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choice for defense secretary. pete hegseth. though republican senator susan collins just released a statement saying she will vote no on that nomination. let's go straight to capitol hill with cnn's manu raju. manu. does this essentially mean that hegseth is going to be confirmed eventually as defense secretary? >> it certainly does. after a bitter fight over the last several weeks over pete hegseth nomination questions among democrats about whether he is qualified for the post and questions about his past misconduct allegations, which he has denied. pete hegseth is now on the verge of becoming the next secretary of defense, one of the most critical positions in the united states government in charge of setting defense policy and in charge of the armed forces and the like. this position now looks pete hegseth could fill this position as soon as tomorrow night. that is when the final confirmation vote at the moment has been scheduled. it could even move up sooner, but that's when we expect it

by tomorrow night. now this vote came down to the wire. two republicans ultimately broke ranks 5149. was the vote to overcome this final procedural hurdle. those two republicans, senators lisa murkowski and senator susan collins, both of them questioning his fitness for the job. murkowski, in particular, went after questioned his character and susan collins just moments ago, issuing a statement about why she is a no on this nomination. she said that she is concerned he does not have the experience and perspective necessary to do the job. she went on and raised a number of concerns, one of which was his past opposition. recent opposition to for women in combat in the military, something that he has walked back revise as he has gone through this confirmation process. but still, that was not sufficient for collins. but despite their opposition, they were the only two republicans to break ranks. all democrats voted no, and in the 5347 senate, you need to have four republicans breaking ranks along party lines, this time with just two. that is enough

for donald trump to ultimately get his man for this critical post. in the most controversial vote of this new senate. now, on his way to getting the job as soon as tomorrow night after this vote just cleared in the united states senate. guys. >> and manu, quickly, there was some question as to how certain senators were going to land on this. senator john fetterman of pennsylvania expressed openness to hegseth. he ultimately voted no. on the other side, the former senate majority leader, mitch mcconnell, had expressed some hesitation, and he ultimately wound up voting for hegseth. >> yeah, and actually, mcconnell didn't really say anything, which is why that people had a lot of questions about where he ultimately would come down. and he is someone to watch. given his view on national security issues. but he has yet to put out a statement about why he ultimately decided to vote to advance this nomination. ultimately, mcconnell tends to provide deference, particularly to republican presidential presidencies, and perhaps that was one reason why

here, john fetterman is someone who has toyed with potentially supporting republican. some of donald trump's picks has backed marco rubio, for one, as every other senator did, and potentially could back some other ones down the line. and interestingly, hegseth really did not meet with any many democratic senators typically throughout the confirmation process for something so significant. you meet with democrats and republicans alike. they really did not meet with many democrats. but fetterman was the first senate democrat, even though he does not sit on the armed services committee that oversees this process. fetterman had opened the door to potentially supporting him. but voting no here, showing you how contentious and how partisan this fight will be, even as, of course, national security issues often work along our bipartisan. but in this fight, a very partisan battle about hegseth, his qualifications and whether he is the right person for the job, but ultimately winning enough gop support to get there. >> manu raju live with the update from capitol hill. thank you so much, manu. erica. >> we are also following some breaking legal news. a federal

judge blocking president trump's effort to end birthright citizen in the united states, calling that order, quote, blatantly unconstitutional. earlier today, trump also addressed global leaders at the world economic forum in switzerland, where he repeated his threat to slap tariffs on companies that don't choose to make their products in the united states. cnn chief national affairs correspondent jeff zeleny is at the white house here in the studio, cnn chief legal affairs correspondent paula reid is with me. let's begin with you. so in terms of this setback for donald trump today in court, this judge was very clear in the language in noting why this is sort of a nonstarter, according to this judge. >> and this. >> was very much expected. historically, when folks challenge executive action by presidents, they file their claim in a jurisdiction where they think they have a pretty good chance of temporarily pausing a policy while the larger legal questions are litigated. >> now. >> most legal experts believe that president trump has an uphill battle here, but the battle has just begun because, of course, birthright citizenship. this has been

recognized in our. constitution to automatically make anyone born in the u.s. or u.s. territory a citizen. but trump is arguing his lawyers will argue for him that this provision has been misinterpreted, and they would like the courts to revisit this. really, for the first time in 100 years. now, trump floated this in his first term, but this was one of these executive orders that he signed on monday. they all expected, they told me that this would be challenged in court. this particular order is already facing five lawsuits. and the challengers argue that this is enshrined in our constitution and to restrict birthright citizenship is a violation of our values. and they even go so far as to call it cruel. but the trump lawyers, they argue that parents without legal status are not subject to u.s. jurisdiction, which is a key part of the 14th amendment, and not entirely so. their children are not entitled to u.s. citizenship. they also make other political arguments about the threat to national security, and how this system has been abused by wealthy people who fly here to give birth to their children. so they have that right, that

citizenship. but today, the reagan appointed judge was not in a mood to reconsider the 14th amendment, saying, quote, i have been on the bench for over four decades. i can't remember another case where the question presented was as clear. now, look, it's really this would be up to the supreme court to rescind birthright citizenship. it's going to take a while for the case to get there. most legal experts think that they're not going to be able to convince the supreme court to restrict birthright citizenship. but, erica, we have seen the conservative supermajority side with trump in some cases where all the experts said they wouldn't. right. and we've heard we've heard some conservatives say that's sort of the goal, right? they want it to get to the supreme court because they want this settled by the highest court in the land. we will see as it continues to play out. paula. thank you. as i mentioned, jeff zeleny is at the white house. jeff, earlier today, donald trump delivering his first major speech since of course, he returned to the white house addressing business and political leaders at the world economic forum in davos, switzerland. and he came out

with a pretty strong message erica. >> he did. it's certainly a forum that he was eager to address. he couldn't be there in person. so did so virtually, as he did a couple of times, actually in person during his first term in office. but he was had a bit of a defiant message and a warning for world business leaders who do not do business with the u.s. he threatened them with across the board tariffs. of course, the tariffs are actually paid by consumers, not necessarily businesses. but this was his message to world leaders at davos my message to. every business. >> in the world. >> is very simple. come make your product in america and we will give you among the lowest taxes of any nation on earth. but if you don't make your product in america, which is your prerogative, then very simply you will have to pay a tariff. differing amounts, but a tariff which will direct hundreds of billions of dollars and even trillions of dollars into our treasury to strengthen

our economy and pay down debt. so look, firing a bit of a warning shot there, if you will. of course, trying to urge businesses to do business in america. that was his theme. america is open for business. once again talking about how he has reduced regulation. the speech, though, was also a mix of really backward looking railing against the biden administration and also urging that interest rates be lowered here in the u.s. and around the world. of course, the president does not set interest rates. that's the independent body of the fed. so just one more example there of the president. you know, he has the power of the pen, there's no question, the power of the presidency. but it does not extend to legislative power. and certainly interest rates as well, but came in with a certainly a confident attitude, a bit of a boisterous one, sending that message to world leaders. erica. >> yeah, absolutely. jeff. appreciate it. thank you. boris. >> u.s. officials say they are aggressively bolstering security at the southern border as president trump ramps up his

immigration crackdown. officials say some 1500 troops are set to deploy there by the end of the week. meantime, trump is also threatening to cut off funding for sanctuary cities. listen. >> we're. >> trying to get rid of him. we're trying to end him. and a lot of the people in those communities don't want them. you know, california is a big example. >> cut off. >> their money. >> i might have to do that sometimes. that's the only thing you can do. >> joining us now to discuss is democratic congressman adriano espaillat. he's the chairman of the congressional hispanic caucus, and the first formerly undocumented member of congress. sir, thank you so much for being with us. before we get to the conversation about immigration, i want to get your reaction to the cloture vote in the senate. that puts pete hegseth on track to become the next defense secretary. what do you make of that? >> well, i think that enough has been said in the hearings to put seriously in question his ability to lead that important department. and the

questions came from experts in defense. and so not just his history of potentially bad behavior personally, but his ability to lead such a huge department and and sophisticated and complicated department is in question and still remains in question. and of course, that puts into question whether, in fact, america will be secure. >> congressman, on the issue of immigration, there is now debate internally among democrats about how to approach this issue. that was seen as a liability in the last election. i know the congressional hispanic caucus held this closed door meeting yesterday as the laken riley act now heads to trump's desk and republicans prep additional legislation. is there a consensus among democrats? >> there is a consensus within the congressional hispanic caucus to take on three major lynchpins in the very broad immigration debate?

as you know, immigration is not just about one issue, and those are dreamers, farm workers and families. i think we all agree that dreamers, over 80% of the american people agree that dreamers should be regularized and they should be part of our economy and our nation. farm workers are essential to keep the cost of produce and products down, and farm workers are staying home because they're afraid they're going to be arrested and deported. and then families must be kept together because a family is split. a mom dad split from his little girl or little boy is a weak family, and that makes a weak nation. we agree that these are the three points where we're willing to have a discussion about border security, but these three are fundamental to our caucus. >> i wonder specifically about new york city, because the nypd commissioner reminded officers yesterday not to assist ice in any civil immigration enforcement. the administration, as you know, is vowing to punish local officials who don't comply

with mass deportation efforts. how much risk do you think these local officials are facing if they don't comply with ice? >> we'll see. but i know that any aggressive action, such as a mass deportation effort gets messy, if not inhumane. and i don't think new york city or any city wants to be part of any practices that are messy or inhumane. and so law enforcement, federal law enforcement is in charge of enforcing federal laws. i am glad that new york city and the new york city police department will be going after the bad guys on the streets of new york city, and that being a federal agency, i'm comfortable with that decision. >> but if the supremacy clause in the constitution essentially lays out that federal policy overrides local law, are there any protections legally that those officials might have? >> well, i tell you, there's been a very rough misinterpretation of what a

sanctuary city is. in fact, it's not a city that harbors violent criminals. there are laws already in the books that will ensure that violent criminals are arrested, convicted and deported. what a sanctuary city does. in fact, it allows a mom to take her daughter or son to school without the fear that the principal is going to call ice on her. it allows a senior citizen to go into the emergency room without the fear that the nurse is going to call the authorities on her. it allows a mother or a woman that's a victim of a domestic violence to be able to go to a precinct without the fear that the precinct commander will get her cuffed, arrested and deported. that's what a sanctuary city is. it's a safety net that protects those that are vulnerable in our communities. >> what is in place, congressman, to stop funding from being offered to new york and other sanctuary cities as the president is vowing he might do if they don't go along with mass deportation.

>> well, i am an appropriator. i sit on the appropriations committee and we will be going through all funding possibilities. and at that juncture, we will see what will be their efforts to cut any type of funding to any city. i think is is is a mistake. cities deserve to have public safety. you cannot cut funding for public safety because of this and allow to have over 1500 violent criminals, felons released into our communities. as the president just did. it is just contradictory. and if the republican party is the party of law and order, this is a grave mistake. >> congressman, one final question. you are the first dominican-american member of the u.s. house. i wonder what your reaction is to hearing that the new secretary of state, marco rubio, is making his first trip abroad to latin america and specifically to the doctor. >> well, marco rubio, i want to work with marco rubio. he's a friend of the dominican republic. he's been there

before. we've you know, we had great conversations with the dominican president. i'm glad he chose the dominican republic as his first stop. the dominican republic is an ally of the united states, and i look forward to working across the aisle with the new secretary of state to make things better between both of our countries. >> congressman adriano espaillat, we have to leave the conversation there. thank you so much for the time, sir. >> thank you. thank you for having me. >> of course. still ahead, wildfires are exploding again in southern california. flames scorching l.a. and ventura counties as dangerous fire weather conditions persist. plus, trump's justice department halting police reform agreements in cities where misconduct by officers has been found. what it could mean for law enforcement. when we come back. >> welcome back. >> have i got news for you returns february 15th on cnn. >> when we started. >> feeding bogie the farmer's dog, he lost so much weight. >> pre-portioned packs. >> makes it really easy to keep him lean and healthy.

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lines and control hotspots. you actually see a couple of inmate crews right now working to do exactly that. california has hundreds of inmate crews working alongside firefighters throughout this whole ordeal. this past month, something that they've been trained to do. so we're seeing them at work right now. now there are tens of thousands of people still evacuated from this area, waiting to see if it's controlled enough so that they can come back home. but, you know, again, like you said, this is a situation highly dependent on how strong the wind gusts are. we've been told that had the winds been as strong as they were that first day of the palisades fire, this would have been all bets off. but because the winds were favorable and that the fire started a little bit more of a distance away from residential areas, they lucked out here. so far, no reports of structural damage or injuries, which is a

really good indication. here. they are also managing the what's to come this weekend because as you mentioned, there could be rain this coming weekend. there could be landslides, especially in burn scars like this. >> all right, natasha, really appreciate it. thank you. for us. >> southern california's firefighters have been at this for weeks now. their resources stretched to the limits. so we want to get more on the fight with captain sheila kelliher barco with the los angeles county fire department. thank you so much for being with us, captain. i do want to get an update first on the hughes fire. what's the status of containment? there? >> so we do have some great news. your reporter just reported 14%, but we are now up to 24%. and that's due to the aggressive firefight last night. the firefighters on the ground, along with the air attack and the dozers, they put a lot of work in and did an incredible job, really knocking the heat out of this fire. and those winds definitely laid down a bit, which helped us get the upper hand on this fire.

>> and captain, i understand that at last check there weren't any reports of structural damages or injuries from the hughes fire. is that still the case? >> that is still the case. that was our primary mission. as that fire burned to the southwest. that neighborhood and those communities sat right there. so they hit the the front of this fire and really, really protected that community and kept it out of there. >> we are relieved to hear that. another fire, i understand broke out this morning, the so-called laguna fire. can you give us an update on that? >> yeah, that just came in over here. since we're on that fire, it looks like they definitely have enough resources to keep that in check. it didn't look like an extremely large fire. the wind was kind of making it a bit squirrely, but it looks like they're getting their arms around that one as well. >> i do want to ask you about these altadena residents who were affected by the eaton fire. some of them say that they didn't actually receive evacuation orders. some of the evacuation orders were delayed. do you have any update on on

what might have led to those gaps in communication? and do you have confidence in the evacuation alert system? >> ah, that's a great question that everybody is looking at because you have multi agencies and multi cities and in that jurisdiction. so that is something that is what the officials are looking at right now trying to come up with the answers on what didn't work right or what did work right. so they are still gathering the facts on that, trying to figure out what happened beyond my pay grade at this moment. but they are really looking into it to figure out what's going on. >> and hopefully some kind of resolution can can come so it doesn't happen again. i wonder, captain, president trump is set to visit southern california tomorrow. i wonder if he's going to get a briefing from the l.a. fire department and what else might be on the schedule. >> we're just hearing rumors of that, that he's going to be out here. so that's what we do with all the dignitaries and officials that come out that

want the understanding of the lay of the land. they'll definitely get a full briefing on just not this fire, but the palisades fire eaton fire. so they really get a grasp of the size and scope of what we're up against. and this fire, uh, wasn't as bad as it could have been because it had 40 to 60 mile an hour gusts where i was on the palisades fire the day it started through the whole thing. and those 100 mile an hour winds were just incredible. and just unreal. >> yeah, seeing some of those pictures, it was difficult to believe that it was happening. and obviously it's affected so many people, which is why we want to keep an eye on these other fires as they spark captain sheila kelliher, thank you so much for the time. appreciate you joining us. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> still ahead, the trump administration is putting a stop on federal police reform agreements in louisville and minneapolis. we'll talk about the message this is now sending to other departments. stay with us.

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george floyd's death. and in louisville police reforms there, which came after a years long investigation after breonna taylor was killed. now, it's important to note it's not uncommon for a new administration to review pending litigation, but it's typically done on a case by case basis. cnn senior law enforcement analyst charles ramsey, who once ran the forces of philadelphia and washington, joins me now. he's also a partner now at 21. cp solutions. always good to see you. when when we hear that this is a whole scale pause across the department. what do you think the message is that that sends to departments across the country. >> well if this becomes. >> a. >> permanent thing. >> then obviously it's very, very unfortunate. >> but i think. >> people need to remember. i mean, first of all, there is still a need for police reform. there's absolutely no question. >> there are many departments that could benefit from either a consent decree or something that doj. used to call collaborative reform, which was more voluntary in nature. it didn't involve the courts, but still was an agreement between the department of justice and the individual department. i

did that in philadelphia, but now you've got state attorney generals that are beginning to perform that role in various states. and of course, companies like mine and others come in and do assessments of police departments and make recommendations to the city and to the department for improvement. so there is a need to continue moving in that direction. it's unfortunate if doj is not a major player in that, because it does make a difference in policing. >> as you mentioned, the need and then it makes a difference. i just want to highlight for folks at home some of what the consent decree agreements for both minneapolis and louisville contained. again, those are waiting on final approval. so they were by judges in those cities. but some of it may seem like it's common sense. so among those using de-escalation to minimize the need for use of force, respecting a person's first amendment rights, and investigating allegations of misconduct fully and fairly. and what is the standard

operating procedure if these are part of that consent decree? >> well, i mean, those are added to consent decrees, but the consent decrees cover a variety of topics. training is certainly one stop searches and arrests is another. use of force is another. that's a community engagement. so it goes beyond just the few things that you mentioned there. although they're part of what's necessary for a police department to be effective in serving its community in today's world. so all those things are in in a consent decree. i'm a member of the monitoring team in baltimore. for an example that's currently under a consent decree headed by a federal judge, james bredar, who's doing a fantastic city. and the department has come a long way over the past few years since that consent decree was was put in place. so it can make a difference. it can totally turn around a department. when i was in washington, d.c., i entered

into a memorandum of agreement with the department of justice. because of our a number of officer-involved shootings. after we came into compliance with the recommendations, there was an 80% drop in the number of officer involved shootings in washington, d.c., and it's remained low since then. so it makes a difference. and i would hope that the current department of justice, and certainly the president, really think carefully about that before they just make make it a total ban on future consent decrees or collaborative reform if they want to go in that direction. >> you know, president trump has reportedly talked about backing the blue and his support for law enforcement. there has been pushback on his decision for these widespread pardons and commuting sentences, specifically those of january 6th. rioters, which involved violent actions and specifically violence toward police officers. how do you think this squares, if it does,

with his continued proclamation of supporting law enforcement? and how is it being received by folks in law enforcement? >> i have i have absolutely no idea how those two things could be connected. first of all, i think it was a huge mistake to pardon many of those individuals involved in january 6th, particularly those assaulting police officers. there may have been a few people there that were engaged in less serious behavior, and i can certainly understand that. but assaulting police officers just simply cannot be tolerated. so i don't see how that fits into a law and order type of rhetoric that many elected officials continue to still want to engage in. and then when you take a look at police reform, which has a direct impact on the communities that we serve, i mean, there are some situations where clearly the department is not using 21st century type policing practices. they're training,

they're hiring, you name it, they could use a great deal of change. the department of justice historically has played a key role in helping that turn around. it can be painful, but after 5 or 6 years, once it's over, believe me, you will. they will be a much better police department. i personally experienced that. so i just i just hope they carefully think these things through. it's too late for the january 6th situation again, that's something i was really appalled by. but to move forward as far as police reform goes, that is something that's necessary. state attorney generals can pick up the slack. private companies can pick up the slack by coming in and doing assessments. but we can't allow status quo to rule the day. there does need to be continuous change in policing. and having said that, many departments are great and they do a great job, but there are many others that don't. >> yeah. charles ramsey, always appreciate your insight. thank you.

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we're we're basically announcing the administration's policy to make america the the world capital in artificial intelligence and to dominate and to lead the world in a.i. >> do you want to say your name? >> your full name? david. serial a.i. and crypto czar. >> david is one of the greatest in the world at a.i., most respected. probably there is. >> no. >> so that. >> should take us to the forefront, right? >> absolutely. we got to win. okay. >> thank you. thank you sir. >> addis david is crypto. >> yeah. this is the crypto eo. we're going to be forming an internal working group to make crypto, to make america the world capital in crypto. under your leadership. >> which is really. >> going up. >> right? absolutely.

>> all right, david, that's for you. >> thank you sir. >> you find them exciting. they might not be excited, but they're going to make a lot of money for the country. >> thank you sir. >> and so is david. you have to check him out. there's nobody like this guy. they said, how did you get david sacks? how did you do that? and he's, uh. he's doing it for the country more than anything else. so we appreciate it. david, thank you very much. >> this is an executive. >> order establishing. >> the presidential commission, an advisory commission on science and technology. do you want. >> to explain that a little

bit? >> the basic idea. >> is to. >> get together. >> top people from government, the private sector, technology industry, as well as educational institutions to make sure that america maintains its leadership position with respect to science and technology development. in the years ahead. good. >> that's great. >> next, we have a presidential memorandum encouraging departments and agencies in your government, including the department of the interior, to promote federal recognition of the lumbee tribe of north carolina. >> i love the lumbee tribe, so this is their first big step, right? >> this would be a huge step for them. >> yeah, they were with me all the way. they were great. north carolina lumbee tribe. pair. we'll send you'll send them a copy of that? >> yes, sir.

>> they were great. >> hey. >> if you'd like, i could get them that pen, sir, as well. >> yeah, let's do that. >> next we have a set of pardons for peaceful pro-life protesters who were prosecuted by the biden administration for exercising their first amendment rights. >> do you know how many? >> i believe it's 23, sir. >> 23 people were prosecuted. they should not have been prosecuted. many of them are elderly people. they should not have been prosecuted. this is a great honor to sign this. they'll be very happy. so

they're in prison now? >> some are. some are out of custody. >> it's ridiculous. >> okay. >> lastly, sir, we have an executive order ordering the declassification of files relating to the assassinations of president john f kennedy. senator robert f. kennedy, and the reverend doctor martin luther king, jr.. >> that's a big one, huh? a lot of people are waiting for this for a long. for years, for decades. and everything will be revealed okay. give that. >> to. >> rfk jr.. >> yes, sir. >> okay okay. thank you. >> mr. president. mr. president. >> mr. president. >> a u.s. judge temporarily

blocks the birthright citizenship order. do you have any reaction? >> no. obviously, we'll appeal it. they put it before a certain judge in seattle, i guess. right. and there's no surprises with that judge. >> mr.. mr. president, senator collins. >> and murkowski have now said they will vote against pete hegseth. are you worried about his confirmation and your reaction? >> and no surprises there. it's too bad. you know, it's the way the way it is too bad. >> and when would you adjourn congress to make recess appointments, mr. president? >> well, i'd take a look at that. i listened to john thune. he's doing a fantastic job. we're moving along. the democrats are trying to delay government, as they always do. they can't help themselves. even john ratcliffe, who's very, very strong, very popular and liked by the democrats, i guess he gets a lot of democrat votes. that's taking a long time and it shouldn't be taken a long time. they're maxing everything out so they can delay everything as much as

possible. >> sir. support an effort to use recess appointments if you choose. >> to do that. i'd be willing to use recess appointments. it's up to john. we'll see. and john thune is a great guy, great senator, and knows his stuff inside out and backwards. but i would use recess appointments if he wants to do that. absolutely. the democrats are just delaying. they always delay. >> mr. president, you. >> spoke with the. >> saudi crown prince. >> yesterday. >> who? the saudi. >> crown prince. how was the. >> the call? great. and they said. >> $600 million billion dollars. they can. >> invest 600. i'll ask them for a trillion. >> you said you. >> can ask for a trillion. saudi arabia be the first foreign country you will visit. >> since they invested. >> that much. >> well, if they do that, i would. yeah, i would be glad to do that. i did it, as you know, four years ago we did $450 billion, meaning the money all goes to american companies. and they purchase jets and they purchase computers and

everything else. and we did 450 billion. and i guess we're at 600, 650. and i'll see if i can talk him into it. >> i don't think. >> again. >> you showed great. confidence in steve witkoff why you. >> said. >> that you doubt that the ceasefire. >> in gaza. >> will will hold. >> since the. >> u.s. praised his. >> well, no, i think he's great, but it's a very tricky place. it's a very tricky. and we'll see. and if it if something does happen, uh, they will not be happy. >> sir. >> follow up on that one. in terms of steve witkoff, are you going to put him in charge of iran's strategy? >> and do you want him talking directly with. >> the iranians? >> no, but he's certainly somebody i would use. he's done a fantastic job. he's a great negotiator. he's a very good person, great. a very popular person gets along with people. i have great negotiators. they they have no personality whatsoever. and then i have some that do. steve has a wonderful way about him and people like him. and even in this case, both sides like him. and he was able to make a deal.

that deal would have never been made without steve. the biden people couldn't make the deal. they were working on it for a year and a half. they couldn't make a deal, and we got it done. prior to the inauguration. we said it has to be before the inauguration. i mean, the deal should hold, but if it doesn't hold, there'll be a lot of. >> problems related to your i eo. just hours after you made that big stargate announcement, elon musk tweeted that they don't actually have the money. is that true? >> i don't know if they do, but you know they're putting up the money. the government is not putting up anything. they're putting up money. they're very rich people. so i hope they do. and i mean, elon doesn't like one of those people. >> so he the guy is going to replace many american jobs. no. >> no, no. it's going to create tremendous numbers of jobs. it's going to also create a lot of benefits medically for cancer research and other things. it's going to have a huge positive impact. and, you know, we want to be ahead of

china. we're right now way ahead of china. david sacks is one of the all time experts. you know, that people are amazed that he you just met him. i don't know if he's still here. there he is. but, uh, but one of the most respected people in that world, it's a world that's a whole different world. and we're ahead of china now because of what i'm doing. and i think it's going to be very successful. >> mr.. >> yes, please. you just. asked the davos forum again. that's nato countries should spend 5% of gdp on defense. the united states don't spend 5%. >> i think it should. >> also apply to the united states. >> we're protecting them. you know, they're not protecting us. we're protecting them. so i don't think we should be spending i'm not sure we should be spending anything, but we should certainly be helping them. but they should they should up their 2% to 5%. yeah. >> mr. president, mr. president mr. president you said earlier during your speech at davos that you would like to see interest rates come down. how much would you like to see them come down. and you. >> would like to see them come down a lot. and oil prices will

come down. and when oil prices come down everything's going to be cheaper for the american people and actually for the world. but for the american people. so i'd like to see oil prices come down. and when the energy comes down, that's going to knock out a lot of the inflation that's going to automatically bring the interest rates down. >> are you worried that, mr. president, you said that. >> you would demand. >> are you worried that there's too much going on at once if you're trying to bring interest rates down and get the economy back. >> going, it just works that way. i mean, it's just economically works that way. when the oil comes down, it'll bring down prices. then you won't have inflation, and then the interest rates will come down. >> you said that you would demand that the interest rates come down. >> well. >> i would. >> expect i would put in a strong statement. >> do you expect the fed to listen to you? >> yeah. >> are you going to talk to powell about this and bringing the rates down. >> at the right time? i would. >> do president xi the people you pardoned that were participated in the january 6th, 2021 attack. do you plan to meet with any of them or meet with them at the white house? >> i don't know, i'm sure that they probably would like

to. i did. i did them something important, but what they did is they were protesting a crooked election. and, you know, i mean, people understand that also, and they were treated very badly. nobody's been treated like that. so i'd be open to it. certainly. i don't know of anything like that, but i think they're going to meet in some of the congress people, congressmen, women want to want to meet, but i'd certainly be open to it. >> have you spoken to them since you issued the pardons? >> i haven't spoken to any of them yet, but i know they're very happy. >> mr. president. >> i gave them their life back. their life was taken away from them unnecessarily and unfairly. i gave them their life back. so i can imagine they probably would like to. >> mr. president. >> what did you mean. >> when you said that. biden took bad advice and. >> not pardoning himself yesterday? >> well, he did, i think he did because he he pardoned all these people that are crooked as hell. look, the congressmen, they're crooked. what they did is they destroyed evidence. when you destroy evidence, especially criminally like that, they did it criminally.

and the reason they destroyed the evidence is because it proved that i was right. they didn't destroy evidence for no reason. they destroyed it because they found many documents saying that i offered 10,000 soldiers. if they had 500 soldiers or national guard, there would have been no problem. if they had 200, that would have been. i offered 10,000. if they needed them, there would have been no problem. that's been now totally disproven. and it's also been disproven by nancy pelosi's daughter, who has her on tape saying it was her fault that she has full responsibility for this. but and they have all that stuff, they destroyed everything. and they go through a year and a half, two years of nonsense. they come up with tremendous evidence and they destroyed evidence and schiff knew about it. that's why he's on there. he knew all about the destruction of evidence. a lot of people said he's the one that got him to do it, and he's a crooked guy, you know, totally crooked politician. and

so he's pardoned and some other people are pardoned. and these are crooked politicians, every one of them, many jackie johnson. what he did is incredible. i mean, he was the leader of the committee and he did it. cheney crying. adam kinzinger, all of them. they destroyed evidence and deleted everything. there's nothing. there's no evidence now. they're crooked politicians and they should be punished. you know, if that's even in a civil trial, you go to jail for a thing like that. they destroyed every document. from what i understand, every document, because it proved that i was totally innocent. >> mr. president, to send up to 10,000 troops to the southern border. yeah. >> our southern border. >> yes. >> when you say southern border, when i say 10,000 troops, i was referring to the capital. >> oh i see. >> and know i was referring to. >> when do. >> you plan? >> i offered. >> 10,000 troops for the capital before january 6th.

>> and as for the 1500 at the southern border, sir, to clarify, what exactly do you want them to be doing right now? >> making sure that the border is safe and secure and that criminals don't come into our country. >> mr. president. >> do you think. >> that sanctions. >> on russia will force president putin to negotiate? >> i don't know, but i think he should make a deal. >> mr. president. >> does it bother. >> you that elon musk. criticized a deal that you made publicly that he said that. >> he tweeted that? >> no, it doesn't. he hates one of the people in the deals. >> have you spoken. >> to him since then? >> no, no. well, i've spoken to elon, but i've spoken to all of them, actually know the people in the deal are very, very smart people. but elon, one of the people he happens to hate, but i have certain hatreds of people too, sir. no, sir. >> mr. china. >> what do you think xi jinping can do on the ukraine-russia war? >> which one? >> ukraine? russia? war. what can xi jinping do. >> about that? china? >> yeah. >> they have a lot of power

over russia. they supply energy to russia. and russia supplies energy to them. they supply other things, too. you know, it's really a very big trade. it's a very big trading partner. but russia supplies a lot of energy to china, that china pays them a lot of money for that. and i think they have a lot of power over russia. so i think russia should want to make a deal. maybe they want to make a deal. i think from what i hear, putin would like to see me and we'll meet as soon as we can. i'd don't meet. soldiers are beinge killed in a battlefield, and that. battlefield is like no battlefield since world war two. >> that's in ukraine. >> and i have i have pictures that you don't want to see. soldiers are being killed on a daily basis at numbers that we haven't seen in decades. and it would be nice to end that war. it's a ridiculous war. >> you said that ukraine's ready to make a deal. did

president zelenskyy tell you that? >> yeah, sure. he's ready to negotiate a deal. he'd like to stop. he's he's a somebody that lost a lot of soldiers. and so did russia. lost a lot. russia lost more soldiers. they lost 800,000 soldiers. would you say that's a lot? i'd say it's a lot. >> mr. president, you said that you wanted to make doctor king's dream a reality. what's your response to his children and civil rights leaders who say that your dei orders are a contradiction of his dream and could further drive racial. >> well, i haven't heard that. >> mr. president. >> you put the houthis back on the terrorist. how do you see the war in yemen? >> well, we'll see what happens. but they can't shoot down our ships. the houthis? yes. they're not. you can't shoot down our ships or any ships. and that's what they've been doing. so they're on the terror list that that's not good for them, sir. >> why did you revoke. >> security protections. >> for former secretary of

state mike pompeo and brian hook? >> well, the same reason i did. when you have protection, you can't have it for the rest of your life. do you want to have a large detail of people guarding people for the rest of their lives? i mean, there's risks to everything. >> so would you support us attacking iran's nuclear facilities? >> you say it. >> would you support israel, for example, striking iran's nuclear facilities? do you believe in. >> obviously, i'm not going to answer that question. we'll have to see. i'm going to be meeting with various people over the next couple of days, and we'll see. but hopefully that can be worked out without having to worry about it. it would be nice. it would really be nice if that could be worked out without having to go that further step. >> and who are you going to meet with? >> well, i'd rather not say that, but very high level people. but hopefully that can be worked out. you know, look, iran hopefully will make a deal. and if they don't make a deal i guess that's okay too. >> hey, mr. president. >> just to follow up. >> you said you think the fed

should