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visit us at fund.com lockerbie. >> february 16th on cnn. >> hello and welcome to our viewers joining us in the united states and all around the world, i'm erica hill. >> nice to have you with us. it is monday, january 20th, 2 a.m. here in new york. and it is now officially, of course, inauguration day, just hours from now, donald trump will be sworn in as the 47th president of the united states. this historic moment, also coinciding with mlk day here in the u.s., when the country pauses to celebrate the life and legacy of the reverend doctor martin luther king, jr.. here is what you can expect today in washington. donald trump and the incoming first lady, melania trump, will head to the white house in the morning for a tea reception with outgoing president joe biden and first lady jill biden. from there, president biden and trump will ride in the same limo to the capitol.
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biden will also follow presidential tradition, we've learned by leaving a letter for trump in the oval office. the incoming president is expected to attend three official galas later in the day. security, of course, is at a pretty exceptional high in washington. law enforcement patrolling the area around the capitol ahead of the inauguration. the swearing in ceremony, as you know, this year, will be held inside. it will be inside the capitol rotunda because of those freezing temperatures, which forced officials to make the change and move it inside. a lot of concerns about what it would feel like with the wind chill outside. donald trump, meantime starting his celebration a little early with a campaign style rally on sunday night, what he called the eve of taking back our country. trump, speaking to supporters at the capital one arena in washington, where he also laid out an aggressive plan to tackle his priorities. starting today.
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>> starting tomorrow, i will act with historic speed and strength and fix every single crisis facing our country. we have to do it. invasion of our borders will have come to a halt tomorrow. everybody in this very large arena will be very happy with my decision on the j. six hostages. i will direct our military to begin construction of the great iron dome missile defense shield. and we will get critical race theory and transgender insanity the hell out of our schools. >> a tech billionaire, elon musk, joined trump on stage at one point, telling the crowd that they hope to make significant changes to. musk was picked to co-lead the department of government efficiency agency. and as my colleague jeff zeleny explains, the rally itself ended with a trump favorite on stage. >> look, i mean, this is one of
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the moments in history that you really cannot fully sum up. why is this become donald trump's anthem? but indeed it did. and look at the next 47th president of the united states standing right in the middle of this cultural song from a different moment in time. only one member of the original village people is on stage tonight, i am told. the rest are newer members. but the crowd now will be doing ymca. >> we are going to be hearing a lot of ymca over the next 24 hours or so. joining me now our panel, cnn senior political analyst ron brownstein, republican strategist and cnn political commentator maria cardona. nice to see all of you. so as we look at where things stand, a lot of promises from the incoming president about what was going to happen on day one. it's going to be a very busy day one, as many as 100 executive orders.
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for presidents, incoming presidents on day one, when it comes to executive orders, this would certainly be a flurry and be the most to put it to put it mildly. noel, he is really coming out swinging here, doing exactly what donald trump said he would do. he wants to enact a lot of change on day one with this large number of executive orders. there's also the potential, obviously, for legal challenges. how much do you think that is also a part of the planning process for donald trump and his administration? well, well, everybody knows that donald trump is the man that gets things done. >> and i think that that's why overwhelmingly, people voted him back in to do another term. so, you know, you can always kind of look back on history and know that donald trump likes to do things quickly, and he likes to do things on a large scale. you can see where he's already had people coming to mar-a-lago even before he has, you know, taken office. he has been having
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meeting after meeting with foreign dignitaries, different people within the legislation, legislation, legislation. so he is ready and raring to go. so i look for him to get things done. i think the american people want it. republicans want it, and people that were not republicans that voted him in any way, they want it too. so i think that you're going to have a lot of things coming at you rapid speed. >> there will be a lot coming. rapid fire. that's exactly what we've been. we've been warned, ron, when we look at this in terms of the promises for day one, i think we have a list that we could put on the screen. we are talking about deportations, ending birthright citizenship, closing the southern border, pardoning some of the january 6th defendants, also imposing steep tariffs. it is fascinating to me this shift that we're seeing, um, to what feels like in this moment, an era of governing by executive order. ron. >> yeah. >> well, so many things to say about it. erica, first of all,
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your question is really on point because, you know, in trump's first term, two of his biggest legal defeats, two of the only times the supreme court said no to him was in rulings that said key things he tried to do violated the administrative procedure act. you know, a technical process by which the federal government has to make decisions. and the supreme court blocked his attempt to stop daca, the deferred, you know, for dreamers, and also stopped his attempt to, um, add a citizenship question, a citizenship question to the census, precisely on the grounds that it was done in an arbitrary and capricious manner, without going through all the steps that you have to do for federal action. so it's a real issue, as they, you know, kind of prioritize shock and awe and speed. second, you know, this first day really is, i think, emblematic of one of the challenges we have in american government over the last many years, which is that each administration, as it
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comes in, finds that it is easier to govern by executive order than to try to get things through congress. now that it's become routine to need 60 votes to do anything that can't be done through the reconciliation process. and what that means is that every time power changes hands and it's been changing hands pretty frequently, the next administration can simply come in and erase the blackboard. that is a very difficult way to run a country. for anyone trying to plan longer than a four year period. i mean, you have businesses that have invested billions of dollars, auto companies, power companies, others, for example, in the clean energy incentives that were passed under biden, that will not be going away now, be going away. and so, you know, to the extent trump is relying on executive branch authority, as presidents in both parties have been doing to increasingly advance his agenda, it also leaves it more vulnerable. it's kind of like writing in sand, you know, as the tide comes in and out, what you put down tends to wash away. >> it is fascinating that we
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are at this point, as you point out, and how much and how often power is changing hands these days. maria, when we look at this, um, as we all know, if donald trump says he's going to do something, telegraphs that typically he follows through. democrats have seen this movie before. they have the playbook. how are democrats approaching this first 100 days when they are looking at full republican control there in washington, very vigilantly, erica, and what that means is that they're going to take a look at every single executive order that comes through. >> and we do understand that he will most likely do all of the things that he says he's going to do, because he that's exactly what he does. democrats are going to be seeing which ones will hold up in court. there are a lot of legal battles ahead. i believe that many of them will not hold up in court, will be not constitutional, and he won't be able to actually get them done. but what he is doing with the
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flurry of these, erica, and this is something i think democrats need to be vigilant about as well, is that he is trying to do this by shock and awe. he's going to try to exhaust the people who want to oppose him on these. he's going to try to have these be so fast and furious that those who oppose him aren't even going to have time to blink. and so i think that they're going to have to be very careful and really go after the ones that are most hurtful, the ones that are obviously and blatantly unconstitutional and illegal, the ones that are the ones that probably won't hold up in court. and so it is going to take a lot of energy and a lot of careful but fast analysis by democrats who are concerned that a lot of these are going to actually inflict pain and division and fear and divisiveness all across america's communities. and i'm speaking mostly of the ones that have to do with mass deportation. and what we're
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also expecting, erica, is something that i don't think that trump can help himself, and maga republicans can help themselves, which is the overreach. i do think that he will overreach with a lot of these executive orders as he tries to implement them. the images in 2017, when he tried to implement family separation, when he ripped babies from the arms of their mother, the images were horrific and the backlash from americans was also fast and furious. and so i think that you're going to see a lot of that as he tries to implement these mass deportation declarations. there's going to be a lot of separations, a lot of communities in anger and in pain. and the images on national television, i think, also are going to be be afflicting a mass backlash from americans who i don't think they want that at the end of the day. so that's what democrats are going to be looking for. >> and as we as we watch all of this unfold, frankly, in the coming hours, um, noel, the
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reality also for the incoming president is that he's coming in as a lame duck president, right. this will be his second term. we know that as soon as as soon as he is sworn in, there will need to be legislative efforts as well. he does have a lot of republicans in lockstep with him. but how important will it be to not just govern by executive order, but also to work with congress, with the senate, given that congress is staring down midterm elections? >> well, the bottom line is trump wants to get things done. and we all on this panel know that he is going to get things done. he has always had the motto promises made, promises kept. so he's going to do it via the congress or he is going to do it via executive order, but he's going to get things done. and this is this is how trump works. and everybody knows, you know, you had a taste of trump four years before. and now you know exactly what to expect from trump. and you're right he
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is a lame duck. so you can expect it to go that much. double down. let's just say double down more because you know that he is not going to be running for reelection. so he is going to be doubling down rapid speed to get things done. so he is going to do it. everything that he enlisted, everything that he has said repeatedly in the speeches, especially the border. the border has been major trouble. everyone you know has been tired of the of the fentanyl coming through. we are sick and tired of criminals. we are sick and tired of seeing, you know, murders. look, i'm in manhattan. i've got a place in manhattan, and it's scary to ride the subway. everybody notices the change that's going on in america, and i think that that's why they have voted him in. so his policies are going to be enforced. and he does have people around him. all of his cabinet picks, everyone that he is picking is going to
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help enforce his policies. he wants to get these done and he doesn't want any roadblocks. so he's meeting fast and furious to get everything done with everyone lockstep behind him. >> we will continue the discussion ahead throughout the hour. stay with us for a little bit more of that. do you want to get folks caught up on some of the other news that we're following at this hour? the fragile ceasefire is now in its second day for israel and gaza. emotional scenes playing out on both sides. on sunday, the three freed hostages reunited with their family members after 471 days in captivity. large crowds meantime in the west bank greeting the first group of 90 palestinian prisoners who were released as part of the deal. meantime, in gaza, a number of palestinians are now beginning to return to what is left of their neighborhoods in hopes of rebuilding their lives. aid
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trucks also resuming deliveries in the enclave. but the world health organization is warning gaza still faces immense health challenges ahead. paula hancocks is live in abu dhabi with more on the developments from today. and of course, what comes next. paula. >> well, erica, what we've seen over the past 24 hours is really what many have been hoping for, for months. in fact, well over a year, we saw those rare moments of joy on both sides. the three israeli hostages being reunited with their family, a hugely emotional time not just for them, but also for the families of other hostages that they are still waiting to see. hopefully over coming months there should be 30 more hostages being released within six weeks. if that first phase does go ahead as planned, and then on the palestinian
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side, we saw some 90 palestinian prisoners being released and emotional reunions with their families as well. so it has definitely been a positive 24 hours given what we have seen since october 7th, 2023. now, we heard from the head of ron rowe. this is the un agency which handles palestinian refugees, and he said that it has been a good first day of the ceasefire. the fact that you could hear the sound of children playing in gaza, as opposed to the bombardments, but they are huge challenges ahead. certainly when you look at gaza itself, what we've heard from the un is that they managed to get 630 humanitarian aid trucks into gaza just yesterday, just on sunday, and 300 of those will be heading to northern gaza, which is the worst hit. it has been decimated by the israeli military in recent months, as they believed that was where
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hamas was trying to regroup. so the the push now to try and flood the gaza strip with aid has begun. but of course, there are massive challenges ahead. erica. >> yeah, there certainly are. paula, really appreciate it. thank you. well, he promised, of course, to end the war in ukraine before returning to the white house. hours ahead of donald trump's inauguration, the fighting rages on there. a look at how the second trump presidency could impact global politics and the war, specifically in ukraine. that's ahead. >> just because it's wet outside, you don't need to wear boots. presenting skechers waterproof sneakers with rugged, 100% waterproof construction in a comfy, breathable, lightweight, easy to wear sneaker. ditch the boots and experience comfy, capable skechers waterproof sneakers. >> my moderate to severe plaque psoriasis held me back. >> now with skyrizi, i'm all in with clear skin. >> things are getting clearer. yeah, i feel free to bare my
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ukraine. we also have the situation in gaza. this this cease fire and hostage deal with israel and hamas that we have seen three hostages released, as well as some palestinian prisoners going back. and this for the moment, this fragile ceasefire holding mr. trump, addressing that at his rally tonight, i want to play a little bit of what he had to say. >> perhaps most beautiful of all, this week we achieved an epic cease fire agreement as a first step toward lasting peace in the middle east. and this agreement could only have happened as a result of our historic victory in november. that was some victory. was that the greatest? >> a lot has been made of the fact that this was essentially the same deal that had been on the table since may, but that things did change a little bit once donald trump got into office, including in terms of some of the pressure that he directed at both parties. how
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much of an influence is it, your sense he did have on this moment? >> well, i think he had tremendous influence. >> it was a bit with like the iran hostage crisis that the iranians wanted to wait until jimmy carter was gone to give the gift to ronald reagan. the same thing happened here, but it was also very important that donald trump, who was considered very, very pro-israel and who bibi netanyahu has basically supported, said to the israeli prime minister, enough of this. end it. and i think that was very, very powerful. that was needed and necessary. he didn't even need to threaten. it was more like, do you want a good relationship in the future? let's end this now. but of course, the war isn't ended. let's be very clear. we have a 42 day cease fire that could break down the deal, which is phased, which is always a dangerous thing to get to the next phase, which would
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really end the war, is going to be very, very difficult, require enormous concessions on both sides, particularly from israel, and will require a lot more pressure from president trump. now, whether he wants to invest as much time to pressure the israelis to do something really, really difficult now, with everything else going on, as you said, with ukraine, with putin, with his own domestic agenda, that's the open question to me. >> it is an open question, but it is remarkable to your point, um, how much pressure he was able to exert over prime minister netanyahu just in that short period of time. so the fact that he was able to do that, um, what does that say about trump's broader influence in the region and actually how the region is maybe bracing for this second trump presidency? >> well, we're all bracing. i
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mean, a friend of mine said, trump coming into it's like an asteroid hitting the earth and and and which dinosaurs will die is actually the big question. so trump tends to move from topic to topic, and he relies on other people to push them forward. i do think he he has in mind the bigger, broader regional deal that he sort of started in his first term with the abraham accords. he would like to see normalization between the saudis and the israelis in return for security guarantees for saudi arabia, which makes some in america nervous. but that would require real pressure on israel, because mr. netanyahu has made it very clear and certainly his far right allies have made it very clear they have no interest in a palestinian state. they don't believe in it. they think it's dangerous. but the saudis have made it very clear
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that to move ahead, particularly after all the death and destruction in gaza, where hamas is still there, by the way, they will want serious, concrete steps toward an independent palestinian state now that will present mr. netanyahu a big choice of his own. does he reject that and go on his own and deal with the trump people who think maybe they should annex the west bank? or does he go with trump for the legacy and work for a regional deal and do some steps toward an independent palestinian state? that would mean calling new elections and running on a very different kind of program. so these choices are really, really hard, and they're coming. >> yeah, they absolutely are. and also decisions on ukraine coming as well as we know that donald trump. nic robertson meeting about
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ukraine, we will have to tackle that top topic the next time we speak. stephen. appreciate it. thank you. thank you. just ahead, more on the inauguration of donald trump and the start to his second term, which he says will include a flurry of executive orders on day one. we'll take a closer look. >> at this part. changed my life. >> superman is now nominated for a bafta award for best
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>> kobe the making of a legend premieres saturday at nine on cnn welcome back to our special coverage of inauguration day in the united states. >> in just a matter of hours, donald trump will be sworn in as the 47th president inside the capitol rotunda. aside from the traditional pomp and circumstance, what we are also expecting here in a matter of hours is that donald trump will get straight to work, telling supporters on sunday he plans more than 100 executive orders and actions on day one. >> oh, you're going to have a lot of fun watching television tomorrow. somebody said yesterday. sir, don't sign so many in one day. let's do it over a period of weeks. i said, like hell, we're going to do it over weeks. we're going to sign them at the beginning.
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>> among the promises he's made for day one, launching mass deportations, pardoning january 6th defendants, also tightening border security and imposing steep tariffs. my panel is back to discuss. cnn senior political analyst ron brownstein, republican strategist nick moore and cnn political commentator maria cardona. nice to see you all back with us. let's pick up if we could, in terms of those pardons for january 6th. this is something we heard a lot about. of course, on the campaign trail. i just want to put in perspective some of the numbers that we're potentially talking about here. i think we can put this on the screen about 1600 people ultimately were charged, 1200 of them, about 80% were sentenced. we're talking about 600 who were that were violent crimes. overall, what's remarkable to me is that this is not popular with the american people. if we look at polling from as recently as the beginning of january, 62% of americans say they do not support pardons for january 6th attackers. noel, i know this was a campaign promise. i
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know that this is important to a number of members of the base, but as a strategist, how would you recommend to the incoming president that he thread that needle? >> well, i think that this is something that shouldn't be his his focus. i wouldn't as a strategist, i would focus on the things that really voted him into office. and those are very simple things. those are the border. the economy, inflation and basically global affairs. making sure that, you know, we are we are okay globally because a lot of people are feeling the, the, the unrest of what's going on in the world. january 6th there are there are a lot of mixed reviews on that. you know, there's a lot of the base not too happy with it. but as far as like the focus, i don't know if that should be the focus, nor do i think it
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really is going to be the focus. i think we have many other things to do. i, i do, however, think that it's not going to tarnish trump. i think that people are still going to be supportive of trump. i think they're going to be behind him 110% because they want to get things done. and if trump feels that he needs to do this with january 6th, i don't think it's going to make a difference as far as people focusing, um, on on the bigger picture. >> maria. democrats have consistently, when approaching january 6th, also tied that to donald trump to say he is a threat to democracy. that is a message that did not resonate in the way that democrats were hoping in the last election. um, but now we see where things are. donald trump has been being painted as the enemy of the people, but he did win decisively. not a landslide, but it was a decisive win. how do democrats handle this
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moment? >> well, i think that they do it by pointing out exactly what you just showed erica, which is that the vast majority of the american people don't believe that the january 6th rioters and conspiracy theorists and insurrectionists, um, should be pardoned because they saw the same images that we did four years ago when donald trump inspired the violent mob, and when he tried to overturn a fair and free election and violate the constitution and keep power, um, violently, essentially. and and so democrats are going to continue to remind the american people of that. and, and like, while you said it wasn't, you know, a hugely resonant part of the election, let's remember that this election, as you also said, was not a landslide. and in fact, the people who were not his maga base, who voted
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for trump, voted for him, hoping and believing that he would bring down the cost of their groceries, their gas and their rent, as he promised he would do. and he has talked about almost everything other than that since the moment that he became elected. he's talked about trying to buy greenland. he talked about trying to take back, even by force if needed, the panama canal. um, he has clearly been talking about mass deportation, which is something that the vast majority of the american people don't believe should happen, especially if you're going to see parents and babies being separated violently. and the undocumented immigrants that have been here for years and years, especially the dreamers being deported to countries that they don't know. uh, and so, again, i think that donald trump is going to be massively overreaching in these next couple of days if he's not
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careful. and it was not a landslide, it was not a mandate, and he should work with democrats to try to figure out where he can bring the country together and focus on the things that everyone wants him to do, like bringing down prices. but he hasn't done that. >> ron, in terms of let's pick up on bringing down prices that is big for so many people. they want to see. they want to see. i mean, i have two teenage boys, so i know how expensive eggs and milk are. i will i will put that out there. yeah. there are people who have high expectations that when they go to the grocery store next week, the prices are going to come down. he doesn't actually have a lot of control over that. so how does he address those very real kitchen table economic issues in the early days? >> you know, i think i think the equation in office, eric, is going to be very similar to what we saw in the campaign. i mean, what we saw in the campaign was that trump was put over the top by people who still have a lot of doubts about his agenda and his character. and if you look at the exit poll, if you look at the vote cast, i mean, 15 to 20% of people who voted for
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trump said they don't think he has the character to be president. they think that he will lead the country in an authoritarian direction. they oppose, as maria said, mass deportation. they opposed, um, restrictions on abortion, but they voted for him because they prioritized other issues more, particularly inflation and their cost of living. and i think the equation is going to be the same in office. i mean, if if trump can get people's cost of living under control, they're going to look past a lot of other things. they may not, you know, be too enthusiastic about regarding him. but if he doesn't, i think all of those other things come back to the surface. and, you know, the verdict among economists again, by the way, the wall street journal, out sunday night with their latest survey of economists saying that they they now expect inflation to be higher next year than it would have been otherwise because of trump's tariffs and mass deportation in in particular. so, i mean, the challenge trump has is that he was hired to do one job above
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all, which was to get people's cost of living under control. by and large, i think the broad verdict among economists, including, you know, a lot of conservative economists, is that an agenda of tariffs and mass deportation is more likely to inflame than contain, uh, inflation. and so he will now be on the hook for results. i mean, i don't know if people are expecting it, you know, necessarily tomorrow, but if people in a year, 18 months do not feel like their cost of living is more under control, that is going to be a problem for republicans heading into 2026. >> ron noel, maria, appreciate it. thank you all. well, just hours from now, as we have been discussing, of course, the u.s. will have a new president. so among the other moves that donald trump has said will be among the first on day one, saving tiktok how he plans to do that as our coverage of donald trump's inauguration continues. >> we have i got news for you
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>> as of today. tiktok is back we went on tiktok and republicans have never won the young vote. the youth vote. they win a lot of votes, but they never won the youth vote. we won the youth vote by 36 points. so i like tiktok. >> i like it. i like it. >> i had a slightly good experience. wouldn't you say? >> donald trump is hailing the quick return of tiktok hours ahead of his second inauguration ceremony. among those expected to attend the ceremony is the app ceo. tiktok is already back online after the company took it offline late saturday, before a ban was scheduled to go into effect. the app credits trump for its whiplash rebound and had also said that it was confident it would be trump who would save
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it. when announcing that the app was taken offline, american tiktok users, of course, now have their access back. so what does this all mean, and how long will that access last? joining me now from washington is kyle yuryev. she's a reporter for the information. kyle, it's good to have you with us. i mean, i was fascinated, so we were actually live on the air last night talking about tiktok as all of this was unfolding. and all of a sudden i looked and the message was far different that the app was no longer available. but there was a very direct, not at all veiled, i would say play to president trump in that moment that clearly. worked. but the reality of how that plays out could be a little different. >> definitely. i mean, we've we've had so much whiplash over the past 24 hours, and i would expect more whiplash in the next 24 hours. and the 24 hours after that. there's no slam dunk of what happens next. i mean, trump has said that he is going to issue an executive order, but the question is whether apple and google and service providers will feel
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that that's enough assurance. we reported that oracle started turning tiktok servers back up this morning, but apple and google have not reinstated tiktok to their apple to their app stores yet. >> it's also it's also fascinating because as we look at everything that's at play, if we sort of go go in the wayback machine and remember how this all started, right? donald trump was one of the one of the people initially, years ago who said, hey, i think this is a major national security risk we have. now, to your point, there's a lot of whiplash. a creator told me last night we were talking about the law, which had bipartisan support. he said, you know what else i noticed? there was bipartisan support in using tiktok to campaign, which really seemed to lead to a lot of the change here that we've seen. but bytedance has been clear they're still not selling the algorithm. that's the secret sauce. so how is any of this going to work that in complying with the law that was passed, which the supreme court upheld, this ban, is there a way to make the two things work
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to keep tiktok? >> that is the big question. and trump has sort of been positioning and same thing with tiktok. but there's no guarantee that they can find a deal because this is still a law. trump can put out whatever executive order he wants, but he can't overturn the law. so it is a question of what can happen. he sort of floated this idea of a of a 5050 joint venture with the u.s., but there are so many questions about what company would be involved. and your point, would china sign off on it? it has export laws for technology, which includes tiktok's algorithm. so beijing would have to sign off on any sale. and throughout this process, bytedance has maintained that it does not want to sell. so it is a big question of what kind of deal they can work out to actually keep tiktok in the u.s. long term. >> has there been an impact outside the u.s.? on tiktok? >> um, i mean, it's really focused on the u.s., right? but the question is, how do you how do you separate it, though? because so many people in other countries watch u.s. creators.
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so they're definitely, you know, in the 12 hours that tiktok was down, you know, users around the world could not, you know, interact with american creators who, you know, are very, very popular on the app. so and it is a question, too, if you were to sell tiktok in the u.s., what does that mean for tiktok's operations in the rest of the world? it's such a complicated issue. there's no easy solution here, and that's why we're here, you know, down to pass the deadline, right? they weren't able to find a solution before this deadline went into effect. >> yeah, it'll it'll be interesting to see what the next 90 days brings. i really appreciate it. thank you. well, among the other action items for day one for donald trump, immigration. the preparations now underway to enact his proposals, including mass deportations. that's ahead. >> work, play blink. >> relief. work. >> play. blink.
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will outline in my inaugural address tomorrow will be the most aggressive, sweeping effort to restore our borders. >> president elect donald trump and his aides are preparing to clamp down on immigration, as you just heard there. as soon as he is sworn into office, in a matter of hours, those plans include declaring a national emergency at the border, as well as raids targeting undocumented migrants across the country and negotiations for the return of the remain in mexico program, which would require people to stay outside the u.s. while undergoing their immigration proceedings. maria ramirez uribe, pardon me, is an immigration reporter at politifact and joins me from washington. it's good to have you with us. so when we look at what is expected to happen tomorrow, what we have been told will happen, we're told this is a lot of shock and awe. there's going to be a show of force. a number of cities around the country have been preparing for that. i've seen discussion of it on the local news here in the new york area. what is your sense of what and where this will actually look
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like? what will transpire? >> yeah. >> so we know that trump has said, you know, this, this mass deportation plan of his it starts on day one, but he hasn't really provided a whole lot of details as to what exactly that means. so like you mentioned, we know there's a few cities that could begin to see these sort of immigration, large immigration raids taking place. chicago was one that was named early on. tom homan, trump's border czar, said that, you know, they're reconsidering beginning this in chicago after that leak happened because of potential safety concerns for ice officers. but he also said that it's not going to, you know, be limited to one city. so like you said, i've also been seen in reports philadelphia, dc, denver, all these sort of democrat led cities as places where these sort of large immigration raids will begin to take place, potentially as soon as tomorrow morning. and so we don't know exactly what that will look like, if it will be sort of limited to 1 to 2
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people here and there in these sort of ice deportation operations, or if it will be larger scale, um, sort of a bigger show in terms of a bigger show. >> it's a two fold show, right? it's a it's a show of force. and following through, i suppose, on a campaign promise. um, but there's also an element of, oh, if we do this, then it will serve as a deterrent in some respects for people trying to come into the country. um, is there any sense that that is accurate? >> i mean, look, i think that's the sort of deterrent, uh, conversation around immigration enforcement has been going on for decades, and it doesn't necessarily always work. so, for example, during trump's first administration, we saw large immigration drop when he first went into office as people sort of feared what this new harsh on immigration sort of reality would look like. and then immigration started to go up again as people kind of either
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got comfortable or kind of understood the way that the immigration laws and the resources were constraining, uh, that sort of deterrent effort. and then again, immigration dropped again during the covid 19 pandemic and then started rising again as trump was leaving office. so it really is sort of a clear cut. deterrence works all the time, but certainly tom homan and and donald trump are hoping that these sort of large immigration raids will lead people to kind of reconsider whether or not they come across the border to call immigration a complicated issue would be a gross understatement. >> this is one of the reasons that it has not been solved. as we know in congress. it's also sometimes beneficial if you're not the party in power, to keep kicking the can down the road, because then you can run on it. when we look at the team that donald trump has assembled and what he understands in terms of the process and how government works now coming into a second term, what does that change when it comes to tackling immigration in a second trump
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term? >> i mean, i think we'll continue to see a lot of what we saw during trump's first term and even during biden's term, which is a lot of executive orders to sort of, uh, lead immigration changes. you know, congress has not been able to pass any immigration reform in decades. and so, uh, i don't necessarily see that changing immediately. um, and then we'll see is one of the big pieces, especially for this mass deportation plan, is resources. and so there needs to be a shift in appropriations in order for trump to carry out any large scale, the sort of mass deportation plan he's promised. and potentially we might see congress. um, actually, you know, fund some of those resources that are needed. and if not, trump has promised to declare a national emergency for immigration. and we know he did that during his first term to divert some military funding to the border. so we might also see some of that, i think i think we're going to see a trump who knows kind of how to play the immigration game better than than his first time around.
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>> yeah, absolutely. maria ramirez uribe, great to have you here. thank you. thank you. and thanks to all of you for joining me this hour. i'm erica hill in new york. i'll see you right back here at the top of the hour after a quick break. stay with us. >> kobe was global. people felt his presence. >> kobe. the making of a legend premieres saturday at nine on cnn so, what are you thinking? >> i'm thinking about our honeymoon. what about africa? safari. hot air balloon ride. swim with elephants. wait. can we afford a safari? great question. like everything takes a little planning. or put the money towards a down payment on a ranch in montana with horses.
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the white house. he'll be sworn in as the 47th president inside the capitol rotunda, freezing temperatures, forcing the ceremony indoors this time around. we've also learned that outgoing president joe biden and trump will ride together from the white house in the same limo to the capitol. biden will also follow presidential tradition, we've learned by leaving a letter for trump in the oval office, the president elect, for his part, getting his celebrations started a bit early with a campaign style rally on sunday on what he called the eve of taking back our country. >> we won. what a good feeling. we like winning, don't we? i'm thrilled to be back with so many friends, supporters and true american patriots on the eve of taking back our country. that's what we're going to do. take back our country trump spoke to supporters at the capital one arena in
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washington. >> he also laid out an aggressive plan sunday night to tackle his top priorities, including immigration reform. sources tell cnn trump intends to issue more than 100 executive orders and actions on his first day in office. >> oh, you're going to have a lot of fun watching television tomorrow somebody said yesterday, sir, don't sign so many in one day. let's do it over a period of weeks. i said, like hell, we're going to do it over weeks. we're going to sign them at the beginning. >> trump also told the crowd the cease fire deal between israel and hamas happened only because he won reelection. he also took a victory lap for getting tiktok back online after promising to issue an executive order to delay the app's ban in the u.s., who in this audience goes with tiktok? >> many, yeah, very popular.
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and frankly, we have no choice. we have to save it. >> later on sunday, trump again pledged to deliver those executive orders and actions, this time at a glitzy candlelight dinner in washington. trump made the remarks in front of guests, including amazon billionaire jeff bezos, as well as tesla and spacex ceo elon musk. musk, of course, has grown very close to trump, spending a lot of time there and will help to lead trump's new department of government efficiency agency. joining me to discuss. cnn senior political analyst ron brownstein, republican strategist noel nikpour, and cnn political commentator maria cardona. it is going to be a very busy day in washington, kicking things off, of course, with the inauguration. but then, as donald trump has promised, there will be a flurry of activity. um, ron, let's start, though, if we could, on sort of the the little bit of pomp and circumstance that we that we will see. right. we'll see the inauguration leading up to that. the bidens are hosting
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the trumps for tea and coffee closed to the press, but oh, to be a fly on the wall. and then the fact that the two will be they will be riding in the same vehicle to the capitol. um, this is an effort, i suppose, to continue some of the norms. i wonder, ron, is it still necessary? what does it mean to do this? >> yeah. look, i think there are a lot of, you know, there are no shortage of democrats who are frustrated that biden has normalized the transition in the way and in some respects, view this as the extension of the entire four years. i mean, the desire to kind of the belief in the biden administration that reestablishing all of these kind of norms that trump shredded as president, including, you know, his actions on the final days of 2021, the reestablishing those norms would somehow win them, you know, support among voters. and that's how you got merrick garland in a very kind of tentative justice
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department that i think maria can talk to. too many democrats still believe that the key reason donald trump is returning to the white house is because merrick garland waited so long. really, only when his hand was forced by the january 6th committee to look at, you know, investigating trump's actions after the 2020 election. speaking of the pomp and circumstance, i just want to note that historical trivia point i was actually at inside the rotunda when the reagan inaugural was moved inside in 1985 through a strange sequence of events. i was a pool reporter for the for the white house. that was very improvizational last minute. i don't think they announced it until the day before. it will be interesting to see how they handle this, because, you know, that was you go from you go from a podium where a lot of people are expecting to be there next to the president, to the rotunda, where you're talking about a few hundred people. i remember, as i recall pretty clearly, there was a senator sitting next to me on the edge of the press riser, you know, on the wood under all of the cameras. so in terms of
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pomp and circumstance, it will be easy to see how trump handles it. also, the speech, you know, it's a different kind of speech when you're in a room that small than when you're kind of speaking to the masses out on the mall. so it's it's a different beast. and it will be interesting to see how it plays out. >> yeah, it's a great point. just in terms of that small room and small number of people versus when you're out there having been at a couple of inaugurations but never went inside myself. so i love having that that perspective from you, ron. um, the speech, we're told will be about unity. noel will be about bringing the country together, and then the work sets in. donald trump has talked about the number of executive orders and actions that will be there, and there's been a lot of focus on these mass deportations. look, we know that overwhelmingly, the american people in polling do support deporting people who have come here illegally. that being said, there's a big difference between people who have come here illegally and people who are here illegally and have committed crimes in terms of these
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mass deportations, is there any sense or any concern, i should say that it could backfire, depending on how those go down. >> i think that tom homan knows that all eyes are going to be on him. he is extremely, uh, aware of the situation. um, he's a strong patriot, and i think that, you know, he has said numerous times he is going to be focused on the criminals that are here. i mean, that is the number one top priority. republicans are not looking to just drag people that are here and families and, and separate the children and that they are focused on getting the bad actors here, the the people that are in the gangs. we've had a lot of gang violence here. we've had a lot of people coming from all kinds of countries that are doing
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criminal activities with drug and murders and all kinds of things. tom homan is focusing on the bad people, the bad immigrants that are here that are criminals. and they have stated over and over again that that is their number one focus. and you've got stephen miller, you've got kristi noem, you know, kristi noem these people have children, they have families. they're not going in with the intentions of trying to break up families and separate children. they are focused, number one, on getting these criminals out of our country. so that's the first thing. and tom homan knows it. all eyes are on him and how he handles this is extremely important. that's why he has stated over and over again that his focus is on getting the illegal criminals out of here. >> maria, what are you anticipating? >> i actually anticipate we're
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going to see a lot of pain, a lot of cruelty in communities across the country because both stephen miller and tom homan have said that they want to go beyond the criminal, undocumented immigrants. they want to get rid of all undocumented immigrants. and even when they say, quote unquote, criminal, that is a very large, um, topic or a very large category. and let's be very clear, getting rid of criminal undocumented immigrants has always been the priority of every administration, republican and democrat. that has never been a policy that has not been in place. republicans and donald trump talk like it's something that the biden administration never did, or the obama administration never did, when in fact they deported, to the chagrin of many democratic activists. and ron knows this well. um, more undocumented
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immigrants and more criminal undocumented immigrants than any republican predecessor had before them. and so the focus for what donald trump wants to do, per stephen miller, is to get rid of every undocumented immigrant that is here. and in fact, stephen miller wants to go beyond that. if you look at the list of what donald trump has said he wants to do on immigration, it includes getting rid of birthright citizenship. it does include going beyond the criminal elements among the undocumented population. and so by definition, that is going to mean separating families. there are millions of families in this country that are mixed status families that are made up of u.s. citizens, residents and people without documents. those families are going to suffer. and so this is where i think you're going to see a big backlash among the american people, because, yes, in general, if you ask them in a
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vacuum, they do support deporting undocumented immigrants, but where it becomes a problem is when they start understanding what that actually means for the communities that they live in. it means deporting the teachers, the people who run the markets on the weekend, the people who work in construction, the people who take care of their children, the people who work in the hotels that they go and spend their vacations in. and so that is where i think that donald trump is going to run into this problem. from the words that he speaks to, the reality of what this is going to mean and the images that are going to be on television. and i think it's going to create a massive backlash for the trump administration, very similar to to what happened in 2017 and 2018 when they started ripping babies from the arms of their mothers. and so they need to be really careful about
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that. >> i do want to quickly play one other moment from from earlier sunday or from sunday evening, i should say, at this celebration that that donald trump held. he talked specifically about die, which has become a four letter word, it seems. take a listen. >> we're going to stop the destructive and divisive diversity, equity and inclusion mandates all across the government and private sector and return our country to the merit system. >> ron, it can be a great buzzword, sort of like woke that has lost its meaning. um, how important is that? >> well, you know, it's interesting. i mean, certainly from the beginning going back to 2016, one of the binding points of agreement in the trump coalition has been the belief that discrimination against whites is now as big a problem as discrimination against minorities. two thirds or more of trump voters have
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historically said that there are a lot of. not to the point i made in the last hour. there are a lot of nonwhite voters who probably don't agree with that, but who voted for trump anyway because they consider inflation and to some extent, the chaos at the border. a bigger concern. but, you know, this is really you know, this is whatever the politics of this at any given moment. here's the reality. a majority of high school graduates have been kids of color since around 2018. we're very soon getting to the point where a majority of entering college, first year students will be kids of color. majority of all college students will be kids of color, and it is very difficult to run a society that is increasingly diverse at the base and in the mass and have, you know, a kind of a world in which most of the most of the positions at the top and the public and private sector are still held by whites? i mean, that is just a formula for social tension stretching out for decades. so, you know, there is a clear backlash against the i that trump and
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republicans are benefiting from. but in the long run, as a society, we have to figure out a way to kind of diversify the room at the top, because that is what our society is becoming. it is becoming a more diverse place, and it won't work very well if you basically are, you know, telling the majority of high school, the majority of kids, the majority of kids under 18 are kids of color, that there are very few pathways for them to the top. >> rohan. rohan, i just renamed iran. ron. noel. maria. thank you. stick with us. we've got more to discuss later in the hour. also ahead here, in addition to the dozens of executive orders and actions that donald trump has outlined, he and his team have drafted a list of day one pardons for convicted january 6th rioters. we're going to take a closer look at that. also ahead, i'll speak with an expert on what the trump presidency could mean for the israel-hamas ceasefire. that's ahead.
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credit for the gaza cease fire hostage deal, saying it happened as a result of his, quote, historic election victory. >> meantime, as it is unfolding, so many emotional scenes coming out of the region today from both israel and the west bank as well as gaza. the three freed hostages, israeli hostages, as you see here, being reunited with their family members after spending 471 days in captivity. large crowds in the west bank greeting the first group of 90 palestinian prisoners to be released as part of the deal. while in gaza, palestinians are beginning to return to their bombed out neighborhoods. and what's left of them, frankly, in hopes of rebuilding their lives as aid trucks also resume deliveries in the enclave. paula hancocks is following all the latest developments for us from abu dhabi at this hour. so, paula, bring us up to speed on where things stand. >> well, erica, over the last 24 hours, we have seen some true scenes of joy, something
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that has been sadly lacking for well over a year in this region now. there were emotional reunions and images that that the families of hostages had been dreaming of for all that time, and also for more than 2 million people in gaza had been dreaming of the guns falling silent. so we have seen some very positive images. but of course, the challenges ahead remain incredibly high. now, we did hear from the the head of andrew serwer. he's the head of the the un agency in gaza, which looks after palestinian refugees. and he said it is a good first day of the ceasefire, hearing children play as opposed to hearing ordnance in the sky. now, we did also hear from the red cross. they were very much involved in gaza when it came to helping the the hostages. and they said that it
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was a very complex operation to facilitate the release of those three female hostages, saying it required vigorous security measures. we did see a number of hamas militants and great crowds surrounding those jeeps as they were released. so we are getting more details about exactly how it did happen. now, we also saw when the 90 palestinian prisoners were released from israeli prisoners, there was celebration, there was jubilation surrounding that release. we saw the busses carrying those prisoners being followed by huge crowds. now these were scenes of celebration that israel had said that they did not want to see, but it was simply impossible to prevent. erica. >> paula hancocks in abu dhabi, thank you. let's take you now to bahrain, where i'm joined by hassan al hassan, a senior fellow for middle east policy at the international institute for strategic studies. good to have you with us at this hour, as we look at where things
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stand two days in to this ceasefire. there are questions about next steps. but overall, how are you feeling about these first two days? >> well, i think it's very difficult not to feel a very significant degree of relief and elation that the ceasefire deal has finally materialized, that the suffering of innocent civilians is finally coming to an end. let's remember that the toll of this war has been extremely significant, unprecedented in many ways. over 46,000 palestinians killed, many hundreds of thousands displaced, maimed, injured. and i think the most tragic aspect of this war has been the fact that it's been children who have been disproportionately targeted and affected by the conflict. so i think the there is an overwhelming sense of relief. but there's at the same time, i think, a realization that as a matter of fact, the ceasefire could have happened quite some time ago. the framework of the
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current ceasefire has been in place since may, and israeli military leadership, whether former defense minister galant or chief of defense staff halevi, have been saying for months that israel has achieved its military objectives in gaza. and so, in fact, it was obvious that the missing ingredient was decisive and serious. credible. us weighing in on and using its leverage to push hamas, but especially israel, to accept a ceasefire agreement. and it's, i think, highly tragic that we that the biden administration failed to do exactly that. >> do you think that that leverage will continue to be used by the trump administration to prevent a return to war? >> that's the hope. but there is a significant risk, actually, that this ends up being a one phase deal. the idea at the moment is that this is the initial phase of the deal, with an initial exchange of captives and prisoners and hostages, and then what should
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begin is a good faith negotiation for a second phase and eventually a permanent ceasefire. now it's clear that there are many, especially among netanyahu's right wing coalition partners. perhaps netanyahu himself, who actually want a permanent conflict, a permanent war, as opposed to a permanent ceasefire. there have been there's been talk that there have been guarantees that israel would return to resume hostilities once the initial exchange of hostages and prisoners, um, is is completed. we've already heard netanyahu roll back on one of the commitments in the ceasefire agreement as it stands to withdraw israeli troops from the philadelphi corridor. and he's already said that there will be no such withdrawal in the in the current phase. and so i think the real risk is that this ends up being a one phase deal where we see a release of prisoners, detainees and captives on both sides. but then the hostilities resume and continue. and for
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that not to happen, we will have to see the trump administration continue to use its leverage to ensure a good faith progress towards a permanent ceasefire. >> there's also, you know, we look at these pictures of, uh, of palestinians returning home. i mean, home is is tough because in many cases there is nothing left of of what was their home. the talk of what could come next, even just the rebuilding, is a massive undertaking. the fact that aid is now getting in, um, this is this is going to last for some time, whether it resumes or not. where should they start in this moment to rebuild? >> well, i think the immediate priority is obviously for the guns to fall silent. and once that happens in a sustainable manner, humanitarian. urgent basic humanitarian aid and assistance can come in. and so that's cleaning clean water, food, basic medicines and of
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course, the task of clearing the rubble, let alone reconstruction, is going to be absolutely momentous. i think north of 70% of all infrastructure, of all buildings, of all structures in gaza have been destroyed. most homes have been destroyed, most schools and hospitals have been destroyed. and so the effort to clear the rubble, to begin to build some of the basic infrastructure is going to take years. it's going to take a significant commitment by regional arab donors, by western donors as well. but i think none of that can happen if we don't have a sustainable, a permanent, lasting ceasefire. because if the hostilities were to resume, if there was a significant chance of that happening, then you might see a significant degree of reluctance by donors to reinvest money in building the infrastructure and structures that will simply get destroyed by the next cycle of violence. >> doctor hassan al-hassan, appreciate your time. thank
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>> the inauguration of donald trump tomorrow at eight on cnn welcome back to our viewers here in the u.s. >> and around the world. half past the hour. i'm erica hill, joining you from new york. >> tomorrow, everybody in this very large arena will be very happy with my decision on the j. six hostages. very happy. i think you'll be very, very happy. >> president-elect donald trump at a victory rally in washington on sunday, highlighting just one of his many day one priorities after he is sworn into office a few hours from now. the ambitious agenda includes about 100 executive orders and actions in just the first 24 hours of his second term. they range from tightening border security to tackling issues with u.s. energy production. trump's
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swearing in is expected around midday. it takes place inside the capitol rotunda. the ceremony, of course, has been moved indoors due to the bitter cold weather that is in the forecast for today. in that moment that you just heard from the rally on sunday night, you heard donald trump reference the j. six hostages. that is how he refers to the convicted. january 6th rioters, according to two sources familiar with trump's plans, the president elect and his team have drafted a slate of pardons for some of the people associated with storming the capitol four years ago. the full extent of those initial pardons is still unclear, but he has long vowed to deliver on a campaign promise, telling time magazine in december, quote, i'll be looking at j six early on, maybe the first nine minutes. welcome back to our panel. cnn senior political analyst ron brownstein, republican strategist and cnn political commentator maria cardona. good to have all of you with us. i just want to put up i hope we can put up these numbers that we have when we look overall at the number of people who were charged, convicted and
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sentenced. it is large, some 1600, about 80% are ultimately resulting in guilty pleas or trial convictions. at least 600 of these of the 1600 people charged, were charged with serious felony offenses, and there is not a lot of appetite for overturning for pardoning those people, as we have in recent polling, which i think we can put up as well, showing those numbers. look at that. just 35% would approve of pardoning them. noel, you noted last hour that this is not something you would advise needs to be a top priority for donald trump on day one. is this simply a way of getting it out of the way? >> well, you know, there's there's something i was thinking about. and if you're going to release a lot of actions, if you're going to have a rapid fire, so to speak, like we were talking about of different executive orders and different things going on, the, you know, january 6th might kind of get lost in the shuffle
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because, you know, you're in the media, you cover the news. if you've got all kinds of things coming at you at once, you're probably not going to, you know, pick this one issue to focus on. so maybe maybe that's part of the strategy is to release these things, he said. within the first nine minutes. maybe you've got a lot of orders, you've got a lot of things coming down the pipe. they're going to be moving fast. you've talked about, you know, we talked about in the first half of the hour, talking about immigration and what's going to go on there. there are so many things to focus on. if you're in the media, maybe the strategy is roll them all out there because you're not going to be able to really focus on one thing for for too long. so maybe this is what they're going to do. >> ron, to noelle's point, does it help to sort of muddy the waters with throwing so much out there on day one that it is tough to pick up all the threads? >> now, steve bannon, remember in the first term, talked about flooding the zone with, you know, um, look,
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i think this is actually a kind of reflective of a of a larger question. there's no doubt that donald trump comes back into the presidency with a bigger potential audience than he had the first time. i mean, the pretty broad sense among a lot of groups and a lot of places that the biden presidency, rightly or wrongly, the sense that they did not deliver the results they expected has given trump a bigger audience, more people who are open to him than when he first got there. and in many ways, it is similar to the opportunity that the sense that jimmy carter failed, created for ronald reagan. but that is the word to underline opportunity. i mean, because you have more voters who are open to you, doesn't mean that you can ultimately speak to them and hold them. ronald reagan did. i mean, he built a very broad coalition that ultimately got him to 59% of the vote and 49 states in 1984. and the question for trump is whether, you know, someone who has been a base politician, a
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very divisive politician really has the bandwidth to try to craft an agenda that does reach beyond and hold people beyond his core supporters. and, you know, starting off your presidency, allowing democrats to say in two years and four years that the first thing he did when he got behind the desk was, pardon the people who, you know, rioted in the capitol and attacked police officers is not really the kind of instinct that that would, you know, reflect meeting the moment, meeting the opportunity that the sense of disenchantment with biden has opened for him. >> i was struck by something else that was brought up on sunday night at that rally, talking specifically about investigations into assassinations. um, and this is what the promise was from president elect trump. take a listen. >> as the first step toward restoring transparency and accountability to government, we will also reverse the overclassification of
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government documents. and in the coming days, we are going to make public remaining records relating to the assassinations of president john f kennedy, his brother robert kennedy, as well as doctor martin luther king jr. and other topics of great public interest. it's all going to be released. uncle sam. >> so i will note in his first term, donald trump actually agreed not to release the full tranche of of jfk documents at the request of national security agencies, which is typically how it goes, even when things have been declassified before. you've got cia and cia, pentagon saying a number of them saying, hey, you have to be careful here, right? because this could expose the identities of confidential sources while they're still alive, may still be alive. um, maria, how much of a of a priority do you think this is? >> uh, i don't think it's a priority for donald trump to protect
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national security. if it's about something that he really wants to do that he'll get in his mind a lot of credit for and be hugely popular for, which could be something that could come out of this. but i think this goes to the bigger issue about the danger of donald trump in a second term, where he is a lame duck president, where he doesn't have to worry about getting reelected, where he doesn't even have to worry about keeping either. the expansion of voters that he was able to achieve in this election, or even his base because he's lame duck, he's got four years essentially, to do whatever the hell he wants. and we have already seen the kinds of things that he wants to do. and we've already also seen that he is not just going back on his campaign promise to deal with people's groceries, gas and rent and and
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the lowering of those prices, which is what he said he would do. and frankly, the reason why he got people beyond his maga supporters to vote for him, um, he's already admitted that he can't really do that, but that he's focused on other things that will bring him either popularity, grandiosity, get other people to bend the knee and genuflect at the altar of donald trump like the oligarchy has done, like the, you know, world's billionaires are doing like leaders from across the world, authoritarian leaders who want to be in good with him have done. um, and so things like acquiring greenland and going after the panama canal, even by force if needed. those are not things that are going to bring down the cost of americans groceries, gas and rent. and so to ron's point, i think this is exactly right. this is a big opportunity for democrats to underscore to the american people just how much donald trump does not have their
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interests in mind. he doesn't really care about their groceries, gas and rent. and that's going to give democrats a huge opportunity going into the midterm elections to say we're the ones who actually know how to govern and respect the constitution will bring back for real, our democracy, and we will continue to bring down the price of groceries, gas and rent the way that we did. working with joe biden in, in when during his presidency. >> before we get to all of that, there is, of course, going to be an inauguration later today. ron, before i let all of you go, just, um, i love the fact that we had you inside right as the pool reporter for the last inside inauguration. but what are you watching for? >> yeah, i think i'm really watching for the tone. right. i mean, is it american carnage redux or is it someone who believes he can reach beyond his core base and in some way cement them into his movement? you know, as i
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say, trump has been throughout his career a base politician, one who is focused more on energizing his core supporters by demonizing people outside of his coalition than he has about trying to woo them in. he did broaden the coalition. i mean, he made historic gains among nonwhite voters, especially men, largely because of their discontent over the economy. and, you know, i don't think, you know, at 78, there's not going to be a new donald trump. you know, that's not really on offer. but there is the chance for a different nuance, you know, and a lot of what we saw in the transition was the continuation of kind of very polarizing approach on a lot of, you know, whether it's the wildfires in california or other issues. and i think, you know, we'll have to see the inauguration. the inaugural address is not always a perfect, you know, guidepost for what's coming. but if you don't go big, broad and inclusive in the inaugural address, it's probably not
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coming later. >> ron brownstein, and maria cardona, it's been lovely spending the last couple of hours with you. thank you all. >> you too. erica. thank you. >> thanks for having us. thank you. >> donald trump's agenda is, of course, full of plans to wipe away joe biden's legacy. the outgoing president, however, doesn't want to fight fire with fire when he hands over the reins. so how will that play out with a little bit of a hand over at the white house? we'll take a closer look. >> i lay on my back, frozen, thinking the darkest thoughts, and then everything changed. dana said, you're still you and i love you, super man. >> the christopher reeve story february 2nd on cnn. >> oof! stuck pink. that old phone. don't be. you know that verizon will pay off your phone and you'll get iphone 16 on us. that's a value of up to $1,600 only on verizon.
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years, as you just heard. after being sworn in later today, he does intend to roll back a number of the biden administration's policies, tackling everything from energy to immigration. despite trump's digs, biden plans to restore the peaceful power transfer of power that trump, of course, denied to him four years ago. he will uphold some inaugural traditions for the man he has not too long ago described as a threat to democracy. among those traditions, leaving a letter for donald trump in the oval office. also riding in the same limo is trump to the capitol as former president barack obama did with then president-elect trump in 2017, as well as hosting a morning tea reception for the trumps at the white house. joining us now, leslie vinjamuri, who's the head of the u.s. and the americas program at chatham house, the royal institute of international affairs in london. leslie, nice to have you here. these these few norms, right. which are which are being upheld. how important are they overall? they almost seem like quaint niceties at this point.
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>> oh, i think they're tremendously important in terms of signaling. >> remember we had 77 million americans vote for donald trump, but we had just shy of 75 million that did not vote for donald trump. and so president biden playing that role is a signal to all of kamala harris voters to america and to the to the rest of the world that this is an important, um, peaceful transition that he has accepted. and and the voters who voted democrat have accepted that transition. and if you put that in contrast to, as we all reflect back on january 6th, 2021, it is a remarkably important symbolic move. couldn't be more important. >> there's also, you know, you talk about looking back to to january 6th of 2021. there is also the not just in the united states and what it means for voters in the u.s. as, as as you rightfully lay out. but the
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symbolism that it has on the global stage absolutely. >> people are watching the united states. they're preparing. never have i seen people here in the uk, across europe, across asia, in mexico and canada spending quite so much time focused on and preparing for what they anticipate will come from president trump. but they also look at america's democracy. and there is a concern about the polarization, about the division across any number of dimensions. people outside of the united states also have that memory. they're looking to see whether this will be a peaceful transition, how people on the streets will respond and how america's congress, its institutions will function, what the level of, you know, so-called resistance will be, or whether this is going to be
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less chaotic than i think many people anticipated an extraordinary amount of chaos. and they're reading each one of these signals to try and understand what the nature of governance will be. and obviously, there's a deep fixation on the concrete policies that people anticipate coming their way. most especially, i think number one is tariffs. um, and more generally, the the questions of war and peace. obviously, what donald trump will do when it comes to reaching out to russia's leader, vladimir putin, on the question of ukraine. um, it looms very large here in europe that has very significant and potentially immediate consequences and costly ones that europeans are almost existentially concerned about. um, so people are watching. they've been preparing. this is not like last time. they've been anticipating the arrival of president trump, obviously, since november. >> it's not like last time, you know, for the rest of the
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world, right. as they're watching, it's also not like last time for the incoming president because he too has a much better understanding of how things work in washington and by all accounts, will be using that to his advantage. we're a little tight on time, but but before we go, you mentioned tariffs. um, we are told there could be some movement on that tomorrow in one of these executive orders or actions. um, immigration as well is a big one. um, how how much does immigration figure into what the discussion is outside of the u.s.? >> i think the, the question of how hard these crackdowns will be, what will the deportations look, um, look like, how nasty will they be? how measured will they be? it matters here in in europe, certainly, because there are all sorts of political groups and social organizations that very much would like to mirror and mimic that very strong anti-immigration sentiment. and people, again, people watch
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what the united states does. they take it as a symbol. some take it as an opportunity to adopt similar tactics or policies. immigration is a very, very difficult issue. you know, here in europe, there's an aging population, there's a need for immigration, but there's also a demand to be very strong on borders and people. again, they always look to the united states. now they will be looking to president trump to see what is possible, what is acceptable, what is desirable, and what people will and won't tolerate. >> leslie, i really appreciate your insight. thank you. >> thank you. >> well, as we've noted, president elect donald trump will be taking the oath of office indoors. of course, inauguration attendees will be squeezing into the capitol rotunda because of the snowfall and the below freezing temperatures in the forecast. just what is the weather in d.c. that was
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