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now. >> oh, you're going to have a lot of fun watching television. i said, like hell, we're going to do it over winks. we're going to sign them at the beginning on inauguration day, president-elect trump already preparing to take dozens of sweeping actions within hours of taking office. >> on this day, we also honor civil rights leader doctor martin luther king jr.. trump is pledging to release all classified records connected to his assassination, as well as the assassinations of president john f kennedy and robert f. kennedy, and tiktok went dark for users over the weekend, but now it's back. donald trump is taking credit. is it here to stay? all right. it is 5 a.m. here on the east coast. this is a live look at the white house. this is, of course, joe biden's last night in that house as president trump and his

wife, melania move in after he takes the oath of office. all right. it is wonderful to have you with us as we kick off this inauguration day. i'm kasie hunt. america is waking up to history on this inauguration day as donald trump prepares to sweep back into power. four years ago, he tried a different approach to remaining in the white house, rallying his supporters. on january 6th in what the house select committee on january 6th called an effort to disrupt the peaceful transfer of power. now, his predecessor is extending him a courtesy that he didn't receive on this day in 2021. president biden will host the trumps at the white house for tea before he rides with him to the inauguration. four years ago, trump skipped town before biden's inauguration, flying away from the white house hours before the transfer of power. but that is not what today will look like. today, biden will attend trump's swearing in, returning the nation to a more normal transfer of power again.

peaceful. once that moment happens at noon. the president elect is promising sweeping action with dozens of executive orders at the ready. >> you're going to see executive orders that are going to make you extremely happy. lots of them. we're going to stop the invasion of our borders, or we're going to stop the destructive and divisive diversity, equity and inclusion mandates. somebody said yesterday, sir, don't sign so many in one day. let's do it over a period of weeks. i said, like hell, we're going to do it over weeks. we're going to sign them at the beginning. >> all right. joining us now for our coverage of donald trump's inauguration is cnn's john berman, who is out in the cold. the rest of the country will not be experiencing the inauguration that way, because, of course, it's been moved inside for the first time since the year i was born. john, you've made your way up to the capitol. what are you seeing so

far on this historic day? actually, looking down on lafayette park behind us right now. and as you said, you know, it's not warm. >> it's like 25 degrees right now. >> not expected to get any warmer. >> although i will say it's significantly warmer than when ronald reagan moved his inauguration inside in 1985. that was about seven degrees. so this is downright balmy compared to that. and as casey noted, waking up to history here in washington, d.c., and i'm here with audie cornish and audie behind us, we're kind of looking down on history because behind us, directly behind us is a white house where a president is sleeping, but also blair house, where a former and future president is sleeping or waking up and it's the same guy this time it is. >> and when i think back to trump's inauguration, which i attended back in 2017, there was a real question mark in the air. people were shocked. there was a resistance air quotes building. >> so the preparations on the

street were around protests. >> you had a number of democrats who said they weren't going to be attending at all. >> the atmosphere is very different this time around where it's quiet, not just because of the security, but because of, i guess, the full supplication of so many different communities, whether they be the republican establishment or corporations, they are all here to pay deference to someone who's had the most deft and stunning political comeback in decades. >> and we've seen it, man. have we seen them out and about over the last 24 to 48 hours? >> yeah, it's just a very different energy in particular because because things were moved indoors, it also allowed the trump folks to hold this indoor rally, which is not usually the approach heading into inauguration, which is all about sort of bringing people together, saying to the folks who didn't vote for you, come aboard. >> this felt like a further extension of the campaign and more of a victory rally on the eve of something that in other

contexts, might feel a little more sort of compromise oriented or open to other parts of the country. >> yeah. look, as i said, a whole bunch of things that we've you and i have never seen, we weren't here in, what, 1893? last time we had a president inaugurated for a second time. but it is there are a number of things you and i will be talking about over the course of the next two hours. a number of things, to watch for today. it's really a series of set pieces. every inauguration is, but today even more so because, as audie said, you know, it's all indoors, weather protected. and it may make things seem a little bit more scripted. >> casey. yeah, i'm interested to see it because it's obviously not something that we've seen in in the last 40 years or so. so it's all going to be new and different for all of us. john and audie are going to stick with us through the next couple of hours. we'll be back to you soon. but our panel is also here. margaret talev, senior contributor at axios sabrina rodriguez, national political reporter at the washington post megan hayes, former biden white house director of message planning, and matt gorman, former senior adviser for tim scott's

presidential campaign. welcome to all of you. megan hayes, i actually want to take a moment to reflect on one of the things we are going to see that we have seen before, but that is going to be different from the last inauguration. and that is the sitting president embracing an incoming president, bringing him into all of the formalities that we as a country undertake to underscore to people that their votes matter and that there is going to be a peaceful transfer of power from one president to the next. and that is what president biden is planning to do today. >> yeah. and i remember four years ago i worked for president biden then, and we didn't know if donald trump was going to leave the white house. it was a question of if that helicopter was actually going to take off, and if we were going to actually get access to the building on january 20th. so i do think, you know, joe biden is is the ultimate statesman. he is going to do this the right way, the way that the traditions have always done. and that is what he's going to do here. and i think that's important to him, not only for his legacy, but i think it's who he is as a man. >> i mean, look, i think one of the underrated, underreported parts of today is it's the last day of joe biden's political

career, 50 years. and, you know, he leaves office extremely diminished, right? not not that's not me saying that the public polling says that 37%. i think what i saw recently, and i think certainly, um, he, you know, especially since he left the ticket, has done several things, whether it's kind of this grudge against nancy pelosi that's bubbled up over the weekend, some of the pardons and some of the actions around kind of things. he leaves office in a very different spot among democrats, certainly republicans, than he was four years ago. >> so matt mentioned the back and forth with nancy pelosi, margaret talev. and this, of course, comes from a jonathan martin politico column where he quotes nancy pelosi's daughter, alexandra pelosi. and she's got some tough words for the biden family. she said this quote, if i was lady biden, of course, a reference to jill biden comparing her to lady macbeth. i put on my big girl pants, play the long game and think about my husband's legacy.

alexandra pelosi, the former speaker's daughter, told me saturday there aren't that many people left in america who have something nice to say about joe biden. and nancy pelosi is one of them. >> wow, right? like, if not for the fact that all this is overshadowed by an impending inauguration of donald trump, this would be gobbling up all the air space. it's a it's a family feud. and it's a daughter coming to her mother's defense and protection. and the back story of this, of course, is that former speaker pelosi was sort of key to the pressure campaign to. convince president biden that he could not run for reelection again. nancy pelosi, in the meantime, has hurt her hip had a fall. the bidens have not been part of the sort of friends and family group. they have not they haven't talked as far as i know. and so there is a lot of

bitterness here. and it, um, it is a very sort of, uh, obvious marquee lights, um, exploration of what's going on right now, which is not a lot of good feeling inside the republican party, among many with the biden family's final days. i think we just saw jimmy carter's funeral and the accolades a few days ago. i think that was an important moment for president biden, because it did give him some comfort that your legacy, you may be remembered differently than you are in the moment as you exit a presidency. there was one big difference. as we all know, jimmy carter died at 100, had four, had ten times as long after office to work on that legacy. and biden is not going to have that ten x factor. no. uh, right. >> and of course, the question, sabrina, is his legacy, the return of the very thing that he says got him in to the presidential race in 2020, in the first place, which is to prevent the return of donald

trump to power. there was a very large story in the new york times over the weekend detailing how a number of his very closest aides essentially helped protect, keep him in the dark and put him in a position where he made the decision, announced that he was going to run for reelection back in april of 2023. and of course, we know how it ended. >> and this is an incredibly difficult day for joe biden, there's no question. and i think how he has had to navigate the last few weeks is tough. i think, you know, offering that farewell address and saying, you know, how do you toe the line of a bright future for the united states, but you're worried about all these threats? how did you campaign and how a vice president campaigning, talking about, you know, trump being a fascist, this being, you know, a threat to democracy, but you're helping uphold this democratic process. there's a lot of just sensitivities here. and i think really difficult. but but of course, i mean it as megan said, this is joe biden. joe biden is going to be, you

know, do the peaceful power, the peaceful transfer of power. he is going to sit with donald trump today. he is going to talk to trump. he is going to do all the things that that by the book and by tradition. but i think we do all have to recognize that this is tough. and this was not something that was extended to him four years ago. >> megan, is there how much anger is there among democrats at how this played out? because, you know, i think the times put it that he put narcissism over patriotism. is that something that you feel? >> so i do think there's a lot of anger from the democratic party. and i do think that there is and it's not misdirected, but it's also not 100% incredibly fair to joe biden. he did do a lot for this country and did do a lot. but i do think in the moment, there's a lot of anger right now because we are back to the place we did not want to be four years ago. and i think that people are blaming the president for that. and i do think when it comes to his legacy, time will judge him more favorably than today will. but today is going to be a hard day for him. he is ending his political career, but knowing that donald trump is coming back into office is going to be

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>> welcome back. in just a few hours, donald trump will be sworn into the oval office for a second time. and he has vowed to take immediate action in a serious show of executive power. perhaps none more notable than his intention to pardon those convicted. many of those convicted for their roles in the january 6th capitol riot. >> tomorrow, everybody in this very large arena will be very happy with my decision on the j. six hostages. very happy i think you'll be very, very happy. >> roughly 1600 people have been charged in connection with the insurrection. more than 600 of them charged with felony offenses like assaulting or impeding police. this morning, we've learned through multiple sources and court filings that some rioters, both charged and convicted, will be back in the nation's capital for the inauguration. and again, matt

gorman, we talked a little bit about this earlier. when i say earlier in the program, in the middle, in the middle of the night, the day, it's all it's already a long day. no, but look, this is again. and i was at the capitol complex on january 6th. part of what makes donald trump's return and what has kind of underscored, i think, feelings of momentum, even sort of this sense of invincibility, is that all of that happened. and yet here he is, here he has gotten reelected again. i could not have imagined it on that day. >> i know, i mean, and that day, i think many people in this town would agree with you. and we talked about corporations, you know, and folks getting behind trump. they were saying corporations were refusing to give to republicans who were supportive of, you know, a lot around that day, too. i mean, that era that month was was really, you know, a nadir in the party we hadn't seen

since probably obama took office after the bush administration. but in many ways, that makes today and the political resurrection we are seeing culminate today all the more remarkable. and you add in you mix in trials and guilty verdicts. i mean, casey, i you know, i feel like i kind of track a lot of the momentous moments of the campaign and sitting next to you guys, you know, the shooting, the conventions, the the both debates. biden and harris, all of that leading to today. and really, you know, the last ten years, it's remarkable how we are here. >> yeah. i also think, though, that one thing, it was just four years ago. and how quickly time changes. right. so if we want to stick back there four years ago, like you were saying in the last hour, that's not a place that's not a good place for republicans to stay. so i do think the time it can shift very quickly to not be in republicans favor. and they have momentum right now that they might not be seeing in 6 to 8 months or even the next hundred days, depending on what he decides to do. and this, pardon, i think, is a huge part of that.

>> president has the power to use pardons and commutations for a whole number of things to right the wrongs of the past, to send political statements about how they feel about people and issues. and i think for president-elect trump, even if there are several hundred of these folks who have been convicted around whom there is violence, violence against police officers, there are many, many hundreds more of whom are sort of in a slightly less controversial category, although still controversial, part of his entire argument for all of these past four years has been that there was nothing wrong, that these people are great americans. they didn't do anything wrong. so it's not surprising to me at all that out of the gate, he wants to use some of his powers to to sort of further that narrative and build excitement among his base. right. and i think the question is, is there going to be any backlash for him, or is he just going to go shock and awe with so many executive

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>> we will end four years of failure, disaster and decline. and we will begin the four greatest years in the history of our country. we're going to turn it around. we're going to turn it around quick, and we're going to do things that nobody thought even were possible. >> trump's plans include action on some of his biggest campaign trail, promises like immigration reform and what they're calling government operations. his incoming deputy chief of staff for policy, stephen miller, shared some insight into some of these actions on a call with senior congressional republicans yesterday. joining us now axios trump white house reporter mark caputo. mark good morning. lovely to see you. good to see you. thanks for being here. so let's i want to talk about just how different this is than it was in 2016. what this town is bracing for and how trump is kind of being embraced in ways that for, frankly, the whole rest of his life, he was often rejected. >> he finally submitted

everyone. >> this was the donald trump that knew he was going to win all along, whereas in 2016, i think he kind of lucked into it. >> and whereas washington wasn't prepared for him in 2017, i think it's at least prepared for him now. but he has promised an administration where he is going to exact a measure of revenge. so i think there are some people who are a little worried. >> yeah. no. of course. maureen dowd put it this way, and she's of course, kind of speaking, i think, for for democrats who feel there is a chill in washington. that's the headline that donald trump brings a chill to washington. and she writes that trump is returning. this is this is a little bit different. the mood is very different in washington this time around. instead of having this rowdy resistance and a women's march that drew some 5 million people across the globe, you have a much different thing. it's republicans who've gotten even more sheep like democrats, who still seem deflated and flummoxed. no compelling ideas or polls to lead them out of the wilderness. and she also notes trump is returning as a

colossus. he has brought washington democrats and republicans to heel. he's teamed up with elon musk. he slapped a gold trump sign on silicon valley. but this, of course, you know, it's hard to forget that this is all happening in the same capitol that was ransacked on january 6th, four years ago. >> and not only that, but somehow the ransacking of the capitol, the riot at the capitol, donald trump was able to turn into a political advantage in the republican party. he made the party submit to his will. and now here he is able to essentially kind of rewrite history, not only about january 6th, but you were talking earlier about tiktok, for instance. he has this amazing ability to judo and jujitsu away. you know, his way into these winning positions. now, you know, things come at you fast in politics and in america. so how long is he going to remain on top? i'm not sure. but for the next two

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seat inside the capitol rotunda. that is where the ceremonies have been moved because of the cold. jeff bezos, mark zuckerberg, openai, sam altman, google, sundar pichai all confirmed plans to attend, and they were set to sit near trump's cabinet nominees before weather forced the ceremony indoors. elon musk, of course, front and center, he will be there, no doubt. he joined donald trump on stage at his rally overnight, telling supporters it was time to make significant changes and set a foundation for a stronger america we're looking forward to making a lot of changes and you know, the. >> this this victory is is the start, really. thank you. >> ellen. >> i always say we have to be protective of our geniuses because we don't have too many. but that one is a good one. >> right back here with cnn's audie outside in the cold. and we just got some excerpts. the wall street journal did from

donald trump's inaugural address. and one of the statements he will apparently make is a call for a revolution in common sense. interesting. the connection between that and all these tech ceos we're seeing. >> yeah, in a way, because so much of that common sense talk we heard during the campaign was around the issue of anti-woke ism, right? >> going against diversity, equity, inclusion, a lot of things that were raised out of the progressive movements in 2020, and some of silicon valley was exhausted with that as well. in terms of its c-suite. so i think that there is a little bit of a linking there of interests. some of these folks are, of course, pivoting because of the change in power. some of them were interested in this pivot because they were also exhausted, and they're part of the movement that says, look, maybe we've had enough talking about these issues. i think mark zuckerberg is someone who has made that most pronounced shift. >> the other sentence that we have in the wall street journal is that donald trump will

proclaim this new era of national success. i guess the question is by what metric, by what metric, and for whom. >> you have a president who, as always, is building on this movement and coalition on the ideas of nationalism and american populism. you also have this wealth class that he is really gripping in a bear hug with silicon valley. and so you're going to have probably the highest concentration of wealth ever sitting in and around him. biden says that that is oligarchy, right? looking at those people trying to gain influence. someone like steve bannon says, look, maybe this is trump bringing that community to heel. so over the next four years, what we're going to find out is who is this success for? who is really going to benefit from trump being in power? >> that's a really good point. and we may start seeing it today in the inaugural address, and we will certainly start seeing it in the next several months, is how does donald trump tie these two? what he considers to be now his bases together, these ceos rebalance

their interests. >> they don't always come together. you saw that in terms of immigration already, there was that little kind of kerfuffle online a few weeks ago between maga. that's very anti-immigration, and the tech ceos, including musk, who say, look, we actually need talent from abroad. so there are going to be places where there are clashes. and he has such a narrow majority in the house, way less than he did when he came into power in 2017. >> the question is, do you think he will speak to one or another of those groups today or both? and then, of course, there's that third group, the roughly 49% of americans who didn't vote for him. how much do you anticipate he will speak or even make a nod to them? right. >> or americans at all, right. i mean, fundamentally, bringing this into the room runs the danger of speaking to the room for the room for these people who have paid a tremendous amount of money to be part of the ceremonies, and not being outside, not having the parade, it sort of changes the atmosphere. so i'm going to be

curious about who that speech is really built for and how it comes off to the people at home who will now will be sort of experiencing it through a second screen. >> and of course, we will be watching some of the only ones out in the cold today, because so much of this has moved indoors. casey. but but nevertheless, it will be an exciting day kicking off behind us here in about two hours or so. >> i can't say that i was disappointed when i heard that i was going to be able to move indoors for covering the parade later on today, so i hope you guys you look. you don't look as cold as you could, so i'm glad things are working out there. let's our panel is back with us here. and i guess i would call this an excerpt that we have received just in from the wall street journal. but it is noteworthy. it's this quote i returned to the presidency. trump is expected to say, confident and optimistic, that we're at the start of a thrilling new era of national success. a tide of change is sweeping the country. my message to americans today is

that it is time for us to once again act with courage, vigor and the vitality of history's greatest civilization. so this is, uh, does contrast with margaret, the combative trump, who in 2017, they write, lamented american carnage. >> right. this is certainly more upbeat than american carnage. if he's going to talk about common sense there, there are a number of ways that that messaging appeals across the partisan aisle to americans. americans have said pretty clearly and consistently in polling that they think some elements of d have gone too far, but they, like other elements of it when it comes to immigration, undocumented immigration. americans have said across party lines that they think our borders need to be able to be controlled better than they have been in recent years, but they don't want some of the more acute versions of mass deportation families

and children separated. the use of the u.s. military in an immigration kind of setting like this. so the question is, and i certainly think like, uh, i don't know that common sense means pardoning january 6th protesters reclassifying thousands of federal employees so that they're easier to fire and push around. and some of the other elements that we're expecting to see in the coming days and weeks. so the speech will set a tone, but the speech may not match some of the actions that we think are stacked up. to begin rolling out very quickly. >> matt gorman, let's kind of talk a little bit about how and i know you think about this. and megan does too. so i'd love it if you both weighed in. but the the way that moments like this, this is going to be a huge historical moment, right? they are shaped by many things. right. and the visuals matter kind of the context matters. the the sweep, the fact that this is going to be inside and we talk about it like it's a logistical note. it is. it's too cold. they're worried about

the crowds that may or may not have showed up on the mall, but it's going to mean that the speech itself, when you watch it on tv, or if you're watching a clip on your phone the way so many americans will consume something like this nowadays, it's going to feel different. and the risk, of course, is that it will feel smaller to have a speech delivered inside in the rotunda than it would if he were standing on that capitol front. that big, sweeping crowd out in front of him, what they're putting out. and this is, of course, the first excerpt that we've received on this morning, specifically to the wall street journal. this is clearly what they want to say about how they want to frame the coverage. that's going to lead up to his address. how are those things going to interact with each other? and can the sweep that they're clearly going for? revolution of common sense. the sweeping, historical, upbeat language, how is that going to be affected by the fact that he's going to be inside a much smaller room, with a much smaller crowd? >> i don't actually think it to me that that too much, because the historical photos of inauguration are tend to be tight shots. i always kind of laugh, look over, look who's over the president's shoulder. it's usually somebody kind of

random, usually the spouse of a congressional person. so these tend to be very tight. if you're if you've been on the dais. i don't know megan if you have. but like they're very, very tight quarters. >> and so they try to pack as many people as physically possible. and people demand, here's what it looks like on the inside. this is what reagan's inauguration looked like back in 1985. >> you know? >> and so, for example, i know paul pelosi was behind one of them, janna ryan, paul ryan's wife, was behind one another. so these are tight shots. it will obviously be tighter here. i will say this, though, when i first learned about the excerpt, when john pointed it out, i my first thought was this is in large part why he won, right? this common sense narrative that he really tried to strike throughout the entire campaign, whether it's something i mean, the other day we talked about biological men playing women's sports, things like that, that cut very clear and cross partisan lines. i think that is how they're going to want to couch all of these executive orders. and the first 100 days agenda. >> yeah, i do think that the inauguration is going to feel a little small ball being inside.

it's the open air spaces, and that those shots are pretty magnificent when you like zoom out. i do think he was probably worried about his crowds and that's why we're moving inside. but i also don't think it matters what he says in his speech. in a month and two months, people are going to look. have you lowered my cost? and that is the only thing that is going to matter to the american people is, did you bring costs down like you said you were going to? that is why we voted for you. so i think that he has a tall order here because i don't you you are not going to be able to lower costs with executive orders. >> all right. >> coming up next here, tiktok is back. the inauguration technically has not even begun. hours after trump promised an executive order to delay enforcement of the divest or ban law, bytedance bytedance app welcomed back users. why trump says he had no choice. and with the wind chill factor making it the coldest inauguration in 40 years, how different an indoor inauguration will be. we're joined by presidential historian doris kearns goodwin. that's ahead.

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>> over the years, millions of documents have become public, offering researchers and conspiracy theorists alike the opportunity to pore over these records. in his first term. trump released tens of thousands of documents related to jfk's killing, but the cia, pentagon and state department all still have documents. they have refused to release. i have to say, i am interested. i feel like this is another one of those trump things where everybody actually really wants to see all these files. >> i am so all in, matt. >> i mean, it's what talk about. i mean, is this actually going to happen? >> i hope it does. i mean, look. on a serious note, the overclassification of documents is a serious problem in the government. they just needlessly overclassifying. but on a more fun note, well, somewhat fun. yes, the jfk conspiracy theorists and, you know, little assassination nuts, of which i would kind of slightly consider myself one, are going to pore over these

documents, especially with the 50 over 50 anniversary. there's a lot of poring over exactly what happened on that day, what did or didn't happen, the government's response to it and the like. and so this is going to be fascinating. it's also showmanship. he loves this stuff. >> yeah, yeah. >> i think the further out we move from the time when these things happen, the harder it is to justify keeping it under wraps as a journalist. obviously i want to see all the documents, but only just a few years ago there were like cia and national security officials had real concerns about the release of these. what changed? did anything change? also a footnote to this. they are not committing to releasing everything they are committing. he is committing to releasing what he wants to release. so i think we need to keep a skeptic's eye about what gets released and how much hasn't yet been released, and how selective that is. >> yeah, and i guess the question is like, is the good stuff in what is not going to be released right stuff? or is there good stuff to not release? but but i think this obviously plays into what trump loves to do, the showmanship of it. like matt said, i think that i think for all of us,

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it's monday, january 20th, which means it is inauguration day, right now. >> you're going to see executive orders that are going to make you extremely happy. lots of them. lots of them. >> a stunning comeback. donald trump sweeping back into power, promising big changes quickly. d.c. deep freeze. how historically cold temperatures in washington are putting some inauguration plans on ice. and one last ride. president biden

planning to spend hours with trump ahead of the swear ing in ceremony. the letter he plans to leave behind in the oval office. all right. it is 6:00 a.m. here on east coast. a live look at the white house, which has been illuminated in the last hour, as we have been talking here. this, of course, president biden's last night in that house. good morning, everyone. i'm kasie hunt. it is wonderful to have you with us. today, donald trump will be inaugurated for the second time. a political resurrection, that because of the frigid weather here in d.c. , will unfold inside the capitol rotunda, a place that, four years ago, was overrun by trump's supporters trying to overturn the results of the 2020 election. those rioters defacing the halls of congress as they looked for lawmakers, including trump's own vice president. >> hang mike pence!