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>> this is cnn breaking news. >> hello. whether you're in the united states or elsewhere in the world, you are now in the cnn newsroom. i'm ben hunt in atlanta, and it is so good to have you with me. tiktok has now gone dark in the u.s., actually going offline shortly before a ban was slated to go into effect. let's take a look at the tiktok homepage now. a message says sorry, tiktok isn't available right now. a law banning tiktok has been enacted in the u.s. unfortunately, that means you can't use tiktok for now. the big question is what is going to happen next? 170 million american users could see the service return as soon as monday, when donald trump takes office. the president elect says he will, quote, most likely delay a ban on tiktok for 90 days. but he has not yet made that final decision. the app did threaten to go offline
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on sunday unless the biden administration assured the company there would be no punishment for violations. the white house called the warning a stunt and said the issue now belongs to trump. obviously, i want to dig straight into this story, so let's now go to cnn's chief media analyst, brian stelter in new york. brian, thank you so much for being back with me. this caught all of us off guard. one minute i was scrolling through on my phone, i'll see it on tiktok and then bam, the app was telling me to close it down. why do you think team tiktok cut access so early? >> because tiktok users are now unwittingly in the middle of a dramatic negotiation between the american and chinese governments. what makes this even wilder is that the american government hasn't taken power yet, right? this this law was signed into effect by president biden. it is being enacted under the biden administration. but biden wants nothing to do with this. i checked in tonight, overnight with the white house official. they essentially say this is
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donald trump's problem. now. they want the incoming president to deal with this. and they believe trump is going to make a deal with the chinese in spite of this american law that so many republican lawmakers passed last year. so this is this extraordinary situation in some ways, a standoff between tiktok and the american government at the very moment, the very holiday weekend when the american government is changing hands, when power is being transferred. so that is why the tiktok app is dark right now. but in 48 hours, it will probably come back alive. >> i like your positivity there. it's interesting. okay, well, there was talk that tiktok may not even cut access at all. some people said they may just hold out for trump coming in on monday. so what does happen now? >> so what happened? my sense from tiktok sources, speaking on condition of anonymity, is that they were under pressure from all the service providers
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that make tiktok function. you know, think about it when you're using an app on your phone, it's not just the company that makes the app that's involved, it's also the cloud computing services, the software, the networks, the the web servers that actually run the app. we're talking about companies like amazon and oracle that provide the server space. we're talking about apple and google that run the app stores. and my impression from tiktok sources is that some of these service providers, some of these in-betweens, were concerned they might be legally liable if they allow tiktok to be online in the united states, starting right now, starting at 12 a.m. eastern time in the u.s. now, the biden administration said, go ahead, leave it up. we don't care. we're not going to enforce the law. but apparently those messages from the biden administration were not enough. and by doing this dramatic blackout, by by having tiktok go dark, think about what tiktok is doing right. they are empowering and mobilizing and encouraging their users to
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pressure the government to pressure trump to get this resolved. this feels to me like one of the most dramatic ways to on the part of tiktok to pressure action to be taken. >> i think you're right about that, because just looking at that statement where they say we are fortunate that president trump has indicated that he will work with us on a resolution to reinstate tiktok once he takes office. please stay tuned. i mean, that's a lot of pressure to be applying. i was just talking to my producer before this, saying that surely there's going to be a lot of young people seeing this political news for the first time, trying to come to a sense that the president could save the app that they love so much. isn't that a bit crazy? >> this has been a political awakening for many americans in the, you know, around. and take a look at this statement from tiktok to its employees. i obtained this internal memo that also calls out president-elect trump. it says, we know this blackout is disappointing, but we are fortunate that president trump has indicated that he will work with us on a solution to reinstate tiktok once he takes
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office. so that is the internal word to tiktok employees saying, don't worry about this. this is temporary. we're going to get this app back online. >> yes, indeed. that's some juicy reporting there, brian. we appreciate it. thank you so much for that. brian stelter appreciate it. we're going to come to you later, i'm sure. thank you. let's keep this going. joining us now is elementary school teacher and tiktok influencer jerry chang. jerry, thank you so much for being with me. how are you doing? >> i'm doing okay. thanks for having me, ben. >> well, i'm glad you're doing okay, because surely your entire livelihood is based on tiktok, so maybe we can start from the beginning. tell me about how you use tiktok. and how did you build up your following? >> yeah, that was a lie. i'm not doing well at all. um, i downloaded tiktok when i lost my parents in 2020, and i was grieving really hard. yeah, and i started laughing and enjoying the app. and i stumbled upon teacher tiktok, and i was like, wait a minute. i'm learning some stuff. i'm becoming a
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better teacher, implementing things in my classroom, something as simple as technology. and then i was like, whoa, maybe i could do this. within six months, i had 200,000 followers. now i'm up to over 2 million. i've spent the past four years building this community of parents and educators across the country, across the world that i connect with. and it's just gone. >> some teachers have talked to me about how much they hate smartphones and smartwatches and social media. they tell me that they struggle to teach because of tiktok, and how young people's attention spans and reading abilities have been massively impacted by the app, so a lot of them are potentially celebrating this ban and seeing this news on cnn like, yay! but what would you say to them i mean, absolutely not. >> i mean, yes, our cell phones in the classroom and issue. yes, that's a bigger problem. you know, being on tiktok in school and things like that. but there are so many good things that are happening on
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the app. i mean, an hour long training that i may attend, i could get in 60s. i'm an older teacher, i'm in my 50s, so keeping up with technology, i all the advancements in education i get from young teachers on tiktok. a lessons, technology, all kinds of things that people have sent me. i've had my followers send me gifts for my students in my classroom, decorations, books, all kinds of stuff, all from tiktok. there's a lot of good things that are happening on the app. i've become a motivational speaker. i got a book deal, it's coming out next year, and all this started from tiktok. yes, it's way beyond. just like dancing in the hallways and doing the latest. now i know all that stuff too. it helps me stay connected to my students, you know? and yes, are there bad elements of any social media app? absolutely. should cell phones like, you know, be discussed more in schools and not be allowed, like in the
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classroom? absolutely. there's so many good things happening on the app within the realm of education. >> well, the big question is, is this actually the end of tiktok? i don't know if you gamble. i don't make some bets, but i want you to make a bet for me. now, is this the end i'm trying to hang on to hope. >> i am like a very positive influencer. people rely on me. i've had people all over the country, young teachers like you're the positive one, i need you, i need you. i'm trying to hold on to the hope. and when i open the app, well, i guess like an hour ago and it was just like, no. and i was like, what do you mean, no? i was holding on to all the hope. i still have hope. that's what keeps me going. um, everybody's on the other apps now. crying and crying together. my dms are blowing up. my texts are blowing up. what are we going to do? what are we going to do? and i'm like, there's still hope. i actually called my senators for the first time in my life last week. i hate the phone. i do not like to talk to people on the phone. i call them both and i talk to real people like,
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hey, can y'all do what you need to do to save tiktok? >> well, this is this is good. you're getting politically involved. i like it, but surely, absolutely, surely. one of the big questions here is if people are relying on tiktok for their livelihoods, you've got a literal financial link to this decision that's being taken now. are you not a bit worried that if this goes on and on and on, this is your income that's being affected? is it? does this not almost tempt you to disappear from social media and do something that is less reliant on something you're not in control of? >> absolutely. i will take a huge financial hit. i mean, i'm a teacher. i'm one of the fortunate creators. i do have a stable income. i'm on vacation right now in a hotel with my family, and i told my kids before i came down to do this interview that we were talking about summer vacations, and i was like, oh, we're going to have to put the brakes on. i'm going to have to rebudget i don't know, right? like, i mean, it's definitely like, i don't know what's going to happen. i don't know how this is going to affect our income.
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so those little trips we were going to go on this summer, you know, we're going to have to hold off a little bit until i it's more predictable. >> well, don't cancel it just too soon because in a few hours it may all change again. jerry chang, it's been real. thank you so much for joining me. really enjoyed that. i'm definitely going to be speaking to you again soon. >> thanks. >> my pleasure. >> thank you. let's keep it going. we're going live now to san francisco, where i'm joined by our technology reporter for cnet. hello. how are you doing? >> i'm doing well. how are you? >> i'm good, i'm good. thank you for joining me. i want to know, can tiktok be saved? it's the big question everyone's going to be asking. >> tiktok can be saved. it feels very doomsday right now. but, you know, donald trump has gone back and forth on this. he was initially the person who wanted to ban tiktok, and that didn't end up happening. in the end, the court struck it down. but what he said now is that he's determined to save it. it helped him during the election. he likes tiktok now. it's hopefully there's still a
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chance here. there's a possibility that he could issue an executive order. there's also a possibility that he could issue a 90 day delay of the law. if he says that a divestment is underway, so the ball really falls in his court right now. >> but should that even really happen? i mean, i'm from the uk. i moved over to the u.s. this week. what a week. i'm confused about the fact that so many governments around the world have put some kind of ban on tiktok. my producer was telling me just before this, i think it's 14 countries that have put some kind of ban on tiktok's practices in their nations. in the u.s., you've got government workers that can't have tiktok on their phones. in the uk, it's exactly the same. and this happened many, many months ago, potentially years ago. i mean, is this something that should be undone? >> there's a very real national security concern among a lot of lawmakers, even just ordinary citizens. right. i think the other piece of it is people say, well, what's the difference between tiktok and instagram or facebook or any other social media that we use?
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a lot of that data is still being gleaned by other companies, but they are not china based companies. and that's again, that that distinction there. and so the concern about privacy and security and ensuring that, you know, there isn't disinformation on tiktok is real, but i think people are waiting to see where's the proof? where's proof that data has been used against american citizens to sway their algorithms and then sway the way that they think? so that's really the thing that people have been saying now is, what's the difference between tiktok and everybody else? and where's the proof in all of this concern? >> and i think, well, on that point, you've got people flocking to these other apps that are also either chinese owned or at least aligned in some way with data being uploaded and used in china. so is the concern not extending to these other apps as well? what can you tell me about that? >> i mean, that's what's really interesting, right? so when people found out that tiktok was likely to shut down and has now shut down, they flocked to another app called rednote. and this is another china based app. it is not owned by
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bytedance. it is not owned by tiktok's parent company. but it's still based in china. and people went there not only to look for a tiktok replacement, but also as an act of protest, of saying we don't care if china gets our data, we just don't want to go on instagram, which is kind of a very funny reaction. and so but the thing to keep in mind there is rednote also collects your location data and your browsing and your ip addresses, but so does, you know, instagram for example. right. but then the difference between rednote and a u.s. based app is there's going to be more censorship on there as well, because it's based in china. so there has been a very interesting reaction there and very interesting interactions between u.s. users and chinese users on rednote, because in china itself, tiktok is banned too. they have their own app called douyin, which is their version of tiktok. >> what can you tell me about what tiktok is doing to support creators? we just spoke to jerry chang. there, and i mean, she is clearly going through it saying that she's going to be having to cancel holidays because she's not sure what her income stream is going to be like. now that tiktok is in this very
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weird space, surely tiktok, in supporting its creator economy, should be doing more, or at least telling them the app was going to go down in the first place? >> yeah, it's very difficult because tiktok has really been talking about the impact on creators, right? so when we found out about this ban really potentially going into effect, they highlighted the fact that small businesses and creators were at risk of losing $1 billion in revenue. that's billion with a b, right. so, you know, that was such a focal point for them. and so now i think it's up to them to say, okay, well, you know, if you really care about those creators, how are you going to prove it? i think you bring up a really good point there. but yeah, it's not just the everyday users, but it's people where this is a source of income for them. it's not just about community, but it's about their livelihood. >> give me your prediction and what is happening next. >> you know what i like? the idea of staying optimistic. i think, um, i think it's possible. it's really hard to predict what happens. but i do think it is possible that trump holds true to that idea of, uh, keeping tiktok alive. it seems like tiktok is hopeful, at least, because even in their
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pop up, they mentioned that they were working with the trump administration. so i'm going to also be optimistic and i'm going to maintain that. but it really is anyone's guess. i don't think we ever expected to be here right now. i never expected to open up my tiktok app and say that it see that it wasn't working. >> while times are going to get more wild. so thank you so much. we appreciate it. thank you for being with me. >> thank you for having me. >> so welcome. the ceasefire between israel and hamas is scheduled to begin in just over an hour. yes, it is all happening today. how it's expected to play out and what it means for everyone involved. next on cnn newsroom. >> kobi believed in himself at the youngest possible age. >> people who may never even know what a basketball looks like felt his presence. >> he wants the opportunity to make his own mistakes. he's going to end up making them. >> that's when the black mamba
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also on saturday, israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu addressed israel, saying he is committed to getting all of the hostages back home. >> the cabinet and government have approved the plan for the return of our captives. this is a war goal we will not relent on until it is completed the agreement is also the result of cooperation between israel and the outgoing administration of president biden, as well as the incoming administration of president trump. we maintain the right to return to war if necessary, with the backing of the united states. >> israeli troops are preparing for a gradual withdrawal from some parts of gaza. the agreement calls for them to move to a buffer zone away from populated areas. meanwhile, palestinian civil defense is warning people that even if the troops are gone, the areas might not be safe. >> for those in gaza city planning to return to northern
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gaza, as well as those in southern areas heading toward rafah or eastern regions along the border. we strongly urge caution. as is customary, israeli forces often leave behind remnants of war in these areas, which, if disturbed, could result in fatal consequences. >> while shlomi eldar is an israeli journalist and filmmaker, he's also the author of hamas from social movement to war crimes. he's joining us now from tel aviv. let's dig into this. so the biggest news to me was netanyahu's televised speech just hours before the ceasefire was due to start. he stressed that the ceasefire was, quote, temporary and israel reserved the right to resume strikes in gaza. i mean, that surprised me. what are your thoughts on all of that and of what could be about to happen? >> yes, i must say that netanyahu, after the deal is between a hard place, between a rock and a hard place. he feels
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himself between the right wing government that is threatening him, that they, his coalition, will collapse and pushing president trump, that pushing him to go forward with the deal. so netanyahu must convince everyone that he go for the deal. but on his parties, partners try to convince them that this is part of the the agreement and he go forward in the war. after the first the first release of the israeli hostages. >> do you think that this ceasefire will hold? i know that's a big question. everyone's going to be talking about it. but if it does hold, who will enforce it? >> um, i think that everybody wants that. the the agreement will exist. the releasing of all the israeli hostages from gaza strip, we are talking about 98 hostages that are still in gaza. but on the other
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side, there are ministers of netanyahu's, the rightist government that ever had in israel that don't accept this agreement. while netanyahu promised them the great victory, the total victory and dealing with hamas today is not the victory that he promised them. so that's what i mean when i said that netanyahu plays the two parties, try to convince them. i think that everything is clear now that hamas says you'll get your hostages, that were taken from israel on october the terrible, october 7th, if you withdraw from all of gaza strip and netanyahu's try to convince their partners that maybe he can find any things, any way to stay in gaza to save the border of the israeli gaza border, to not give us any chance when hamas will exist in
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gaza strip and threaten again, israel again. >> indeed, what does all of this mean for the future of the palestinian authority and for the israeli government? >> the israeli authority, the palestinian authority in the west bank will not enter to gaza because netanyahu's all the time. when we talk about the the next days of the war, who will govern gaza strip? and he stopped any, any talk that the the authority, the palestinian authority will enter again to gaza strip while after the military coup that hamas made in gaza strip in 22, 2007. so we still stay with hamas. netanyahu promised the his voters, the israeli audience, that this war he eliminate
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hamas. and the feeling now that after the deal with hamas that hamas will not eliminate it. unfortunately, really, the israeli really believe that the war after a one year and four months that hamas will collapse, that hamas will not still exist in gaza strip, but this is the situation. hamas will govern and will stay in gaza strip, try to recover, try to find out how to govern to, to, to, to be and stay in power in gaza strip, but it still remain in gaza strip. >> i want to talk team trump. i hope that's okay with you. it took just over 15 months to reach this agreement and then bam, here we are. how crucial was the incoming trump administration in all of this? >> yes. without trump, it's very clear. without trump threatening netanyahu to accept the deal. i think netanyahu would not accept the
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deal now because his coalition, because he promised a total victory. trump just said clearly, take it now. and netanyahu took what we could be taken eight months ago. so unfortunately, we lost lives. we lost soldiers lives, we lost hostages and many, many casualties in gaza strip. and we are in the same, same, the same point that we can be done. about eight months ago, there was a major push from the far right to stop this deal. >> what message is netanyahu actually sending to his coalition with the deal that we've got? >> yes. the the message to his coalition, by the way, one of his ministers, the bezalel smotrich, the finance minister, said that he got a promise from netanyahu that gaza will be made uninhabited,
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uninhabited. first of all, i must say that is an outrageous statement. but netanyahu say everything to his coalition just to be to remain in his position as a prime minister. so i'm not sure that he really wants that gaza will be uninhabited in the next month because, as we said, we have trump that pushing to go forward with the deal. but he must promise to his coalition that he is taking gaza to a war and a deal, releasing the hostages. this is a game, the political game that netanyahu plays with his government, with his partners, in his government, the rightist government that ever had in israel since it was established. >> well, i just learned a lot from that. i really appreciate it. shlomi eldar live in tel aviv. thank you. this is a night of breaking news. we're going to keep on going. we'll be back with more news in just a moment. you are watching cnn. >> after a big comeback, donald
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means you can't use tiktok for now. there's also a reference to donald trump and how he will help the social media service return online. american users could regain access, though, as soon as monday when donald trump takes over in the white house. the president elect says he will, quote, most likely delay a ban on tiktok for 90 days, but no final decision has been made yet. earlier, the app threatened to go down on sunday unless the biden administration made assurances there would be no punishment for violations. the white house called the warning just a stunt and said this was trump's problem. now, let's dig into this a little bit more as we're joining kaya yousef. she is a reporter for the information. kai with me earlier. let's just talk about, again the fact that this app was cut so soon. we were talking about this for days and even weeks ahead of now, expecting that something might happen. we didn't really know what was going to happen,
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and then suddenly, bam! no more access in the u.s. why do you think it happened so soon? >> i think everyone from tiktok's own employees to creators to merchants who sell on tiktok shop, everyone was hoping that there would be some last minute hail mary, that maybe the supreme court would come in last minute and overturn the law. but the reality is this deadline has been the case for eight months, and i think there just was disbelief that it would really happen. >> what is tiktok hoping for at this point? >> i mean, why is it that the app hasn't just done what the government said it wanted? surely with all of this warning, they could have just done something right? >> yeah. i mean, tiktok would be in a very different position if kamala harris was elected. i think trump is a primary for tiktok, and they are hoping that he will be able to help them, whether it's via executive order, whether they'll be able to broker some sort of deal with the trump administration. of course, this is still a law, bipartisan law that was very popular, went
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through congress very quickly. so it is a question of what he can do. but they do still have that hope that they can work something out with the new administration. >> yeah. >> i mean, i've just been scrolling through on social media and seeing on other apps that have not been taken down, and people are saying that there's hope, and even tiktok is saying there's hope. president-elect trump is going to come in and save the day. do you think that's going to happen? >> i don't know, because he has really limited options, right? like, yes, he can try to use the executive order. but the problem is that will be very quickly challenged in court. so it's a question of whether he can really get that extension. and it's going to be sort of this back and forth. he might do the executive order. will tiktok go back up for a day and then go back down? we don't really know what's going to happen. i mean, what he can do is convince tiktok to sell, right? like if if tiktok sells, then the app is back up, right? that's what happens. there's nothing permanent about this deadline. that's what we have to remember.
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>> how easy is that, though? how easy is it to just sell an app like this? i mean, i'm just coming to terms with the fact that when i was working for google, for instance, i was seeing multiple parts of the business and lots of different parts of the world. but all of these employees under one brand name, right under google. so if tiktok was to just split up, then surely people would have to renegotiate contracts, you would have different offices like all of this, even though we're just saying they just need to sell it. >> it's extremely complicated, and that's something that tiktok's lawyer argued before the supreme court. i was in the room last friday when the justices heard the case from tiktok, who really tried to fight the first amendment fight, which did not land with the justices. but that's what tiktok's lawyer said. i mean, tiktok still operates all over the world. of course, their parent company is bytedance, and they have, you know, engineering talent all over the world. so it is very, very difficult under any time frame, the tiktok lawyer said. so it
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wasn't just that within the time frame that the law allowed. but he said in any time frame it would be very hard for them to sell. of course, bytedance and tiktok have maintained throughout this process that they are not interested in selling. but, you know, trump, trump is the ultimate deal maker, as he says. so, you know, maybe there is some sort of deal that they can work out. >> we will soon find out. elle reeve, thank you so much for joining me. i'm sure we're going to speak again very, very soon. let's go now to cnn's mark stewart, who is live in beijing. let's keep this going. mark you there. >> hi, ben. good to see you. >> good to see you, too. thank you for being with me. obviously, every single western media outlet is covering this right now. i'm looking at my screen. i'm seeing everyone talking about tiktok. but you're in asia. tell me, has there been much reaction there? >> well, it is getting coverage. >> i was curious about that when i woke up this morning. >> if this shutdown were indeed to take place, how would
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chinese state media report it? >> well, it is being reported the the the suspension, the shutdown of tiktok is getting some coverage from chinese state media, from the large television network, as well as as well as from xinhua, which is the state news agency. they are reporting it. but as far as any additional lines about what government officials are saying, we're not getting that right now. there is perhaps a chance later in the day we may get a little bit more insight from the government, from the government view on all of this. but looking at the past few weeks, it's not something that the ministry of foreign affairs here has been eager to to react to. i asked a question maybe about a week or so ago. it's a question that comes up often during daily briefings, and instead the government is saying we stand by our previous statements, statements saying that the united states has been acting like a bully and that it does
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not respect free markets, and that there's no evidence of any kind of national security concerns or lapses. that's that's the big talking points that we've been getting as we look ahead. perhaps, uh, we will hear more, especially after a phone call that we know that took place between president elect trump and chinese president xi jinping. as the president elect told cnn, tiktok did come up in the conversation. but it's interesting, ben, if we look at the reporting here in china, there is no mention of tiktok during that specific phone call. >> very interesting. i mean, it's not just tiktok though, right? people are flocking to other apps and some of these other apps that are apparently, like tiktok are also either chinese owned or their data is potentially being intercepted or being used in china as well. so tell me about these other apps that people are running
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to. >> so the app that's getting a lot of attention among american users is called xiaohongshu. xiaohongshu is how you say it in mandarin. that translates to rednote. and it's kind of similar. i think it's kind of a stretch to say it's an exact replica of tiktok. some people say that there are some instagram attributes to it, but it has just through this phenomenon, been getting american users. but americans are also feeling a bit frustrated because on that chinese app, they too are are noticing some of the censorship that a lot of the apps here in china do see social media here is heavily censored, even on the search engines, even on the topics. there are just some topics that the government views to be very sensitive that you will not see on these chinese apps. so that's happening because i always find this people find this interesting. you know, i
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have an american phone i can access instagram, i can access x facebook, i can do a google search. but on my chinese phone, that's not possible. i have an american sim card in this phone, and i'm able to access things, but otherwise i here in china, the electronic firewall, the the electronic censorship is very much a part of people's lives. so we have this free speech debate that tiktok has even raised in the united states. yet here in china, the censorship ban is extremely heavy. >> yes, indeed. >> i mean, i've got a uk phone. obviously, i've jumped over to the u.s. this week and i was fully expecting i was going to be able to access tiktok regardless of what happened here. but nope, i think i got the app. the notification is one of the first people so very surprising there. but thank you mark. we appreciate it. i'm sure we'll be speaking very, very soon. we are just one day away from donald trump's inauguration, and the plans
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be focused on, i'm told, is all about immigration. now, donald trump has promised repeatedly throughout his time on the campaign trail to try and round up illegal immigrants in this country and deport them. and that's exactly what some of this early action is going to look like. we're told that you should expect ice raids through major metropolitan cities, sweeps through cities like washington, d.c., chicago and denver. and donald trump actually addressed some of this in an interview with nbc on saturday. he said, essentially, that he wants to begin very early, very quickly with some of these actions and some of these cities, but wouldn't say exactly where. now, some of the other actions, we're told, related to immigration, as well as donald trump and his team are considering a national emergency declaration to try and free up some of the resources from the pentagon to be sent to the southern border, as well as looking at different asylum restrictions and really rolling back some of what joe biden has done, some of which, of course, was him undoing what donald trump had done during his first time in office. now,
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we did hear from one of donald trump's advisers on saturday, speaking with cnn's jessica dean. really walking through some of this action that is expected to be taken. take a listen. >> when you go back to the campaign trail, what president trump would talk about is that local law enforcement really knows where the criminal illegals are. and so partnering up with local law enforcement to make sure that we go and target the folks who are the really bad actors, we're talking the transnational gang members. we're talking the people that we know that are criminal illegals that are here in this country, that, quite frankly, are a danger to society. >> now, you heard miller tell jessica there that really one of the big focuses is going to be on targeting illegal immigrants who have committed crimes in this country. that is definitely a big focus, i'm told, for donald trump on day one, but not all of those early executive orders are going to be focused on immigration. i'm told there's also going to be some orders focused on trade and the economy, as well as energy. so a lot that donald trump is planning to do on day
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one, just shortly after being sworn in. alayna treene cnn washington we have breaking news regarding the israel-hamas ceasefire. >> a statement from israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu says he's told the israeli military that the cease fire will not begin until israel has received the names of hostages that hamas will release. stay with cnn for instant updates on this breaking story. meanwhile, a south korean court has extended president yoon suk yeol detention for up to 20 days, citing concerns mr. yoon may destroy evidence relating to his insurrection case. sunday's court ruling sparked violent protests. hundreds of supporters stormed the court in the middle of the night, smashing windows and assaulting police officers, according to local reports. president yoon is facing a criminal probe into his short lived declaration of martial law last month. he's the first sitting south korean president to be arrested. the embattled president has already
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>> about 41,000 people were still affected by evacuation orders in los angeles as of saturday. that's down more than 170,000 at the height of the wildfires. containment has improved for the eaton and palisades fires, now at 73% and 43%, respectively, in santa monica, all curfews and evacuation warnings have been lifted, and the pacific coast highway and local streets are now open and accessible. but in some areas of the county, a curfew is still in effect from 6 p.m. to 6 a.m., and as conditions on the ground improve in los angeles, many are now faced with what to do in the aftermath of the devastation. cnn's julia vargas jones has more from altadena. >> more than ten days after both the eaton fire and the palisades fires started, in some areas that were previously under evacuation are now open to residents. >> still, 41,000 people across l.a. county under these evacuation orders and warnings. but in santa monica, some good
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news the pacific coast highway is open to local traffic and all curfews and evacuation warnings are now lifted as these residents begin to come home or to what's left of their homes. many will need help to rebuild. sometimes entire neighborhoods. governor gavin newsom announced on saturday that five major lenders will provide a 90 day grace period on mortgage payments for california wildfire victims. that kind of assistance is coming not just from government and from neighbors, people helping each other, but also institutions that are beloved by angelenos like the l.a. dodgers and other sports teams. that together raised more than $8 million for both victims and frontline workers. and on friday had an event where they gave out essential items to families that were in those evacuation areas. we caught up with one of them. >> the kids. their schools burned down, little league burned down, altadena musical
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theater burned down. my business creativity used to do all my festivals in altadena because that's where i live, and that's where we raised our children. it's all gone. >> it's all gone. >> how does it feel to not be able to be in your house and without standing? >> it's a really it's bizarre, actually, because it's a survivor. it's a survivor's guilt. >> and authorities are saying that families like jennifer's might be able to come back to look at their properties and survey any damage as early as next thursday. julia vargas jones cnn, altadena thousands marched in washington, d.c., on saturday to protest against donald trump and his policies. >> demonstrators walked past the white house and onto the national mall, waving signs and chanting. some wore the pink hats seen at previous anti-trump marches, though turnout at saturday's people march was smaller than the women's march in 2017. more
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is cnn breaking news. >> hello and welcome. i'm ben hunt in atlanta. we are following two breaking stories. the popular chinese owned social media platform tiktok goes dark in the u.s. but first, a long awaited cease fire between israel and hamas, which was due to take effect this hour, now appears to be on hold. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu says he's told the israeli military that the cease fire will not begin until israel has received the names of hostages that hamas will release. the cease fire was due to begin less than half an hour from now, at 8:30 a.m. local time. under the agreement, hamas was to release three of them. on sunday, israel was to release 95 palestinians. it's been holding prisoner. each side would release more in the coming weeks. israeli troops are preparing for a gradual withdrawal from some parts of gaza. the agreement calls for them to move to a buffer zone
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away from populated areas. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu addressed israel on saturday, saying he plans to bring home all of the hostages. >> israel, the cabinet and the government have approved a plan for the return of our captives. >> this is a war goal we will not relent on until it is completed. i know that this concern is shared by all the families in israel. i promise you, we will meet all the goals of the war. we will bring everyone home. >> in tel aviv, demonstrators were on the streets on saturday night calling for an end to the war in egypt. hundreds of aid trucks are at the rafah border crossing right now, ready to enter gaza as soon as the fighting stops. well, obviously this is breaking news. we're going to go straight to salma abdelaziz live in london with more. salma, thank you so much for being with me. tell me, what more do we know right now about netanyahu's decision? >> yes. and this is really important because we only just received this in the last few moments. a statement from prime
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minister israeli israeli prime minister netanyahu's office saying that the cease fire will not begin until israel receives a list of the names of hostages that are set to be released. now, there was already overnight a security situation assessment that was held by the israeli government because of what they say is the delay in receiving this list. hamas has acknowledged this delay, but say that it is, quote, due to a technical failure and they have reiterated their commitment to the deal. it is difficult to really overemphasize, ben, just how much people are waiting. families are waiting with bated breath, both in israel and inside gaza, for this deal to take place. the guns should fall silent in less than 30 minutes. but of course, with this delay, it is unclear if that will take place. everyone, including humanitarian organizations, is gearing up for this cease fire. you mentioned that aid trucks are
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already waiting at the rafah border crossing. under this agreement, some 600 aid trucks a day will be allowed into gaza. that is a huge improvement from the tiny trickle of help that has been coming through over the last 15 months. you have to remember the dire conditions inside the gaza strip, hunger, disease, a lack of medical care, all of those issues may begin to be resolved by humanitarian groups. once that cease fire takes place. and then, of course, there is the release of israeli hostages. again, according to this deal, at around 4 p.m. local time, we should see the first three hostages released. according to u.s. officials, those first three hostages will be three female civilian hostages. so huge moments, huge anticipation, huge hope as the clock ticks. but yet again, there seems to be this obstacle coming from israeli prime minister netanyahu's office. the statement about the list of
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names that has absolutely put yet again slowed down this process. it is unclear at this time when that list will be received. does it mean the guns will fall silent again? the statement was clear that the cease fire will not begin, so we'll absolutely bring you those updates as we get them. but again, less than 30 minutes from now, guns are supposed to fall silent. but prime minister netanyahu's office is waiting on a list of names before that takes place. >> i mean, just yesterday, i was in this seat scrolling on social media, seeing people celebrating in the streets in gaza. and i then asked experts on this show whether they thought those celebrations were a bit premature. i mean, what are you hearing from people on the ground now? >> i think the desperation on the ground, ben, is such that any respite, any sort of relief, any hope is absolutely going to be celebrated. but we must put this in the wider context of what's taking place in the gaza strip these last 15
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months of war have absolutely decimated that enclave. nearly every single person has been displaced. the medical infrastructure is entirely destroyed, some more than 90% of buildings apparently have been damaged or destroyed, meaning many people don't even have a home to go back to. ben. so yes, it may seem ahead of time, but when you think about just how horrific the conditions are on the ground, how desperate people are, both those waiting for the hostages and those inside gaza for any sort of good news. after a brutal 15 month war, you can begin to understand why. just as that clock ticks, the hope, the anticipation rises. >> yes, indeed. we will see what happens over the next few minutes. that's what it's going to come down to. salma abdelaziz in london. thank you so much. i'm sure we'll be speaking very, very soon. well, more breaking news. tick tock is now officially online. it is actually going
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down shortly before a ban was slated to go into effect. let's take a look at the home page of tick tock. so a message now says sorry, tick tock isn't available right now. a law banning it has been enacted in the u.s. unfortunately, that means you can't use tiktok. for now. the question is, what is going to happen next? perhaps 170 million american users could see service return as soon as monday when donald trump takes office. the president elect says he will, quote, most likely delay a ban on tiktok for 90 days. but he has not made a final decision yet. the app did threaten to go offline on sunday unless the biden administration assured the company there would be no punishment for violations. the white house called the warning just a stunt and said the issue now belongs to trump. cnn's chief media analyst brian stelter has more on what led up to this. >> hey there. yes, tiktok has gone dark in the united states. everyone wants to know what happens next, but to understand
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it, let's go back in time. about five years to see how we've reached this point. it was in 2020 that then president donald trump expressed concerns about tiktok, warning that the chinese controlled app was a danger to americans. this idea about a ban took years to really gather steam. i remember interviewing republican allies of trump in 2022 and in 2023 about the importance of a ban once it was brought before all of congress in 2024, the house of representatives passed this bill with bipartisan support. this was not a close vote. there was a lot of support for this ban, and president biden signed it into law. there are still some republican lawmakers who support this ban, like senator tom cotton. he said the other day on x that bytedance and its, quote, chinese communist masters have had nine months to sell tiktok. the very fact that they have refused to reveal, quote, exactly what
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tiktok is. he calls it a communist spy app. but there are so many other voices in this conversation, so many other people, including influencers and business owners who rely on tiktok, who are worried about the impacts of this ban. and frankly, their voices have been louder in recent days. while the voices warning about national security have been more muted. i think that's because president elect trump has been out in front, suggesting that he will find a way to save this app. he will find a way to save tiktok, and that has caused some republican party members to start to quiet their concerns. we've also heard from democrats in the u.s. who want this app to stay online. it seems that the biden administration is just punting this issue to the incoming administration. and that's why we're in this strange in-between period right now where tiktok is briefly unavailable in the u.s., but everyone believes it will come back online once trump takes the oath of office on monday. and when i say everyone, that
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includes the employees at tiktok, here's an internal memo that i obtained two employees on saturday night talking about this impending ban and saying, quote, we are fortunate that president trump has indicated he will work with us on a solution to reinstate tiktok once he takes office. that's the big question. now, what will trump do? how will he do it? and can he find a way to keep this entertainment and communications platform online? despite all of the national security concerns? back to you. >> well, let's dig into this story a little bit more. joining us now is content creator and author joann molinaro, also known as the korean vegan. i love that name. and she joins us from los angeles. thank you so much for being with me. i'm going to skip the pleasantries. tell me, how are you actually feeling right now? >> well, ben, thanks for inviting me and thanks for asking me. i have to say, i have been rather emotional.
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>> um, i don't want to overstate it, but i do feel like i've lost many, many, many friends in just the past couple of hours. >> gosh. and tell me more about that. so what's actually behind it? you're a new york times bestselling author, a host of a podcast. some would ask, do you even really need tiktok? why are those relationships and friendships not continuing beyond this ban? >> that's a really great question. but to answer it very succinctly, yes, i do. i do need tiktok to continue engaging with the community that i've spent over four and a half years building. it's a unique community, and it's not something that can be replicated really at all on the other platforms. not to mention the fact that i was deriving significant income from my small business on tiktok. so that will also be sorely missed. but right now, i'm just missing hearing from the thousands of people who continue to be reached by my content. >> after all of these years of you having access to this app and i'm guessing uploading
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content whenever you wanted to. talk me through that moment when you logged onto tiktok and you immediately were told to close it down because the ban had come into effect, it was extremely surprising how emotional i got. >> i have been preparing for this for days and weeks. i've been talking about the tiktok ban and all the things that i need to do as a content creator and a small business owner to prepare for that eventuality. with the hope. i agree with brian. i do think that it may come back to life in just a couple of days, but with the hope that it would come back, i was making my preparations. so as you alluded to when i logged on earlier this evening, and all of a sudden my activity screen went completely blank, and the thousands of comments that i was trying to respond to as much as i could disappeared. i genuinely felt like like i said, that i had lost a bunch of my friends just in a second.
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>> you are also an attorney. i just wondered if you could talk me through some of the legal options that tiktok has now. i mean, we are expecting that they're going to make a comeback of some sort, but legally, could they just challenge this and return in exactly the way that they want to? >> i think there are a couple of ways they can challenge the current situation. can they challenge the law that has already been enacted? no. that avenue has now been closed thanks to a unanimous decision by the supreme court of the united states. there are a couple of political things and more commercial things that they could work on over the next couple of days, especially with the president, an incoming president that seems very keen on helping them, at least according to their outgoing messages. to users like me. one of those things, of course, is working with donald trump to exert some pressure on both houses of congress to repeal or amend the act, to give them a little bit more breathing room. the other thing that we've seen donald trump allude to is
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perhaps work with its doj to not enforce the ban. now, a lot of that will then require apple, google and the many other suppliers that work with bytedance and tiktok to be persuaded that they're going to be safe enough with the word of donald trump and his appointed doj to not be prosecuted. that's currently where we're at right now. apparently, some of these suppliers were not comforted by the words of joe biden and the incoming president. >> what would you say to the people who are now celebrating in the downfall of tiktok? >> i'm sure there's people from other apps that are going to be celebrating this, but also, i've spoken to some parents who have said that they feel like they've lost their children because of this app. they feel like they can't hold their attention anymore. they feel like some teachers have said that young people's reading abilities have reduced because of tiktok. i mean, what would you say to those who are celebrating this? >> well, i would say for every person that has, you know, lost
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attention span or hasn't, you know, been talking to their parents as much, there are probably at least ten, 15, 20, 100 individuals on tiktok who've learned to open their communication with their parents, who've opened themselves to new books and new cultures and new learnings. i'm included in that. i, as many millions of people on tiktok know, have really opened my relationship with my own immigrant parents as a result of tiktok, and i've learned so much about all sorts of different cuisines because of tiktok. so i would say that, look, if you have problems reaching your children or your students, it's not just tiktok. there are all sorts of social media distractions out there that are probably doing just as much harm in that regard. >> i said some shade in there, joanne. >> i called it i called it. well, thank you so, so much for joining me for now. and i wish you the best in building back that community, regardless of what happens over the next few
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hours and days. thank you for joining me. >> thank you so much. >> you're so welcome. okay, well, let's keep on going with this story. i want to bring in cnn's mark stuart, who is live in beijing. mark, thank you for joining me again. we're obviously still talking about this news. we're still leading on it. this is what the third hour we're going into now. um, i just wonder, is there any reaction about this from china yet are very limited reaction. >> shinhwa, which is the state's main news agency, cctv, which is the main television network here they are acknowledging that this shutdown happened. they are reporting that the shutdown occurred, but that is it. no response from government officials? no. no additional insight. there. but keep in mind that state media, these organizations are the government's messenger service. so people here are aware that this has happened.
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maybe we'll get some more insight at a government briefing that's held every afternoon at 3 p.m. here in beijing. that's possible. but when it's been brought up in recent days, the government really has been sticking to some of the past sticking points. um, talking points, i should say, then, like the u.s. has been acting like a bully. it doesn't respect free markets. it's wrong that there are national security concerns. those are the lines that we have been hearing. um, as of our last reporting check. i mean, this is a platform that its chinese owner, bytedance, says is still not up for sale. and as we've been discussing over the last few hours, a sale is really a lofty ask because it's not about really the dollars and cents in all of this. it's about the algorithm, tiktok's ability to try to get some insight about what you're thinking and what you might be thinking next, and that will direct you to the content that you see. and that's something
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that the company may not necessarily be willing to part with. in fact, it has not been willing to part with. but then it is getting attention here. people on social media are following this. in fact, um, a lot of people are praising tiktok and its ceo for not backing down to this ultimatum presented from the united states. >> well, not backing down just yet, but we're going to see what happens over the next few hours and days because everything keeps changing. mark, what is going on for now? thank you for joining me. i'm sure we're going to speak again very, very soon. okay. when we return, the celebrations begin as donald trump prepares to take the oath of office for a second time. >> the thing about emergency medicine, you never know what you're going to get. i need help here. >> even though you do everything right, you don't always get what you hope for.
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changing after the ceremony was moved indoors at the last minute. we're now learning that people will be allowed to watch part of trump's motorcade travel to the white house, even though thousands of ticket holders will not be able to watch the inauguration in person. meanwhile, trump says he plans to get to work very quickly. cnn's alayna treene has more on what to expect after he's sworn in. >> well, president elect donald trump and his team are planning a slate of executive orders to be issued on his first day in office, some of which, i'm told are actually expected to be signed by him immediately after being sworn in at the capitol rotunda. but then more as well to be issued later in the day. now, one of the biggest issues that some of these early orders are going to be focused on, i'm told, is all about immigration. now, donald trump has promised repeatedly throughout his time on the campaign trail to try and round up illegal immigrants in this country and deport them. and that's exactly what some of this early action is
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going to look like. we're told that you should expect ice raids through major metropolitan cities, sweeps through cities like washington, d.c., chicago and denver. and donald trump actually addressed some of this in an interview with nbc. on saturday, he said essentially, that he wants to begin very early, very quickly with some of these actions and some of these cities, but wouldn't say exactly where. now, some of the other actions, we're told, related to immigration, as well as donald trump and his team are considering a national emergency declaration to try and free up some of the resources from the pentagon to be sent to the southern border, as well as looking at different asylum restrictions and really rolling back some of what joe biden has done, some of which, of course, was him undoing what donald trump had done during his first time in office. now, we did hear from one of donald trump's advisers on saturday, speaking with cnn's jessica dean, really walking through some of this action that is expected to be taken. take a listen. >> when you go back to the campaign trail, what president trump would talk about is that
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local law enforcement really knows where the criminal illegals are. and so partnering up with local law enforcement to make sure that we go and target the folks who are the really bad actors, we're talking the transnational gang members. we're talking to people that we know that are criminal illegals that are here in this country, that, quite frankly, are a danger to society. >> now, you heard miller tell jessica there that really one of the big focuses is going to be on targeting illegal immigrants who have committed crimes in this country. that is definitely a big focus, i'm told, for donald trump on day one, but not all of those early executive orders are going to be focused on immigration. i'm told there's also going to be some orders focused on trade and the economy, as well as energy. so a lot that donald trump is planning to do on day one, just shortly after being sworn in. alayna treene cnn washington. >> the cease fire between israel and hamas was scheduled to begin just minutes from now, but israeli prime minister
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stephanie elam in pacific palisades, and this is cnn. >> the israel-hamas ceasefire is scheduled to begin at any moment now. but israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu says he's told the israeli military that the cease fire will not begin until israel has received the names of hostages, that hamas will release. right now, hundreds of aid trucks are at the rafah border crossing. they'll enter gaza as soon as the fighting stops. under the agreement, hamas is to release three of them on sunday. israel is to release 95 palestinians. it's been holding prisoner. each side will release more in the coming weeks. israeli troops are preparing for a gradual withdrawal from some parts of gaza. the agreement calls for them to move to a buffer zone away from populated areas. meanwhile, palestinian civil defense is warning people that even if the troops are gone, the areas might not be safe. >> for those in gaza city planning to return to northern
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gaza, as well as those in southern areas heading toward rafah or eastern regions along the border. we strongly urge caution. as is customary, israeli forces often leave behind remnants of war in these areas, which, if disturbed, could result in fatal consequences. >> well, cnn's nadia bashir is live in jerusalem for us. nadia, this ceasefire is supposed to go into effect literally right now. what are you hearing about? what happens next? >> that's right. there has been some questions as to whether or not this will remain firmly in place, whether we will see the cease fire being enforced as planned, as you mentioned. it is expected to go into force right now, but there have been questions around the terms of the agreement, namely the release of the names of hostages to be released by hamas from captivity in this first initial phase, which is set to last for six weeks. now, we have heard reports that we have seen israeli forces withdrawing from parts of rafah in the south. so potentially a
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positive sign there. but we have heard from the israeli prime minister's office warning that that ceasefire cannot fully begin until they receive that full list of names of hostages to be released in this first phase. hamas officials have meanwhile said that they remain firmly committed to this ceasefire agreement. they have blamed technical difficulties or technical issues for the delay in the release of those names. and, of course, important to remember that the exchange that we're seeing taking place today, hopefully, and of course, over the coming weeks, reflects somewhat the exchange that we saw back in november 2023, when we saw that four day truce between israel and hamas. we saw the release of some hostages in exchange for palestinian prisoners and detainees. now, during that period, we also saw some delays in the implementation of the agreement. in terms of the release of hostages. there were days where we would see the names of hostages and the names of palestinian prisoners and detainees released very late into the day. so there were some issues, some uncertainty. details very much up in the
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air. so it is not surprising, perhaps, that we are seeing this now. but of course there is a lot of pressure on this deal getting to getting to work as soon as possible. a lot of questions still up in the air. and of course, in terms of the framework, in terms of what we're expecting to see today, the hope is that three israeli hostages will be released from captivity in gaza by hamas following their release and their return into israeli territory. that's when we can expect to see the release of some palestinian prisoners and detainees. now, over the course of the next six weeks, we're expecting to see hundreds of palestinian prisoners and detainees released. and, of course, 33 israeli hostages released. today. we are expecting around 95 palestinian prisoners and detainees to be released. that includes 70 women, 25 men, among them ten minors under the age of 18. important to underscore at least 30 of them have been held under administrative detention, a deeply controversial practice which essentially means there are no charges laid against them and no ongoing legal
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process. but of course, this is all dependent on the terms of that agreement being upheld. and on, of course, hamas releasing those names as soon as possible. and of course, this all going to plan, as is hoped by so many. >> yes, indeed. well, we're going to be following the latest. i'm sure we'll be speaking to you very soon. nadia bashir in jerusalem. thank you so much. let's stick with this story. i'm going to bring in sahar hassan, a fellow with the middle east program at the carnegie endowment for international peace. she joins us now from washington. thank you so much for being with me. i mean, how are you feeling about all of this? >> look, we have to be hopeful. this has been a very long road to get here. i mean, it's been 15 months of just every day bombardment of gaza. every day, civilians being killed, mainly women and children. so there's a lot riding on the ceasefire, holding yet. >> i mean, in netanyahu's
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televised speech, just hours before the ceasefire was due to start, he stressed that the ceasefire was, quote, temporary and israel reserved the right to resume resume strikes in gaza. that, to me, felt like a bit of a backpedal. i just wonder, what are your thoughts on all of that and what could be about to happen? >> right. i mean, i think he's speaking to his ultra right wing flank. there that has threatened to pull out from the government. and, you know, dissolve the coalition. possibly. so he's trying to shore up confidence with that right wing and assure them that, you know, this is just really about an exchange of prisoners and hostages. and it's not a permanent cease fire because they don't want a permanent ceasefire. >> well, let's actually talk about that. so the fact that this ceasefire, if it does go ahead, do you think that it will actually hold? and if it does hold, then who's going to actually enforce that?
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>> look, i, i don't have a lot of confidence in really it's going to be a permanent ceasefire. no. just, uh, you know, yesterday there was a presser that was held by the minister who has responsibility over the occupied territories. this is bezalel smotrich, and he promised that this was not going to be a situation in which the israelis leave gaza. he said the idea is to make gaza uninhabitable for palestinians, thereby forcing them out. so there is no there is no world in which that ultra right wing is going to. stay partners with netanyahu, unless gaza is is back on the table in terms of recolonizing, it. >> i have to say, it's sad to to hear you speak in negatively, but i get this. this is real, right? this is this is months and months and months of planning. what does this mean for the future of the
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palestinian authority and the israeli government to i mean, i don't want to leave on a on a negative note because i want to really recognize just how joyful palestinians were at waking up today and not hearing the sounds of drones and quadcopters above them. >> this was the first time in in 15 months, but we have to be realistic about the. situation. um, the israeli government is intent on pursuing annexation of the west bank. they're taking steps to diminish and degrade the palestinian authority. it's bankrupt and unable to function, and they don't want them coming in to take over gaza because they have plans and designs on gaza as well. and so i think we have to just be really sober in thinking about what the future is going to hold. >> as you said, there are people were celebrating this just yesterday. i was saying earlier that we were seeing
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people in the streets celebrating in gaza, and it seems really jubilant, really joyful. it did take over 15 months to reach this agreement, and it feels like president trump or president-elect trump coming in has massively influenced this, because it's suddenly come out of what seems to be nowhere. how crucial was the incoming trump administration in all of this? do you think? >> oh, trump, the president-elect trump was everything to securing the ceasefire. there was no doubt with the israelis that trump would use the leverage of the office of the presidency to compel them to a ceasefire deal. now, we had this cease fire deal on the table back in may, end of may, and hamas had accepted it in july. and netanyahu then added new terms. and that that ended up delaying the cease fire agreement until today. and the
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biden administration was unwilling to put any pressure on israel to take the deal at that time. back in july. and so we are now in a situation in which tens of thousands more people had have perished because of it. so trump was instrumental. he was critical in this, uh, you know, the israeli prime minister believes trump will exert pressure on him and believes trump wants to end the ongoing conflict and wants to see a deal. ultimately, that brings in the entire region. and so i think it can't be understated how influential trump was on netanyahu getting to this point. >> interesting. well, i'm going to wrap that for now. thank you so much. zahra hassan in washington. i was going to say thank you for joining me. and, uh, staying up late for me, but i'm sure you're not going to be going to bed any time soon as you wait and see what happens next. but thank you for now. >> thank you.
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>> so welcome families of americans held in gaza met on saturday with u.s. national security officials. they spoke with members of the biden administration and president elect donald trump's incoming administration. a source tells cnn that family members shared concerns about ensuring that the hostage agreement is carried out. a trump official told them it's a top priority for trump's team. hamas is believed to be holding three americans in gaza, and it has the remains of four others. earlier, cnn political and foreign policy analyst barak ravid spoke with cnn about mr. netanyahu's relationship with the u.s. under donald trump and his political future at home. >> netanyahu is in is not in a good political situation. the vast majority of israelis think that he is responsible. he's one of the main people responsible for the failure of october 7th. in almost every poll. the majority of israelis say that netanyahu needs to resign and that early elections
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need to take place. donald trump knows that very well, and he knows donald trump knows how to, um, uh, how to deal with people that he sees politically fragile. i think this will have a lot of influence on the relationship. and in 42 days, netanyahu will have to decide if he's moving to phase two of this deal. and this means that he will have to choose between donald trump and his ultra nationalist coalition partners, bezalel smotrich and itamar ben gvir, and at any juncture until now, since the beginning of the war, netanyahu chose ben-gvir and smotrich over, uh, the president of the united states. i'm not sure he'll be able to do that with the incoming president. >> threats from wildfire have eased in los angeles, but coping with the devastation is just the beginning. that story, when we come back.
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and palisades fires. about 41,000 people were still affected by evacuation orders in los angeles as of saturday. that's down from more than 170,000 at the height of the wildfires. and as conditions on the ground improve in los angeles, many are now faced with what to do in the aftermath of such devastation. cnn's julia vargas jones has more from altadena. >> more than ten days after both the eaton and the palisades fire started, in some areas that were previously under evacuation are now open to residents. still, 41,000 people across l.a. county under these evacuation orders and warnings. but in santa monica, some good news the pacific coast highway is open to local traffic and all curfews and evacuation warnings are now lifted as these residents begin to come home or to what's left of their homes. many will need help to rebuild, sometimes entire neighborhoods. governor gavin newsom announced
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launched 39 drones and four missiles overnight. on saturday, officials in the city of zaporizhzhia say a missile attack killed one person and wounded 11. the head of the regional military administration posted this video you're seeing now on social media showing the destruction of businesses and residential buildings there, and the governor of the neighboring kherson region says two more people were killed by russian attacks there. a south korean court has extended president yoon suk yeol detention for up to 20 days, citing concerns mr. yoon may destroy evidence relating to his own insurrection case. sunday's court ruled sparked violent protests. hundreds of supporters stormed the court in the middle of the night, smashing windows and assaulting police officers, according to local reports. president yoon is facing a criminal probe into his short lived declaration of martial law that happened last month. he's the first sitting president as south korean president, even to be arrested. the embattled president has already been impeached and
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stripped of his powers, who back? >> we want to back. we won't go back. we won't go back. we won't go back. >> that's the sound of protests in the u.s. capital. thousands marched in washington, dc on saturday to express their anger at donald trump's policies and his return to the white house, but turnout at saturday's people's march was smaller than the women's march in 2017. still, many people wore the pink hats seen at previous anti-trump marches. demonstrators walked past the white house and onto the national mall for a rally. a few women spoke with cnn about why they were participating. >> i wanted to be back as a witness, that we are not happy with. who's going to be coming into the white house, we are going to be working with and for the people that the trump cabinet and presidency is
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going to be affecting. and i'm talking about immigrants, lgbtq, we can make a difference if we just keep coming out and speaking up and doing our homework at home and out here and every way we can. >> two massive winter storms will have much of the united states facing serious freezing weather for the next few days, and that includes washington, d.c., where the presidential inauguration is set to take place. cnn meteorologist allison chinchar has the forecast. >> the inauguration is set for monday in washington, d.c., and it is expected to be bitter cold. the high temperature only likely making it up to 25 degrees when you factor in that northwest wind. it is going to feel like it is only in the single digits. this would make it the coldest inauguration since ronald reagan's second inauguration back in 1985, when the temperature was only in the single digits. now all of this cold air is coming in behind
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the cold front that's expected to bring rain and snow along the east coast as we go into the day on sunday, and that cold air is really going to drop. look at minneapolis. these are low temperatures, not the windchill. the temperatures themselves -17 in minneapolis tuesday morning. it's going to get down to 11 degrees tuesday morning in washington, d.c., the high temperatures not much better. even some southern cities like atlanta, for example, is barely going to make it above the freezing mark as we head into the early portion of this week. now, the rain and snow component to that front mostly rain on the south side where those temperatures will be mild at least on sunday. further north, that cold air is in place. you're going to see snow for portions of the mid-atlantic as well as the northeast. and yes, that does include washington, d.c., baltimore, and even philadelphia. the snow itself will be out entirely by the time we get to late monday morning, but that cold air sweeps in behind it, which means any of the snow that likely falls is going to be there for quite some time.
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>> all right. well, that's all i've got for you. thank you for joining us for cnn newsroom. i'm ben hunt in atlanta. it's been heavy, but it's been real. let's do it again next saturday. until then, feel free to come and join me on social media at ben in london. and cnn newsroom will continue next. see you next week. >> after a big comeback, donald trump begins his second term. >> history unfolds live on cnn. join jake tapper and anderson cooper as the 45th president. >> i, donald john trump becomes the 47th. >> the inauguration of donald trump monday at eight on cnn. want a next level clean swish with the whoa of listerine? it kills 99.9% of bad breath germs for five times more cleaning power than brushing and flossing alone. get a next level clean with listerine. feel the whoa, my grandfather's run. >> maya the hatter for over 75 years now 99 years old. and
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