trump achieved great strides among african american men, among latino men, among almost all those demographics. and that's what it is. it's called show business, not show friends for a reason. people like snoop, people like nelly. some people might think some of them are a little washed up or over the hill, but they still are steady sellers. having said that, i will say i think the real star power is not the one that's going to be on stage with microphones, but the one that's going to be at the inauguration, which of course is now endorsed by elon musk, jeff bezos, mark zuckerberg, the ceo of tiktok. that's where the real star power is this time around. >> explain that those are the new stars. >> well, of course, because social media is if we make the analysis to go back eight years to 2016, the massive growth and
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surge of social media over the over the past eight years has again been a cultural change. look at the way the trump campaign ran itself. i mentioned joe rogan earlier, leo vaughn, podcasters like that, but also on social media. there's a reason why the trump administration is considering maybe hitting the pause button on the tiktok ban that's supposed to take effect on sunday, because tiktok was very good to donald trump. so those ceos who, as some people use the term, have bowed and kissed the ring, maybe not incorrectly, to use that term, those ceos hold a huge amount of power, whether or not they are oligarchs, as president biden said, is debatable, but they have a huge amount of power, and that power puts the spotlight much more brightly than, unfortunately, to say, hollywood can. >> right now they're really showing up for him. but it's not like hollywood isn't. though we should mention. yesterday trump announced that actors jon voight, mel gibson, sylvester stallone, that they're all going to be special ambassadors to hollywood. what does that mean?
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>> brianna, you and i can get out a dictionary. i mean, i would call this the remake of grumpy old men, but clearly, whatever that means, it means something to donald trump. remember, donald trump also named survivor, executive producer and celebrity apprentice executive producer mark burnett as a special envoy to the uk? what the special envoys to hollywood mean? i'm not sure. is there some sort of peace treaty they're trying to do? these guys, though, reflect how important hollywood is to donald trump, who i might add, was an emmy nominee as a reality tv host. so one of the things is we know that tru i a guy who always craves acceptance with the elites, with the bigwigs, and what have you. he's always wanted that acceptance with hollywood. you know, the man has a star on the hollywood walk of fame, and yet he can't seem to cut a break with anyone in hollywood, at least publicly. privately, i think quite a few executives and what have you are quite pro-trump. so in this case, i think these are three guys who stuck with him through thick and thin, and he's giving them a little bit of what we would call in any other age patronage.
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