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happening now. >> new wildfires erupting in southern california. tens of thousands of people now under evacuation orders. major questions this morning after president trump issues what could be a threat to investigate former president biden and the oscar nominations just announced, spawning everyone's favorite debate. what was the most egregious snub? i'm john berman with kate bolduan and sara sidner. this is cnn news central. >> so was. >> it a threat? >> was it not a threat, as john berman poses? it's not exactly clear, but also kind of definitely clear on what exactly he meant. but one thing is for sure, president trump may be open now to investigating former president biden. >> the funny thing, maybe the sad thing is he didn't give

himself a pardon. i went through four years of hell by this scum that we had to deal with. it's really hard to say that they shouldn't have to go through it. also, it is very hard to say. >> that. >> that just part of a wide ranging interview by president trump of president trump, his first oval office tv interview of his second term. let's get to alayna treene. she's got much more on that from the white house and was talking with david chalian last hour. and in that interview, it helps to show the president's focus early on his priorities as he as he begins this term, not just we know from his executive orders, but also his his focus in the in these first few weeks. what are your big takeaways from it? >> i think that's absolutely right. his rhetoric is really showing that so much of what he's been doing with just three days so far in office has been really geared toward his base and delivering on things

that they want. between the january 6th pardons him, gutting the program, sending thousands of active duty troops to the border, all of that playing into this. and then, of course, in that interview last night with sean hannity opening the door to really going after some of his political opponents and suggesting perhaps that former president joe biden should be investigated. and i will say as well that that is a departure from what donald trump has said in the past on this. just last month, he did an interview with nbc news where he said that he believed it would be up to his justice department. he would allow his justice department to decide whether or not joe biden and some of the biden administration officials, who he felt wrongly investigated him over the past few years, should face their own type of prosecutions and investigations. so i think what's very clear right now is that the big priority is just going back to your original question, kate, that donald trump has right now is kind of delivering on what his base wants. this this idea of going after and looking into joe biden with investigations is definitely something i can tell you from my, you know, two

years on the trail talking to trump supporters at these rallies that they've been wanting and asking for. >> elena, great to see you. thank you very much, sara. >> all right. joining us now, senior political correspondent for puck, tara palmieri, a palmieri and former trump administration official matt mowers, thank you both for being here early this morning. matt, i want to talk about what appears to be a revenge tour at the beginning. in the first few days of president trump's leadership, speaker mike johnson has just announced a new select subcommittee to continue investigating january 6th. and i guess my question to you is republicans have been saying, look, the public didn't ultimately care a great deal about what happened on january 6th or the political fallout. they put trump back in office. so why then, are republicans wanting to spend the time and effort to investigate january 6th still? >> well. >> largely, they feel like it's. >> part of the commitment that was made on the campaign trail. i mean, you can agree or

disagree with it and you can say what you want about it, but donald trump and republicans were pretty transparent throughout the course of the campaign that they were going to look to what they believe were injustices in the process of whether it was the january 6th committee, whether it's what the department of justice did and the charges brought against president trump, and that he was going to upend the bureaucracy and disrupt the process in the justice department. and that's why millions of americans, not every single one of his voters, but millions of americans, decide they want to vote for him and were passionate about doing so. they believed he did face injustice over the last four years, and that was among the reasons they were so vocally supportive of him, both in the republican primary and then showed up really in record numbers for him in november. >> polling wise, though, it wasn't anywhere near a main reason. it was the economy and immigration as well. and i'm curious as to why you think we haven't heard a whole lot about the economy and prices and trying to get those down, but we have heard a whole lot

about pardons and retribution. do you think that is good for republicans going forward? tara, i'll send that to you. >> well, sarah, you know, you you talked about the economy. you talk about immigration. i mean, i think we've heard quite a bit about certainly immigration, but also the economy in the last few days as well. and so, you know, it is important to contextualize what we've seen. yes, there's discussions about pardons. there's discussions about, you know, ensuring that there's accountability at the justice department. but we've heard extensive conversations and seen extensive action from president trump and his administration to secure the southern border, whether it's moving troops down to the southern border, the executive orders that reinstate remain in mexico policy, the energy policies which are going to drive down the cost of fuel and gas, which ultimately will also drive down the cost of goods. and so, you know, let's remember, he signed almost 200 executive actions on monday. only a small number were in reference to to, you know, the pieces we just discussed. many of them were really about the economy and immigration. >> one of the big ones, though, that caught a lot of the

public's eye, was the pardoning, including members of congress of people who were convicted of rioting and of violence at the capitol on january 6th. and i just want to. understand how republicans, tara, are dealing with this, because one of them met with the former leader of the oath keepers, who was convicted of seditious conspiracy and had his trump commuted his sentence here. here is what he said when he was asked about being on capitol hill and having a meeting with a congressperson, a republican what did i do on january 6th that caused them harm? >> did i did i touch any officer, show. >> me the video of me punching anybody. i didn't touch anyone. i stood outside. >> he wasn't even inside. >> i exercised my right to free speech. >> he was convicted of conspiring. helping plan, if you will, to have his other members

go in and try and disrupt the peaceful transfer of power. i'm curious, tara, what you see going forward in this case with the officers and the members of congress who are now having to live with some of these rioters coming in and having comfortable conversations with their counterparts. >> yeah. >> i. >> mean. >> it's extremely brazen. >> there were. >> returning to the scene. >> of a crime. >> essentially. >> and i. >> think that these. oath keepers. >> these members. >> of the january 6th coy wire, the the people. that donald trump. >> say are. like the the. >> members were. >> invited into. >> into the white house, reportedly. >> i mean, they have an. elevated status among his following. and his base. i mean, he's basically saying if you fight to the death for me, or if you go out there and rally and you and you charge forward for me, i'll protect you. and he's giving carte blanche to anyone, really, to

commit political violence. and, i mean, i think that this could be a movement that goes even further, that they not only may get their pardons and commutations, but that they'll feel empowered to, like, run for office, to organize. i mean, this could be like the next wave of like a tea party or something like that. but trump has certainly empowered them. i mean, the decisions you make on day one, they set the tone for your agenda, and it was clear that the agenda was, you know, retribution and pardon his followers and whoever is willing to fight for him doesn't matter what they do, they will get a pardon. >> terry, your dog has a lot to say about this. and we will we will talk to your dog just a minute later, perhaps to try to decode. it's all good. we love dogs on the show. >> it's all good to both of both of. >> you. all right, let's move on to to die. and what is happening there? trump isn't just targeting the federal government, dei initiatives and employees. one of the executive orders extends power

to investigate private businesses for their dei practices. his executive order says each federal agency will identify up to nine potential civil compliance investigations, which could include publicly traded corporations, nonprofits and others. matt, what is the obsession with crushing folks who have historically been treated unfairly, paid less, and not given equal opportunity? and now extending this out to private business? is this a surprise to you? >> well, it's actually i'll disagree with the premise there, sara, because in fact, by eliminating dei programs, you're actually creating an equal playing field. you're saying everyone should be valued for their merits and their contributions, regardless of skin color and ethnicity or sexual orientation. and so they're restoring merit to the process of the federal government. and there has been a. >> let me just quickly ask you, why do you assume why do you assume that when you say dei, that that means those people don't have merit, that aren't there because of merit as well?

>> well, sure. you've seen president trump actually nominate a very diverse cabinet. you've seen him both both times he's been president. you've seen him bring in a diverse sub cabinet, white house staff, and they have all been chosen not because of how they look, but because of how they perform. and that's really what the american people voted for. donald trump in large reason for is because they were looking to ensure that the federal government is bringing the best and the brightest, brightest. and yes, that's going to be diverse because the best and the brightest are going to look like america. but you shouldn't just be selecting individuals solely because of how they how they look, not because of how they performed. >> so why is there an assumption that they do not merit their jobs? go ahead. >> tara, how? yeah, yeah. how is the trump cabinet diverse? like, please explain that to me. >> well, you've got you've got a number of women, you've got hispanics, african-americans, you name it all within the cabinet. actually, you know, i don't know if it's a record number of women. >> to cabinet, maybe. it's certainly

a handful, maybe five. it is., if you compare it actually to president biden, president obama, donald trump has, i believe, more women or just about as many women as any other cabinet. >> but the larger point is this, which is that the american people are saying we want to have the best and brightest, regardless of how you look serving. and so, look, i've served in donald trump's state department. we've put in place policies that said you did have to consider candidates who didn't necessarily look or like each other or have the same background, but you never mandated that someone had to be hired just because of their race or their gender. that's that's discrimination. and what we've seen through some of these dei. >> programs is actually. >> you know, embedding discrimination in federal hiring practices. that's antithetical to how we are as americans. it's the reason why donald trump is trying to root it out. the federal government. and by the way, there's a belief that if you're a publicly traded company, you have a legal protection given to you because you're supposed to be looking out for the interests of your shareholders. you're more interested in possibly a

program that's focused on social program. you're not actually upholding the legality of the construct of getting special protections as a corporation. that's why you're seeing the administration approach that as well. >> the corporations would push back on that and wonder why republicans, who have historically not been about having government entering into business, are now asking for government to enter into business on this subject, tara palmieri and matt mowers, thank you so much for the discussion. appreciate it john. >> all right. new this morning, justice department putting local officials on notice interfere with the president's immigration enforcement. and you could face federal charges. two new wildfires in los angeles county have forced thousands to evacuate. and a search for answers in nashville after a student opened fire in his high school cafeteria, killing a 16 year old girl. >> tackling quarterbacks or tackling subscriptions. >> if i. >> had to choose. >> tackling quarterbacks. >> because it's. >> so easy to tackle such an easy, i'll go tackle those

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end that and make someone without documentation and vulnerable to deportation who's born here. the american story is one of inclusion. i am myself, the child of refugees who came here. um, my mom and grandparents survived the holocaust, and that's the american story. and so many of us are first generation americans feel this because it's sending a message that is unconstitutional and wrong. and the idea that the president could seek to overrule the 14th amendment with an executive order just goes against our system. it's illegal, and we're going to win in court. >> and it is going to go to court, and we're going to follow it very closely. with 18 attorneys general all getting together to try to push this forward. and you moved very quickly. there's other elements of the president's immigration crackdown that have real impact on colorado. another part of this crackdown is trump's effort to end sanctuary cities. the

president and his border czar made that very clear just yesterday. let me play this for you. >> so sanctuary city is going to get exactly what they don't want more agents in the communities, more people arrested, more collaterals arrested. so that's a game they want to play. game on. >> we're trying to get rid of and we're trying to end him. and a lot of the people in those communities don't want them. you know, california is a big example. >> cut off their money. >> i might have to do that sometimes. that's the only thing you can do. >> denver is one example of being a so-called sanctuary city, and i saw that mayor of denver say that denver is the single largest recipient city of migrants per capita of any in the country, after migrants started being bussed away from the border. what can the administration do to cities like denver? what will you do to stop them? >> well, that last comment you had the president say cut off the money. that is illegal. that is unconstitutional. the

10th amendment protects states as sovereign, and that means the federal government can't make us do things like immigration enforcement in colorado, our law enforcement enforces the laws. we have public safety as the mission. if immigration enforcement officials come here, they do their work. they can do that. but what they can't do is try to force our cities, our law enforcement, to do their work for them. we had to go to court in the first trump administration on that same principle, because they tried to cut off funding then, and we won. we'll do that again if we have to. >> one thing that, um, i've heard a lot of alarm about is tuesday, the trump administration announced that immigration officers will now be able to arrest migrants in places like schools, reversing the enforcement guidance that i've seen has been in place for over a

decade. our ice officers are going to be allowed on colorado school grounds. >> the schools in colorado have um, in many cases said if you want to be here in a school, you've got to be authorized to be here. and that means if there's a legal justification, that's one thing. but if it's harassment, that's another. i want to add to your concern courts, because that's another area that we're really concerned about. we've got a law in colorado that makes clear that our courts are safe spaces. if someone is coming as a witness to testify, they can't and shouldn't be afraid that they might be subject to some immigration enforcement action that could deter them from doing something that's core to public safety. so the idea of intimidation that is behind this, whether it's schools or courts, is something we're very concerned about. >> attorney general, is there any is there any gray area here? i mean, in terms of schools, schools and

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dealing with the erupting wildfires. officials are preparing for rain this weekend that could bring mudslides and dangerous debris flow. that's why they're filling up sandbags right there. before that, though, new fires creating new dangers. one is burning right up along the 405 freeway across from the getty center, another, not far from santa clarita, has spread quickly to more than 10,000 acres. just a short time ago, cal fire's battalion chief talked to us about the current conditions. >> right now, the fuel moistures the grass and brush, how dry they are. it's as dry as if it were july or august. so even though the temperature is cold, the the humidity is very, very low. the fuel moisture is very low. and now any fire is going to move very quickly. >> let's get right to cnn's josh campbell up north near the santa clarita fire. josh, what are you seeing this morning? >> well, what you see behind me is what residents of los angeles, those of us who live here, have now become all too

common. members of the national guard that have been deployed across the county because of all these fires that we've seen over the past couple of weeks. we're now at the command post, a multi-agency effort for the so-called hughes fire. this is that massive fire that erupted up here north yesterday that ballooning to over 10,000 acres. authorities are still trying to bring that to some sense of containment. thousands of people, 31,000, to be specific, are currently under mandatory evacuation. so a lot of challenging efforts still ahead for authorities here. they worked throughout the night using helicopters, using the chinooks and the blackhawks in order to try to douse those flames with water. one thing we're hearing from authorities is that, you know, if there's any good news in this terrible situation because of those past two large scale fires here in los angeles, there was already a multitude of resources that were on standby, just ready to go and attack that fire. also, you'll recall two weeks ago at the palisades fire in that deadly eaton fire, the helicopters couldn't fly because wind

conditions were so severe. take a listen here to one official from l.a. county. fire spoke with our colleague laura coates, who says that this hughes fire a very different effort, fortunately. have a listen. >> it's a completely different beast. it's a different fire with the wind. so that's the good news about this fire. we're fortunate because we can dip right out of castaic lake. so we've got a lot of water up there. there's a lot of resources as far as where we can fill up our helicopters and fixed wing crafts and stuff. so we've got plenty of water to fight this fire. >> and then finally, just south of us, as you mentioned, john, that a new fire erupting overnight. i spoke to an official there just a short time ago. we were at that fire. he said that they've stopped forward progress. right now it's at 40 acres, but it's next to an area that is heavily populated. and so as the winds are expected to kick up here, as the sun comes up, authorities will still be on edge. they're really worried about any particular embers that are still there and reigniting. so a massive effort underway there as well. jim. >> john yeah, it could be a

trying day. all right. josh campbell for us. please keep us posted. thank you sarah. >> all right. in just a few hours, president trump will take his america first stance to the world economic forum. he'll do so virtually after threatening to place tariffs on america's biggest trading partners. china, mexico and canada as well. he'll do his speech virtually. the first major address to global business and political leaders of his second term. cnn anchor and business editor at large richard quest is in davos, switzerland. you are there in person. trump will be there virtually. you're at this conference. you go every year. what are world leaders expecting to hear from the president today? >> i think. >> they want clarity. they want certainty. they want some idea of exactly how much of the rhetoric on things like tariffs is going to turn into reality. you see, the point here is everybody says the mantra of davos. here you go, sir. the

mantra of this year's davos is donald trump's bark is worse than his bite. don't listen to what he says. watch what he does. and that's the way they're soothing themselves against all the threat of greater tariffs and sanctions. now so what is going to happen. he's going to give a virtual address, and then he's going to be questioned by several business leaders. the ceo of total of france, brian moynihan of bank of america, steve schwarzman, is going to be questioning him. there's a whole variety of them that will be asking. i'm not expecting it to be a blisteringly coruscating interview, but i am expecting that they're going to put a couple of pointed questions that will, if you will, flesh out just how much is rhetoric and how much is reality. >> is there a sense among those who you spoken to, whether it is world leaders or the leaders in business, that this is a different donald trump, a more focused donald trump, and someone in this term who is

hell bent on getting things done and not just saying, oh, his his bark is worse than his bite. do they see him as different this time around? >> you nailed it in one, sir. absolutely. they are. they're just both impressed in some cases, delighted in others, aghast for some at the speed and ferocity with which this has now come into force. the executive orders the the. if you like, administrative instructions on the back of executive orders. now, what they're saying is, we know donald trump is transactional. we know he has a goal in a sense that he wishes to get to and will get there by whichever means necessary. and so you had jamie dimon here yesterday saying about tariffs. so be it. people here are realists. they're businessmen and women. they are people who will live with whatever comes their way and adapt accordingly. >> here's what i'm going

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that's dead. jocelyn escalante. she was just 16 years old. but listen to the shots fired in that cafeteria over and over as this was being live streamed. >> on. >> on. >> your cell yeah, this happened ten miles southeast of nashville. >> and talking to so many people in that area. and even representative jones, who represents that area, talked about how difficult this is for the families in that area to deal with. take a listen to the parents and students who witnessed this shooting, especially right after this all happened. they, of course, are still heartbroken. >> i witnessed it all. i saw the guy shoot himself. i saw

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defendants. also now, sources tell cnn there are discussions at the white house of inviting around, inviting some of those now pardoned convicts to the white house. everyone from the officers who were attacked that day, to the election officials who face threats for defending against those election lies, are now speaking out. michigan secretary of state jocelyn benson called the president's pardons a stunningly callous disregard for law and order. you'll remember she faced armed protesters outside her own home after the 2020 election. the secretary of state has also just announced she is now running. she is now a democratic candidate running to be the next governor of michigan. jocelyn benson joins us right now. secretary, thank you for being here first on these pardons. donald trump. he promised during the election that he would pardon people convicted for january 6th, even on day one. and he won your state and he won the election. how do you square that with your views? his pardons are a callous disregard for law and order.

>> well. >> i. >> think no. >> matter our. >> politics, we. >> should all be able to agree. >> that. >> the tragedy at the u.s. capitol on january 6th, 2021. is to be condemned. and those who broke the law, those who. >> attacked our not just our. >> institutions, but law. >> enforcement should be. >> held accountable. >> anything less is an. >> affront to. democracy and everything we stand for. >> as americans. and you know. >> it breaks my heart to see. >> people like. >> michael fanone harry dunn, eugene goodman take. this message. >> from. >> the current president. >> as one that. >> your voice. >> doesn't matter. the work you did to defend our democracy and our country doesn't matter. the violence. >> instead was okay. >> that's the. >> message it sends us. >> and for those of us who worry about our own. >> safety and the safety. of our families for simply doing our jobs in this moment to protect democracy. >> it creates a. >> heightened sense of anxiety, frankly, that we've been living with for many years. but even more so now. >> uh, you know, are. >> people going to take. >> this as a sign. >> that. >> that violence. >> against election officials and law enforcement is okay?

>> i hope. >> not, but. that's that's what's on our mind in this moment. >> i did want to ask you that, because some of the people who have been released and some of the more violent have said that what they're now looking for, they are looking for accountability. donald trump, just last night, the president just last night said yet again that the election was rigged. he said again in an interview just last night. do you fear for your safety after the president's move with these pardons yes. >> absolutely. and i know everyone, um, my colleagues, secretaries of state al schmidt and pennsylvania brad raffensperger. in georgia, we're nonpartisan professionals, democrats, republicans, independents who are just simply trying to make sure every vote is counted and protect the will of the people, no matter the outcome of any election. and so. >> the fact that. >> we now have to watch our backs even more than before, for years after, after an election that was clear and accurate and free and

fair, uh, is. >> uh, is. >> is unnerving. >> uh, and, you know. >> is as i said, it's it's really shows just a stunningly callous disregard for. >> law and. >> order and professionals who simply are just trying to make government work for everyone. >> you just announced that you are running for governor, gretchen. gretchen whitmer is term limited, so it's going to be a very big democratic. it's going to be a very big election. i mean, this this is a very important position, and this is a very important state in terms of, well, everything from. in terms of its position, its economy and its status in america's political landscape. with this in mind, yeah. how do you approach why do you why are you running and how do you approach if you win? working with the man we're talking about, president trump?

>> well. >> i. >> approach this as a mom and as the head of our second largest state department that interacts with every every resident. i run the the motor vehicle office, in addition to being running our elections. and so i. know firsthand. >> how. >> important it is that government just works well and efficiently and smoothly and saves people time and money so that they can get on with their day. >> that's what i've done. >> as secretary of state, and that's what you see candidates winning across michigan, being able to deliver on making lives a little easier, solving the housing crisis which is on everyone's mind, and making health care a little bit more affordable and protecting our kids in schools and in establishing quality education and job opportunities for all. these should not be partisan issues, and i will work with anyone at the federal level, or even with other governors at the regional level, to explore ways we can work together to deliver for our residents. but when it comes to anyone, whether it's a billionaire or a president who would try to hurt our residents or make them feel unsafe, or challenge or take away their rights and freedoms, i will be there to step in the way every moment,

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the wildfires still burning in l.a. >> county, the oscar nominees are here leading the nominations with 13. amelia perez, a spanish language crime musical. amelia perez also made history with its lead actress, karla sofia gascon, who, the l.a. times reports is the first openly transgender acting nominee. it was a good year for musicals. wicked got ten nominations, as did the brutalist. joining us now, segun, boston globe today host. it's good to see you again. i think we hung out a bit in l.a. way back in the day, talking about some of this stuff. um, all right. so we've got these 13 nominations for emilia perez, who is expected to be the big winner, the one that gathers all of these awards. >> well, i think. >> you said it, sarah. >> and it's. good to, you know, see, you know, see you on screen doing your thing. >> but it's karla, sofia gascon.

>> i mean. >> look how far hollywood has come. >> you had. >> felicity huffman. >> you know, playing a trans woman in transamerica. >> you had. >> jared leto playing a trans woman in dallas. >> buyers club. >> and you had hilary swank win an oscar for playing a trans man in boys don't cry. and to see the pendulum swing. now, amelia perez is a triumph. it's a musical. it has, you know, it also has zoe saldana nominated for best supporting actress. so i think that that is going to be this year's oppenheimer, where we saw oppenheimer kind of beat out with, again, multiple nominations and win in the categories that it was supposed to. i think that amelia perez is going to be that juggernaut of a movie. and again, it will be exciting to see carla walk across that stage, possibly winning a historic oscar. >> mr. olowu, you know, it took me a long time to learn how to say your name, and i'm so glad that you have come on our screen, because i do want to

get a little negative here and ask who got snubbed, which film, which actor? >> well, you know, actually it's funny, sebastian stan won a golden globe for a movie that that he's not even being up for in the oscars. so, i mean, he's nominated for an oscar. he won a golden globe for another one. so i guess not getting two oscar nominations could seem like a snub. but what will happen is on the day of the oscars, i think colman domingo will be snubbed for sing sing, and i hope that's not the case. sing sing is a technical marvel. the actors that are in this film are, some of them themselves incarcerated. most of the cast, in fact, is incarcerated felons that acted alongside of colman domingo. the movie is a triumph. his performance is a triumph, and if he doesn't win the oscar, if they give it to timothee chalamet, you know

hollywood's dreamboat, everybody loves him. i know he's playing bob dylan, but if he beats out colman, i might be out there with the picket signs talking about somebody got robbed. >> wow. that's extreme. let me just quickly ask you who's hosting, which is sort of the worst job in hollywood. >> well, it's conan o'brien this year. and you're right, it is probably the worst job in hollywood. the ratings have been going down every year. in fact, this year they're not going to have musical performances which which floors me because i remember 2006 when three six mafia won best song for it's hard out here for a pimp and had all of hollywood in an uproar, not expecting to see that on stage. we've had adele on stage doing skyfall. you've had incredible musical acts, so to not have music performed live at the oscars. playing us all, that's also a big snub. >> we're getting. >> a. musical act. >> right now. we're getting. >> music.

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