>> yeah, this is where it. >> sort of gets nutter butter to me. you know, if you look at who the conspiracy theorists believe that might have been involved, get this, a rising percentage of them say that they believe the united states government was involved. maybe it was the cia, maybe it was lyndon baines johnson. that number has climbed to nearly 40% of the conspiracy theorists, believing that the united states government may, in fact, been involved in that assassination. i find the entire thing to be sort of nutter butter, because i just think that the, you know, we've had 60 plus years of this going down and nobody has proved anything beyond what the warren commission actually found. all right. harry enten, i know you'll be poring through whatever documents are. >> oh, you know me. i'll be going. >> through it like nobody's business. the hegseth confirmation vote now underway. two republicans, lisa murkowski, susan collins, expected to vote no. we don't yet know about senators mitch mcconnell and thom tillis. thom tillis did speak to manu raju earlier today and indicated if he found something new that might have impact his vote, but it sounded like he was

heading toward a confirming vote. but again, we don't know for sure. the news continues right here on cnn. >> outfront next. breaking news. >> hegseth in danger. less than two hours before. >> his confirmation vote. >> republicans, unsure. >> if trump's pick for. >> defense secretary has the votes. >> could his nomination actually go. >> down tonight? also, breaking donald trump on the ground in california face to face with the very governor he ridicules and name calls regularly. will he withhold aid to the state because of petty politics? plus, trump cozies up to kim jong un again, calling him smart and predicting another summit soon. what will kim want in return? let's go out front. good evening everyone. i'm kate bolduan in for erin burnett outfront tonight we are following breaking news. pete hegseth in jeopardy. republican leaders at this hour unsure if they have the votes to confirm trump's embattled defense

secretary, pete hegseth. that vote is expected to take place in less than two hours, and president trump can only afford to lose three republican senators and still pull this off. and as of this moment, two republicans are confirmed knows they are senator susan collins and lisa murkowski. but now there is growing concern and question among republicans that there could be two more senators, mitch mcconnell and thom tillis. both men have not said publicly how they intend to vote after expressing reservations about hegseth. and if they do vote against him, this will be the first time in 36 years that a defense secretary nominee has failed on a confirmation vote. hegseth has faced a slew of allegations that have been dogging him since he was tapped to lead the defense department, including an alleged sexual assault, which he has denied. donald trump's vice president, jd vance, is on standby right now in case he is needed to break a 50 over 50 tie. that's what they're dealing with. the resistance from within the republican

party. it seemed to surprise the president today, who until now has seen his party stand with him very firmly on his nominees. >> i hope he makes it uh, i was very surprised that collins and murkowski would do that. and, of course, mitch is always a no vote. i guess. >> i guess we'll see. lauren fox is out front right now live on capitol hill outside of senator tillis office, no less. lauren, how uncertain is this vote right now? >> yeah. >> i mean, if you're a republican leader. >> or. >> you're a donald trump in this moment, it is never a good sign that you are sitting on uncertainty two hours before a critical confirmation vote. right now, it is not clear how mitch mcconnell or thom tillis are going to vote. our colleague ted barrett reporting just a few minutes ago that thune's office is in regular contact with tillis office. that is a sign, obviously, that they still are trying to keep those lines of

communication open, perhaps because they are trying to convince him to get to yes or get him information that would convince him to get to yes in this moment. look, a couple hours ago, it seemed like everything was moving forward on a on a glide path. in this moment, it's just really unclear if hegseth is going to have the votes. let's walk through a couple of different scenarios. yesterday we saw murkowski and collins vote against advancing this nomination. if those are the only two republicans, then this nomination would be approved at 9:00. when the senate votes tonight, let's say that there are three republicans, either mcconnell or tillis, join those two republican women in voting against hegseth. then you have a situation where the vice president would have to come and be a tie breaker. obviously, still a dramatic moment for a key position like defense secretary. and finally, if you have all four of those republicans vote against pete hegseth, this nomination fails. and like you said, that would be historic. that has not happened since 1989. kate.

>> lauren. keep us updated. what you are hearing from behind that door from in those hallways. we're going to stay close to it. let's get some more insight right now. out front now is democratic senator chris van hollen. senator, do you have any insight tonight on tillis and mcconnell and what you're hearing about this? >> i do. >> not anything more. >> than you're reporting here. >> but i can say that. >> as the 9:00 hour comes closer, which is when we have to cast this vote, i think there are some republican senators who are going to look at what the consequences of this vote would be, and that would be to put the most unqualified candidate in history, in the highest position of the defense department, secretary of defense. so i think what's happening, people are really beginning to zero in on just how momentous this vote could be and how dangerous it could be to the country and the men and women of our armed forces and the pentagon. >> senator, help me with something. the what could still be uncertain right now, and what

could be going on behind closed doors to get any senator to. yes on a nomination right now. is it more information about the nominee or is it strong arming tactics? >> well, all of the above could make a difference. but i think when you're talking about senators who still have not made up their mind, it's because they're having really personal moments of conscience with respect to their advice and consent. role in the united states senate. and look, i mean, we would be putting a person of very low character in the highest position of the defense department, someone who is disparaged many of the men and women in the armed forces based on their faith, based on their gender, gender, based on their sexual orientation. and so this person is really not qualified at this really important moment, any

time, really, to take this on. and so i think as the hour draws closer, i think some of these senators are beginning to realize that if they vote yes and this person becomes secretary of defense, the country could be at greater risk. >> the thing what strips me up is mcconnell here, right? senator mcconnell formally, you know, senate majority leader mitch mcconnell, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. i mean, this is a man that his job was to push a cabinet official over the line, if need be, when he was in charge of the senate. and now he could be the guy, the senator, that could potentially help sink it, do you think? could you see mitch mcconnell voting against donald trump on this? >> we'll find out soon enough. but i think changing your position right from the leader of the party to an individual senator representing his state, has a

liberating quality, right? when you're the leader, you obviously have to represent the majority of your caucus as an individual senator. that is not his responsibility. and so i think he's probably looking very closely at the historical consequences of this vote. i certainly hope he is. i don't know any more than you do at this point in time, but i've heard the same reports that you're sharing. >> if hegseth is confirmed in the end, no matter how the math works it out. what's your biggest fear? >> my biggest fear is this is a person, number one, who's just unprepared to deal with the challenges around the world from the the war in ukraine and putin's assault on ukraine to the challenges with president xi in china, to what's happening in the middle east. iran is a malign actor, a very fragile situation. and when you

have somebody like that, you want it to be a person that the men and women of our armed forces can look up to at least a little bit of a role model. but but at least not somebody who is the opposite of a role model, right? somebody who has this terrible record of personal conduct. somebody who has disparaged the very men and women who are going to be on the front lines of the united states. everybody bleeds red. and yet this is a person who has attacked women's, the women's role in the defense department attacked, um, gay men and women, attacked muslims for their faith. you cannot be a leader of the u.s. armed forces when you're attacking members of the 3.5 million who are part of that armed forces. so that's at the top of a long list. i mean, he has no management experience. in fact, the management experience he's had has shown that he does not know how to manage. we're

talking about the largest department in the federal government, over half of our discretionary budget goes to the department of defense, close to $9 billion. this guy is going to be an absolute disaster. and so i worry across the board. but i worry that our adversaries and our allies will will the our adversaries will not fear us and our allies will really worry about us. >> what you're laying out, regardless of how it goes tonight, there is a lot on the line with especially this particular cabinet position, and we're going to find out soon. senator, thank you for your time. appreciate it. >> thank you kate. >> and if hegseth nomination goes down tonight, it will be because of the many of the allegations that you just heard the senator talking about. oren lieberman is out front at the pentagon now. >> president donald trump. standing by his pick to run the pentagon. >> he's a very, very good man. i hope he makes it.

>> after weeks. >> of revelations about the former fox news host and combat veteran. >> he's a good man. i don't know what's going to happen. >> cnn has. >> learned that hegseth former sister in law gave an affidavit to the senate armed services committee accusing hegseth of being abusive towards his second ex-wife, samantha hegseth. according to the affidavit, the former sister in law did not witness any abuse firsthand. but she said samantha hegseth at times feared for her safety and had a code word in case she needed to get away from her husband. pete hegseth has denied the allegations, and his ex-wife samantha hegseth, told nbc news there was no physical abuse in my marriage. but sources also tell cnn that samantha hegseth recently gave a new statement to the fbi regarding concerns about hegseth drinking. he has repeatedly denied having a drinking problem. he's also said he wouldn't drink as defense secretary, but refused to say whether he would resign in case he did drink. >> will you resign. >> as secretary of defense if you drink on.

>> the. >> job. which is a. >> 24 over seven position? >> i've made this commitment on behalf of. >> will you resign as secretary of defense? >> i've made this. >> commitment on behalf of the men and women i'm serving. i'm not because it's the most important deployment of hearing an answer to my questions. >> cnn has also previously reported on an accusation of sexual assault against hegseth from 2017, which hegseth has denied. >> i maintain. >> that false claims were made against me. >> a police report shows a california woman accused hegseth of blocking her in a hotel room, taking her phone and sexually assaulting her. hegseth says the encounter was consensual and he was never charged with any crime, but he did disclose to the senate armed services committee that he paid the accuser $50,000 as part of a settlement, which included a confidentiality agreement. in a statement, hegseth lawyer told cnn. as we said from the beginning, these were false claims that we settled for nuisance value much less than it would have cost to defend. >> i'm not a perfect person, but redemption is real, and god

forged me in ways that i know i'm prepared for. >> as we wait to see the results of this confirmation vote, it's worth pointing out that the last three secretaries of defense had overwhelming bipartisan support. lloyd austin, 93 to 2. mark esper, 90 to 8. and james mattis, 98 to 1. however, this turns out tonight it will be a very partisan vote. and hegseth doesn't even have the support of his entire party. >> kate warren, thank you so much. outfront for us next. we have breaking news. president trump on the ground in southern california at this hour. take a look at these pictures. touring some of the disaster area, but also making clear federal aid may come with a catch. also breaking donald trump now using the u.s. military to deport migrants out of the united states. tonight, cities on alert for more raids. and we have new reporting next. and a new crackdown in china. this time it's over. what people are posting about pandas. some people even arrested, according to the new york times, this as a

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much. and we'll be talking a little bit. we want to get it fixed. we want to get the problem fixed, and there will be some ways, but it's like he got hit by a bomb. right. >> thank you for being here. it means a great deal to all of us. and not just the folks in palisades. the folks in altadena that were devastated. we're going to need your support. we're going to need your help. >> but it appears there could be strings attached to that help the president seeming to suggest now that california will have to bend to his demands if it wants the resources. >> in california, we want them to have voter i.d. so the people have a voice, because right now the people don't have a voice because you don't know who's voting. and it's very corrupt. and we also want them to release the water. >> so of course, there was no talk of any ultimatum or demands like that. when donald trump was in north carolina earlier today, a state that he won in the election. the president vowing there to do all he can to help

victims of hurricane. natasha chen is out front for us. live in pacific palisades, california this evening. natasha, a much friendlier face to face for donald trump and gavin newsom than many really expected. >> yeah. >> kate, we. >> saw an exchange. >> there in the initial handshake, right as president trump. >> came down the stairs. >> from air force one. we could not hear that conversation. between them, but at least. >> when. >> they. walked up to the microphones on the tarmac, they appeared to be in sync, talking about working together. now, president trump did make some. comments in that moment, saying that he was going to get this permanently fixed so that it cannot happen again. without mentioning specifically what that meant, perhaps, though, in reference. to the clip you just played about potential strings attached to federal aid, including him wanting to see northern california, quote, release water to southern california. now, experts have told us that what happened here in these neighborhoods during

the fires that the water supply was really not related to whether southern california gets its water supply from northern california. the problem here on january 7th was those huge, fierce winds that ripped through. the fire was moving so fast that aircraft could not fly in water from other sources. really, everything was relying on local water supply and the supply was just so overburdened. the system was overburdened because of how quickly the blazes that blaze passed through this area. as you can see, some of the residents behind us here just coming back to clean up and take a look. and of course, president trump now visiting with residents in the area. kate. >> you see that you've got you're in one of these neighborhoods so hard hit. and what we're looking at live pictures of is the president and the first lady there speaking with firefighters, los angeles firefighters who have been i mean, talk about the hours they

have worked, the days they've stayed on the job, some of them losing everything, their houses being lost and still trying to battle these blazes. so taking time there as he's going to continue to tour the damage, these are live pictures we're watching. so we'll keep an eye on this and we're going to we're going to hear more from the president in a little bit, which we're going to monitor. and as we watch this, let me bring in right now, former democratic senator from california, barbara boxer. david sherborne is here. former trump campaign adviser and new york times podcast host. lulu garcia-navarro, thanks for being here, guys. senator boxer, president trump in landing in california. he the greeting with gavin newsom. they shook hands. they when it came to coming to the cameras they were cordial. it was as if you would expect a president and a governor of any state to interact when they're facing disaster in the aftermath of a disaster. what do you think was going through gavin newsom's mind here, after all their history? you know him well. >> i.

>> certainly do. and gavin newsom was not going to be snubbed. he was not going to be absent. he wanted. >> to thank the. >> president for coming. he's acting. >> like a normal governor. >> i've gone through so. many things. >> earthquakes. >> floods, fires. >> i was in the senate for one year. it's a long time ago. bill clinton was president and republican governor pete wilson, we were all joined at the hip. so i think what our governor is doing, he's saying to the president without so many words, this this is a moment we have to come together for the people who are hurting. and by the way, you don't attach strings about, you know, voting to this because the fact is, it's already a crime in california to vote if you're illegal. and when you register, you have to show your papers. so i don't know what he's thinking. >> i want to get to the strings attached and the voter i.d. that we've just played in a second, but david isaac dovere seen as

isaac dovere, he had some interesting reporting that the governor's team was totally in the dark basically all day about trump's plans in traveling to california. but again, it looked and sounded really respectful. i keep repeating it because i myself was surprised, considering the nicknames that donald trump has called gavin newsom and things gavin newsom has said about donald trump when they're not in the same room. and gavin newsom, though not invited to the briefing that's going to be coming up in the palisades. at least that's what we heard. what do you think donald trump's team did with this? why do you think they did this? >> did what? kate. >> you see. >> the you see the governor and the president, the scene. >> i'm saying. >> they're shaking hands. they're being respectful to one another. >> that's why i'm surprised the lead up to it was everybody's in the dark. they're not getting along. you know he had extended an invite for adam schiff to come with him. so said adam schiff. then donald trump says, absolutely not. i'm not inviting that guy. it was like the lead up was all the the fire and flame. and then it was like, oh, wow. well.

>> a lot takes place on the plane. >> ride out there, right? so a. >> lot of advance. >> work is done. and look, what's important is the president's there, he's meeting with the people. >> it doesn't. >> matter whether gavin newsom is there or any other politicians there. what matters is that the president's there to see the people who are affected, who are displaced, whose houses were lost. right. and see how the federal government can help those people reestablish their lives and get back to some level of normalcy. it is a terrible tragedy with these people underwent. and president trump is there to see that firsthand. it's not a political photo op. i know people think it is, but it is really for him to get out there, see firsthand, let the people know that the federal government is going to stand behind them, that fema is going to be there to help. i've gone through this here in southwest florida with hurricanes. as you remember, hurricane ian destroyed my neighborhood, my community here. it's a terrible feeling. i'm not in the fire. but you want to know the people are there to help. and i guarantee you, the people on the ground there tonight, they are just happy to see president trump there. democrat, republican, independents. they're happy to know the federal government's

going to be there to help them out. >> it's it's important to show as the leader, as the country's leader, to show that your eyes are on it and that you care. and, you know, this happened before he came into office, but it's important that he's there now. but you cannot think, lulu, of maybe any other governor that these that have there's more animosity between these two men. i mean, they it's great. it is good. i think everyone can agree what they're saying right now. and one can hope that it continues. but i want to play for you. what? how what the name calling has looked like in the past. >> i think that gavin is largely incompetent. gavin newsom, one of the worst governors in the world. i call him gavin newsom because he really is bad. guys like gavin newsom is is he's a disaster. gavin newsom, he's a terrible governor. >> and maybe when you're faced with having to respond, those

things go to go by the wayside. but do you see these two leaders working together on this? >> i think. >> gavin newsom showing up. was actually. >> really smart., because he. >> wanted to show that. >> he is the. >> governor of this state. >> and he is. >> welcoming the. president to his territory. >> so i think it. >> was a. >> good moment. >> for both of them. i think it also. >> shows that. >> president trump can. put that. >> aside for a moment and sort of. speak up for. >> the federal government. but, you know, to what david sherborne was. >> saying, if. >> he was really there to. >> bring the. >> aid of. >> the federal government, he wouldn't be talking. >> about actually. >> disbanding and getting rid of fema, the federal agency that deals. >> with disasters. >> so. >> you. >> know, there. >> is there are two lulu, i, i disagree with you there, lulu. >> there are two different things in conflict here. >> which is one thing we're here to help you. >> and another. >> thing, either. >> these are going to have

strings attached and the and the federal arm that actually deals with this might not be there when you need them. so i think that there are mixed messages that are going to have to be sorted through. >> what do you think, david? >> yeah. lulu i would just say this. i am sure that barbara boxer, senator boxer there, believes that the california department of emergency management is incredibly incompetent. the local fire departments know how to deal with this stuff. they've been doing it for years. there is no reason put another level of bureaucracy in between that and the money that could go to those folks. >> so it's people. >> that come out. >> there that. have expertise. >> i'm from. >> florida too. >> and i've. >> been in hurricanes. >> i know. >> so. >> and so. >> i know what. fema does very, very well. >> right. and you're the florida emergency management system kicks butt. >> go ahead, go ahead. senator. >> could i, could i could i speak for myself because i've been there through every kind of disaster you can imagine. and with republican presidents, democratic presidents, governors of both parties, local officials of both parties, and it is absolutely false to say that

fema is getting in the way. are they perfect? no. and no state agency is perfect and no local agency is perfect. but when it comes to these natural disasters where it hits a certain level of destruction and pain, you work together. if you love your country. and no, it is not normal that a governor wouldn't be invited. and good on gavin newsom for being the bigger person to show up and say, mr. president, i'm glad you're here. i hope you're glad i'm here. we've got to work together because we have to call out this president when he's not normal and it is not normal to come to a state senator. >> i'm not sure he was not invited. >> senator, if they don't do voter i.d., which we already have, he's not going to give us any money. he got more votes in california than any other state except florida by a hair. >> well, i'll say this. >> let's see, i think i think the governor was invited. i think he was invited to be there on the tarmac. i don't think he

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tell us tonight about who's involved in these raids? >> well, the trump administration. >> is looking for more manpower. this is what they call force multiplier, essentially a concession that immigration and customs enforcement has very limited resources and agents. so they are looking toward other federal agencies to bolster that. so this week, the department of homeland security putting out a memo extending immigration authorities to agencies like dea and atf, allowing them to carry out immigration enforcement. but in another remarkable memo, the acting homeland security secretary invoking a sweeping legal authority to also enlist the aid of state and local law enforcement. now, it's not unusual for local law enforcement to assist ice. there are programs set up to do exactly that so that they can help one another in any given area. but the way that this is written suggests that the administration wants everyone's help in all 50 states, and it is citing a, quote, mass influx. so saying that over the last over

the recent years, there were too many migrants coming into the u.s. migrant surges. and even though numbers are low, the u.s. cannot sustain it. so that is their argument for why they are seeking the help of these state and local law enforcement. so what we have seen, really, kate, over the course of the week, is this bolstering of resources both on the personnel front, but also, as you were mentioning there with those military aircraft to repatriate migrants to their origin country. all of this laying the groundwork for their operations moving forward. again, kate, the trump administration came in on the first day saying that they were going to crack down on the us-mexico border and also in the interior, and they are slowly putting that into motion with these memos behind the scenes. but also clearly, as you see here in these images, by starting these military aircraft flights. >> great to see you, priscilla. thank you so much for the reporting as always. outfront with us right now, democratic

congresswoman lamonica mciver of new jersey ice, raided a business in her district this week, and it's gotten a lot of attention. congresswoman, thank you for coming in. you reached out to dhs and ice. i saw you say demanding more answers and information about that operation in new jersey and how it came about. what have you heard back? >> we really have not heard back anything yet. you know, first of all, thank you so much for having me this evening. we were told that in order for them to give us any information, we would have to get a signed affidavit from the detainees, which is almost impossible to get. i mean, we don't know where folks are. we don't know who they are. and so in order to get that, to just get general information, you know, it's just it's unacceptable. it's honestly unprofessional. as members of congress. and to be able to serve our constituents of our district, we should be given at least the bare minimum of information regarding these

operations. >> a local immigration rights group and newark's mayor, the what the information that they have coming out is that they said eight people were questioned and detained, including u.s. citizens and also a u.s. military veteran. and three people were then taken into custody. do you know anything more about those who were taken into custody? >> that is exactly the same information i have on me, as well as other local elected officials here in the city, are lock, step, and the information that we're getting and we have that same information, but other than that, we do not have any other information. that is that is exactly why we reached out to dhs as well as ice to get more information. and like i said, at this hour, you know, we haven't gotten anything. i'm, you know, super happy that the entire new jersey democratic delegation joined together to send that letter to dhs and ice to be able to demand more information

regarding these raids, these unlawful raids, because once again, these raids were conducted with no warrant, no justification. and so, you know, it's definitely just totally unacceptable. >> do you definitely know at this point that they had no court order? they had no warrant? >> i mean, according to some of the witnesses that were there in the business, they did not produce a warrant. and i think even the statements that have been put out, you know, via dhs or ice, they have not stated that they had a warrant or haven't said, hey, you know, you're incorrect. we did have a warrant. but the folks that were there, the business owner, they they indicated that they were not given a warrant. the a warrant was not produced and they really had no reason, you know, or they didn't have a justification themselves of why ice, you know, came in heavily armed, you know, harassing and detaining and even, you know, taking, arresting, you know, of folks and taking them with them. they had no idea why that was happening. >> i want to play you. you

mentioned the owner of the business. they are speaking out, giving a little more information about how it went down. let me play this. >> they didn't have a court order or. i mean, i didn't even ask a couple of the guys couldn't show their identification. three of them got arrested. 26 years in business. i've never seen anything like this. >> i think the question now becomes, if you can get more information, is is there anything you can do to stop this? >> well, i think at this point, you know, definitely my office has, you know, been, you know, answering calls, speaking with many constituents who are scared to death. you know, these deportations in these harmful executive orders, they're just not about deporting, you know, non-documented, you know, immigrants here. it's scaring everyone. everyone is scared. i mean, you already heard that a citizen, a army veteran, was

basically questioned and detained. i mean, how do you know who is undocumented versus who isn't? you know, by by our looks, you know, are you going to tell me that someone's going to come up to me on the street and say, hey, let me see your paperwork, let me see. identification? i mean, this is just disgusting. and it's honestly, it's unacceptable. it's unconstitutional. and this should not be happening. this is going to cause more problems. i mean, this is why people are so scared today in one of my schools, in my district, many kids who were here on green card, their families were calling. the kids were scared to walk home. they were printing copies of their, you know, cards in order to walk home because they were scared that ice would approach them. these are the types of, you know, dangers and just, you know, just uncomfortableness in our communities. this situation is just bringing to it. and it's it's just so unacceptable. it's super scary. and, you know, we just keep telling all of our constituents, we're here for you. if you need anything.

you know, of course we have caseworkers who are working on many of these cases where they can call our office and we can help them navigate some of the federal agencies. but honestly, you know, we are fighting back. i'm going to fight back, you know, as a member of congress, as an and as a member of the homeland security committee, i'm not just going to lay down and allow this and not fight back for the people that i serve. you know, we you know, we know we all know that we need immigration, you know, changes. but at the end of the day, we have to do it with decency and we have to do it humanely. so at the end of the day, we just can't accept this. >> let's see what more information comes out about this operation to learn more about it for sure. congresswoman, thank you for your time. outfront for us next, donald trump wants a reunion with kim jong un. but will kim sit down with donald trump again? and what will he want in return? plus, china now cracking down on what people post about, of all things pandas. this is panda. fans in the united states are going crazy over the debut of two

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in ukraine, and perhaps more to come, especially given everything we've seen with this pivot to russia and putin. how does trump and the u.s. still have value for the north koreans? >> because if you are kim jong un, you're never going to get an opportunity like this, probably for a very long time, to have a leader like trump. >> north korea has long been known for playing foreign powers against each other. we've seen that with russia and china, and we know this war in ukraine won't last forever. so for kim, having another option for diplomacy, including a u.s. president willing to engage directly like president trump, strategically pretty valuable potentially in the future. kate. >> here we go again. well, it's good to see you. thank you so much. outfront next, we're going to take you to washington, where a pair of giant pandas from china just made their u.s. debut. >> when i was diagnosed with hiv, i didn't know who i would be. >> but here i. >> am. >> being me. >> keep being. >> you. and ask your health care provider about the number one

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witness their departure from china today. he's at the national zoo, and there's a lot of fanfare around this reveal tonight. david. >> kate, this is really what you. >> want to be looking at. >> this is ching bao. >> she's having dinner. >> at about this hour and a lot of food and a huge crowd. and that's because this is debut day here in washington. i mean, it's a big week altogether. domestic politics aside, now you've got panda diplomacy, maybe a bit of geopolitics, but you've got bill lee and ching bao. so they're both here. they're both from sichuan province. and you've got now these crowds that have come in been waiting for several weeks to be able to see them in person, and you can just see they all crowd up to windows enclosures like this. and it's up to the pandas whether they want to be inside or out. we've seen them go back and forth. a lot of people also are stocking up on their merch here. all the panda things that you see, from keychains to t-shirts to purses, whatever you can imagine, they've got that. and what's unique about what we see here

and what's purchased is a lot of that money then goes to panda funding. well, we often have no idea what that looks like and where it actually goes, except for, well, you've got media from all around the world here in d.c., we were given exclusive access as the only foreign journalist allowed to china back in october, when they were being prepared for their travels here. and we got to go into their natural habitat to see where pandas are rewild that is reintroduced to their natural spaces. >> you just have when we think about seeing pandas, we think about zoos, and there are about 700 pandas in captivity all around the world but. >> here, this mountain is part of sichuan province. we're climbing up a pretty steep incline with a group of researchers from the smithsonian, and we're meeting with some of the folks who are their chinese counterparts,

focused on rewilding. that is, introducing some of these pandas back into their natural habitat, which is what's surrounding us. it's beautiful. it's pretty rare, as you see it, for even us to be up here. >> yeah, this. >> is definitely like a behind the scenes type of thing. >> i doubt that any western. >> media have filmed this. >> site. this is. >> a more wild place than that. designed to create large enclosures for giant pandas that are going to be released to the wild. >> so they want it's in stages, essentially. >> well, they. >> want to have pandas that are born under human care to get used to this type of thing before you release any of them to the wild. >> and the cameras out here, you're able to go through a lot of that footage and get a sense of what they're doing out here. >> yeah, we get a lot of shots of pandas. >> but also we're learning about other species that are sharing their. >> space. pandas are. >> what we call an umbrella species. >> they're like.

>> creating an umbrella. >> of protection over. >> the other animals that aren't. as adorable. >> so even though people may say, oh, why do the pandas get all the attention and love? it's actually trickling down. >> yeah, exactly. >> a big question is how do they actually know how many pandas are in the wild? will they rely on the dna that they find in panda poop? so there was a lot of feces that they would discuss from an expert level. we go into all of this and much more and show you some really unique aspects of life in china and just how large these creatures loom. i mean, if you think they draw big crowds here, wait until you see what it's like in china. and that's this weekend on the whole story of operation panda. kate, i think it's going to be an experience for most folks to take in, to just realize that there is a belovedness about these creatures, not only here in the u.s., but really globally. >> thanks for joining us. the sauce starts now. >> this is. >> cnn breaking news. >> as we come on the air tonight. senators just started