tv Erin Burnett Out Front CNN January 19, 2025 4:00pm-5:00pm PST
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>> welcome back to cnn's special coverage. we just heard trump speak at a victory rally here in washington, and we're learning some new details about tomorrow, his inauguration day at 9:40 a.m. eastern. trump and incoming first lady melania trump are expected to arrive at the white house for a tea and coffee reception hosted by the bidens. then the bidens and trumps will travel together to the capitol for the inauguration ceremony, which will be held inside the capitol rotunda. it will be a moment that was not afforded to president biden when he took the oath of office four years ago. and i'll be out there bright and early at saint john's church very early, starting at 7 a.m. our special coverage. thank you so much for joining us. i'm pamela brown, cnn special coverage continues with am burnett out front right now.
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>> and outfront next, the breaking news, president-elect trump, in a nearly 60 minute speech hours before he takes the oath of office. a marathon sprint that he's going through this next day. >> tonight, promising to fix quote, every single crisis facing america. >> and we have new details tonight on what that actually means in terms of what trump will do in the first hours of his presidency. plus, january 6th, defendants and supporters renting a group house in washington together, waiting for trump to pardon the rioters. we're going to take you inside that house in a story you'll see first out front. that is an incredible one. and more breaking news this hour. the freedom for three hostages released by hamas after 15 minutes, 15 months of captivity in exchange for 90 palestinian prisoners. who is next? will this fragile ceasefire hold a special report from on the ground tonight? let's go out front.
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and good evening. i'm erin burnett, and welcome to this special edition of outfront on this sunday. tonight, the breaking news, trump's vow to fix every single crisis. in his words, the president elect just wrapping up his inauguration speech in washington, the culmination of his unprecedented political comeback. in just hours, he will once again take the oath of office for president of the united states, becoming the nation's 47th president. so 45 and 47, his numbers. the ceremony moved from the steps of the capitol to the capitol rotunda indoors, due to the dangerously cold weather. once trump reclaims the title of commander in chief, there will be radical change in washington and across the country, and it will unfold fast and furiously. we are just learning about an incredible slew of executive orders that trump plans to sign. they include a swift end to many of biden's policies. anything he can do by executive order, it seems essentially,
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he's going to try to do. it's something he just spoke about. >> we're going to stop the destructive and divisive diversity, equity and inclusion mandates, the invasion of our borders will have come to a halt tomorrow. everybody in this very large arena will be very happy with my decision on the j. six hostages. i will direct our military to begin construction of the great iron dome missile defense shield. >> now, trump's vice president, j.d. vance, was on the program, scheduled to speak, but he never did. he was on the program. like i said, he did not speak, but one person did speak. that person was, well, essentially what has become trump's governing partner at this moment, at least as we see it, elon musk, come here, elon, did you see his rocket
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yesterday? >> it was captured r and x is with him x come on you let's say a couple of words okay. >> thank you thank you thank you mr. president. um sorry. little x just followed me on the stage here. he's he's a very enthusiastic supporter. >> as you can see. who? yeah. >> and trump getting the sendoff tonight from the village people performing y.m.c.a. as trump danced in the back. and they've spoken about it. i'm saying they didn't vote for trump, but they wanted to do this for the unity of the country they've chosen to perform. and there they are with ymca, they said, because he genuinely seems to love it, which he does. jeff zeleny is out front live in washington to begin our coverage. jeff, you were there for that 60 minute long speech. you know, some people might try to go shorter because they got a long day tomorrow, but not this president elect. he is. he spoke tonight. he will speak tomorrow. this is a moment that
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he is going to relish every second of. what was the message tonight? >> aaron. good evening. the village people ymca. that sound really echoed throughout this arena. and we've seen that at so many campaign rallies. tonight was really no different. it was actually shorter than trump's campaign rallies usually were during the campaign. but look, the moment and the setting was told you everything you need to know tomorrow at this time. all those executive orders, as you said, will be signed into law. but trump also inherits all the problems that he has been talking about for so long. and he kind of encapsulated that. he said, you know, that he will fix all of these, these crises. so the governing challenge starts tomorrow. but today was a moment of celebration, and it was quite extraordinary to see the 45th and soon to be 47th president up there dancing with the village people. he, of course, did that at rallies to their music, but never alongside them. i believe there was only one original member of the band who was actually
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performing on stage tonight. but never mind any of that. president trump was talking specifically about some of the executive orders he intends to do on immigration. i think one of the biggest questions hanging over his entire inauguration as it goes inside tomorrow, inside the very capitol building where his supporters essentially ransacked. and, you know, so many were arrested and charged and jailed. how many pardons does he issue on that score? he he teased that a bit here tonight. and he said, you'll be very happy with the outcome. the crowd cheered. but that is a question because some republicans on capitol hill, they have told me repeatedly they are not comfortable with the very violent offenders being pardoned. so we shall see. but aaron, going into tomorrow, we are going to see president-elect trump at the white house first and foremost. then he and president biden, i'm told, will be driving together in a motorcade up to capitol hill. of course, something that donald trump did not afford. joe biden four years ago. >> no, no, it's the
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graciousness with which the transfer of power in this country has always, except for that time taken place. and it is a good thing that it's happening. jeff zeleny, thank you very much. tim pawlenty, jamal simmons, lulu garcia-navarro with me. so, jamal. okay, trump went through in this speech a list of things he was going to do. now, it's familiar from his campaign speeches. but he said on, you know, immediately. right. day one day is going away. the border invasion is ending january 6th. pardons all of this. now, just some context. joe biden signed nine executive orders on his first day. trump last time around, actually only signed one. believe the record holder is harry truman. you got to give him 100 days to even get 54. yeah, it is possible tomorrow that trump just blows through that number on the first day. you could be about to see a spectacular and stupendous breaking of tradition. >> it is possible, you know, first i got to commend jeff zeleny for getting this out of that village people cul de sac that we were about to go into. >> listen, i think what donald trump's going to do is something that i think we have
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not really seen before, which is really take the american government in a really very radically different direction. >> and all of us will be sort of playing catch up as this thing goes along. yeah, i was struck watching his speech earlier today that nobody likes a sore loser. but this guy is kind of a sore winner, right? >> like he won the election. >> he's done the hardest thing there is to do in american politics. he did it twice. and he got up there and he kind of had to go through all the campaign events and talk about what he did and how it all worked out. he even talked about he made up numbers. >> he said he won the youth vote, which is not true. he lost the youth vote by four points to kamala harris. >> so, you know, you hope donald trump at this moment would take the the pride of it, take the excitement of it, and then talk about how he's going to make the country better, and he's going to be judged by costs and by inflation. that's where i think americans are going to judge him by, not by some of the more hard, right notions that he's been talking about. >> and he's mentioned, i mean, in a recent interview, governor pawlenty, he said he won because of grocery prices, right? that's that's how he saw it, at least at that moment. but we might see tomorrow
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something we've never seen before, just in terms, i mean, you know, we don't know, but it could be an incredible amount of executive orders, which would be a transformational, transformational moment for the government. it's one thing to say i'm going to do it really differently. it's another thing to come in and toss out a nuke at it in the first hour, really set a different tone, though. >> aaron let the transition difference between this time and last time. >> last time you went around the country, did rallies, took a long time to make appointments, appointed what many people consider to be traditionalists as cabinet members this time kind of hunkered down in florida, named his nominees to the cabinet quickly, and got these executive orders ready quickly. and i think this is going to send the message, we are going to take action, we're going to take it quickly. and he won the election principally because of inflation, illegal immigration, crime and wokeness run amok. and i think you're going to hear a lot about that through these executive orders in the coming week. >> i disagree with that. on one point. >> i know those were the issues that he talked about a lot. >> the people that i talked to who were really biden voters, and they switched and they voted for trump. it was really just about inflation. it really wasn't about those social issues. and i think if he doesn't actually figure out a way to bring prices down, he's
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going to be in for a lot of trouble. >> i meant to say inflation, i didn't, i think you did, but but, but but it's not the whole basket of issues. >> i really do think the cost issues, economic issues are the ones that drove this election well. >> and of course, those are very hard for a president to control. um, lulu, he also was trademarked trump in some ways. but just to give to presage perhaps what we're going to see, here's a little bit more of what he just said. one part really stood out. here it is. >> starting tomorrow, i will act with historic speed and strength and fix every single crisis facing our country. we have to do it. we're not going to have a country like. before even taking office. you are already seeing results that nobody expected to see. everyone is calling it the i don't want to say this, it's too braggadocious, but we'll say it anyway. the trump effect. >> the trump effect. >> so there's this thing,
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right? which is under-promise and overdeliver. trump turns that on his head and it's like overpromise. and naturally everyone is going to under-deliver because no one can fix every problem in america. but the thing that is, i think his special gift is to take something like the economy that joe biden is handing over, which is an economy that is pretty strong. prices are high. but the, you know, and take credit for it say that, yes, wage growth is also a reality. yeah. all these things and the border is much more secure than it was a year ago. it's the lowest number of crossings that there's been since 2020. so you're taking a country that is actually in a pretty good place. and he's saying, you know what? it's all because of me. and so, you know, as we it is it is classic trump. but this is this is the high point. this is the high point for for donald trump. because the minute that you step into the job, it all becomes your burden to bear. and you're judged on by what you do. and i think
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that's what these 100 executive orders are meant to show, which is this whole thing that they've been saying shock and awe, shock and awe, shock and awe. we're going to just blanket everyone with what we want to do, and everyone is going to be stunned. >> there is something governor pawlenty, though, in the executive orders that is imperialistic just in its the visuals of it, right? i mean, we have congress. they're the ones who are supposed to do this. executive orders make a lot of people nauseous to begin with, because the whole point is, well, i thought we're supposed to have congress, right? and presidents use them. some may say abuse them, whatever. but coming in like this, doesn't that also send a message to congress? >> yes. but it also sends another message, which is we as americans, many of us are unsatisfied with business as usual. and this is president trump saying, we're not doing this the usual way. we're not doing it with the usual speed. we're not doing it with the usual expectations. and we may unsettle traditional thinking. but that's exactly what his supporters want, and he's going to deliver on it. he has set up for success. >> but there's this thing that we know that those around donald trump, jd vance and
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others have wanted, which is a kind of imperial presidency, which is a presidency which is going to concentrate a lot of the power in donald trump. and you've seen that in his cabinet appointments, and you've seen that in how he's dealt with congress. he wants to be the person in control, and he wants everything around him to be subservient to that. and there's a lot of people around him who want to see that as well. >> so and then there's also the whole role of the vice president. and i, and i raise this, jamal, because he was on the program today, the vice president, ellen. >> yeah, exactly. >> so, i mean, i struggle for the words for ellen because he doesn't have an official title. what is he, the closest adviser or is he the partner? what is he for? trump. but whatever he is, he's the guy who got to walk out on the stage tonight and talk. and that was not the vice president. he was the one who came out and he brought his child, as he has done before. and then he said this. >> yeah. so anyway, we're going to we're going to do great things here. um, thank you.
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thank you. >> thank you. ellen. >> you know, i always say we have to be protective of our geniuses because we don't have too many. but that one is a good one. >> i mean, jamal, jd vance musk. you saw musk, right? he comes out to a hero's welcome. the president elect gave him some time of his 60 minutes. maybe it was less than a minute, but he got time. jd vance was was there but did not get on stage. >> yeah, it was the elon interlude, right. >> we had all these things. we had the ymca issue. but and here elon musk got a chance to go up on stage and talk in the middle of the in the middle of this rally. i wonder was that part of the deal when he contributed all that money to donald trump's campaign and helping him get elected? remember, he was standing on stage promising people $1 million, right? if they came and registered. so this is a
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this is something i think we all have to be concerned about is this oligarchy that is kind of coming in and the cabinets, the richest cabinet i think we've ever seen, a lot of billionaires everywhere are almost billionaires everywhere. and, you know, and one last point, he made this point about these executive orders about, by the way, donald trump talks about diversity and inclusion. is that it by necessity means you're going to have people who are less qualified. but the only reason that we ever got somebody like colin powell, who got to be chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, is because jimmy carter, when he got handed a list of colonels, said there were no african american colonels on that list. and his secretary of the army, cliff alexander, said, go back and let's find some more people. and they brought back names. and one of those names was colin powell. he ended up being one of the biggest stellar people in our entire american government for generations. that's what this is really about. this is not about finding people who are unqualified, right? >> it gets they have shortchanged short handed it to to say that because you're doing that, you're not you're not picking on merit. all right, governor, thank you very much. jamal. lulu all staying with me. but next, trump saving tiktok. so that was a quick thing, i guess everyone, you
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>> breaking news president elect trump moments ago taking a victory lap after tiktok's triumphant return. >> as of today, tiktok is back. i said we need to save tiktok because we're talking about a tremendous who in this audience goes with tiktok? many, yeah, very popular. and frankly, we have no choice. we have to save it. >> tiktok ceo shou zi chew at that rally tonight ahead of trump's inauguration. his appearance just hours after tiktok came back online in the u.s. after just 12 hours offline. the welcome back message that appears right now on the app reads thank you for your patience and support. as a result of president trump's efforts, tiktok is back in the u.s. marc caputo with axios has some of the best sources in the trump camp, and he's with me now, marc, and you've got new reporting on what actually is going on behind the scenes when it comes to tiktok and why trump has had such a dramatic
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turnaround. i mean, he was the one who started out saying the app had to be banned and now he's the one, you know, taking credit for its triumphant return yes, sometimes it's tough to follow exactly where donald trump is on things, because he's liable to change his mind and rather quickly. >> there's basically three things that are in play here. one thing during the campaign, he met with jeffrey yass, who is a large investor in tiktok, and jeffrey yass was a supporter of donald trump's. but more importantly, his advisers point out, is that donald trump has a tendency to look for his enemies and find the enemy of his enemies and make those enemies his friends. the enemy of my enemy is my friend, and at the time, during the campaign, donald trump saw as his biggest enemy. facebook. he really didn't like mark zuckerberg. now, obviously, there's been a thaw since, and trump saw tiktok as a way to triangulate off of facebook and basically keep facebook from sort of owning the market. now, obviously, twitter played a role in this as well. and then
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the last thing is trump's campaign did the research and found that young voters are heavily influenced and heavily on tiktok. that is where to find young voters and the young men that donald trump saw as a key to his victory. so he embraced it. and trump won. so he went from sort of liking tiktok as a way to sort of keep his opponent off balance to loving tiktok because it helped deliver the white house to him, which is amazing. >> i mean, as you pointed out. but it's it's in a sense, chess, but it is all in what he thinks is best for him and for the people who support him. but, you know, today on stage with him was elon musk tonight for that, for that speech. and musk has talked about possibly buying tiktok, which again would be pocket change for him were he to do so. he posted about tiktok this morning. musk that is i have been against a tiktok ban for a long time because it goes against freedom of speech. that said, the current situation where tiktok is allowed to operate in america but x is not allowed to operate in china, is unbalanced.
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something needs to change. um, so is it. where is this headed? i mean, is it musk is playing a game where somehow with all of trump's chips with china, it's going to be twitter that that benefits and must that benefits. or you know, where do you think this is going? >> well, i don't know where it's going in china. my expertise certainly ends at the waterfront. i would find it hard to believe president xi would suddenly say, okay, sure, we're going to have an unsanctioned social media app open. so that is a matter to be resolved at a later date. more importantly, elon musk is on stage with donald trump for a reason. is twitter is back for donald trump and the management of elon musk during the campaign with twitter certainly let trump back on and relax some of the, for lack of a better term, censorship of the right on twitter. and that was also very helpful to donald trump and something he appreciated greatly. >> all right, mark, thank you very much. i appreciate it. i want to go out front now to john bolton, former trump national security advisor and
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former u.s. ambassador to the u.n. and ambassador, i want to ask you about several things, but let me just start with tiktok. since mark was doing, was just sharing some of the reporting there. tiktok is back up. it's a triumphant return. trump is taking credit for it. he wants maybe some sort of a joint venture with china on owning it. it is ironic to hear elon musk talk about free speech, because obviously tiktok comes from a country which does not have free speech. when you hear all of this, though, that trump wants to make deals with, with with china, that the chinese vice president is going to be at the inauguration, tiktok is back up and running. do you think it all makes sense, or is there something ominous or worrisome in it to you? >> well, i think it makes sense from trump's point of view. let's start with basics, which need repeating time and again. trump has no philosophy. he has no grand strategy. he doesn't do policy. he does what benefits donald trump. and in this case, he did see tiktok as giving him advantages in the
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campaign. and i think, as has been reported, he now yearns to go back to china. and what better, what better present to present to his good friend xi jinping than saying, i have saved tiktok? anybody who is worried about american national security has to be very worried about what trump has done, because the main problem with tiktok has nothing to do with what appears on its platform. but the fact that it is a vacuum cleaner for china's intelligence agencies. and i think it's also significant that in the past couple of days, a number of republicans have stood up against what trump is saying. for those who delight in saying the republican party has become totally recumbent in the presence of trump, senator cotton and senator ricketts have sent made a statement that that under the terms of the law dealing with tiktok, there is no legal authority for trump to give a 90 day reprieve. and speaker johnson said
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essentially the same thing this morning. so we're headed for a real confrontation here between those who understand that tiktok is a threat to american national security and donald trump, and which is going to be which is going to be crucial because trump has already indicated china is going to be obviously, as it would have to be, but front and center for him. >> you know, you talk about that as a threat to national security. let me talk about a national threat to national security. that is, of course, much more tangible. and that is actually missiles. okay. trump saying moments ago he's going to build an iron dome missile defense system like israel has now. of course, for israel it's for short range missiles. it is because their country is small. it's for missiles coming in from close distances. it does not work for intercontinental ballistic missiles, which would be those threatening the u.s. unless they're coming from canada or mexico. um, so so in other words, the word iron dome. i mean, there's been efforts, as you know, better than anyone for icbm missile defense in the u.s. on the western coast from korea and
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elsewhere over the years. so does this actually mean anything big, using the words iron dome for the u.s.? >> well, we were major funders of iron dome, both in terms of its research and production and much of what iron dome does. we've had for a long time with egis missiles, high theater, high altitude air defense systems. so if there's better technology, if we can expand our theater missile defense capabilities, it's all to the good. what we should have done more of in the first trump term, and maybe he'll do more in the second, is not theater missile defense. it's national missile defense. that's why in in the george w. bush administration. and i was proud to be the lead negotiator. we got out of the anti-ballistic missile treaty of 1972 so we could build national missile defenses. we're now threatened not only by the russian capability, but by a growing and extremely threatening chinese capability. we're moving from a bipolar nuclear
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world to a tripolar nuclear world, which is which is inconceivably more dangerous. so i'm glad. glad he wants better theater missile defense. what we really need to stress in a vastly increased defense budget is national missile defense to protect our innocent civilians here at home. >> and that's something that you just think hasn't been done. i mean, because i'm just saying there are many programs and we hear updates all the time on how the west coast, when there's, you know, they'll run practice on on icbms coming in from korea or china. and frankly, it doesn't always perform that well, but it's not as if it's something that hasn't been a focus. >> well, it hasn't been adequately focused. and remember, joe biden and john kerry, who was part of his administration, were among the senators who in the george w bush administration opposed getting out of the abm treaty and setting up national missile defense because they said, you can't hit a bullet with a bullet. that's what they said. and they were dead wrong. so i hope that the that the lack of attention that it's gotten since, since the last, since
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the really the bush administration is reversed. it's very important if you ask people in the united states what matters most, it's it's their defense. and if we don't have adequate missile defense capabilities and we don't, it's our population that's most at risk. >> yes. although, of course, this is a pretty grim conversation. i can only imagine a world in which icbms are actually coming in over u.s. cities is not a world that any of us would recognize. >> well, think about it again. this this is very serious, which is why intelligence is important for china as well as its growing ballistic missile capabilities. >> all right. well, ambassador bolton, i appreciate your time. thank you. >> thank you. >> next, inside a home where january 6th, supporters and defendants are staying tonight on inauguration eve, they are anxiously together. they've gathered together to in this house to await word of trump's pardons. plus, congressman james clyburn, emotional as he speaks about his good friend president biden. joe biden.
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>> breaking news pardons for some january 6th defendants are now imminent. donald trump telling his supporters tonight they will be, quote, very, very happy with his decision. and sources are telling cnn tonight that trump has a slate of pardons ready to go as soon as he takes the oath of office tomorrow. and his supporters expect this. and some are planning for a celebratory homecoming for those behind bars are elle reeve has this amazing story that you will see first here, out front. thank you. >> hello, this is the jan six house. we call it the eagle's nest. >> we were spending just so much time on the road, so we were like, hey, let's move into dc. >> you know, it's a bit of a safe haven. >> this rental house near capitol hill has become a meeting place for jan six. supporters and participants. >> isn't it kind of like a little shocking? >> nobody's taking anything passing through our people with court dates or who just got out of jail, or their supporters. >> this activism is all culminating with the second
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inauguration of donald trump, who they expect on his first day in office will pardon many or all of those incarcerated for their activities. on january 6th, 2021. >> there are men behind jan six in prisons all over this country, and it is our plan to have somebody there to greet every one of them. >> when president trump says that these guys can get out, either their sentences commuted or whatever the process is, i'll be driving to maryland and picking up stewart rhodes, who is the founder of the oath keepers, and get him out of there. what are your hopes in terms of pardons? >> i think a commutation, and then let's see who gets pardoned. you know, everyone's due process was violated. but, you know, there were wrongdoers, so they should be held accountable, too. >> the house is led by micki witthoeft. she's the mother of ashli babbitt, who was shot and killed by police on jan six in front of the speaker's lobby, as well as nicole reffitt, whose husband was prosecuted after her son turned him in. they spent the weekend before inauguration day preparing for
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a packed house. >> my phone rang and i could barely get to my phone, so i considered not answering it and it said west palm beach, florida. >> and i was like, i don't know anybody in west palm beach, florida. >> but it turns out it was president trump. >> trump got her tickets to his outdoor inauguration ceremony, which are now just a memento because the swearing in was moved indoors. >> the back fancy too early on, we were hated by everybody, or so it seemed. >> nobody supported us. nobody talked about us, no politicians, no media. >> even the conservative side was like, whoa, this is bad. we went from being hated to lots of people saying, hey, these guys got to be released. i don't regret going, and i'm just excited to see, you know, how much more things change in in our benefit. >> brandon fellows hangs out at the house. we first met him when he was exiting the capitol on jan six. >> yeah, we went in there and then i walked in and there's just a whole bunch of people lighting up in some aragon room. i don't know if it's an org or tons of organ paintings, but they were smoking a bunch of weed in there because he gave his full name. >> he says our story helped
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authorities i.d. him quickly. a screenshot from our story was in his fbi criminal complaint. >> so i got my linkedin profile. and the people you may know, also an fbi agent from dc, fbi albany. so i was like, yep, they're coming. i better get ready for a potential arrest. there is one thing that i've had since january 6th. weed that i hadn't smoked. so, you know, i stopped smoking, um, after january 6th. so this is really old weed. i had smoked it the night prior, and i haven't touched. yeah. it's vintage. yeah. >> a jury convicted him on four misdemeanor counts related to entering the capitol and one felony obstructing an official proceeding, a charge later thrown out for rioters by the supreme court. he spent almost 36 months in jail. >> i wasn't allowed to shower today. i didn't even get to leave my cell. >> and he says he snuck out video of his cell to expose conditions there. the harsh reality of jail is a big part of the jan six supporter culture. some 1500 people were prosecuted for more than 900
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nights. this group has held a vigil outside the dc jail. they got an up close look at a criminal justice system that they say is not always just the way that men are treated inside. >> the jail in this country is horrific, and i hope that the men behind jan six come out and do something about that, because it's not just jan sixers being treated horribly in prisons. >> you know, prisons should be punishment and not torture. >> i had no idea i was so naive. the people that did have a voice about it, unfortunately, were they come from underserved communities and their voices aren't as loud, or they feel like they've already been so downtrodden for so long. their voices don't mean anything because you're so do you think, as a jan six supporter, you might have more credibility with conservative lawmakers who in the past would be seen as like, less receptive to that kind of, you know, i just think there was such a maybe a lot of these guys that aren't jan six ers that are detained with them, they're like, man, don't forget about us in here. >> the left has been screaming about this forever, right?
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>> the inhumane conditions of the prisons and the jails and stuff. and unfortunately it's taken january 6th for the right to acknowledge this, but at least it's happened, right? we can start, you know, taking care of this on both sides of the aisle. everybody could come together that that human rights are important. >> do you think there will be as much interest in an issue like that once jan six is not at the center of it? like it's not as directly beneficial to president trump? >> well, we have to make it that. it's an emotional thing. i'm sorry, but i think that people, especially the 1500 people, if we if we all get together, we can take care of it. we can make it a priority for president trump to the. >> what an incredible story. and to be in that house, to just have those conversations. and in that you just broke some more news. you have learned that donald trump personally
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invited ashley babbitt's mother to attend the inauguration when she was holding up that that ticket, which now, of course, it's moved inside, you said, is more of a memento. but she told you that he had personally extended that invitation. what more can you tell us about that? >> so that wasn't the first time that she'd spoken to president trump. she said he called into her vigil before the last time she spoke to him. she asked if he had any message for the people who are still incarcerated, and he told her to tell them to keep their chins up and that he loved him. and one reason for that is that micki witthoeft is very prominent within the jan six world. she's kind of revered. everyone i spoke to just called her mickey. one person described her as a warrior who brought a lot of attention to lesser known jan six families, and. but she says that she's ready to pack up her things, go back to california and get her own life in order, and let the other people who've been incarcerated take over for the activism that was really incredible. >> and just to see that that
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house where they're living and imagine them all coming in now, waiting to see what happens tomorrow. thank you very much, ellie, for for finding that and sharing that. it's important. thank you. thanks. all right. next. biden's final hours in office. that is the moment that we are in. i'm going to speak with congressman jim clyburn, who spent the whole day with biden and just got off air force one with the president in washington. what did biden tell his long time friend? also breaking three hostages now home as the world waits to see if the ceasefire in gaza will actually hold so that the remaining hostages can be released. >> my parents worked hard for everything we had. they taught me the value of a dollar and how to use it wisely. those lessons are forever, and today i share them with all our employees. it's why i team up with vanguard for our company's 401 k plan, because
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must stay engaged, must always keep the faith in a better day to come. i'm not going anywhere on the phone with me now is the democratic congressman, james clyburn from south carolina. >> he was at president biden's side today, and he just landed back in washington, flying back there on air force one with the president. and i know congressman clyburn just left the white house. and, congressman, you know, you spent the day with with your your dear friend. you know, you've worked together in politics for a lifetime, and he has become a wonderful friend to you. what did you talk about in these final hours that you spent together? >> well, thank you very much for having me. the president and i spent the whole trip back, just the two of us for most of the time in his cabin.
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and we talked about the consequences of his policies and what would flow from them. we talked about the pieces of legislation that he successfully got enacted into law, and the intent of those pieces of legislation and the results that flowed from them. i thought it was just an incredible discussion. he has only one regret that he expressed to me, and that was the fact that he did not spend. enough time on the politics of it. he thought that what he did was the right thing to do, and they were great, but he didn't explain it to the american people often enough. uh, and the consequences of that, he he regrets that he, that he believes in his policies but regrets the politics of how he,
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i guess maybe promoted it or or fought for it. >> right. um, well, he you know, one of the things that the president and i often talk about is the, the similarities. >> uh, between how we grew up and we kind of grew up, uh, being taught, uh, not to be boastful about everything. just do it. and, um, and the world will appreciate it. well, in the world of politics these days, uh, that didn't work so well. we live in a world of soundbites, and people are worried about how many hits you get on the internet, rather than what's the substance of what it is that you're putting out. and so i said to him, uh, about six months ago, uh, long before he came out of the race, i said to him, i said, look, uh, your substance
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is as good as anybody can hope for. your style is lacking in this current environment. uh, and so, uh, his style has been, uh, the thing that he regrets more than anything else, his style is the thing he regrets. >> what? when? when, you know, tomorrow. congressman, he's going to do. he's going to hold with tradition. he's hosting the tea reception for president-elect trump and the incoming first lady, melania trump, privately. and then he's going to accompany trump to the capitol, which, of course, trump did not afford him that four years ago, right when trump went to, gave gave a goodbye speech at andrews air force base and refused to attend the inauguration. what do you think biden's message is going to be for trump tomorrow? i mean, in the conversations i've had with him over the past year, and i've been a part of two of them, his disdain for who president trump is, is, is, is not something he ever made any effort to hide, right? but he
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is he is going with the transfer of power in a gracious way tomorrow. what do you think he says to trump? did he talk about tomorrow with you? >> no, he didn't. uh, there was a total silence on that question. we didn't talk about tomorrow at all. we didn't talk about the inauguration at all. we just talked about his relationship to the people of south carolina. uh, people that he loved dearly. joe biden spends a lot of time in south carolina. or at least he did, um, and, uh, it was no surprise to me that in the primary, in spite of the fact that he had lost in new hampshire and in iowa and in nevada when it came to south carolina, he won by 29 points. that is because the people of south carolina know joe biden. they
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appreciate joe biden and the politics of it. uh, they didn't pay any attention to it. >> all right. well, congressman clyburn, i appreciate your time. you, of course, so instrumental to the fact that he is in the white house with with your decision to support him in that primary, as we all remember. and obviously, you were who he spent his last day in office with. thank you so much, sir. i appreciate your time. >> well, thank you very much for having me. >> all right. and next, three israeli hostages are freed. we'll see who will be released next. of course, nearly 100 still held hostage. 90 palestinians released in exchange for those three so far. will the fragile cease fire hold? we're live on the ground. in kobe. >> the making of a legend premieres saturday at nine on cnn. >> when winter season hits, emergency supports your immune system with so much more than vitamin c, be ready to fight back with emergency and for on
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israel's ofer prison. the prisoners were freed as part of the very fragile ceasefire hostage deal between israel and hamas. coming hours after three israeli hostages were freed after 15 months in captivity, jeremy diamond is there and he's out front. >> these celebrations are more than 15 months in the making, as a ceasefire takes hold and the first hostages are released, jabbar in gaza. a countdown to the start of the ceasefire unleashes the kind of joy that speaks to all they have endured, and the hope that this could mark the end of the war in israel. tears of joy as a wave of relief crashes over the families of three newly released hostages after 471 days of captivity. emily damari romi. gonin. and aaron steinbrecher. finally, back in
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the arms of their loved ones. love because love. al-qaim romi is back alive. her family cheers as the first images surface in israel, the entire country is celebrating their return amid crowds of people swarming their vehicles and masked hamas militants. this is the moment those hostages emerged from captivity one by one, as seen in this hamas video. they rush into a waiting red cross vehicles that will whisk them to freedom. after crossing into israel, where they are greeted by the israeli military. doron, romi and emily embraced their mothers for the first time after months of agonizing uncertainty. the sound you hear behind me is the engine of a military helicopter whirring, preparing to take off with these three newly freed hostages aboard. as the helicopters take flight, their journey to recovery is only just beginning a long road also
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lies ahead for the people of gaza. hours into the cease fire, some of the first displaced palestinians setting foot in what remains of northern gaza. this is what many are returning to. block after block, devastated by 15 months of unrelenting bombardment. the destruction speaks to a deeper tragedy here. for more than 46,000 people have been killed, according to the palestinian ministry of health in southern gaza. people also return to homes battered by war after the israeli military withdrew from rafah. >> zain asher deir al-balah. >> we came back as if to a new country, this man says in the ruins of his home we have nothing left. but amid it all, hope finally, now pierces the air. this is a moment we've been waiting for for over a year and a half, this man says, smiling broadly. conditions now expected to improve in gaza as hundreds of
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trucks loaded with clean water, food and hygiene kits begin entering gaza. up to 600 trucks of aid per day are expected to flood the strip over the next six weeks, following months of shortages. but for now, a moment to celebrate after 15 months of destruction, just standing here alive during these difficult times is indescribable. this man says, praise be to god. we are the happiest people in the world today. at long last, hope for the future. and aaron, on the first day of this cease fire, there are indeed questions about what that hope for the future looks like. will this six week ceasefire actually endure? and will israel and hamas be able to extend it? and ultimately, perhaps reach a permanent end to this war?
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