they count that as 80. requiring federal workers return to the office five days a week. and that is in addition to orders trump is expected to sign later tonight. those include the formal declaration of a national emergency at the southern border and ending birth right citizenship. that of course is a right in the constitution that if you are born in the united states you are a citizen, terminating

diversity programs, and declaring the federal government will only recognize two genders, male and female, which reverses protections put t in place for transgender people. trump is also expected to pardon members of the mob that attacked the capitol on january 6, 2021, when he returns to the white house tonight. that is something that has been at the core of all of his talk today. there is so much to get to. jeff zeleny is at the rally where trump just spoke. let le start with you, just coming from that arena

what he would do on day one. and of course he went several others, withdrawing from the paris climate

according is who trump often refers to as the j6 hostages. before on the campaign trail, we only heard trump talk about this or go into detail when he was asked my reporters, what did he plan to do, did he plan to pardon everyone or just on a case-by- case basis? he is eager to pardon the january 6th criminal convicted individuals i should note, because he was talking about it at length with all of his supporters there. the question is what this looks like, what the scope of this is, and whether or not those convicted with the most serious crimes here like seditious conspiracy or assault on a law enforcement officer, whether or

not they are included in that. it is very clear that trump is angling to do this and quite eager to do this on his first day in office. and also very clearly still fuming over the biden -- over the pardons president biden signed on his way out the door this morning when he had just a few hours left in the oval office. not the ones necessarily for his family. but trump was saying his team was urging him not to talk about the pardons biden signed for liz cheney and the other members of the january 6th congressional committee in his speech. he said twice now that people were urging him not to talk about january 6th in his speech today. but of course he is going to be coming into the oval office, signing those pardons for the january 6th convicted individuals. as president biden started this morning signing the pardons for the january 6th investigative committee. >> yeah. i mean, certainly the center of the day in terms of what he has spent his time on. caitlin, thank you very much. everyone is here with me. ashley, look, he is going to

be doing more tonight. we will see what the meat on the bones is of who gets what on those january 6th pardons versus commuting sentences. but deleted literally 80 of president biden's policies with the swoop of a pen. >> that's the power of politics. your team wins, with the power of the pen, you make these kind of decisions. i haven't heard him signing anything on price gouging, lowering prices, the president, two issues he won on. one was the border. the other was, as he said, the price of groceries. i find it interesting those are not his priorities. he's giving red meat to his base, but he's not fulfilling the promises he made to lower prices. i think that creates an opportunity for democrats. democrats are going to have to call his bluff on advancing this populist agenda.

it was j.d. vance who said he's failed to do that in his first term. now he's got another at-bat. i think this creates an opportunity to paint donald trump as someone who really cares about himself, first pardons january 6th, folks that went to the capitol and tried to burn it down at his behest. >> as you're speaking here, ashley, the president is coming up here on the north lawn of the white house sbrrks for the first time as president, right? coming in. he's going to be changing, getting ready to go to the balls. caitlin is standing there, and i know -- caitlin, can you see them from where you are? >> yeah. the first police car has made its way into the north lawn of the white house. i just want to say, this is unusual. i've covered the white house for a long time. typically presidents come in on the south lawn. on the day of the inauguration, there's the beast pulling into the white house, two of the presidential limos that are pulling in. and there is president trump riding in that one right there. we can see his outline as

he makes his way. this is his first time being back at the white house since january 2021. a lot of his staff i should note has been here for a few hours, erin, including the chief of staff, susie wiles. elon musk was seen here on the white house grounds earlier actually going inside the west wing at one point earlier. but this is the first time that president trump himself has returned to the white house since he was here obviously briefly earlier for that meeting with president biden, the coffee and tea that they had. but this is the first time he's been back since it's his white house and he has been sworn in again. >> yeah. and watching him get out of that car, the beast, and walk in, we will get the salute. he will -- he is back. >> he's back. >> he is back. you see that here. this is the visual manifestation of it. but that has been the tone and the feeling. i spent the day in that capitol arena. that is the way that his supporters feel. they are back. he is back. >> in his speech, one of

the lines that really stuck out to me was he said, i returned to the presidency, confident and optimist you can. it does feel different than eight years ago when it, sort of, felt like washington was befuddled by what is this going to look like? and frankly even trump may not have known what levers of power do i have and how do i pull them to get what i want? he comes back in now knowing exactly how to get what he wants. and he's using those sharpies on the first day to try to do it. >> he's going in. he will greet staff. he will see his staff. he will have that home coming, which interestingly was former president biden this morning who reached out and said, welcome home. >> yeah, look, this is the proe process. and i'm happy to see it. the american people had an opportunity between two candidates. i noticed something ashley said about this potential opportunity for democrats to paint the president as being selfish. they had an opportunity to make that argument to the american people, and they failed. the american people made a decision, including many democrats, including many

groups that typically vote for democrats, hispanics, black men in certain states like pennsylvania, north carolina, and texas. and they resoundedly rejected the argument coming from the democratic party. my advice to my democratic friends here would be to have a little humility. understand why you lost. understand why the american people rejected the message coming from former president biden, then-vice president harris once she became the nominee for the democratic party. and i have yet to see that from any single democrat thus far. >> sure. >> all i have seen is the constant contrasting of why they think trump would be terrible and harris would have been better or why trump is only about his own self-perseverance, self-interest. >> respond? >> i think one thing we don't have an appreciation for is donald trump ran four years against joe biden. kamala harris had 100 days. donald trump ran for four years. i was talking to paulo, and i said, how do you speak someone who has such an

incredible showing who has a pension for lying, lying to the american people. i would take your argument if he played fair and was honest with the american people. but the reality is he spent four years lying about his record and lying about joe biden. >> you have equal opportunity to make your case to the american people. >> during his speech, the things that got the most rousing response, two genders, okay? you expect that. that had been a part of dei, esg, all the acronyms kellyanne conway got up and talked about. now we're talking about the panama canal and american flag on mars. none of those things came up during the campaign. it came up after the campaign. i understand that was his base. they didn't care that wasn't what they voted for. they care that's what he's about now. >> those folks are -- we welcome them. they're not analytically interesting to me.

because they're totally for trump. and that's fine just like people totally for the democrats not very analytically interesting. what's interesting, as you said, he got elected -- he didn't get elected because people want to buy greenland. he got elected because people want to buy groceries. and he best be in the business of cutting the prices of groceries and rent. we shouldn't be the donkey. democrats should be the large mouth bass. we chase every shiny object and wham, we hit it. >> no offense to donkeys, but i could understand why one would be tired of being a donkey. >> a large mouth bass is smart. when they hit that hook -- here's my point. he -- he has a mandate to cut the cost of groceries, gas, and rent. he promised to cut the cost of energy in half. okay. i spent some time today in the real world, a lot of time. you've probably done this a lot. but the st. louis fed has the best economic data. it's really accessible. so, i spent a lot of time on the

website just looking. gas is $2. 95 a gallon now. he's got to cut that in half. he promised us. eggs are $4. 14 a carton. he said -- these are his words. he promised pretty dramatic price reductions at the grocery store. pretty dramatic price reductions. this is just a few days ago he said this. he's got to cut those costs. i hope he does. i'm skeptical because i don't think he gives a rip snort about those blue collar guys who voted for him. i think he only cares about those billionaires he surrounded himself with today. >> and they were there, of course, close with the family. you saw mark zuckerberg, tim cook, elon musk, jeff bezos, all with the family, the trump family. >> right. >> at the actual inauguration itself. but the theme that has gone through the entire day that they were there for has been january 6 and these pardons. when do you think we're going to find out what the details are on this? >> on the january 6 pardons? >> yeah. it's been there throughout the day, yet we don't have this.

>> i think the difficulty with that is it has to be specific. well, it doesn't have to be. but one would hope it would be specific to each individual case. and it could be that he has to sign the orders for a whole bunch of different individuals. when we break down the january 6 cases, when i think about how he might apply his pardon power, i am looking to see whether he does it in, sort of, different categories. so, there are individuals who were prosecuted for non- violent offenses, trespassing, things like that. most of those people have already been through their legal process. they may have already served whatever sentence or consequences that they had under the justice system. and so then that would be one category of people and one whole list of names. then there's individuals who were involved in violence. so, i have a question as to whether or not he really will pardon or commute sentences of individuals involved in violence, particularly given the number of law enforcement

personnel who were injured and several who later died. and then there's the seditious conspiracy case, as kaitlan referred to earlier, which is very, very serious charge, jury, guilty finding, long sentences. i think those -- he can't just do one order. i don't expect that he would do one order for all of it. >> all right. all stay with me. thank you very much. all going to stay with us through this hour. as president trump is expected to pardon -- make those pardons and those distinctions that carrie is talking about are so crucial. we have new details on that evan perez, what he's hearing. we're also outside live, outside the jail where many defendants are awaiting word. breaking news, trump's crackdown on immigration. we're just learning senior leaders in justice department's immigration office have been removed as trump is expected to declare a formal national emergency at the southern border. alex pe dia of california

responds. and trump about to sign more executive orders at the white house tonight before going to those balls. what are those?

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breaking news, president trump is just announcing those sweeping pardons for january 6th defendants. >> tonight, i'm going to be signing on the j6 hostages, pardons, to get them out. and as soon as i leave, i'm going to the oval office and will be signing pardons for a lot of people.

>> trump making good on a campaign promise that his supporters are expecting him to deliver on and pretty much right away. he did telegraph the move during his inauguration in the same room where the violence unfolded just four years ago. let's start with the breaking news of what we know is about to happen. evan perez out front in washington. evan, the bottom line here is that this means a whole bunch of people could be literally getting out of -- getting a get out of jail card, pretty much right now. >> right, erin. what we know is this. we're hearing from the lawyers who are representing the folks who are still in prison. what they're saying is their plans are being processed. the possibility is they could be released as soon as tonight. how does that happen? we do know this. we know that the white house has not officially made any announcements about who is getting pardoned, who is getting commutations. we know that at least some of the people who were prosecuted on the january 6

cases are getting commutations, and some are getting pardons. who gets what, we are still not clear on. but clearly the staff at the bureau of prisons are being told to prepare to release some of these people. so, there is some paperwork that's perhaps already been sent. again, we don't know exactly what has been done. but the president has said, just now as you saw in that clip, he's saying when he gets to the oval office he is going to sign pardons. again, i remind people that of the 1,600 people that have been prosecuted, being prosecuted, 1,200 have already been convicted and 700 of them have already completed their sentences. so, presumably, that would be -- people would be probably more subject to pardons, right? >> yes. >> and what donald trump is asking for, what he wants to do, is to show on day one some impact of what -- of his election. so, we anticipate that a lot of people, including some of the big names that you have seen in those videos, violent videos, people who got really lengthy

sentences, they could be receiving at least -- at the very least -- a commutation, which would allow them to get out of prison, perhaps as soon as tonight or in the next day or so. >> incredible as soon as tonight, evan. i'm curious, though, what your understanding is, your reporting is, on why the lack of clarity? i mean, it's something you wanted to do right away. >> yeah. >> but yet we don't know who's in what category. we don't know literally if there's jail cells opening in places for the 500 people still serving, even the non- violent offenders' terms. why is that? >> look, i think that reflects a little bit of the uncertainty that the president himself has injected into this process. people behind the scenes, some of his advisers have talked to me and paul and others as part of our reporting the past few weeks, and they were really pushing for the president to have a process whereby they could review some of the cases. and some of the people who committed violence against police officers, that perhaps they would be treated differently. the president, though, has

resisted this all along. he has pushed for more of a broad approach, whereby he wants people out of prison as soon as he takes office. so, that's really what you're seeing play out. there's been a bit of an opaqueness and a bit of -- unsure about exactly what path he's going to take. again, part of this is a little bit of the trump production. he wants a little bit of a show. and we're all watching to see exactly how he does it. >> right. well, perhaps this is exactly the show he wanted. evan, thank you very much. >> sure. so, all eyes now on the prisons, right? and there is a prison in washington where january 6th defendants are waiting to be released, many of them being held there. elle reeve, if you watch this show, you know she has been doing extensive reporting on the defendants and their supporters and spent time with their families. elle, what are you hearing tonight? you're right outside that prison. >> reporter: so, they were so emotional, they were almost in

tears. i spoke to a lot of people here who just -- i mean, it was almost like some kind of holiday. one father, he had kids who have been in this prison, in this jail, for a year. and he spoke with a lot of emotion. take a look. >> your kids, are they charged with felonies? >> yeah, charged with everything in the book. they were -- they -- they wanted to destroy our family. they don't do bank robbers like they've done our family. they don't do rapists like they've done our family. >> we personally would like a full pardon on everybody, and we believe the justification for that is this was a big entrapment operation. we're viewing this day as in american history as the release of the iranian hostages. it's that momentous, what is occurring today. >> we're hopeful. we're happy. today's our day. >> reporter: so, just a few minutes ago i was on a bus that a group the j6

association chartered to bring jan sixers to the hotel. other jan 6ers6ers calling the eagle's nest on capitol hill. there's a lot of money available to the people. there's a lot of financing to help people get their lives back together. >> elle, thank you very much. elle's done such incredible reporting to be there, to actually watch those moments. i mean, it is pretty incredible the moment this country is in watching this happen today and it might happen tonight. up next now, turned his father in to the fbi for participating in the insurrection. guy is in prison serving a six and a half year sentence for rioting at the capitol on general election. serving his sentence. jackson, i appreciate your time. here we are and trump is announcing pardons for january 6 defendants. this could include your father, who's serving a six year sentence, six and a half

year sentence, as we speak. what's your reaction? >> well, i'm honestly flabbergasted that we've gotten to this point. i mean, i'm terrified. i don't know what i'm going to do. i've taken as many precautions as i could recently. i've picked up a gun. i've moved. and i've -- i've gotten myself away from what i thought would be a dangerous situation in staying where i thought my dad could find me. or other people, you know, people that are going to feel so validated by these actions, by this pardon. i'm just so filled with paranoia about what could happen. i've been waiting all day for aa from the doj to just figure it out and know what to do next. because right now i don't. other than just to sit around and, you know, talk about it.

>> i mean, you're scared, right? you're scared about what could happen from your father specifically or someone else. >> yeah. i don't know what other people i think -- i don't even know what my father's thinking. i've talked to my father before, but it -- i thought it had gotten better. and it really hadn't. my dad is still involved with these militias. he still talks with, you know, a martyr status. he -- he has no change. he's more galvanized than ever that i've seen. my mom, too. my sisters are waiting outside the jail cell right now. and, you know, i feel for them. and i know -- i know who they are, and i love them. but i can't feel safe. and i'm sure hundreds of other families, thousands of other people, that have been affected by these people and their actions and what could happen when they're released. i mean, who knows?

i mean, you know, my dad once called me a traitor. you know, he said traitors get shot. so, i have -- i -- that's, you know, all i can think about recently. and just, you know -- >> i'm sorry, jackson. you mentioned your sisters. and i know you're one of three. and your sisters are there, and you mentioned your mom, too. and your mom and your sr.s isters are fully on board with your father. it really sounds like january 6th broke your family apart. is there any way that -- >> i mean, yep. >> yeah, go ahead. >> it destroyed it. seriously. i mean, my father's actions coming from the trump presidency and what he thought what he was doing was right destroyed it. and i made a very, very disgusting decision to inform authorities about what he was doing, and i still feel horrible about it every day.

and, you know, my sisters are out there right now, and they're rooting for him. you know, i understand that. i come with a point of love towards that. like, i want to be there for them, but i can't. it just isn't safe for people like me that are -- that, you know, have done the same things i have done to do what i thought to do to protect my family. and, you know, it's hard. >> but you still love your father? >> of course. i love him. i love him. i just cannot feel safe around him. cannot feel safe around people he knows. i cannot feel safe around the people my mother knows. my mom has, you know, used my name to sit in front of a crowded room of these far right trump supporters. and whenever she brings up my name and what i've done, the crowd would just roar in just anger, like, what the hell did that kid do? and watching -- being away from all of this and just spectating what they're doing is just terrifying.

and i can't do anything but just spectate. and i don't know. >> well, jackson, i appreciate you're talking. good people can hear it, and i know it comes not without risk, and it comes at cost for you. thank you. >> thank you. good luck. president trump is about to enter the oval office to sign for executive orders and perhaps more information on those pardons. we're going to bring you that live. plus some of the wealthiest and biggest names in corporate america, in technology, specifically, were there front and center at trump's inauguration mixed in with his family members. so, what message does this send?

breaking news, you're looking at live pictures of the white house, where president trump is expected to sign more executive orders any minute in the oval office. just moments ago, marco rubio became trump's first cabinet secretary to get confirmed by the senate. secretary of state rubio. an overwhelmingly bipartisan vote. outfront now, democratic senator alex padilla of california. senator, i appreciate your time. it's god to see you in american. marco rubio, 99-0. good to see something like that in washington. he will be secretary of state, bipartisan. >> absolutely. >> then you have this doj move. basically this is career doj officials who have served

there four decades -- so, that means in administrations, democrat, republican. what is this -- what we're learning? senior leader who is oversee the nation's immigration court system? >> it's a power grabby the new president trump and his administration. they're going to try to bend the agencies and the department of justice for that matter to their will. he comes in with an aggressive agenda, hasn't signed executive orders that we're expecting. but from what we've heard, some that are legally dubious, some that are outright unconstitutional. >> birth right citizenship. >> exactly. it's written into the constitution. literally the 14th amendment. he cannot unilaterally change that. that's the chaos he wants to create. >> he'll sign the executive order. we anticipate that it gets challenged and the courts go through that process. that's what you're talking about. birth right citizenship expected to be signed. u.s. troops going to the southern border. remain

in mexico. deportations. using the alien enemies act of 1798, cartels as terrorist organizations. some of these things, a lot of people could get behind. are there things you could get behind? >> i agree we need to modernize our immigration system as a whole. democrats agree. we need a secure, orderly, and humane southern border. to end asylum -- first of all, it's contrary to federal law. but it's also contrary to international obligations that we have as a country. i think if you ask the general public, you ask the democrats, we agree, we should make sure we prioritize the detention, deportation, the violent criminals. but that's not what trump is talking about. the largest the deportation operation in our country's history is going to carry a lot of innocent people, a lot of people who are critical to our economy and our national security. >> i don't want to be backwards looking about it, but do you

have a frustration at the democratic party that says, look, if you had deported and made a big effort to deport violent criminals before, if situations like laken riley's tragic death were taken differently by the democratic party, then maybe you wouldn't be sitting here having this conversation now? >> part messaging. but i don't think democrats have ever said, no, no, no let's not deport violent criminals. we've always been for that. there's that element of the conversation. there's people coming to the united states seeking asylum. that needs to be addressed. but the people who have been here for years, if not decades action like dreamers, like farmers, essential workers that make our country tick, that's a whole different population. and they deserve better than the chaos that is coming back to their families and their communities under these threats by president trump. >> i very much appreciate your time and thoughts are with you with what you're going through in your state with those fires that are continuing to rage even as we speak. >> there's going to be a lot of need for fema, which i also

know is part of this conversation. thank you very much senator padilla. i appreciate it. president trump did earlier today promise to usher in a, quote, golden age of america, quickly portraying a failing country that's failing its citizens, a failure trump says he'll reverse. >> as we gather today, our government confronts a crisis of trust. for many years the radical and corrupt establishment has extracted power and wealth from our citizens while the pillars of our society lay broken and seemingly in complete disrepair. we now have a government that cannot manage even a simple crisis at home while at the same time stumbling into a continuing catalog of catastrophic events abroad. it fails to protect our magnificent,÷÷ law-abiding american citizens, but provides sanctuary and protection for dangerous criminals. from this moment on, america's decline is over.

>> "out front" now, the republican senator mike rounds of south dakota. senator, it is a pleasure to see you. people can see the magic switch we just did with senator padilla and yourself. that's what we did. that's what sound bites are more. i know you have praised president trump's energy policy. he's talked about a lot of drilling. >> drill, baby, drill is how he put it today. >> that's the way he put it today. filling the strategic petroleum reserve. i know you said there were parts of his speech you would have written differently. like what? >> i would have done it a little bit differently than he did. but he wanted to focus on energy and about fulfilling the promises he's been making on the campaign trail. i agree with him in that respect. i wanted to see the same thing in term ts of sending a message about the safe southern border. i wanted to see a message about the deportations he said would happen. >> we're looking -- while you and i are speaking, trump

is at the desk. these are the executive orders it looks like. now, many of these the ones we had anticipated earlier. we did not have all of those yet. birth right citizenship, for example, crisis at the southern border, a whole list of executive orders. let's listen to it. >> -- for a pardon. full pardon. >> full pardon or commutations? >> full pardon. we have about six commutations in there where we're doing further research. nice to see you again. so, this is a big one. anything you want to explain about this? we hope they come out tonight, frankly. they're expecting it. approximately 1,500 people. six commutations.

we're welcoming at different things, but the commutations will be the ones that we'll take a look and maybe it will stay that way. or it will go to a full pardon. >> and the order does require the bureau of prisons to act immediately on receipt of pardons and commutation orders? >> right. >> sir, this is a -- >> why don't we get them down so they can get them going immediately. >> absolutely. this is a proclamation guaranteeing the states protection against invasion based on the crisis at the southern border and invokes executive powers relating to the ongoing invasion at the southern border. >> those are not going to be blocked by the courts? >> i don't think they will. i don't think they can be. they're very straight up. why don't you take that and go over here? can you get it over here, not on the side. do you mind? just go right over here

with your friends. okay. >> sir, this is an executive order, realigning the united states refugee admission program to better align with american principles and american interests. >> okay. >> sir, this next executive order is about protecting america from foreign terrorists and other national security and public safety threats. again, crisis at the border, but it goes beyond that. it implicates other executive powers as well. >> go ahead.

>> president trump, cartels are now going to be seen as foreign terror organizations, would you think about ordering u.s. special forces in to mexico to take them out? >> could happen. stranger things have happened. >> that was actually -- >> say it? >> how will you make sure that -- will accept venezuelans. >> we're going to see with venezuela. we're looking at venezuela very strongly. it's a country i know very well for a lot of reasons. and it's -- it was a great country 20 years ago. now it's a mess, right? >> sir, can we expect i.c.e. raids starting tomorrow in major cities? >> what does that mean? >> can we expect i.c.e. raids in major cities -- >> i don't want to say when, but it's going to happen. it has to happen or we're not going to have a country left. >> this is an executive order designating the cartels and other foreign organizations to be terrorist organizations. >> that's a big

one. >> yes, sir. >> people have wanted to do this for years. so, they're now designated as terrorist organizations, foreign. and mexico probably doesn't want that. but we have to do what's right. they're killing our people. they're killing 25,300,000 people american a year -- not 100, like has been reported for 15 years. it's probably 300,000. >> this is an -- >> mexico doesn't want -- deal with this? >> i don't know. you'll have to ask them. >> sir, this is an executive order entitled protecting the american people against invasion, which deals the southern border and illegal aliens across the southern border. >> what do you think is

the biggest national security threat to the u.s. , mr. president? what's going to be your priority on foreign policy? >> say? >> what's going to be your priority on foreign policy? >> foreign policy is a big statement. i mean, my priority on foreign policy is going to keep -- it's going to be to keep america safe. very simple. that's a big question. that's a big question. >> who is the first foreign leader you plan to meet, or who are you going to call tomorrow? >> i've already been meeting people. i've been meeting them. i've been talking to them. i met with prime minister trudeau, governor trudeau. i met with numerous foreign leaders. go ahead. >> sir, this -- this next order relates to the definition of birth right citizenship under the 14th amendment of the united states. >> that's a good one. birth right. that's a big one. >> what about that one? that one is -- >> could be.

we have good grounds, but you could be right. you'll find out. it's ridiculous. we're the only country in the world that does this with birth right, as you know. and it's just absolutely ridiculous. we'll see. we think we have very good grounds. >> sir -- >> people have wanted to do this for decades. >> sir, this is a proclamation declaring a national emergency at the southern border of the united states. >> that's a big one. a lot of big ones, huh? you know what that means, right? >> president trump, did president biden leave you a letter? >> he may have. don't they leave it in the desk? i don't know. oh! >> what's in there? thank you, peter. it could have been years. wow. thank you. >> can you read what's on the

inside? >> maybe we should all read it together. >> let's read it. >> maybe i'll read it first and then make that determination. >> that sounds great. >> peter, thank you very much. i may not have seen this for months. >> happy to help with the passing of the torch. >> i did. i left him one in the desk like this. >> what did you talk about today? >> unification of our country. you know, i didn't know that he gave a pardon to his family because he did it during my speech. >> he didn't tell you this? >> no, he didn't tell me. no, no. they released it during my speech -- i mean, during my speech. so, all i could do is say, excuse me, i would like to come back and speak some more. >> mr. president -- >> it's bad precedent, obviously. >> what are you thinking on terrorists in mexico given these actions you're signing on the border? >> we're thinking in terms of 25% on mexico and canada because they're allowing vast numbers

of people. canada is a very bad abuser, also. vast numbers to come in and fentanyl to come in. >> when do you think you would enact those? >> i think february 1st. i think we'll do it february 1st. >> 25%? >> on each. >> on each? >> yeah. >> this is an executive order taking a large number of executive actions to secure our southern border. >> okay. sounds reasonable. >> president trump, we remember four years ago, barack obama told you that the top threat to the country was going to be north korea. did joe biden tell you what he thinks the top threat to the country is? >> no. no. i think we have a lot of them. we really -- i think we have a lot. i think north korea turned out to be good. i was very friendly with him. he liked me. i liked him. we got along very well. and they thought that was a tremendous threat. now, he is a nuclear power.

but we get along. i think he'll be happy to see i'm coming back. i think he has tremendous condo capability. he's got a lot of shoreline. >> -- south america to coordinate immigration? >> about who? >> immigration in general. >> this is an executive order -- sorry, sir. >> i'm fine with legal immigration. i like it. we need people. and i'm absolutely fine with it. we want to have it. we need it because we're going to have a lot of companies coming in to avoid tariffs. you know, if you don't want tariffs, all you have to do is build your plant in the u.s. we're going to have a lot of workers coming in. but we have to have legal immigration. >> do you have a date in mind for when you want to put on the china tariffs? >> which one? >> 60%. >> no. you're talking about which? say it again. >> china tariffs -- >> oh, china. as you know, i put on

large tariffs on china, and they've really been forced to leave them. and if we didn't leave them, you wouldn't have one steel mill that's open in this country. because they were dumping massive amounts of steel. they've taken hundreds of billions of dollars from china because -- and they were unable to terminate the tariffs i put on china because it was too much money. and the budgets didn't work and other things too. we're going to have meetings and calls with president xi. i spoke to president xi last week, as you know. did you know that? very good phone call. >> nato has to pay more money. nato has to pay 5%. we are -- we're in the ukraine war by $200 billion more than nato. it's ridiculous. it affects them a lot more, and we have an ocean in between. and we're -- we've spent $200 billion more on

ukraine than nato has spent. they've got to equalize. >> did you talk to president xi -- did you talk to xi about the ukraine war? >> yep. >> china and brazil together has a proposal to bring russia and ukraine to talk. >> that's good. that's fine. i'm ready. >> when are you going to talk with brazil -- >> how did brazil get involved? this is a new one. >> when are you going to talk to -- >> are you from brazil? >> when are you going to talk with the brazilian president? how do you see your relationship with latin america in brazil? >> great, should be great. they need us much more than we need them. we don't need them. they need us. everybody needs us. >> mr. president -- not receive additional china tariffs necessarily depending on how costs go with president xi. is that correct? >> define that.

>> potentially 10% tariff on china -- >> because of fentanyl. >> right. >> that's only because of fentanyl. there are other things too. and a very great thing is the panama canal. china controls the panama canal. what's that all about? they're not supposed to be -- when jimmy carter gave it, which was a terrible mistake, a terrible mistake, he didn't do it -- he didn't give it to china. he gave it to panama. and china controls the panama canal. we're not going to allow that to happen. >> are they still on the table or -- >> no. we're not going to allow that to happen. >> thank you, sir. >> what do you expect -- spend the least amount of money, like spain, france, below the 5% -- >> spain is very low. and yet are they a brics nation? >> what? >> they're a brics nation, spain. you know what a brics nation is? well, you'll figure it out. but if the brics nations want to do that, that's okay.

but we're going to put at least a 100% tariff on the business they do with the united states. you know what the brics is, right? you guys know. you know what i'm saying, right? you know what i'm saying. >> sir, this is -- >> so, it's not even a threat. in fact, since i made that statement, biden said, well, they have us over a barrel. i said, no, we have them over a barrel. and there's no way they're going to be able to do that. >> this is an executive order relating to -- >> -- those countries like spain? >> as a brics nation, yes. you'll have 100% tariff if they so much as even think about doing what they thought. >> can you spend -- >> which -- and therefore they'll give it up immediately. so will china give it up. >> sir, this is about reforming the system of hiring in the federal government to ensure that merit is the star of hiring decisions. >> oh, as for the supreme court. >> yes, sir. >> this is a big deal, merit. our country is going to be based

on merit again. can you -- can you believe it? >> mr. president, you said you would end the russia/ukraine war on your first day in office. where do things stand right now? >> well, this is only half a day. i have another half a day left. i want to get it done. >> this is an order creating and implementing the department of governmental efficiency. >> okay. that's a big one. >> is elon musk going to get a lean on this? >> no. he's getting an office for about 20 people that we're hiring to make sure that these get implemented. we have a problem in this country. sign an executive order, doesn't get done for six months. as an example, when we allow the j6 hostages to go out, it might not be approved. and under the old days, by -- for two weeks, three weeks, six months. you know, they had a good ruling for the supreme court, and it's like nothing happened. that ruling was six months ago. you know that.

and it was like they didn't have a ruling. they've been treated very unfair. the judges have been absolutely brutal. the prosecutors have been brutal. nobody's ever treated people in this country like that. >> mr. president, are you commuting the sentences of anyone who assaulted a police officer on january 6th? >> well, we're looking at two police officers, actually, that -- washington police officer -- who went after an illegal and things happened and they ended up putting them in jail. they got five- year jail sentences. you know the case. and we're looking at that in order to give them a -- we've got to give them a break. >> but is the clemency in actions today -- >> well, it would be a pardon. that would be a pardon. the one i'm talking about would be a pardon. >> should there be punishment for people who assaulted law enforcement officers that day? >> i will say this. they've been in jail for a long time already. i see murderers in this country get two years, one year, maybe no time.

so, they've already been in jail for a long time. these people have been destroyed. what they've done to these people is outrageous. there's rarely been anything like it in history in the history of our country. and even people who were aggressive -- and in many cases i think they were outside agitators. what do i know, right? they were outside agitators. and obviously the fbi was involved because ray mitted the fbi was involved. didn't he say 23 people indirectly or directly were involved, 26? that's a lot of people. no, we have -- we've got to take care -- these people have been treated so badly. it's never happened before. what happened in seattle when they took over a big portion of the city?

what happened in portland where they burned down the city every day and people died? nothing happened to anybody. but they go after these people violently -- they're still going after -- brand- new people, they found somebody else with a picture. there's never been anything like this. and it's almost 100% -- think of this. almost 100% of the people are convicted. 100%. it's washington, d.c. people go into a trial and say, i have a wonderful lawyer and i didn't do anything wrong. they end up shackles almost immediately, in jail. no, we're not going to let it happen. >> is there any other option that would satisfy you? >> about what? >> greenland. >> finland? >> greenland. >> oh, greenland. greenland is a wonderful place. we need it for international security. and i'm sure that denmark will come along.

i think it's costing a lot of money to maintain it, to keep it. the people of greenland are not happy with denmark, as you know. i think they're happy with us. we had representatives -- my son and representatives went up there two weeks ago. and they like us. so, we'll see. greenland is necessary -- not for us. it's necessary for international security. russia boats all over the place, china boats all over the place, warships. and they can't maintain it. >> who? >> -- president putin, sir? >> i'll be meeting with president putin. >> when? >> i don't know. i can't speak -- >> when is the first trip -- sir? >> so, the first foreign trip typically has been with uk. but we did it -- i did it with saudi arabia last time because they agreed to buy $450 billion worth of our product. i said, i'll do it, but you

have to buy american product. and they agreed to do that. they bought 450 billion. it was the least reported story i've ever been involved in. >> and now -- where do you plan to go now? >> well, i don't know. if saudi arabia wanted to buy another 450 or 500 -- we'll up it for all the inflation. >> mr. president, you said you're going to end the war first day. how do you plan to end the ukrainian war? >> well, we're trying to get it done as quickly as possible. it should have never started. you know, the war with ukraine and russia should have never started. it would have never started if i were president. >> will you push israel and saudi arabia to normalize relations? >> i don't think i have to push them. i think it's going to happen. maybe not quite yet. but it'll end up being the -- in the accords, the abraham accords. >> president trump -- >> i think saudi arabia will end up being in the abraham accords. >> this year? >> could be, but, you know, soon. not in a very long way -- ooh. look at that. it says tiktok.