scared of you and what you might do? >> you don't do dramatic and drastic things and scare them. the news has made bobby seem scary. no one's taking anything away from anyone. he's not coming for any one thing. he's coming for transparency. >> i don't understand what they're scared about. what is wrong with saying. we want to make sure that every single vaccine on the schedule is completely foolproof, that there's evidence that these are working, that these are necessary. >> we are the sickest country in the developed world. so the worst thing we could possibly do is more of the same. >> this movement is unstoppable. we have had this pent up frustration that we have not been heard from our government leaders. and for the first time, we are being amplified and it gives us an electrification that could not be measured. >> and it's important, you know, for me to note that this issue of child vaccine schedule and the safety and efficacy of vaccines comes up

repeatedly in this sphere, but the agencies that kennedy is slated to lead, if confirmed, the department of health and human services, the cdc, state unequivocally that they are safe and effective and scientifically proven to be better than the alternative. >> all right, nina, thank you very much. and thanks for joining us. the sauce starts now. >> straight from the source tonight in his first full day back on the job, president trump defended pardoning virtually every january 6th. rioter said he was open to elon musk buying tiktok and a whole lot more. senator bernie sanders is here and will join me live in moments with his thoughts. also, what are the officers who was violently attacked that day is here? he also happens to be an officer who just protected trump and his supporters at his inauguration. 24 hours ago. plus, i have new reporting this evening on trump's termination of secret service protection for his own former national security adviser, john bolton. bolton, the target of an iranian assassination plot. i'm kaitlan

collins, and this is the. source. good evening from washington, where president trump is just finishing up his first full day in office. i should note tonight also marks a new era for this show, given i'll also be covering the white house as cnn's chief white house correspondent. in addition to anchoring the source. that means that every night here at 9 p.m., i'll have new reporting on what's happening behind closed doors. the goal, of course, is to bring you the inner details on the workings of the trump administration that you won't get anywhere else. judging by the last 24 hours, it promises to be a very busy four years. and that's where we start this evening, because donald trump, perhaps faster and further than anyone before him, is wasting no time in flexing the enormous powers of the presidency, already pushing the limits to see just how far he can go to bulldoze anything or anyone in the way of his agenda. if trump round

one began with shock and awe, round two appears to be retribution and ruthless efficiency. in the last 24 hours, we have seen an avalanche of executive orders and actions on immigration, the economy and controlling the levers of justice. in america you would agree. >> that it's never acceptable to assault a police officer. >> sure, these people have already served a long period of time. these were people that actually love our country. so we thought a pardon would be appropriate. >> the leaders of the proud boys and the oath keepers were freed following their pardons yesterday. is there now a place for them in the political conversation? >> well, we have to see. >> are you open to elon buying tiktok? >> i would be if he wanted to buy it. >> why did he remove. >> john bolton's security clearance, sir? >> we're not going to have security on people for the rest of their lives. why should we? is he a stupid guy? but no, you can't have that for life as you heard there, there's already so much happening so fast, it could almost trigger a sensory overload, i get it.

>> it was like trying to drink out of a fire hose. the first four years. but i think it's important to be clear that what you're seeing play out is not just chaos. from our reporting, what we are witnessing is a full court press, an all encompassing strategy by the president and his inner circle that has been meticulously planned for months. and now they are trying to put it in place. my lead source tonight is the independent senator from vermont, senator bernie sanders. and it's great to have you here. senator sanders, you were there at the inauguration speech yesterday out of the first 24 hours of the trump presidency. has anything surprised you? >> no. >> i think. >> in terms of the speech, i suppose if you're a trump supporter, you thought it was good. if you're a trump opponent, as i am, you did not think it was good. but i think the main point that kind of you inferred to that a second ago, and we're going to see a whole lot of stuff every single day. you're going to see all kinds of stuff, but it is terribly important, in my view, for the american people to stay focused

on the most important issues facing our country. all right. for example, very few people deny deny that our health care system is broken. it is dysfunctional, and it is outrageously expensive. did the president, in his inaugural speech, say one word about the health care crisis in america today? we have a major housing crisis, not just 800,000 people who are homeless. millions of people are paying 5,060% limited income in housing, on housing, did the president say one word about the housing crisis? we have massive income and wealth inequality. the gap between the very rich and everybody else never been wider. but sitting behind the president, as you know, were the three wealthiest people in america work together over $1 trillion. did the president say one word about income and wealth inequality? obviously not. those are his supporters.

>> what was it like for you to see those people? mark zuckerberg, jeff bezos all sitting behind trump yesterday and not just behind him, but but sitting next to his cabinet? >> well, you know, caitlyn, as you may know, i have been talking about my fears as to how the united states is moving rapidly toward an oligarchic form of society. and anybody who was in the room or on tv. and so the president of the united states, surrounded by the three wealthiest people in this country, one of whom made hundreds of millions of dollars in campaign contributions to him. at the same time, when we have more concentration of ownership than we have ever had. the conclusion i hope that most people reach is that we are moving toward an oligarchy. we have got to fight back. we've got to protect our democracy. we need an economy that works for all, not just the people on top. >> what would you say to to trump supporters or people who saw elon musk and them sitting there and thought, that's cool. these are people who have done

a lot for the united states or an innovation and said, actually, it's not such a bad thing that people should be criticizing. what would you say to that? >> you know, we will see how it plays out. but i think, you know, trump campaigned for president, saying, i'm going to be a candidate of the working class of this country. right. well, we will see if he addresses the health care crisis. we will see if he, in fact, is prepared to take on big pharma and lower the cost of prescription drugs. and certainly on issues like raising the minimum wage to a living wage, he's not going to be anywhere near where we have to be in terms of housing is not going to do what has to be done. and the one thing he did say in terms of major issues facing our country is, in a sense, he talked about climate change. he said, drill, baby, drill. so at a time when we have had the ten warmest years on record, the last ten years when we have seen natural disasters in los angeles right now all over the world, what he says, hey, i'm going to make a

horrific situation even worse. drilling for more oil, more carbon emissions. so bottom line here is, i think as americans, we've got to appreciate what's going on in the country. we're moving toward oligarchy. 60% of americans live paycheck to paycheck. millions work for starvation wages. we need a government that works for all, not just for elon musk. we will see what happens. >> well, elon musk, he was not just there at the inauguration. and obviously he's playing a pretty big role in this administration. i saw him going into the west wing yesterday. he's getting office space on the white house grounds. you voted against that. that law forcing tiktok to sell from its parent company, bytedance. you didn't you didn't believe it was the right way to handle that. but when trump says he would be okay if elon musk tried to buy tiktok. >> well, i mean, this is what oligarchy is about. you have jeff bezos owns the washington post mr. musk already owns twitter. you have other billionaires owning the major media outlets

in this country, cnn, other companies. if you look at who owns them, you're looking at large wall street firms. so you already have a major serious problem in terms of ownership of the media. if musk ends up owning tiktok tiktok, it will only make a bad situation much worse. >> what did you and maybe you didn't notice this. we have a picture of it. but but there was at one point where shou chew, the ceo of tiktok, who has ingratiated himself with trump's circle, was seated next to tulsi gabbard, trump's pick to be the director of national intelligence, who might get confirmed by the board of you're in. we'll see. do you? i mean, what do you just to see them sitting together at an event like this? does that bother you? >> no. i mean, i don't know how they make their seating arrangements. i don't think that's all that important. what is important is that you have a small number of very wealthy people who own the media, who in recent months have kind of caved in to trump. you're having trump suing, uh,

various media outlets, and it's going to result, i think, in a fear of, uh, the media standing up to trump, worrying about being sued, worrying about other problems. but bottom line is that the first amendment is enormously important. we need media who are fearless in speaking out on the issues of the day, and you're not going to have that when you have a small number of very wealthy people controlling what we see, hear and read on. >> tulsi gabbard have you met with her as she's vying to get senate confirmation? not yet. do you know how you plan to vote on her? >> no. i look forward to sitting down and chatting with. >> her, but you could potentially see yourself voting for tulsi gabbard. >> i look forward to sitting down and chatting with her. >> i just was asking because you defended her before she introduced you. actually, when you had your when you were nominated at the convention, you have defended her. when some of your colleagues were called or not your colleagues, but some democrats were calling her a russian asset in years prior. do you think still that those those allegations are unfounded?

>> look, i think when she ended up supporting me back in 2016, she got a lot of heat for that um, i think her visit to syria to meet with assad, you know. well, donald trump did the right thing. every once in a while. he does. he met with the leader of north korea. the idea that you should not sit down with your adversaries, whether it is iran, whether it's china, whether it's north korea, whether it's syria, whatever it may be, i don't think that that's a valid criticism. >> the washington post had a report tonight on that, that even her staff then had questions about what it was that they talked about for so long. it was a meeting that went for an extended period of time. would you ask her about that? when you do meet with her about this job? >> we'll see. i mean, yeah, i would like to know what her views are on various issues. sure. >> okay. so keep us updated on that. but i do want to ask you about what we saw in the first 24 hours. you talked about focusing on what's important and what has impact. the january 6th pardons do have impact. we're going to talk to an officer who was who was

beaten that day. when you see that he pardons virtually everybody who is convicted or has a case. what does that say about the rule of law to you? >> well, you're right. >> it says a lot. it especially says a lot. given the fact that trump claims to be a great supporter of the police in america, great believer in law and order, he loves the cops. well, 140 police officers were injured. a few died because they defended members of congress and they defended democracy in america against an insurrection. these guys are heroes. and to tell the entire world that we're going to pardon people who attacked and hurt police officers is telling, i think, the world that violence is okay and it's okay to attack police officers when you have a mind to do so. i think that is a horrible message, and i strongly disagree with his pardoning of those insurrectionists.

>> one thing that he's been using tonight to defend it were president biden's preemptive pardons. and i know you had come out and said he should seriously consider them for the january 6th committee. he not only pardoned the committee and the officers who testified before them, he also pardoned his brothers and his sister and their spouses. >> caitlyn. i mean, in my view, you can argue whether biden did the right thing or the wrong thing. >> and what do you think? >> well, what i think is that he was worried that given all of trump's rhetoric, that trump was going to go after his family and close associates. all right, that's a concern. but don't equate the two. i don't know that anybody in trump's family tried to overthrow the united states government and attack police officers. what trump did is say to the world, pardon me, in the biden family, i'm sorry, what what trump is saying to the world is that it is okay for you to attack police officers when you have a mind to do that. and i think that is an outrageous message to send to

the world. >> and you think you can't equate them because they're pointing to biden pardoning them. >> that's what they're saying i do. i saw. >> that look. >> that's a good excuse, but nothing you could argue. did biden do the right thing? did he do the wrong thing? fine. it has nothing to do with what trump did today. >> on just what trump has done overall. one thing he did was pull the united states out of the he's seeking to pull the united states out of the world health organization. great. we all lived through a pandemic a few years ago. do you think that could backfire? >> well, if you believe in health, yeah, if you believe that it's important for the world to come together to address future pandemics. yeah. if you think it's important for scientists around the world to cooperate in figuring out how we create a more healthy planet, and if you want to protect the poorest people in the world. yeah, i think it's a major mistake. look, i think it's outrageous. and i think especially not only with pandemics, but with climate change. we've got to bring the

world together to fight our common enemies. i was chairman of the health committee. we had all the experts in front of us. when you ask them, do you think another pandemic is going to come? their answer is yes. are we prepared? no we're not. so the idea that you separate yourself from the rest of the world makes zero sense to me. >> and you had a lot of conversations about that. as the chairman of that committee. on just the next four years. overall, is there anywhere you think you could work with the trump administration? is it is it doge is it you know, some of these cabinet officials like tulsi gabbard, for example. >> i mean, we will see whether trump is going to keep any of the campaign promises he made to working people. you will recall, he said he wants to cap interest rates on credit cards at 10%. you know what? at a time when desperate people are paying 2,030% interest rates, i think that's a good idea. uh, musk said. there's a lot of waste in the defense department. musk is right. all right. trump has talked about cutting down on the cost of

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attacked cops that day. >> i am the friend of police. more than any president that's ever been in this office. >> president trump, 100 of the people that. >> you pardoned, though assaulted officers. >> so i want to ask you about the vice president, jd vance. he said, if this is a week ago, he said if you committed violence on january 6th, obviously you should not be pardoned. why is your vice president wrong? >> well, only for one reason. they served years in jail. they should not have served. excuse me. and they've served years in jail. and murderers don't even go to jail in this country. >> not clear what he's referencing there, but i should note that that day, of course, one of the most searing images, the most brutal assaults, was against officer daniel hodges. you can't forget the disturbing way he was attacked. and as he was being attacked, one rioter ripped off officer.

officer hodges gas mask. another hit him in the head with his own baton. one tried to gouge one of his eyes out. and it was patrick mccaughey that you can see here who pinned him in that capitol doorway and assaulted him with a police shield. a judge sentenced him to seven and a half years in prison for his role in that attack, but tonight he is free. his mom tells the connecticut insider he's on his way home. and officer daniel hodges joins me now, which i should note is happening in your personal capacity when you saw that trump pardoned all of these people, virtually everyone who is charged and convicted, even those who still have their cases ongoing, even those who pleaded guilty, just what went through your mind? >> i mean. >> it wasn't. >> a surprise. >> this is what trump. >> campaigned on. >> the die was cast for this on november 5th. right? so this is what the people voted for. and even though it wasn't a

surprise, it's hurt to see because these people were violent insurrectionists. they brutally attacked me and my colleagues. they wanted to stop the peaceful transfer of power. i don't see why so many of them would deserve a pardon. >> and you actually worked trump's inauguration yesterday, correct? i mean, you're still out there fulfilling your duties as law enforcement and protecting him and protecting the people who are there supporting him. what is that like for you? >> yeah. i mean, that's that's the thing about democracy, right? you can't just believe in it. when your guy wins. you got to believe in it when the other guy wins, too. and part of that, especially in my job, is being respectful and doing the best job you can, providing law enforcement services to the best of your ability to even to people who, you know, hate, hate me, even though none of them recognize me. but if i if i had told them, i'm confident they would have had a different

reaction to me. >> patrick mccaughey, the one who was released from prison, who attacked you specifically, was one of those in that that mob during that searing image. he's free now. i went back and looked at what the judge said to him when he was sentenced him, and he said that his actions on january 6th were some of the most egregious crimes that were committed that day, that he left you completely defenseless, defenseless, and he had to retreat. but you didn't retreat. you were there when he was sentenced. has he ever apologized to you personally? >> he was one of those in court who apologized during his sentencing. whether he is sincere or not, who knows? i guess we'll find out now, right? >> and he never reached out to you outside of court. or once he was in prison? >> no, no. >> the fraternal order of police put out a statement just a few moments ago saying that they have had long standing positive relations with president trump, but they said crimes against law enforcement are not just attacks on individual or public safety.

they're attacks on society and they undermine the rule of law. and they said when perpetrators of crimes, especially serious ones, are not held fully accountable, it sends a dangerous message that the consequences for attacking law enforcement are not severe, potentially emboldening others to commit commit similar acts of violence. are you worried that trump's pardon of people like patrick encourages them to to do this again? >> yeah, yeah. i mean, why wouldn't it, right. if people know that there are not going to be any consequences for their actions, particularly their crimes, and they would like to further a certain agenda with extreme violence, then all they have to know is that they've got a wink and a nod from a man in office who doesn't have any integrity, and they're good to go, right? >> trump says he's the friend of the police. do you think that's true? >> trump says a lot of things. um, sometimes lies are more reliable than truth. and i have

not had any experience that would suggest he is a friend of the police. i think what he's a friend of is anyone who elevates his position and secures his authority, which law enforcement is obligated to do here. but some people do it with enthusiasm based on ideology rather than duty, and that is what he's a fan of. >> and we're seeing the reaction from these people who are being released, some of them who are just thrilled. the qanon shaman that we saw that day, who became notorious. he was sentenced to more than 33 years. he was granted early release, and he touted the pardon that he got from trump. and he said, quote, all caps. now i am going to buy some mother effing guns. i love this country. what do you how does that feel for you? >> it's you know, they'll i hope that there are those who were sentenced and convicted and did time who had

a period of self-reflection and perhaps some personal growth. this man is obviously not one of them. he doesn't appear to regret anything he's done or anything he stood for. and i just have to hope that he refrains from violence in the future. >> does it make you worried for your safety? >> i'm a dc cop. i get threats, and before january 6th, and i'm going to get threats after. it's not going to change. um, but yeah, a little bit. i mean, these people say they want revenge, right? so if they want to come after me, then that's their choice. i'll be ready. >> you testified with several other officers in front of the january 6th congressional committee. i don't know if you knew about this before, but president biden, before he left office yesterday, issued a pardon for everyone on that committee. their teams who worked on that and the officers who testified before the committee. how do you feel about getting that pardon from

him? >> it's a lot of mixed emotions. um, obviously i'm grateful that president biden thought of me in his final moments and my and my colleagues continued legal safety. um, it's a novel sensation to receive a pardon when you haven't committed any crimes. um, and at the same time, i'm disinclined to accept it because i haven't committed any crimes. i haven't done anything wrong. and to accept, i know legally it's debatable, but in my mind, accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt. and if this incoming administration wants to come after me, um, and dedicate their political capital, their money and their time to trying to lock me up on some trumped up charge, um, then that's those resources that they can't spend going

after someone more vulnerable. >> wow. so you would be not okay, but. but you would be able to be okay with if they were coming after you. >> yeah. it's not an ideal situation, but, um, i didn't do this to be safe. i didn't take the job to be safe. this is a kind of danger that i wasn't planning on when i signed up for the job. but i try to do what's best for everybody. um, as best i can. >> officer hodges, thank you for for your work. and thank you for joining me tonight. >> thanks for having me on. >> i really appreciate it. coming up, my new reporting on president trump's move quietly to pull the secret service protection for his former national security advisor. one of his first acts in office. it's quite a heavy presence now that he's been stripped of him. he was informed of this and delivered a statement to cnn about this, saying that he was disappointed with with this

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expect it for life. >> when i say active and ongoing, remember in 2022, the justice department charged an iranian national for plotting to assassinate bolton on american soil. tonight, that individual is still wanted by the fbi. my political sources are the former biden campaign senior adviser valencia johnson, and former trump campaign adviser david urban. david, what do you make of trump doing this? >> listen. >> i don't know what the intelligence looks like or obviously there's an intelligence threat analysis done. if there's an active threat. still, on former ambassador bolton's life, i think he should have security. if it's for the rest of his life, it should be the rest of his life. if john bolton did things in our nation's defense that put his life at risk, then he should be defended by our nation for as long as it takes. whether it's president trump, president biden, future presidents. if you do things in defense of our nation as a public figure and a foreign government says, we're going to kill you, and there's an active and there's an active threat that i think we have an

obligation to defend you. that's why special operators have their faces blacked out. you know, they're not people who do, you know, tier one operators. they do these things, so they're not their families aren't threatened and the like. i think john bolton should be protected. >> we heard john bolton talk about this because he was saying, you know, yes, he has been a critic of trump's, which he believes obviously is why this happened. but he also criticized both president biden and president biden, restored his his protection when he was in office. listen, he sat down with jake tapper right after we found out about this. and this is what john bolton himself had to say i think it's certainly a downer for expressing your opposition to donald trump. >> as i say now, i'm going to make sure measures are in place to to provide protection. but but i think the signal is clear. this should not be a partisan matter. it should not be a matter of differing opinions on policy or personalities. this, to me is an act of war against the united states by the government of iran in threatening current

and former american officials for doing their jobs. >> i mean, this isn't a not real threat. these are these are active and ongoing. and we've seen iran targeting other officials like trump and members of his campaign team and his family. >> yeah. i mean, look, i know dave and i don't always agree on a lot of things, but when it comes to national security and active threats, you have to put partisan politics aside. that's exactly what president biden did when it came to the threat. and i want to look at the bigger message this is sending to people who have been critical of president trump and have literally, you know, talked about their expertise and how they might disagree with him, how they, you know, are fearful or concerned about the way he will govern. but that doesn't mean just because they disagree with you that you should take away their security clearance when there is an active threat against your life. it also, i mean. >> john bolton could. >> be killed. exactly. and it weakens our position in the world. and that is something that we i think, as you know,

we've been looking over the past few years, we've been looking at america's standing in the global, in the global foreign affairs. and so this is actually really concerning putting party politics aside. >> and john bolton said in a statement to me earlier that he was disappointed but not surprised by it. i think another thing that's not surprising is, but isn't normal is or traditional, i guess i should say is at the pentagon, they display the portraits of the joint chiefs chairman. everyone who has held that role. general mark milley, was just done weeks ago. it was unveiled at the pentagon. you can see it here. this is what that space looks like now. they removed it. i mean. david, what does that say to you? >> look, i don't know if the president directed it. so that general milley, you know, portrait being taken down. i don't know who directed it. i think it's not a great message, i think, listen, the republican party is just big about not taking down people's statues we don't agree with. right? we said we shouldn't be

rewriting history by taking down statues. >> those were confederate generals, not someone like general mark milley. >> whether you like mark milley or whether you're not, he held the position. um, the portraits of every other chairman of the joint chiefs are hanging in that hallway. his portrait deserves to be hung there. it's just it's it's a matter of protocol, not a matter of politics. again. um, there are chairmen who served there. probably have varied backgrounds. your portrait is hung there. tradition. i think. you know, i'm hopeful that during the course of this next four years, that portrait goes back up. >> well, look, one thing that i've paid attention to across administrations, no matter republican or democrat, is that there is a certain reverence for military service, for national security. and this is very much clearly showing that trump doesn't care about any of that. and so we often talk about when it comes to trump and the way that some elected officials respond to him, we talk about protocol, tradition, democracy. this is very clearly showing how he's going to govern within 24 hours of him being inaugurated, that he's

playing these petty politics. i can guarantee nobody was paying attention to this except for donald trump. >> well, again, i'm not sure that donald trump directed the portrait to be taken down. >> i didn't listen. >> i did not know mark milley's portrait was hung there. i'm pretty sure donald trump didn't know his portrait was hung there. >> they were tweeting about it. but we'll see. we'll ask him. david urban, valencia johnson, thank you both. i should note your forthcoming book is titled flip the tables the everyday disruptors guide to finding courage and making change. thank you both for being here. up next, the threat of imminent immigration raids putting many cities on edge. we'll tell you what the white house is saying about the timing of those tonight. >> i lay on my back, frozen, thinking the darkest. >> thoughts. >> and then everything. >> changed. >> dana said, you're. >> still you, and i love you. >> super man. the christopher reeve story february 2nd on cnn.

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it became quite clear that neither he nor his family and vice president, who were seated there, would be hearing the sermon that they expected to hear after the bishop spoke directly to him. >> i ask you to have mercy upon the people in our country who are scared now. there are gay, lesbian and transgender children in democratic, republican and independent families, some who fear for their lives after he returned to the white house, president trump told us what he was thinking. >> there. what did. >> you think of? >> what did you think of the. >> service? >> what did you think? >> did you like it? >> did you find it exciting? not too exciting, was. >> it? >> i didn't think it was a good service. no. thank you very much. >> thank you. press. thank you. press. >> thank you. do much.

>> better. >> my inside sources tonight are some of was white house correspondent shelby talcott and axios trump white house reporter marc caputo. i mean, mark, i think i watched that three times of j.d. vance's reaction, watching when he realized what was happening there. >> from what i understand, he had said to his wife, osha is is she really saying this, as in vance was in disbelief, like, am i really here? is this happening? and indeed it was. >> i mean, all of the expressions, not just trump's and j.d. vance's, you could kind of see it where tiffany, trump's husband, is sitting there. he kind of looks over, laura trump looks over like they're all kind of realizing that they're not just getting a sermon, they're getting a lecture. >> yeah. everybody's expression. >> i mean, you could watch that like seven. >> times and look at somebody. >> different each time. and you can see each of their expressions changed. and, you know, i. >> talked to a lot of people in trump's orbit afterwards who were really shocked. >> and i think that is exactly what all of them were. >> thinking. >> because this. >> is. >> historically sort of. >> an event for.

>> national unity. and that speech was was not that. >> yeah. i think maybe they should have known, because the bishop has been very critical of trump before, especially over january 6th, i believe. but all of this is happening as trump tonight was, was speaking to reporters during this event about infrastructure and i and the i kind of race between nations. and he was asked about that letter that president biden left him on the resolute desk with a number 37 on it. here's what he said was inside of it he wrote me a nice letter. >> i mean, i did open it last night. it was a a little bit of a an inspirational type letter, you know, enjoy it, do a good job. important. very important, how important the job is. but i may i think it was a nice letter. i think i should let people see it. >> they're going to be like pen pals, like writing each other. it's a good example of how joe biden is an institutionalist, like to the end. he. at the inaugural speech, when

biden showed up, or when trump showed up at the white house, biden said, welcome home. it gives you a good idea of how biden has approached this and the presidency. >> yeah, and obviously leaving it following that tradition, trump followed it in 2020, which was, you know, surprising because he didn't follow so many others. shelby, tonight, though, the white house is getting to work. people are getting settled in their west wing offices. you can kind of see there they're starting to use the levers of that. there's a memo that just went out to to all agencies from the office of personnel management. doesn't sound very exciting, but that office is actually vital in any white house, but especially the trump white house. they've been the ones kind of making sure that loyal people are hired. and they sent out an agency wide notice to employees informing them the closure of dei offices and any federal agencies, and asking employees saying that essentially, if they are employees of those offices, they are being placed on paid administrative leave, effective immediately. as the agency takes steps to close and end

all dei initiatives, office and programs. >> yeah, and they. >> also are directing each agency. head to inform them if. there are cases where. >> the agency is trying to conceal the dei program under a different. time line, they claim that that is something that they've. >> heard. >> has been going on. i haven't seen any evidence of that. but but. >> that is part. >> of the. >> notice as well. >> which is interesting. but again, this is what donald trump said he was going to do. he said he was going to do it on the campaign trail. he did it on day one of this administration. and i think it just shows how quickly this administration is moving on what donald trump wants to do. and part of the reason they've been able to move quickly is because, unlike his first term in office, he has been here before and he has hired people around him who have been here before. and so they are much more organized in a sense, than they were coming in 2017. >> yeah, that's a good point in terms of everyone coming into the west wing. i mean, you can see the transformation of the west wing in the pictures and how they change things so quickly. i think we have the before and after of what that

looked like in terms of just moving everything in and out. you know, those couches that were in the oval office and changing those. i believe we have those photos. yeah. you can see how quickly this process happens in the physical aspect, but also in terms of what they prioritize and what this looks like. and cleaning house that did doj, typically people who would not, you know, national security attorneys who would be insulated from politics. a lot of that is changing already. this within 24 hours. >> it's going to be wholesale with the portrait of milley was taken down. general milley, i think the national security apparatus here, if mike waltz the new national security advisor, is to be believed, is going to see a lot of changes. and he promised to breitbart conservative publication that they're going to be removing a lot of elements of the deep state. and so this is just the tip of the iceberg. >> yeah. what does that look like in terms of just how far they are willing to go and take this seriously? >> well, i think it's, you know, you you look at what donald trump said over the past two years on the campaign trail. and i think based on day

one, it's fair to say if you go back and look at what he said on the campaign trail, that's actually what he plans to do. so he's going to get rid of dei. he wants to make government smaller. he's talked about ending the department of education and bringing things back to the states. i think you can anticipate that all of those things are actually going to happen, and they're going to try to make that happen very quickly. donald trump, only he knows he has one term left, so he wants to get as much done as possible quickly. while he has the trifecta in washington. >> how much of that is is being orchestrated with susie wiles, his chief of staff? >> a lot of it. after the election, susie wiles and the top level campaign staff gave a speech to a venture capital firm in las vegas. and one of the things she said to this group was, we only basically have two years to do the real big, heavy stuff, so they're hitting the ground running. >> shall we talk it marco rubio inside sources, thank you very