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>> his first full day in office, again after an inauguration day packed with executive orders, president donald trump is not slowing down how he is looking to put his agenda into action in short order, and his cabinet is coming into focus this hour. we could hear from the first official member of his cabinet, secretary of state marco rubio, a critical post with decisions to be made about conflicts from gaza to ukraine, and a controversial move that could have dire repercussions for global health. >> trump pulls the u.s. out of the world health organization again. we'll look at how that could impact us all. we're following these major developing stories and many more, all coming in right here to cnn news central. >> thank you so much for joining us this afternoon. >> i'm boris sanchez alongside kayla tausche. >> kayla, great to have you. >> thank you for having me. >> it's going to be a fun afternoon.
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>> it will be. >> it's going to be a busy afternoon as well here in washington as president donald trump kicks off his first full day in office. >> next hour, the new president will meet with house speaker mike johnson and senate leader john thune at the white house as they discuss next steps of his sweeping agenda. >> it comes after trump signed a flurry of executive orders on inauguration day, including pardons for roughly 1500 january 6th. >> rioters, some who violently assaulted police officers. he also gave commutations for members of far right extremist groups, some of whom were convicted of seditious conspiracy. trump also signing a slew of actions on immigration, effectively shutting down the southern border to asylum seekers and also bringing major changes to birthright citizenship. cnn chief national affairs correspondent jeff zeleny joins us now. jeff, what are we expecting this afternoon from the president as he settles into his first full day in office? >> day two maybe more interesting and difficult and really setting the road toward governing than day one. and he is going to have the first meeting with republican
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leadership. yesterday was a day of pomp and circumstance. he was around the house speaker and the senate majority leader all day long, but they really did not discuss. we're told the actual legacy issues here that the president is trying to achieve. and that, of course, is his big legislative package. and the question is, is it going to be one big bill, separate bills? of course, he wants to extend his tax cuts from his first administration. a lot of the immigration work he's talking about requires legislation. so it's more than just executive orders. so last night he flexed the muscle of the presidency, the power of the presidency. you could see the look on his eye when he walked into the oval office again. but it's the actual bills he will sign, if any, that actually will determine his success in the level of it, of his presidency. >> there's already some disagreement. i mean, he's called for this one big, beautiful bill. senate majority leader john thune told an energy conference last week he
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still supports breaking it up into two, so we'll see if they have any agreements when they come out of today's meeting. >> without a doubt, and this is the beginning of many, there's no doubt. and my guess is that this is also sort of a metaphor for the forward looking aspect of his presidency versus the backward looking aspect. i mean, we're looking at the executive orders that he signed. a lot of them were sort of backward looking, score settling, reversing the the biden administration wants. that's what all presidents do. biden did it for trump. we all remember that. but what he can do going forward, and that's where this meeting starts today. so a lot of anticipation from republicans. it's his party and the burden is on them to try and govern. >> we will see that meeting happen next hour. jeff zeleny, thank you. you bet. meanwhile, the leaders of two extremist groups convicted for their roles in the january 6th capitol riot walked out of prison free men today, thanks to sweeping pardons and commutations by president trump. >> stewart rhodes, the leader of the oath keepers, was released from a maryland prison where he was serving an 18 year sentence for seditious conspiracy and other felony
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charges. >> you can see the video here. and enrique tarrio, the former proud boys chairman who is serving a 22 year sentence, was set free from prison in louisiana. >> they are just two of the more than 1500 people charged in the capitol attack who have now been granted clemency by trump. more than 140 police officers were injured during the seven hour siege. cnn's katelyn polantz joins us from the dc jail, where the first two prisoners were released overnight. caitlin, what's the situation there now and how will this play out in the coming hours and days? >> well, kayla and boris, this group behind me, these are supporters of the january 6th rioters and they are here waiting in anticipation for the release of more of the people who are detained in this jail. now, you mentioned stewart rhodes, the leader of the oath keepers, released from a federal prison in maryland. that's because he was already sentenced and he was already doing his time. he had been sentenced to 18 years in prison, and he is now having his sentence commuted. so he is
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being released. others, like enrique tarrio, the leader of the proud boys, he was fully pardoned. he had been serving a 22 year sentence in a federal prison. but here at the jail, it's a little bit different. the people here are not, for the most part, sentenced already. many of them are awaiting or were awaiting more proceedings in the courthouse, which is not too far away from here. or they were awaiting their sentencing or being awaiting being transferred out. and so the collection of people here that are being released, they're going to be received by people in this city that have been keeping vigil as supporters for them for several months now. i've heard so far that there is a member of congress here, a republican from arizona, here with this crowd, this group behind me, they've been singing god bless america in their circle together. there haven't been others that we have seen in mass coming out of the jail so far this morning, but it is expected that people will be released as the system
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processes them. so trump pardons more than a thousand people. he commuted the sentences of people already in prisons who were convicted of seditious conspiracy. 14 people, including stewart rhodes. and then there are other people that the justice department is working furiously right now to tell the federal court in dc dismiss their cases. i was just over there a few moments ago and ran into the judge who presided over the oath keepers case and asked him if he had a comment. he said, no, not at all. when he speaks, he speaks from the bench. and these judges did sentence many of these. january 6th rioters quite harshly, given the crimes against the united states that they were convicted by juries, by judges for things like violence against the police, as well as seditious conspiracy that donald trump is now pardoning them for. back to you. >> katelyn polantz in dc. caitlin. thank you. let's bring in andrew mccabe, former deputy director of the fbi and a cnn law enforcement analyst. andrew, some members of the president's own party have expressed some unease about
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this action. senator james lankford said that anyone who attacks a police officer should have to pay a price for that. north carolina republican thom tillis said that trump's blanket pardons raise a legitimate safety concern on capitol hill. what concerns do you have? >> well, i think those concerns that you mentioned are i share those, um, you know, i think at its. foundation, this action sends some really very troubling messages. >> i mean, predominantly, it sends a very clear message to anyone in this country who is inclined to use violence for political purposes, that if they do so in a way that they believe is consistent with what president trump wants or the things that he believes, that they will not be held responsible. >> and that is a very dangerous thing to send out a message to send out to the community of extremists in this country who are inclined to resort to violence, to resolve political, political grievances. i think,
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you know, on a on a smaller scale, i think it sends a very, very loud message to militia groups and extremist groups. when you have enrique tarrio and stewart rhodes walking out of prison today, this is an affirmation or it's a it is a, um, you know, it's a recognition that maybe they were right all along, that they're no longer going to be held responsible, that the president of the united states believes they were hostages, unfairly convicted. we, of course, know that none of that is true, right? we know what happened on january 6th. we all saw it. it's been preserved. for the record, these people were convicted by a jury of their peers, not by some nameless bureaucrats in government. but nevertheless, i think i think it's a very, very challenging message that this sends out to some small parts of our community. >> so if there is a member of the proud boys or the oath keepers that is watching this go down. i mean, do you believe that they're emboldened? not
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only the defendants who were pardoned here, but others who were perhaps not charged and not convicted. do you see more political violence or intimidation happening? and if you're the fbi, what is their role now to monitor all of that activity? >> well, they're absolutely they're absolutely emboldened. and we know this because some of them were marching in dc last night saying, you know, they're taking back the streets. and they did nothing wrong. so that's exactly what i'm talking about here. that's the terrible message that we're sending to those communities. and they're basically free to think. now, we were right. it's okay to resolve our political grievances with violence. and of course, that's a terribly dangerous message to send in this community. if you're a member of the fbi, first and foremost, you're trying to pick yourself up and dust yourself off today and put your head around the idea that four years working on the largest investigation in the fbi's history has just been obliterated with the stroke of a pen that over a thousand
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people. right. 15, 1600 people have been convicted as a part of the holding folks accountable for attacking the capitol. all of that work and the time spent doing it is essentially for nothing. and now they have to start thinking about the next threat, because that's what the fbi does. they're constantly thinking over the horizon, strategically trying to understand where does the next threat come from. but they have to think differently about how groups, particular groups on the political spectrum, who align themselves with the president, do they get treated differently now as we go forward? i think that's a legitimate question for folks in the fbi to be really mulling over today. >> on that point, andy, this was the largest criminal probe in u.s. history. and it's not easy. it's not a small task to prove seditious conspiracy beyond a reasonable doubt. >> so i wonder if you think that this might discourage future prosecutions of folks who are seeking to use violence to
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political means. >> i don't think it will. i don't think it will or should discourage prosecutors from bringing hard cases like seditious conspiracy. these were not easy things to do, not easy things to prove. but yet they were able to do it because of the exquisite and uncontroverted evidence they had in their in their hands. and they should go forward with cases like this. anytime they have that sort of evidence, what's going to undermine them is the thought that maybe these cases can't be brought against people who align themselves with donald trump's political agenda. that is a very different calculation. not one to my experience that's ever happened in this country before. this idea that some people will be given a pass because of their political beliefs, not because of the sufficiency of the evidence. you have to bring that to bring that that prosecution. so yeah, very challenging day at doj and the fbi. >> andrew mccabe, appreciate
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you sharing your perspective. thanks for joining us thanks. >> right now cities across the u.s. are bracing for a flood of immigration crackdowns, including the possibility of mass deportations. >> here with us now is cnn's priscilla alvarez, along with cnn's valeria leon, who is live near the border in ciudad juarez, mexico. priscilla, first to you just moments ago, cnn interviewed trump's border czar, tom homan. he told cnn that targeted enforcement operations are beginning today. what do they look like? >> well, so far they look like what we might expect and what may have happened last week with some differences. and i'll explain those. so first of all, these targeted enforcement operations that tom homan was referring to is going after public safety and national security threats. well, there was similar guidance under the biden administration. but the difference now is that by eliminating those priorities, which is what president trump did yesterday in an executive order, it takes out some of the discretion. so it gives them more authority to go after who they say they are targeting.
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the other difference that tom described is that if they go after a criminal and they arrest that criminal, but they are surrounded with someone else who is undocumented or more than one person, they too can be swept up. take a listen. >> when we find him, he may be with others. others that don't have a criminal conviction but are in the country illegally. they will be arrested too, because we're not going to start. and this is a difference between the last administration and this administration. ice is going to enforce the immigration law. there's nothing in the in the immigration and nationality act says you have to be convicted of a serious crime in order to be removed from this country. so there's going to be more collateral arrests in sanctuary cities because they forced us to go into community and find and find the guy we're looking for. >> now, that term collateral arrest was also used during the obama administration, when tom homan was at immigration and customs enforcement. so we have seen something like this before. but there are two unanswered questions, which is how exactly do these look? how big are they, these sweeps that they have been talking about
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beyond their targeted enforcement operations? and where there are democratic led cities who are concerned because they have been called out by president trump and tom homan, the denver mayor is among them. he was telling me that they've been practicing with tabletop exercises to try to game out how to respond to these operations. the second question to you is, where is the money? where are they going to get the resources to do these big sweeps? because right now ice is underfunded. it has been underfunded. so one of the big questions for them moving forward is how exactly, exactly can they bolster their resources to try to come through on this mass deportation pledge? >> we'll imagine that comes up with trump as he meets with republican lawmakers on capitol hill today. priscilla alvarez, thank you so much. >> we want to get you a view from the border. now with valeria leone. >> valeria, how are folks there reacting? >> people who have been trying to enter the country, the united states, i should say. >> are they still trying to find a way in?
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>> well, with a lot of frustration right now, i'm standing at a local office, mexican office where the migrants with canceled cbp one appointments are were brought by the mexican authorities. and this after showing up at the international port and this border city of ciudad juarez. they were brought here. and in this moment they are receiving some food. hot, hot soup, some candies, tuna. and also they are receiving information on the. available shelters that they are that are in this and in this border town of ciudad juarez, where they can stay. many migrants spirits were crushed after they discovered that the cbp one application was canceled, and with that, they have been left without the the electronic resource to seek asylum in the u.s. now, the dreams of thousands of migrants are stuck on the us-mexico border. and this morning,
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mexican president claudia said that this situation is not that different from years before. this is what the president said this morning. grito de zona de emergencia de la frontera sur. >> the decree on the southern border emergency zone that he signed yesterday is very similar. it's practically the same to the decree that he signed during his first term in 2019. this is the declaration of a national emergency with respect to the southern border of the united states. on february 20th, 2019. if you compare the two decrees, there are differences, but it is very similar. >> as part of the strategy of welcoming migrants deported mexicans, the federal government has set up 25 temporary shelters along the border for them, but also border towns are working round
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the clock and hoping that their infrastructure can accommodate the thousands of migrants that would arrive here on the mexico u.s. border. if trump carries out, trump carries out his plans for mass deportations back to you. >> well, lydia leon from ciudad juarez in mexico, thank you so much for that update. >> happening now. once a republican rival, now the nation's top diplomat, newly sworn in secretary of state marco rubio just spoke from the state department. we're following the latest on this critical role. >> plus, snow falling on bourbon street, a once in a generation storm across the south parts of texas and louisiana under their first ever blizzard warnings. details ahead on cnn news central it's the news. >> welcome back. >> but it's also kind of not the news. >> we don't fact check it. we don't care, man, once all the information on this show so terrible. >> have i got news for you
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collins. >> tonight at nine. >> the nation's first latino secretary of state, marco rubio, just finished speaking moments ago to the staffers he'll now lead. >> rubio is visiting foggy bottom today after being sworn in this morning. he's president trump's first cabinet pick to make it through the senate confirmation process with a vote of 99 to 0, the senate confirmed the former florida senator last night in a nearly unanimous vote. >> cnn chief national security correspondent alex marquardt joins us. >> alex, what did secretary rubio have to say? well, this is a bit of a tradition. >> a couple days ago, we saw secretary blinken leaving amid applause. and today we saw secretary rubio coming in to great applause. the staff at the state department crowds into that big lobby on on c street. >> and we heard both a lighthearted but also, at times, serious speech from secretary rubio. he was very flattering of the diplomatic corps that was out in front of him. he talked about the need
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to be bolder and faster. he said that he wants the state department to be really at the center of these foreign policy discussions, saying that there have been times when the state department has often been relegated to a secondary position in comparison to other agencies that are faster and bolder. >> he says he wants the smartest ideas that president trump can implement. >> here's a little bit of what he had to say to the state department staff. >> there. >> this is an extraordinary honor and a privilege to serve in this role, to be here, frankly, to oversee the greatest, the most effective, the most talented, the most experienced diplomatic corps in the history of the world resides in this building. >> in our republic. >> the voters decide the course of our nation, both domestically and abroad. >> and they have elected donald j. >> trump as our president when it comes to foreign policy on a very clear mission. and that mission is to ensure that our foreign policy is centered on one thing, and that is the
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advancement of our national interest. >> and the way that secretary rubio has been defining the advancement of the national interest is through what he calls three main questions. >> does it make the u.s. stronger? >> does it make america safer, and does it make us more prosperous? now, guys, he was speaking to a fairly jittery crowd there, uncertain of what is to come. he did say that there were changes afoot. he said they would not be punitive or spiteful or damaging. >> but i have to say, our colleague jenny handler has reported from the state department that more than a dozen top level senior career diplomats have been asked to step down. she spoke with a a senior veteran former diplomat who was worried that this could be the beginning of a purge. >> but secretary rubio, making no apologies for it, for it saying that the state department has to change to address the issues that are coming down the road in the future. >> alex marquardt, thank you so much for that update from the state department. >> appreciate it. still ahead, for the first time ever, parts of louisiana are facing a blizzard warning. these are
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storm could drop record snow from texas all the way to the carolinas. about 40 million americans are under winter weather alerts, and areas stretching from houston into southern louisiana has already seen up to two inches of snow, and more is on the way. >> our senior national correspondent, ed lavandera, is watching the snowfall in houston, which got its first ever blizzard warning, and also blizzard warning issued for portions of coastal texas. ed, how are you holding up there? >> well, for a region of the country that is more used to getting flooding and hurricane warnings and that sort of thing, this is a very different change of pace. >> much, much of the heavy snow that we have seen falling overnight and into the morning hours has kind of dissipated, and that is left behind. this mess on the roadways. now, the good news is, is that it's rather slushy at this point. so a lot of people are kind of out and about, uh, at least enjoying the snow around the city here. but the problem is, is that freezing temperatures
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are expected to hit overnight as well. so all of this slush that you see on the roadways is probably going to turn to ice in many places around southeast texas. and that is why officials here are really urging people to continue staying off the roadways and to plan to be off the roadways at least through tomorrow. temperatures about late morning expected to get above freezing again. so it will take some time for all of this to to to melt off. but you know, this is like i mentioned, just not a region of the country that's expected to deal with this kind of thing. in fact, the state of texas had to bring in snow plows into the area because it's not something that is just kept here around the around the year to help combat the street conditions here in southeast texas. so they are battling all of that. schools are closed through tomorrow in most places. the airports are closed throughout the day today. so really just everything kind of frozen in place. and most people, as i've driven around the city here
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this morning, kind of just enjoying the rare snowfall, actual real snowfall that you can make snow, snowmen and go sledding in. so something for many people here in texas to enjoy in this very rare, rare occasion. back to you guys. and i would really enjoy it if you got closer to the sidewalk, man. >> especially those slippery conditions. we want to see you safe and warm. ed lavandera live in houston. thank you so much, my friend. let's get to cnn meteorologist chad myers, who is tracking the storm from the cnn weather center. chad, this rare storm obviously could impact cities that don't often get this kind of weather. >> and folks might be unprepared. >> yeah, and i was just looking at those shots right next to ed from new orleans and how much snow there actually is on the ground already. the biggest number from december of 1963 was 2.7in. your forecast is for significantly more than that, probably double probably somewhere around six inches before it finally stops. so yes, there have been numbers that are higher than that. even lafayette had eight inches of
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snow already. there will be some slick spots around atlanta, but really across the south from new orleans, through mobile, on upward toward charleston. savannah. that's where the snow is going to make the biggest impact. already, thousands of flights aren't going to make it to where they thought they were going to make it today. here's what we look like 1:00 but then by 4:00, it's right up along the i-95. if you're on the i-95 in florida, i think you're going to make it to new york tonight. you're probably not. we're probably going to be shutting these places down. some of these roads are not going to get cleared enough, especially those elevated roadways. part of the problem with i-10 is that really from almost mobile, almost all the way across louisiana, most of that highway, i-10, is an elevated highway. and so they never had a chance of keeping that clean. >> you don't have it when it's cold underneath and it's cold on top. obviously, those roadways really, really go quickly. but look at the wind chill in chicago right now. it's 23 degrees below zero to your skin and your pets skin as well. 75% of the country, 250
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million people still seeing below freezing temperatures. >> chad, let's talk about los angeles as well, because strong santa ana winds are also blowing across parts of southern california. what are the red flag alerts saying and what sort of conditions are firefighters confronting there? and could there be rain on the way? >> there is rain on the way, but really we're i know we're talking about los angeles, but riverside county and also san diego county, you're in it today too. this is an extreme event for you haven't had any real significant fires down in the san diego area. but if you are to the east of san diego, where that wind is going to go over those mountains, this is the event we're going to have tonight. as soon as the sun sets, all of that air is going to try to fall to the ground that's rising now in the desert. that's how it happens. that's how santa ana works. but we've had all of these problems up to the north here, up to san gabriels and all that. but look down here to the pink. we haven't had that pink just to the east there of san diego. we need to be very careful with sparks. with
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flames. if you smell smoke, you need to figure out where that smoke is coming from. and if that fire is coming toward you. dangerous day there for san diego county as well. we have to keep them involved with this one. >> an important warning, chad. chad myers, thank you. we appreciate it. still ahead on cnn news central, president trump says he thinks he'll apply new tariffs on canada and mexico on february 1st. up next, we'll speak with a democratic lawmaker who believes the tariffs could have negative impacts on the auto industry in her state of michigan. >> kobe believed in himself at the youngest possible age. >> it's one of the most remarkable stories in sports history. >> i don't want to be remembered as just a basketball player. >> kobe premieres saturday at nine on cnn. >> you founded your kayak company because you love the ocean, not spreadsheets. >> you need to hire. >> i need indeed. indeed you do. >> our matching platform lets you spend less time searching and more time connecting with candidates.
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trading modestly higher as investors remain optimistic that his agenda will boost corporate profits, though uncertainty over tariffs could change that dynamic on wall street and across the world. after he did not follow through on his vow to immediately impose sweeping tariffs on countries, rather on imports from all countries, trump floated the idea of universal tariffs yesterday and delayed imposing that 25% tariff on imports from mexico and canada. he promised on day one until february 1st. the president was also reluctant to give specifics on how he'd install his proposed 60% levy on goods from china. let's discuss with democratic congresswoman debbie dingell of michigan. congresswoman, thank you so much for being with us. if trump follows through on that threat regarding mexico and canada in ten days or so, what do you think the immediate impact is going to be? >> well, you know, first of all, i want to say this to you. >> i am not someone that is automatically against tariffs. >> and i think tariffs are a tool in the toolbox that we
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need to be using to make sure we're playing on a level playing field. but i also have quietly expressed to some people that nafta, north america free trade agreement i think was one of the worst trade policies we've ever had. and i don't quite frankly think we should be treating mexico and canada alike anymore. i think that when our trade with canada, we're dealing with a country that has labor agreements. they have environmental, they have quality agreements. and we renegotiated nafta. we have what we call the usmca, but we're not i think we still need to be looking at at tweaking that agreement. i don't think china should be allowed to build plants in mexico and then be able to sell them in this country and market them as north american vehicles. they're not. so i want to work with this administration. i'm probably one of the more pro tariff people that there are in this congress, but there are tools in the toolbox. i don't believe in them straight across the
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board. and i think we have to start to look at mexico and canada as different trading partners. >> i wonder, congresswoman, as you noted, you said you would work with trump on issues that affect your district. obviously, a hub of auto manufacturing. you noted china building auto manufacturing plants in mexico. notably, the u.s. is one of the top importers of car parts in the world. so how do you think slapping tariffs on china and mexico might impact the auto industry and the cost of those products coming in here for u.s. consumers? >> look, here's a fact. we need to bring our supply chain back home to america. we did not know. i don't think americans understood what we had done with our supply chain until covid, and the fact that we couldn't even buy masks or gloves or gowns in this country. so i want to reduce the costs. but i also don't want china subsidizing their products, which is what they're
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doing. they are significantly subsidizing the products they're selling in this country. they want to destroy our market and then raise prices. i want to protect american jobs. i want to bring those american jobs back home. i want to bring our supply chains back home. and i will work with this administration on doing that. >> you did say that you want to reduce prices, but as you know, often tariffs, the cost of tariffs get passed on to consumers. so i wonder how you balance those two ideas. >> so i think tariffs are a tool in the toolbox. and i do not believe that many people understand what our trading partners are doing. that china is significantly subsidizing the products that are being made in china. the chinese communist government is investing in those companies. we want to protect our domestic auto industry. we don't want the consumers paying more. and that's why we need smart trade policy. tariffs are a tool in the toolbox, and we need to help educate the
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consumer about what china is doing. 80 to 90% of our medicines are made overseas. that's not only an economic security issue. that's a national security issue. and keeping manufacturing in this country producing steel and automobiles is a national security issue to. >> congresswoman, i also want to ask you about the january 6th pardons. senate majority leader john thune today said that now, former president biden, quote, opened the door on this when he was asked about trump's sweeping pardons of january 6th rioters. he accused biden, who preemptively pardoned some of his family members at the last minute yesterday of the, quote, most massive use of the pardon power that we've seen in history. do you think that biden, pardoning his family made it harder to criticize trump for his use of pardon powers? >> no, i'm going to be very clear. i was surprised by that. it was not discussed with me. i'm sure he has his reasons for pardoning his family and was worried about trump
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retribution. but i am very concerned. about four years ago, when we saw the people that i think some people thought they were voicing their opinion, but other people came here to do harm. they came to murder the vice president. they almost killed and did irreparably harm law enforcement officers. i. cannot justify in any way, shape or form someone attacking a law enforcement officer and giving them a pardon. and you know it is what it is. but i do not want to contribute to people thinking violence is okay in this country. that way, for us to express our disagreement is to go after people, to attack them the way that was done, and that i don't agree with either. i can disagree with people on both sides of the aisle. >> sure. and i wonder, congresswoman, what you say to republicans who have said that they are now looking forward on this issue, rather than looking back, who are dodging questions
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about these pardons? >> look, these pardons have been granted now, i hope they're going to join with me to fight and stand up against violence, against people attacking each other about what happened in this capitol four years ago. and i don't think that any of us can ever say to somebody that the kind of violence that wanting to threaten and kill people, the physical damage that was done to people or that was done to law enforcement, and quite frankly, i think we're finding it too easy in this country to go after people, to attack people. i want to dial down the tone. i want to believe in civility. and i hope my republican friends will help me do that. >> one last question, congresswoman. you were spotted speaking yesterday with mark zuckerberg, the ceo of meta, and tim cook, the ceo of apple. i wonder what that conversation was like. and i also wonder how you felt about having these titans of industry and also these billionaires in the inaugural
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party. given president biden's warning about the tech industrial complex and the threat of an oligarchy coming to the united states, so i know tim cook. >> i have a good cordial relationship with him. and we had a long talk. i'm not going to get into the details, but i hope that they're going to talk to democrats as well as republicans. and i think that's intent. i've met mark before. he's testified in front of the committee. we talked about a lot of things, and they were honest, candid conversations. and i'll leave it at that. >> congresswoman debbie dingell, we'll leave the conversation
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organization does a lot of things that we don't know about every day. there are little things on the day to day lives we lead that we don't appreciate, like the fact that the flu vaccine that we benefit from is informed by data from the w.h.o. and their leadership. and then on emergencies, americans want to know that we're safe from the next emergency. and the w.h.o. partners with its member nations to identify concerns. look, february 12th, 2020, the w.h.o. declared a public health emergency of international concern that let the world know something was coming and to prepare for covid. so i think that the effect that this has on americans is it gives us a little bit less of a of a safety net for knowing what's about to show up at our doorstep, if anything. >> well, president trump has been critical of the w.h.o. for its response to the covid 19 pandemic. beyond the early warning, and republicans have also been critical about some of the negotiations to prepare for the next pandemic, which some critics say, hey, that's already a century away. i'm curious how you, as a doctor, would grade the w.h.o.
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during the past pandemic. >> well, i have certainly never been shy to criticize specific things the w.h.o. has done on this network and others, but i've also found that their leadership will take expertise into account and and move forward. we can leverage our position as the united states as the biggest donor to the w.h.o. to help make things better. and i think that's important. look, the w.h.o. has had missteps, but there's also been places where we're really grateful when there's a marburg outbreak, which is related to ebola in rwanda. rwanda has great infrastructure to to do what it did, which was to control that outbreak this fall. but a lot of places are worn. torn nation might not have that. and the w.h.o. has the clout and they have the ability to control an outbreak. so i would say that the administration should use its leverage that we have to improve the w.h.o. and to protect americans better, which
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