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>> full speed ahead. on its first full day in office, president donald trump is moving ahead with his priorities. we'll look at what he's done and what could come next as he meets with the republican leaders of the house and senate just this hour. >> plus, bracing for mass deportations, major cities across the u.s. are preparing for ice sweeps, telling immigrants to have their emergency plans in place and employment documents on hand. and a final piece of joe biden's legacy as president a prisoner swap with the taliban freeing two americans held in afghanistan. we're following these major developing stories and many more, all coming in right here to cnn news central.
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>> happening right now. trump's first full day of his presidency is moving at lightning speed as he flexes his executive powers. any moment now, the new president will meet with house speaker mike johnson and senate leader john thune at the white house. >> they are set to discuss the next steps of trump's sweeping agenda after the president signed a stack of executive orders on everything from immigration enforcement to making major reforms to the federal government. and the white house also says the president will make, quote, a massive infrastructure announcement this afternoon. cnn's manu raju is live on capitol hill for us. but let's start with jeff zeleny live for us at the white house. jeff, walk us through what this meeting with republican leaders is all about. >> and so it begins, boris, this meeting is going to be the first of several with president trump and republican leaders in congress. of course, republicans control all the levers of the government here. but the question now, the challenge now is moving ahead to enact an agenda. exactly how that will be done. how many bills? one big, beautiful bill, as the president often talks
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about or separate bills as some members of congress, particularly on the senate side, would prefer? that, of course, is the open question. now, there's no doubt that this is the republican era. you know, the new day certainly has dawned here in washington. but the the majorities are so small, particularly in the house, far smaller than eight years ago. there was, if i recall, about a 17 seat house majority back in 2017. there is a one seat house majority now for republicans, however, it is much more of a trump aligned republican party. so basically, this is going to be the beginning of a discussion of how to work together and how to get the agenda accomplished, which is extending the the trump tax cuts. immigration, obviously so much more. we are going to see more from the president later this afternoon when he does make an infrastructure announcement, the white house says. but we did see some from him earlier today at a prayer service where also congressional leaders were on hand. and it was a prayer service that did not sit all
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that well with the president, largely because of an immigration message from the pastor at the washington national cathedral. here's what president trump had to say about that. >> ryan, what did you think of? what did you think of the service? >> what did you think? did you like it? did you find it exciting? not too exciting. was it? i didn't think it was a good service. no, thank you very much. >> thank you. press. thank you. press. >> they can do much better. >> so certainly did not seem to be in a good mood there. perhaps a reminder that after your inauguration day, when you control the ceremony, you control the programing. this is now a new reality for governing. of course, president trump knows this well. he's been through it all before, which, of course
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>> jeff felony. jeff. thank you. let's bring in manu roger on capitol hill now, mano trump's blanket pardons of roughly 50 1800 capitol rioters, drawing some strong reactions and some unease from republicans. >> what are you hearing? >> yeah, this went much further than a lot of republicans believed. in fact, a lot of them, as i asked them about trump, he had been saying this all along on the campaign trail, but a lot of them simply did not think that he would pardon people who had attacked capitol police who were convicted for assaulting police, saying that he would go for nonviolent offenders. well, that's not what donald trump did. in fact, he issued a blanket pardon, also commuted the sentence of leaders of the groups, the proud boys and the oath keepers, something that republicans clearly are uneasy about. i caught up a number of republicans. many of them sidestepped the questions. some of them objected to it, and others pointed the finger back
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at joe biden for issuing his own pardons for his family. >> what's your reaction to those six pardons? well, i've said what i said before, and that is we're not looking backwards. we're looking forward. >> i do not support the pardons. if they were given, if they were given to people who committed violent crimes. >> i've got concerns with any pardons for people who did harm to a police officer. full stop. and i've also got serious concerns with all of the pardons by president biden. >> i'm uncomfortable with all of it. that said, what i'm willing to look forward instead of backwards. and i do think that that's what this episode does. >> now, two senators who had stronger reactions on the gop side are ones who actually voted to convict donald trump in the aftermath of the january 6th, 2021, attack in his impeachment trial. those senators, bill cassidy of louisiana, who told me i am a big back, the blue guy. i think
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people who assault police officers, if they do the crime, they should do the time. and also, lisa murkowski, the alaska republican, told us that i do fear the message that this sent to these great men and women that stood by us, of course, referring to the same capitol police who defended this building, who defend this building every single day, but even those who were attacked by police officers, those ones seeing those people who attacked them, freed by donald trump carroll. >> manu raju on capitol hill. manu, thank you. >> so this is video of oath keepers leader stewart rhodes walking free in maryland earlier this morning. he was serving an 18 year sentence for seditious conspiracy and a number of other felony charges. >> and proud boys chairman enrique tarrio, who was also convicted of seditious conspiracy, was released today as well, according to his attorney. tarrio was serving a 22 year sentence at a prison in louisiana. joining us now to discuss is cnn's senior legal
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analyst, elie honig. and it's great to see you. we just heard the reactions of republicans on capitol hill from manu and this new rationale that perhaps because of president biden's own sweeping use of the pardon power, that there's some, um, equivocal nature here. do you see that? >> no. i mean, that's not how it works. president biden's pardons of his family members were disgraceful. i mean, they're historic acts of nepotism, of cronyism. he pardoned five of his own family members, but it doesn't follow that pardons of 1500 capitol rioters are therefore justified. i mean, it's the old two wrongs don't make a right. they're very different wrongs, different scope, different scale. but both of those sets of pardons we saw yesterday will be remembered poorly in history. without question. >> we saw katelyn polantz in the last hour outside of the jail here in dc, and there were folks lining up outside and and gathering to celebrate those that were being released. i do wonder what the process is like behind closed doors to actually get these folks that have been pardoned out. how long does it take? what is it like?
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>> it should be immediate. i mean, once a president issues a pardon, that is it. there's no court cases, there's no appeals, there's no second opinion. it is over. and what's unusual about these, beyond just the scope, is that a lot of times when we see pardons, it's someone who's already finished a sentence or in some cases, a person who has not yet been charged. here we have people who are in prison, about 400 people. i think they should all be released immediately or as soon as prisons can process the paperwork and get them their property back. that takes a few hours, but between last night and today, they should all be out. these these have very real practical consequences. >> and then there's an entirely different group of people that president trump commuted their sentences and has said that he is still considering possible pardons for them. what's the difference here? >> so there's two layers. the more dramatic action is a pardon. and that is what donald trump has given virtually everybody, except for the
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>> so it can happen that a person, let's say stewart rhodes, right? he got a commutation some point in the future that can be changed to a full pardon. >> and that would provide certain rights. he'd be able to vote and purchase weapons, et cetera.. i do wonder, ellie, what this means for federal investigators and federal prosecutors. this is one of the largest investigations in u.s. history. it was not light work. now it's essentially wiped off the books. >> it's a great question. it's got to be crushing for the people. the law enforcement agents, the prosecutors who worked on this. i mean, we're talking 1500 cases. untold numbers of personnel, hours, effort, time. look, i had one case not anywhere near this. pardon from me. and it kind of stung a little bit, but it was one case. you know, i moved on. i mean, people spent their lives doing this. that said,
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prosecutors, i think, do need to understand we we prosecutors are given god knows we're given plenty of power, as is the pardon power just simply does not reside with prosecutors. it resides with the chief executive. whether president of the united states, governor of a state. so i assure you it hurts. i assure you that it's painful for them. but it's the way our constitutional democracy is structured. >> ellie, appreciate the analysis. as always. thanks so much. and this just in to cnn after revoking the security clearance of dozens of former intelligence officials, including his former national security advisor, john bolton, we're now learning that president trump has pulled bolton's security detail as well. >> let's get straight to kaitlan collins. caitlin, what can you tell us? yeah, we saw a lot of first moves that trump was making as soon as he took office yesterday. with all of those executive orders and a flurry of activity. one thing that went quietly unnoticed is that he also terminated the secret service detail that is assigned to ambassador john bolton. of course, one of trump's national security advisers in his first term. this is a detail that was assigned to him when he was the
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national security adviser then. but when he left the trump white house in the fall of 2019, trump actually terminated his secret service protection then. and it was only later, after president biden took office, that later in 2021, he restored that security to john bolton, someone who required ongoing protection, including alongside other officials, because of ongoing iranian threats against him. and just to give you a sense of how serious these threats are, the justice department in the fall of 2022, actually charged an iranian official because he was in the united states and trying to reach out to people plotting to assassinate john bolton. they said, that's in a justice department release. and so if you've seen john bolton, he has a heavy security presence around him. it's not just 1 or 2 details. it's quite a heavy presence. now that he's been stripped of him, he was informed of this and delivered a statement to cnn about this, saying that he was disappointed with with this decision by president trump. i should note and in this statement that i'll read to you now that he provided to cnn, he said he's
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disappointed but not surprised that trump made this decision. he said, notwithstanding my criticisms of president biden's national security policies, he nonetheless made the decision to once again extend secret service protection to me in 2021. he noted that the justice department charged that iranian official with plotting to kill him, and he said that threat remains today, as is also demonstrated by the recent arrest of someone trying to arrange for president trump's own assassination. bolton said in a statement. to me, the american people can judge for themselves which president made the right call. obviously, this is a serious matter here, as they decided to revoke this protection for john bolton, he noted not only the threats against him, but ever since trump's first assassination and then the second assassination attempt, we also were reporting about unrelated and unconnected but ongoing threats by iran against his own life and those of the top advisors around him. and now trump has made the decision within hours of taking office, to terminate the secret service protection that was around
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ambassador john bolton. >> you have to wonder how officials in tehran might be reacting to this news. kaitlan collins, live from the white house, thank you so much for that news. so we're now learning about new action taken by the administration after the president's executive orders on immigration. white house supporters are tom homan says that targeted enforcement operations are underway in major cities across the u.s. and earlier on cnn, he warned that the crackdown would not be limited to migrants who have been convicted of crimes. listen. >> when we find him, he may be with others. others that don't have a criminal conviction but are in the country illegally. they will be arrested too, because we're not going to start. and this is a difference between the last administration and this administration. i.s.i.s. is going to enforce the immigration law. there's nothing in the ina. the immigration and nationality act says you got to be convicted of a serious crime in order to be removed from this country. so there's there's going to be more collateral arrests in sanctuary cities because because they forced us to go into community and find and find the guy we're looking for. >> we're joined now by brian hopkins. he's an alderman for
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chicago's second ward. brian, thank you so much for being with us this afternoon. have you been given any details of what this operation might look like in chicago? what potential raids might entail? and have you heard anything about operations beginning today in your area? >> no we haven't. you know, we've put out a warning to the migrant community and especially to our latino neighborhoods in chicago. there's a lot of nonprofit groups on the ground right now distributing material on how to protect your rights and things of that nature. so there's a little bit of fear as a result of that, and people are apprehensive because of it's just an unknown. but we have seen absolutely zero evidence that the federal government, under these new executive orders, are taking any immediate action. and frankly, i don't think they could if they wanted to. they don't have the capability. right now, we have a very small number of federal agents stationed in chicago, and if they want to round up hundreds of people, they have nowhere near the resources and the capability at hand right now to do that.
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that's not to say three months from now or six months from now, it won't happen. but there doesn't seem to be any immediate threat, unlike what mr. homan has been rattling his saber, including last month when he was here in chicago, he made a point of saying, you know, today there would be some massive roundup in chicago. it's not happening. and i don't believe it's going to happen, at least in the near term. >> it's fascinating to hear you say that, in part because it appeared to me that during his conversation with dana bash, homan was sensitive to the idea that there were going to be raids today. he kept describing them as targeted operations. i wonder what that might look like for your city, what that might actually mean? >> well, i can tell you one thing we know is there's approximately 300 undocumented individuals that have been identified as having been arrested for severe crimes, including murder, attempted murder, criminal sexual assault. 80 of them are currently being held in our detention facility. and we know
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this. so from my view, i'm chairman of the public safety committee here in chicago. and as much as i want to support, you know, the freedom to migrate and, you know, the tradition of america being a welcoming country as well as a sanctuary city here in chicago, the federal government wants to deport these dangerous criminals. i think we should cooperate with them as far as that's concerned. and i don't understand why that would be a controversial position. but when you see the kind of, uh, you know, extreme rhetoric coming out of this administration already, it makes it very hard for us to make the case that we should cooperate with them, because there just isn't any trust. there isn't any two way communication right now, both our governor and our mayor have really pushed back hard on some of the rhetoric coming from the president right now. we need cooperation on a matter like this. it's a question of public safety that goes beyond just trying to reform immigration policy. >> but to that point about cooperation, trump obviously has vowed to compel local law enforcement to aid in deportation efforts. and i want
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to let our viewers know that last week, you voted in favor of allowing city police officers to work with immigration agents. in some cases, that effort ultimately failed to move forward. i do wonder where you draw the distinction, what type of cases you think city police should be cooperating with federal agents with, and which ones they maybe shouldn't cooperate with? >> yeah, that's a great question. and i voted. i was one of 11 aldermen to vote yes to have that conversation. we had a relatively flawed ordinance that was presented to us that i thought was a good conversation starter. it was not ready to be passed into law, but we should have this conversation. where do you draw those lines? as i mentioned, we have 80 individuals right now that have been arrested for violent crimes. we have something here in illinois, in chicago called the safety act, which means that a judge cannot detain you and incarcerate you on a pretrial basis unless there's compelling circumstances that justify it. so these 80 individuals have
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pretty convincing evidence that they are, in fact, guilty of the crimes that they're accused of. and again, it's murder, attempted murder, criminal sexual assault. you know, these are undocumented people who have caused harm here in their limited time in america, and in chicago. and i just don't see why we would want to defend them as a society. in fact, you know, polling data suggests that the new york times just had a poll that said 87% of american voters believe that undocumented people who commit crimes while they're here should be deported. so that's something we have to deal with. i believe it's a factor in the fact that my party, which, you know, i'm a loyal democrat, it hurts me to see how poorly we did in the last election cycle. and i think part of it is we're we're out of step with mainstream views when it comes to public safety on things like criminality being caused by undocumented people. >> brian hopkins, we appreciate you sharing your point of view. thanks for joining us thank you. >> boris. >> ahead this hour, president trump giving tiktok more time but no extra
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>> china charges u.s. tariffs and we charge them very little. except for what i did. i put a lot of we took in hundreds of billions of dollars. but until i came along, china never paid $0.10 to this country. they ripped us off and they never paid anything. but like if we wanted to make a deal with tiktok and it was a good deal and china wouldn't approve it, then i think ultimately they'd approve it because we'd put tariffs on china, maybe. i'm not saying i would, but you certainly could do that. >> so that warning comes after the tiktok ceo publicly supported trump, thanking him specifically in a video over the weekend. he also attended monday's inauguration. he's sitting you see him sitting there next to tulsi gabbard, the president's pick for director of national intelligence. as you might imagine, china is not happy with the president's remarks and the sale of tiktok, insisting that tiktok's future should be decided by companies and in line with chinese law.
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cnn chief media analyst brian stelter joins us now. brian, did something change between trump and tiktok? >> well, now he has power and he's going to use it. we're looking at tiktok as a pawn here, as a chip on a giant game of poker. this is a dramatic negotiation between the u.s. and chinese leaders, and we now know this negotiation, at least involving tiktok. it's part of a much broader, you know, resetting of a relationship between the u.s. and china. but we now have another ticking clock, right? the clock was ticking down until this weekend. tick tock was briefly blacked out. now we know the new deadline is the first week of april, and so users might feel a little better having the app back temporarily. but if you look at your phone, look on the apple app store, for example, if you have an iphone, tiktok is still not been restored for new users. so people who already have the app, they can use it today. but apple clearly has concerns about this ban staying in place. and ultimately this is going to be between trump and his chinese counterpart. can the two of them work out a deal?
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>> and i've spoken to some investment bankers who would be advising some companies who are investors, who would be interested in the app. and they say that there is no seller. the app is not for sale even as of now. so we'll see how that progresses over the next 75 days. but brian trump is also downplaying the severity of the threat that he believes tiktok now poses. here's what he said last night. >> and remember, tiktok is largely about kids, young kids. if china is going to get information about young kids, i don't know. i think i think, to be honest with you, i think we have bigger problems than that. >> brian, wasn't that one of the goals of the ban in the first place? to protect users against having their data gathered by an adversary that could use it against them later? >> yes. the president is doing rewriting of history in the last 24 hours. we know he has about january 6th, but he's also rewriting history right here. when it comes to tiktok, his concerns about china's influence, they were not, you know, simply about kids using an app. and he just hadn't used it before. he didn't know what
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it was all about. trump's evolution on this began about a year ago. back then, politico reported it was a billionaire donor named jeff yass that had trump's ear influencing trump to start to be more supportive of tiktok. now we know. more recently, trump has seen his popularity on tiktok. he likes how popular he is on the app. that seems to have something to do with his flip flop, but the idea that this is just an app for kids and we shouldn't worry about the harms, uh, you know, in a day full of shocking comments, that was one of the most shocking things trump has said. >> and also, it should be stated congress passed a ban on tiktok that the supreme court of the united states then upheld. so he's sitting there as president, not signing it, not vetoing it. it's essentially just punting on it. i do want to ask you, brian, we pointed out a moment ago that tiktok ceo was one of several big tech executives at the inauguration. one thing that all of these folks have in common, not that they're executives, it's that they control the information that
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americans consume. should that be a concern? >> short answer yes. but the consolidation of power in the hands of a few big tech ceos didn't happen overnight, didn't just happen with trump. it's been an issue now for years. some people might be waking up to it now and getting more worried because trump is getting cozy with these ceos, or he seems to want them to bend the knee. but, you know, this is why biden's doj had wrapped up meta and google in antitrust court battles. we will see if trump lets those battles continue or if he tries to make them go away. you know, these concerns are real, but they're not new. what we need to watch for going forward is whether the algorithms are used in ways to downplay criticism of trump. that would be a dramatic change, a dramatic escalation if, for example, anti-trump groups are trying to organize protests on a site like facebook and they're not able to and not able to in the u.s., that would be a dramatic change. we're not seeing that happen today, but i know there are groups on the sidelines watching, waiting, wondering if these tech companies will feel they have to curry favor with trump in different ways. it's
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just a big question mark going forward. >> well, on that note, brian, i mean, you see all of these leaders who run these companies who were not just out of trump's favor four years ago, they had banned trump and his official accounts from their platforms four years ago. now, can they afford not to engage with trump? >> i'm so glad you reminded us of that. you know, it was it was twitter. it was facebook that had basically excommunicated former president trump after january 6th. but now this is a rational business choice that mark zuckerberg and others are making. they're sitting on really high hot stocks. they want to keep their valuations high. they're doing what they believe is the cost of doing business by showing up at the inauguration. but what else will trump demand of them? that's the question. going forward, tbd. >> brian stelter, thanks so much for the update. donald trump's effort to make government more efficient is hitting its first roadblock lawsuits. three of them and counting ahead. why the so-called doge is now being
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to get the entertainment you love to you faster and easier than ever. that's what i do. is that love island? >> com erin burnett out front tonight at seven on cnn. >> the trump administration's new department of government efficiency, or doge, is already facing legal challenges. a number of groups, including some that represent veterans and federal employees, have filed at least three separate lawsuits, and they all make a similar allegation that doge violates a federal act mandating transparency and ideological balance for any committee charged with advising a president or agencies. joining me now is the co-chair of the doge caucus, republican congressman pete sessions of texas, for that caucus. doge
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stands for delivering outstanding government efficiency. congressman, it's good to see you. i'd love to start with the president's executive order itself, which caused some head scratching when it said that the purpose of doge the agency is to upgrade government i.t. systems. does that change the mandate at all in your mind? no. >> i don't think it does. but it's certainly a basis for us to understand. >> that if we're going to have federal employees that need to access data, then they need to have the most reliable, the most cost effective, and the most important part of all interoperability among these databases that are huge. so i think it makes perfect sense to a person. i came after 16 years of at&t. we needed to make sure our employees had access to good technology and proper technology is also computers. >> your caucus has been meeting regularly to discuss what to cut and how.
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i'm curious if any specific ideas have gained steam and whether there are any sacred cows or non-negotiables for you. >> well, in fact, these are questions that we ask ourselves. where do we start? what's the most important, and how are we going to move together? doge here on the hill is a bipartisan opportunity that every single member of congress, including the house and the senate, has extended a chance for people to join in and to talk about government efficiency from our perspectives, the federal government has a lot of inefficiencies, by the way, not just that they operate, but too by the by the rules and regulations that they have that do not sustain programs and make it difficult for the government to actually achieve their job and to do it in a way that serves the american people. we believe that one of the most important things is
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for every government agency to have their employees report back to work, because we're going to be making determinations, as every administration should, about the right size. how many employees, the workload and the work that needs to be done as a result of people being home, not reporting to work every day. there are lots of government reports that say they're wholly efficient, but in fact they still have huge problems and government efficiency will address those. >> some of those changes have already been made by some of these executive orders, but i'm wondering when it comes to entitlement programs, if you see any changes to those as possible. and also curious about the coordination between what your caucus is doing and now what will appear to be a formal doge operation inside the federal government, not an outside advisory group? >> well, this is an interesting way to
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look at it. what we're doing is allowing every single member to look at their idea of agencies or processes that are not efficient. we had a work session last week with the united states senate. there are people in the senate that are responsible. they have held hearings just like we have. i am the subcommittee chairman for government operations, and we have for a long time known that there is $1.7 trillion worth of waste, fraud and abuse that happens every few years. when you combine that, it is an embarrassment to the taxpayer of this country and taking away from goods and services that could be given to people who deserve it most. of course, waste, fraud and abuse. the estimated fraud and
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abuse is something we've got to get after. >> the range of what this doge group will target has shifted a little bit from 2 trillion to 1 trillion. and then there was a wall street journal op ed that suggested perhaps only 500 billion. but i want to ask you, congressman, about elon musk. now, he will be the sole figurehead atop this group. he has a white house pass. he has an office near the president. and i'm curious if you have any concerns about his personal conflicts of interest, given all of the businesses that he runs? >> well, i have no doubt that elon musk is an expert among experts at understanding not just organizational efficiencies, but better ways in which services can be provided. he has invested billions of his own dollars and has millions of him, or tens of thousands of employees, and he has made his organization spectacular. we believe that the federal government has an opportunity to help themselves, and i think that i have very few qualms
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with him advising, whispering in the ear, perhaps, of the president, but helping us to sell the inefficiencies. he takes a huge viewpoint of making sure we are challenged, and i think that's good. >> well, hopefully you will come back as your work and their work continues. we appreciate your time today. congressman pete sessions, thank you. thank you. ahead on cnn news central, president trump is wielding his power in truly unprecedented ways. we'll look at the historic pace he is setting with his executive orders, and why they could even change how the white house operates. >> this is the carry on closet, the suitcase with the one of a kind closet system that keeps you organized anywhere. pack all you need for up to ten days and travel without ever unpacking. >> at university. >> of phoenix, we're earning career relevant skills with every 5 to 6 week course and
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expected to add to that number today. many of them target immigration. others roll back his predecessor's policies. let's get a closer look with cnn's tom foreman. he's tracking those that might be flying under the radar right now. tom, there is a big one impacting folks inside the white house. tell us about that. yeah, it has to do with. >> security clearances. >> basically what. >> they have. said is they want to give top secret, sensitive compartmented information security clearances to white house staff without background checks, typically conducted by the fbi, by the intelligence community. basically, what they've said is we think it takes too long to do it that way. we want to farm some of it out to private contractors. we just want to say we're giving it to some people. the president is in his right to do this, but there are a lot of questions about it. the fbi, for example, says background checks are designated to allow the government to assess whether a candidate is sufficiently trustworthy to be granted access to classified information. what does a check normally like? you're looking
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high and they have been high. they've been high and they've come down some. they're not the highest, but they're still fairly high. what made that happen? a combination of the pandemic and russia invading ukraine and russian oil being pulled back. but that's the idea behind this is he wants to open alaska wilderness to more oil and gas drilling. you keep hearing republicans say again and again, drill, baby drill, baby, drill. but people in the oil and gas industry have largely said, you know, we're the biggest producer in the world right now. and market forces will determine if we produce more. you can change the law. that's not going to make us drill, necessarily. >> we're already drilling a whole lot. yeah, yeah. >> and one of the other things that they've done, which is really it's just one of these things that i think for those who like it, they think it's great. for those who don't, it just makes them shake their head. they want to change the name of denali up in alaska, back to mount mckinley, named for president mckinley was assassinated in 1901. 25th president. i think they want to change it back to mount
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mckinley. a guy who never even went to alaska. it was named this because a prospector there for gold, you know, liked mckinley and thought mckinley would push the gold standard. that's how the name came. this is more in keeping with the long, long history of that area. and people who the people who live there before the u.s. had a claim there and, of course, wants to change the gulf of mexico to the gulf of america. kind of a difficult thing to do, because these are international waters. even if the u.s. does it, it doesn't mean the world or cartographers will go along. >> i wonder how we'll approach it here at cnn once they change. i have wondered with a global standard, with the u.s. standard, is it like metric? >> and if you choose one or metric that, does that somehow imply a political choice? yeah. and i've been in parts of the world where that's exactly what happens if you call the town this name. it means one thing. if you call it the other name, it means something else. and you're making a political choice just because you choose a name. >> these are the questions that keep tom foreman up. >> it does. it's been called this for 400 years. >> appreciate your reporting. thanks so much, tom. still to come, freedom for two americans
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specifically, i was also told the taliban, which has been pretty intransigent for the past two years as the biden administration has tried to get corbett, mcentee and other americans out, actually wanted to please and give the credit to the trump administration. so that's why i'm told that delay happened. you can see in that picture there on the right is roger carstens. that is biden's special envoy for hostage affairs. he does not have a role, at least not yet, in the trump administration. so he was technically already off the clock when this this trade went down. this was a long time in the making. the biden administration has been trying to get these two american men and at least two other american men out of taliban custody for some two years now. we don't know much about mcentee. this was not a name we were tracking ryan corbett. we we know his story quite well. he and his family, including three kids, they're actually living in afghanistan for more than a decade before the before afghanistan fell to the taliban
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back in 2021. he returned to afghanistan in 2022. that's when he was detained. so certainly the pressure of the trump administration coming in, and this was acknowledged by a senior biden administration official. i spoke with, added pressure to the taliban. of course, now the trump administration will pick up this effort to try to get at least these two others. george glassman and mahmoud habibi out. there could be other americans as well. of course, we have heard president trump speak often about his desire to to to get americans home. >> and he will have a new special envoy for hostage affairs who will be leading that charge as well. alex. thank you. alex marquardt making good on his promises. after a day where president trump pardoned over a thousand. january 6th rioters, what other parts of his agenda will he look to carry out? we'll discuss that after this quick break. >> i wish my tv provider.
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