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immigration blitz is underway to arrest undocumented migrants. rosa flores, joining us now from chicago. rosa, how are migrants in that area responding to all of this well, there's a lot of fear in the community, jessica. >> but homan was here last year warning that chicago would be ground zero for mass deportations, that chicago would become the epicenter of these mass deportations. and today, he made good on his promise. ice announcing that federal agents are in the city of chicago, that they are enforcing actions against individuals who have criminal backgrounds, who are a threat to public safety or national security. here's how homan characterized it on abc news. take a listen. >> whether you see the numbers steadily increase, the number of arrests nationwide as we open up the aperture right now, let's concentrate on public safety

threats, national security threats. that's a smaller population. so we're going to do this on a priority basis, as president trump has promised. but as that aperture opens, there will be more arrests nationwide. >> now, homan said that there is this smaller population of immigrants who are public safety threats or national security threats. and so that's who they are going for first. however, ice has also learned today that ice offices across the nation are receiving ice quotas. and by that we mean that 75 arrests must be made per ice office per day. this is according to ice. that's going to put a lot of pressure on ice agents, just like tom homan just said. the number of individuals who have criminal backgrounds, there's a very small number. and so these agents are going to have to go beyond that to start meeting these quotas. now, i want to take you inside these know your rights workshops, because these

are happening all over the country in immigrant communities. i've heard this from individuals in multiple states. one of the things that migrants are learning is the difference between a judicial warrant and an administrative warrant. and sorry for the civics lesson, but this is so important. and you can actually look at i.c.e .'s website because ice agents learned this before they go out in the field. one of the things that migrants are learning in this community, here in chicago and around the country is to ask ice for a warrant. now, we know that judicial warrants, because those are the ones that are signed by a judge. there's probable cause. it allows police officers to enter your home because they have that warrant signed by a judge, and so they don't violate your 14th amendment isative warrants. these are civil watsyes. the individual might have a criminal background, but ice does not have a signature from the judge. it's signed by an ice official. now that means that that warrant

can be used to arrest someone, but they can't bust into a person's home. that would be a violation of their 14th amendment rights. and so that is the level of detail that migrants are learning. jessica, to defend their rights, to defend their families from ice busting into their homes. and so as we start to see video, which i'm sure we will soon of these enforcement actions happening here in chicago and in other parts around the country, we're going to be able to see how these are happening. and i can assure you that civil rights groups are going to be looking at that to make sure that people's civil rights are not violated. jessica. >> more to come. rosa flores with the very latest from chicago, where that is happening right now. thank you very much. and with the first week of the trump administration ramping up, president trump himself is back in florida due to attend a retreat with republican leaders at his doral golf club this week. this week, three more of his cabinet picks will face questions in confirmation hearings on the hill robert f. kennedy jr.. to lead health and

human services. tulsi gabbard to be the director of national intelligence. and kash patel to run the fbi. cnn's steve contorno is joining us now, steve, as we look ahead to next week, how is the trump team preparing for these hearings? >> well, they're expecting these hearings to be among the more contentious of trump's nominees we already saw last week. donald trump's choice for defense secretary pete hegseth, go through the closest nominating votes that we have seen yet for trump's picks. in fact, we needed jd vance, the vice president, to ultimately break a tie in the u.s. senate in order to get hegseth the 51 votes he needed for confirmation. and these three individuals that you just named have a lot of questions about their qualifications and their past statements, and even from republicans who have said that rfk jr.. s past position on abortion, for example, is potentially problematic and will

tulsi gabbard has said about syria and russia and the and the security agencies in the u.s. has raised some real concerns, not only among democrats, but republicans. and you are seeing some democrats attempting to push some of their republican colleagues to really question the qualifications of these individuals. take, for example, what michigan senator slotkin said earlier today about tulsi gabbard. >> having someone in charge of our intelligence organization that shows a preference for our adversaries, to me, is just right off the bat. a deep question. and so, again, i hope. that my colleagues on the other side of the aisle, who now have control of the senate, control of the house, that they think about again, their commitment to the country, not to any one party. i do not believe she's qualified for this role now, jessica, so far there are no alarm bells that any of these

nominees won't get the 51 votes they need, but certainly that could change depending on what their answers and their performances look like in these senate confirmation hearings. and steve, i also want to ask you separately, president trump today announced he's hitting the nation of colombia with emergency tariffs after that country turned away two u.s. flights of undocumented migrants. colombia has now hit back with 25% tariffs on u.s. products. tell us about the thinking and how this all played out. >> yeah, it was not long after that colombia's president intervened and blocked these two planes that we saw trump post a message on truth, social outlining his plans for retribution. and he criticized the president and said that these the denial of these flights has, quote, jeopardized the national security and public safety of the united states. and so he put through a litany of new punishments for colombia, including a 25% tariff that he

says could go up to 50% next week. and as you said, colombia now responding with tariffs of their own. and clearly, trump's administration was prepared for a country in south america or central america to potentially reject some of these planes and have a plan in place for what they would do in response. and he is leaning on tariffs. it is a tool that he has been using over and over and again ever since he was elected. he has been threatening tariffs on some of our allies like canada and mexico. some of our trade adversaries like china. and now we are seeing it in his immigration play with these tariffs that he is putting on colombia. jessica. >> all right. steve contorno in florida for us. thank you for that reporting. and joining us now, cnn political commentator and democratic strategist maria cardona and cnn senior political commentator scott jennings. good sunday to both of you. maria, i just want to start first with you, steve, just walking us

through what's going on with colombia right now. this is what trump promised he was going to do. he was going to deport migrants. and anyone who didn't, you know, take them back to their original country that he was going to punish them. and he is doing that with these 25% tariffs. >> yeah. >> you know. >> jessica. >> to me, what. >> that. >> demonstrates is that the only way that donald trump. >> knows how to quote. >> lead is by acting like a bully. which to me underscores that he's kind of insecure about it. >> i mean, under the biden. >> administration. >> colombia accepted more than 475 flights of. deported colombian migrants without having to. say that they were going to start a trade war without having to threaten anything. that's real leadership. why is it that now donald trump has got to resort to these kinds of. >> threats in order to make colombia. >> an ally of the united.

>> states, which. >> also has massive, important exports to the united states that are now threatened. that if those tariffs go through, it will mean that prices will go up for all of us, including flowers. on the eve of valentine's day. and so to me, that doesn't demonstrate anything other than incompetence. i really don't get it. >> scott, i want to know what you think. i also specifically i mean, maria does point out colombia is a u.s. ally, especially in that region. um, what do you think of this? >> well, number. >> one. >> the reason donald trump had to resort to these tariffs and sanctions and punishments. >> today is because the president of. >> colombia refused to. >> accept a flight. >> of migrants. he said he wouldn't take them. >> donald trump said. >> we're going to enter the f around and find out portion of this conversation. and he hit him with sanctions and tariffs. and now tonight, the speaker of the house, mike johnson, says congress is going to back him up on that. he's putting colombia. he's putting the rest of this hemisphere on notice that you are not dealing with the same

president that you were. you're dealing with someone who is taking illegal immigration seriously. now, within an hour of making that threat, the president of colombia said. >> whoa, whoa. >> whoa, i'll send my own plane to. pick these people up. so obviously he got their attention. i don't think there's actually going to be any tariff war between the united states and colombia, because as long as they come get their people, i doubt donald trump's going to end up tariffing them and they won't tariff us, and they'll have learned a valuable lesson that donald trump is taking immigration, illegal immigration, seriously. this is real leadership. but it sends a message to everybody else in the hemisphere, do not test us. this is not biden and harris. this is trump and vance. we mean business. >> and maria, you know, there was that new york times polling on on his immigration policies. and you have to kind of tear it out. but but talking about this, let's call it the first phase. but what what rozsa-flores was getting into where tom homan and company have said, look, first of all, we want to go with people who have criminal records. we want to get them out

of this country. there's overwhelming support from americans for that particular piece of this. um, and so and so there's that. but then we have the second part of that that i want to ask you about, too, which is rosa went on to talk about these new quotas for ice with 75 arrests per officer per day. and then that is obviously just numbers wise, going to start to spill out into other people. >> absolutely, jessica. and this is what is so incredibly frustrating and mind boggling. >> about the way. >> that the trump administration is now handling deportation. um, just a quick note on the flights. you know, they act like there were no deportation flights under the biden administration. and we all know that even, you know, to the chagrin of many activists, joe biden deported many, many undocumented immigrants. so, again, this is just for show because trump needs to feel like the strong man, like the bully.

and it just underscores huge insecurity amongst his leadership capabilities. that's number one. number two, on the deportations themselves in terms of criminal undocumented immigrants. jessica, of course, everyone supports that. everyone supports that. and that has been going on under democratic administrations, under republican administrations. that has been an ongoing policy of the united states of america, which is another thing that this administration kind of belies doing this now saying, oh, my god, we're the first ones to do it. well, no, they're not the first ones to do it. but what they are, the first ones to do is to lead with cruelty, to lead with divisiveness, to lead with fear mongering among these communities and to put in place quotas that those 70 arrests per day, per ice office. jessica, means that they very soon will be deporting grandmothers, deporting business people, deporting people who are the ones that run our our sunday

markets that we love so much. on the weekends, they will be deporting people that are our colleagues when we go to work. they are people that we don't know right now, are undocumented in our communities, but will be soon handcuffed and and will be treated like dangerous criminals when the only thing they are doing is injecting $7 trillion of economic heft into the united states. that is not leadership. that is not a real effective deportation policy or immigration policy itself. it is something that somebody like donald trump, who needs to feel secure in his mandate to be the strongman, has to dole out. and it is not the way that is going to fix this immigration issue. and it is a huge problem. the way to fix it is to sit down with common sense. republicans and democrats to figure out how you continue to remove the criminal migrants that have come

here, and to figure out how to have expanded legal pathways for the undocumented populations that have been here injecting trillions to our economy. >> scott, i know you want to jump in there. i do want to ask you to, while you're giving us your thoughts, just also to just can they do this? look, the logistics of what they're trying to do are difficult. they need a lot of people, a lot of manpower, a lot of money to do this. is it possible? >> yeah, of course it is. and, you know, it happened under barack obama, actually, he deported millions upon millions of people. and i don't have any recollection of the u.s. economy collapsing and no republican. and i don't think most americans are taking seriously the argument that the u.s. economy is underpinned by violent, criminal, illegal immigrants. i mean, if our entire economy is underpinned by people who are rapists and murderers and commit other violent acts, then, you know, we've got a whole other set of issues going on in the economy. that we ought to talk about today. i mean, people people just aren't people just aren't buying that argument. so the populations that they are

starting with are violent, criminal, illegal aliens, then they also have a million and a half people who have existing fully adjudicated orders. and beyond that, i would just point out that if you came to this country illegally, you're already a criminal, illegal immigrant. you've already broken our laws. even if you haven't been arrested yet or charged with it. if you're here illegally, if you broke our laws, then you're going to be targeted. now. maybe you're not going to be a top priority today because there's other, more dangerous people here. but we cannot send a message that, well, some illegal immigration is okay. and that's been the problem of the last four years. basically, biden and harris were like, hey, just get here and it'll probably work out for you. that is no longer the communication strategy of the u.s. government. the strategy is don't try us. whether you're the president of columbia or somebody who just walked across the border illegally, do not try us. it is not going to work out for you, period. >> all right. okay. we're going to put a pin in it for a second. we got to take a break, but stick with us. scott murray are going to stick around as well. we'll have more conversation on

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inexperience. and this public adoption of positions on syria and the war in ukraine that some national security officials view as russian propaganda. what do you think of that? especially knowing what how mitch mcconnell voted on, on on pete hegseth and that thom tillis kind of was wobbly there at the end? >> well, first of all, i do think she has some work to do and she has questions to answer. that's true for every nominee for every office. but this also applies to her. number two, i don't think she has a lack of qualifications. i mean, she's a in the u.s. armed forces. >> i mean, she's never served in. intelligence, right? >> uh, well. >> as far as i know, the preference of congress when creating this office. was that someone be a commissioned officer in the u.s. military? that was a preference that they said someone who was trained in these matters would hold this job. i think she's more than qualified to hold the job. and i think people saying she's not are similar to the people who are saying or trying to denigrate. pete hegseth 20 years of service and two bronze stars and so on and so forth. i just

think it's kind of a mindless, uh, attack on people. they just don't like them politically, and they want to come up with something different. they just don't want to say that. i do think she has questions to answer. she, because she's been a politician, has a record. she has cast votes, she has made public statements. and so i'm sure the senators are going to ask her about those statements. the same is true for hegseth. he had made statements. he got questions, he delivered answers. and then ultimately he was confirmed. so i think she has work to do. i think she has a chance to get confirmed, but there's no question there's a handful of republicans that don't particularly like this set of national security, uh, nominees from donald trump. but that's okay. probably be overcome as long as she handles her confirmation hearing and her meetings with the senators correctly. >> including including your old boss, mitch mcconnell. >> yeah. look, he he does not like hegseth. he didn't think he was qualified. i don't know exactly what he's going to do on gabbard, but, you know, he's got different foreign policy views and different views on how these nominees should come up

than donald trump. that's okay. he's going to end up voting for 98% of all the president's nominees, and i'm certain they're going to work together on most of the president's agenda moving forward. mcconnell is the chairman of the defense appropriations subcommittee. so he's going to be right in the middle of our national foreign policy and helping fund the pentagon and funding our national defense. and i don't think he'll let any no votes get in the way of wanting to have the strongest possible working relationship. but look, i will say this. he and the other republicans that went against hegseth are not in the same place as the rest of the 't in the same place as donald trump right now. the overwhelming public opinion, at least in the republican party, is that these people deserve a chance to perform. and because they are outsiders, because they are disrupters. that's kind of what the voters asked for in the election. >> maria, i want to get your thoughts on that as well. and then specifically to what democrats do here, because we did see listen, there's the marco rubio example 99 to 0. he got incredible bipartisan support. we saw seven democrats crossing over to vote for kristi

noem for dhs secretary. what do you see with this next round? >> well, i think that democrats have kind of put these nominations in in buckets. one of the buckets that's very, very few of the nominations in there are the ones that are actually qualified. and that's why you saw senator rubio get so much support from from democrats. very few of the nominees fall in that bucket. kristi noem i think, got a bit more democratic support than what hegseth got, which was zero, as i think it should be, because i think that they believe that she's going to be more of a figurehead than anything else. we all know that homeland security specifically immigration and everything around the national security around the homeland, is going to be really run out of the white house with tom homan and, um, steve, uh, stephen, the the

adviser for immigration. thank you. yes. uh, the adviser for immigration for trump. and so i think she was more of a figurehead. but there are four very specific nominees, jessica, that i think democrats feel are incredibly dangerous. and they are they were hegseth was one of them. and every single democrat voted against him. uh, tulsi gabbard is another one. kash patel and rfk jr.. and so scott's right. they all have really, really tough questions to answer. but i think more so than any other nominees we have seen come up for nomination and specifically on tulsi gabbard. uh, you know, the senator slotkin was absolutely right. she is not just unbelievably unqualified, but i believe and many democrats believe she is downright dangerous because of the views that she holds, because of what she has done in the past, because of who she has had

conversations with, because of the propaganda that has come out of her mouth that is pro russian against ukraine, pro syrian. and that is not the kind of director of intelligence that we need in this country right now, given everything that we are facing, why would we want somebody that doesn't believe the united states of america, that has gone against the positions of the united states of america, and somebody who really doesn't have vast experience in the issue of of intelligence. and that is something that we have seen in the past. normally this position goes to somebody that has had years of experience in the intelligence business, and she is just not qualified for that. in addition to all of the things that she has done to make her dangerous for this position. >> okay, scott, like we really have to go one teeny tiny thought. >> yeah, i just look, she was a she was a democrat member of congress from hawaii. so she's one of your people. maria. number two, she has served this country honorably as a commissioned officer in the united states military, as the

in the united states military. and just with hegseth, i think democrats are making a real strategic mistake in denigrating the kind of service that both hegseth and gabbard have rendered. you can question their positions, and you can ask them questions about their record and statements. but when you minimize the kind of service that they both rendered, the kind of service that does qualify you to be in the national security space, i think it makes democratic arguments against these nominees look unserious. and i think the unhinged way democrats acted against hegseth actually helped him get confirmed. >> all right. i really just have to say this. this is critical. we are not denigrating the military service of either. we are saying that the things. >> that she is unqualified. you said it. you said it doesn't matter. you said she's not qualified. >> the things that hegseth has done, regardless of his military service outside of his military service, are what make made him incredibly unqualified. and the things that gabbard has done outside of her military service are what make her incredibly unqualified and dangerous. >> all right, maria and scott,

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california, and we're entering the sierra madre. villa debris basin. >> the national guard deployed to assist first responders just hours after the deadly fires in pacific palisades and altadena began in the first week of january. this unit, part of the guard's task force 49, is charged with digging trenches at the base of the san gabriel mountains in southern california. a race against the rain to protect neighborhoods in and around the burn. >> zone. >> the fire basically causes it to be a lot more susceptible to erosion. >> oh, wow. >> oh, i see. >> this now. >> so this is where the water is. >> going to flow. yeah. so the water will come through there. >> wow. that is deep. their aim to divert water that could trigger dangerous mudslides once rain begins to fall. >> we have two means of loading. we have our excavators. and then behind us we have our loader,

our front wheel loader. >> crews digging pits into hillsides to create dams. >> so this portion will capture the sediment, rocks, vegetation. and then where it opens up, the water would flow out. >> the whir and buzz of bulldozers, excavators and other heavy machinery a welcome cacophony to a community still reeling from fatal wildfires. >> so this was a part of the burn scar. so the fire did come through here. >> burn scars are among the most vulnerable areas for potential mudslides and even flash flooding. this has been the driest start to the rainfall season in southern california in over four decades. the ground is so dry that if the rain falls too fast, soil won't be able to absorb it. lieutenant colonel james smith is the commander of this operation. >> if we do get significant rainfall, you're going to see a lot of that material behind us here. it's going to move down into this basin. >> his mission, he says, is to

do whatever is necessary to avoid even further devastation. >> you can't imagine the tragedy they've all suffered through. we'll be here however long we need to be in order to help this community recover. >> and jessica, here in altadena, we have started to see some rain throughout the day. many of these homes and businesses that made it through the fire with sandbags and tarps to try to prevent further damage that should be coming, perhaps this afternoon starting at 4 p.m. that's when authorities are warning for this. flood watch will be in effect for 24 hours, and not just for here outside dina, the palisades areas and any areas that were affected by fires in the past six months should be on high alert. jessica. >> all right. julia vargas jones, thank you so much for that. let's bring in meteorologist tyler mauldin in the cnn weather center. so, tyler, what is the rain outlook for southern california today? >> so, jessica, it's been raining since yesterday afternoon and it's not going to let up until later in the day tomorrow. you see, we've got this system right offshore of

california, and it's bringing the rainfall on shore into southern california. the first rain of 2025, the first rain of many months. this rain is doing a few things for us. number one, it's falling over the active wildfires helping the the the firefighters get better containment on those fires. number two, it's raining over the burn scars in southern california. that leads to the potential for debris flows and mud mudslides. and then third, it's falling over an extremely dry southern california. many of these areas in extreme drought, because we absolutely have not seen any rainfall for many, many months. when you have rain falling over drought stricken areas, the ground is essentially like concrete and the rain has trouble seeping into the ground, which leads to the potential for flash flooding. what are we seeing here on radar over the next 24 hours? well, the rainfall is actually going to pick up in intensity starting

now through tomorrow afternoon. that's why we have a flood watch in effect from 4 p.m. today to 4 p.m. local time tomorrow, and excessive rainfall outlook here across southern california. level two out of five today. and then we have a level one out of five as we go into monday. we're going to see roughly about an inch in the los angeles area. some heavy snowfalls and rainfall in the mountains. jessica. and we're going to see the rain machine. jessica, end after tomorrow. it's right back to the sunny, dry conditions. unfortunately. >> oh, man. back to that. all right. tyler mauldin, thank you very much for that update. and up next, where president trump says he wants to send millions of people living in gaza before, as he said, quote, cleaning out the besieged territory. why? his idea is already being met with resistance from key allies in that region. >> news night with abby phillip. week nine eastern on cnn. >> thinking of updating. >> my kitchen? >> yeah. >> yes.

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hostages set to be released during the first part of the ceasefire deal, but the lack of such a list had been a key sticking point in negotiations over the next phases. with us now, dana strohl, the former assistant secretary of defense for the middle east as well as a research director at the washington institute for near east policy. thanks so much for being here with us. i just want to start with president trump's comments. over the weekend, he said gaza needed to be, quote, cleaned out while its palestinian residents resettled in neighboring countries like jordan and egypt. in the last hour. we have heard from both of those nations leadership firmly rejecting that idea because they believe it would be displacing palestinians from their homeland. what do you think about all of that that's kind of unfurled over the last 24 hours or so? >> it's no. >> surprise that egypt and jordan. immediately rejected the insinuation that palestinians should be forcibly relocated to other places. first of all, it just feeds this

narrative that what israel really wants and the united states is not a palestinian state living next to israel, but actually to force them somewhere else. the winners here are hamas, who can say, see, i told you so. iran and other adversaries who can say, see? israel and the united states are not genuine about taking steps for a credible pathway to a palestinian state. not to mention that egypt and jordan are some of the most, um, fragile states in the middle east right now. egypt has taken in refugees from libya, from sudan. its economy is very fragile. same with jordan. there's been a war in syria. there's been a war in iraq and and jordan as well, very economically fragile right now. >> and so knowing all of that, were you surprised to hear president trump suggest this? >> i was surprised because president trump has already served in the white house for a full term, and

he knows the views of the leaders of the region. he knows these issues. and in fact, in his first administration, he actually put out what he called the deal of the century in order for israel to live side by side with the palestinian state. so he actually has a record of supporting steps toward a palestinian state. >> and so now we also have this cease fire deal and hostage deal that is continuing to play out. obviously, there will be more hostages released, more palestinian prisoners released as part of that deal. we are in phase one. there are three phases. how would you evaluate the likelihood of us getting through and us seeing all three phases completed at this point well. >> first. >> what we've seen over the last 24 hours is that this cease fire is really exceptionally fragile, and it's not between two equal parties here. hamas is a terrorist organization. and what it did over the past 24 hours is behave like a terrorist

organization. and what we also saw is that by israel holding the line, qatar and egypt putting pressure on hamas to adhere to its commitments just for phase one of the cease fire, actually did produce a breakthrough, kept the cease fire on track. and we're actually going to see two groups of hostages come out in the next week, some on thursday, and then again the following weekend. but getting to the next two phases, i think, are going to be incredibly difficult because it will require the israel defense forces to leave gaza to pull all the way back to the borders of gaza, and civilians from southern gaza are going to move into northern gaza. it will be very difficult to restart this war. and the most challenging dynamic is that we don't actually have any answer for what governs gaza. after this cease fire, if not hamas what? there's no international consensus, and we're probably paving the way here for either israel to have to go back in at some point when hamas tries to launch another terrible terrorist attack, or we're going to have something that looks like mogadishu on the

mediterranean, which is in nobody's interest. >> and so without that, you know, how much of that responsibility now lies with the trump administration to figure out what that plan is for, what comes next? >> the trump administration has been exceptionally active even before his inauguration, in moving the parties to agree to the ceasefire, he was very clear after his election that he wanted the war to be over, and he didn't want it on his watch. and it's quite clear that trump administration engagement with the israeli government is one of the reasons that we got to this ceasefire, and we're starting to see hostages come out. so it's going to take consistent engagement pressure by trump and his team on the israeli side. and it's also going to take a lot of pressure from qatar and egypt, who have been working with hamas. the next thing, though, is we're going to need international will and commitment to rebuild gaza to fund that, to fund that, and also to condemn hamas when, again, it tries to break any of

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analyst brian stelter joining us now. brian, several names in the mix here. oracle, elon musk, youtube super influencer mrbeast, shark tank's kevin o'leary. where do we stand on a deal? >> there's no shortage of wannabe buyers. there's lots of people. >> that recognize. >> the value of tiktok. >> there's even lots. >> of billionaire types that believe they could help finance a deal. what stands in the way here is china's the chinese owner of bytedance and. ultimately the chinese government. the ruling apparatus. will they let a deal through? but notably, jessica, i think what's been missing some of the coverage here, there are already institutional. investors in tiktok. one of them, general atlantic, the ceo of general atlantic, bill lord, said at davos last week that he believes a deal will get done because. it's in everybody's interest. so there are already outside funders that are in tiktok. the question is whether that chinese control will ultimately be loosened. and that's what trump has to negotiate. >> right. if the chinese officials will actually allow

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