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we start with the raids on undocumented immigrants ramping up across the country. we saw dramatic scenes in colorado, illinois, arizona and florida, just to name a few. officials say they arrested almost 1000 people on sunday alone. cnn's priscilla alvarez is on the leading edge of all of this reporting. priscilla, give us kind of the top line view. and if you could put it in the context of what we saw during the biden administration. he its immigration enforcement blitz, which is means that they essentially brought on more federal agencies, especially justice department agencies, to bolster their ice teams as they went across the country looking for their targets. this was especially true in chicago. you see a photo there of white house border czar tom homan, who was on the ground for that. now, ice later reported that there were about 956 arrests yesterday. if you look at the

numbers during the biden administration in the last year, well, they were around 300 arrests. so this is certainly an increase from where we have been. though, of course, there is a question of sustainability here. all the same, though, officials i have been speaking with say that this is part of their plan moving forward. this is what they're calling those enhanced operations by having all of these agencies assist in the arrest and the detention of undocumented immigrants. and i also spoke last night with white house border czar tom homan, who called yesterday a, quote, game changer and said that all of these agencies are serving as what he calls a, quote, force multiplier. he maintained, again, that they are targeting public safety and national security threats, though we know that it is not off the table if they also encounter other undocumented immigrants over the course of these operations. some of those stories appear to be bubbling up of others who may not have had a criminal record but were arrested. but certainly we are looking into the details of each of these cases as best we can. dana. >> priscilla, thank you so much

for your amazing reporting here at the table. our three other terrific journalists. cnn's jeff zeleny, laura barron-lopez of the pbs newshour, and leigh ann caldwell, now of puck, you have done also extensive reporting on this issue throughout the campaign. the politics of it, the policy of it. can you just give us your top line view of what we saw over the weekend? >> well. >> what we're seeing is. >> priscilla is saying, is this all of government approach? essentially. a lot of other agencies being involved, including the justice department, in carrying out these deportations and, yes, tom homan is saying it is just being focused on public security threats, national security threats. but there are other migrants getting looped in here. and he said that they're they're definitely not going to stop arrests if migrants are if migrants who have no criminal record are caught up in these. so there's that. but there's also this other big story when it comes to immigration in terms of shutting down all legal pathways, essentially, effectively, all legal pathways have been shut

down. and when tom homan gave an interview with abc over the weekend, he said, people just need to come here legally, come here to the port of entry. well, that's what people were doing through the cbp. one app and other pathways. and yet this administration so far has shut down almost every single avenue. >> that app and other ways that they were trying to get. and through the ports of entry was seeking asylum. right. and he's saying. >> no more. he's saying. >> yeah, one other difference. one of the many differences you named a few is that the trump administration has done away with the practice of in doing raids, avoiding churches, of schools, of hospitals. you mentioned tom homan was out over the weekend on abc. he was asked about that, particularly the question of schools of children and whether they are really criminals who deserve to be deported. >> how many. >> ms 13 members. >> are at

aged 14. >> to. >> 17, many of them. so look, if it's a national security threat, public safety threat. and what what you need to understand is a case by case name another agency, another law enforcement agency that has those type of requirements that they can't walk into a school or or a doctor's office or a medical campus. no other agencies held to those standards. >> jeff. >> look. this is one of the first. proposed changes last week. and when it came across, it seemed like it certainly could be significant. and now we're seeing it obviously play out. i mean, i guess he's not wrong in the sense of other agencies. if it's the fbi or if it's someone else, but the the level of threat is different. i mean, it's not necessarily a criminal on the run or someone who's possessing a gun or whatnot. so i'm not sure that that's the best comparison. but look, the big picture here is this is exactly what the trump administration stephen miller at the center of all of these executive orders and things. this is exactly what they wanted. i talked to someone late friday in the trump administration who said that

they thought it was actually playing out slower and not as dramatic as they necessarily had hoped, but it's more strategic. there's no question about that. like, you'll remember the the chaos of the travel ban eight years ago and things in that first week, in the first days of the trump administration. but look, this is what the president talked about on the campaign trail. and this is exactly, um, you know, what people voted for. people whether they understood the policies or not. >> exactly. people are going to get sick of us saying that, but we're going to keep saying it. this is not a surprise. if you listen for five minutes to donald trump on the campaign trail, uh, this is the kind of thing that he talked about and promised and what he was voted in to do, whether people had this as their priority or not. talk about strategy. one of the more interesting, um, conundrums is how democrats deal with this, because they realize. politically that many of them

have been on the wrong side. and i'm using that in quotes because of how complex this immigration is, but that they need to sound tougher on undocumented immigrants than they have in the past. j.b. pritzker, the governor of illinois, who, of course, is illinois, of course, is where chicago is. and chicago was one of the cities that saw raids yesterday. listen to the way he said that he is approaching this issue. >> when we're talking about. violent criminals who have been convicted and who are undocumented. we don't want them in our state. we want them out of the country. we hope they do get deported. but they're also doing, though, and it's quite disturbing, is they're going after people who are law abiding, who are holding down jobs, who have families here who may have been here for a decade or two decades. and they're often our neighbors and our friends. and why are we going after them? >> what do you think about the way he kind of split the issue

there? >> yeah. >> that seems to be how democrats are at least contemplating addressing this issue. we saw on capitol hill last week, the democrats from swing states, swing districts voted for the laken riley act, which has to do with criminal undocumented immigrants as well. um, this is an issue that, as jeff said, that is politically popular right now, especially on the fact of people who are here illegally who have committed crimes. um, president trump knows that. democrats know that as well. and they're having to reshift their entire frame of thinking on this issue of immigration now. what j.b. pritzker said was fascinating. the fact that he did separate the criminals from the non-criminals. um, that seems to be what democrats are doing, although there are lots of strategy sessions, lots of conversations happening among democrats right now about how far to go, how when to push back

against donald trump. and we could see that if this continues to hit more and more people who aren't criminals. um, if this breaks up families. et cetera. it will be fascinating to see how the public opinion changes and then how democrats and republicans respond. >> and how it affects businesses. that's the other thing that i think will be as the planting season and other things sort of take hold throughout the spring and things, that is what is going to be fascinating to watch. republican business owners, et cetera. are there going to be big impacts in the fields and things? >> what's interesting also is that, um, i mean, politically it is also still popular to support a pathway to citizenship for the people that have been here for decades, including dreamers. and so that's something that you're seeing. some democrats still lean into, like pritzker was. the other thing was that out this week was, you know, donald trump and sources close to the white house have said that they want to have surrogates out there to really sell this deportation plan. and so you see people like doctor phil out there embedded with.

>> i'm glad that you mentioned that he was on some of the ice raids yesterday. and, and. >> and you're going to see i think more and i was told that they're going to also try to lean on latino surrogates to really sell this. and, um, that that's something that democrats are going to need to respond to. and we're seeing that they're not really sure how to respond. as leanne was saying. >> i do want to talk about the question that i discussed with tom homan here on this program last week, which is a big challenge that this administration will have is when they deport people, where are they going to go? they he said, we're going to send them back home. some of their homes don't want them to come back. colombia. what happened over the weekend with colombia is case in point. the governor and i'll just read to you what happened. basically, donald trump made a threat and donald trump won. and that threat was 25% tariff on all colombian goods. if the country of colombia doesn't take

the migrants that the u.s. was sending back to them. karoline leavitt, the white house press secretary, said the government of colombia has agreed to all of president trump's terms, including the unrestricted acceptance of all illegal aliens from colombia returned from the united states. today's events make clear to the world that america is respected again. um, jeff, this is classic donald trump. i mean, this is straight from the pages of the art of the deal. way before he was in politics, which is i'm going to make a threat. i'm going to make a really big threat that could impact you. never mind the fact that it could impact the u.s., too. when it comes to 25% tariff on colombian goods. and i'm going to just sit back and wait for you to back down. it happened in this case. he won. the question is whether there's a country out there who will say, no, i'm not going to do it. try me. >> we will see. and this all unfolded, you know, it is like the art of the deal of the new age in terms of social media. this all was unfolding sort of

in real time in these public displays on, on social media. but you're right. i mean, he he did a win, i guess. i mean, the, the i think one thing we also have to keep saying these tariffs are paid by consumers. exactly. so like we would be paying those whatever. but it is unsettling to other leaders there's no doubt. and that's a big part of what the president's objective is to keep other leaders on their toes and make them a bit afraid of him. >> it isn't even so much that the deportation flights occurred because deportation flights occurred under president biden. it's that he used military aircraft to carry out these deportation flights. and colombia was feeling as though they weren't being respected. and you see now honduran, the honduran president, also say that they feel as though migrants being sent back to them are not being respected and threatened, made a threat of their own to the u.s. >> yeah. and what you said about consumers is really important. we have to take a break, which is if colombia didn't back down and there was a 25% tariff on colombian goods, a lot of people who drink coffee

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agenda? yeah. he feels like the government hasn't worked very well for the american people. these watchdog folks did a pretty lousy job. and he wants some new eyes on washington. and that makes sense to me. >> the smart reporters are back. leon. um, some of these inspectors general were actually appointed by him the first time he was there. some of them have done, uh, watchdog reports the inspector general reports that donald trump has applauded. so there was not necessarily a total rhyme or reason why some of them were fired and some of them were kept on. but the bottom line is separate from the fact that he did it in a way that broke the law. >> yeah. >> it's that he did it at all. given what these individuals do when it comes to good government. >> inspectors general, are are central to government agencies and central to nonpartisanship, they do not subscribe to one party or another. they work

under both administrations. and that is why, um, that is why this tradition has been kept to keep most inspectors general. now, of course, some have been fired in the past. donald trump fired a few in his first term. joe biden fired one. i believe it was. um, but the fact that he did not notify congress, give him the 30 days, also, just ten days ago, 11 days ago, the creation of a bipartisan caucus on inspectors general to protect and uphold inspectors general was created on that is, senator joni ernst started it. senator chuck grassley is on it. so is senator james lankford. they say that inspectors general not only important for for investigating agencies, but also waste, fraud and abuse and, uh, overseeing federal governments or federal budgets as well. so it's going to be interesting to see if congress does anything. it sounds like not a lot. >> and, uh, former long time ago, but former des moines

register reporter jeff zeleny knows all too well about chuck grassley's obsession about this. like, i actually think this is what helps get him up in the morning. right? he's so focused on this kind of thing, and he was part of not only is he a member of this new caucus, but he was a big reason this law was updated in 2022. here's what he said about donald trump's move. he said there may be good reason the ids were fired. we need to know that. if so, i'd like further explanation from president trump. regardless, the 30 day detailed notice of removal that the law demands was not provided to congress. >> and let's see what he says after that. i mean, that certainly is a very clear statement. it's in violation of the law. so let's see if senator grassley will hold the trump administration accountable for this. but i think the bigger picture is if this administration wants to focus on government spending through doge and other things, these inspector general's reports lay

out a pretty good pathway for misuse of government funds. i'm thinking back to the stimulus funds back in oh 910. some of these reports were actually very essential to, um, sort of shining a light on abuse and things. so to me, it is not a serious form of governing to get rid of everyone carte blanche. but it's easy. it's the easy thing to do that gets the headline firing inspectors general as opposed to, um, seeing, you know, if some are are good or not or whatnot. but it's just, i think, in search of a headline rather than actually in search of government issues. >> but to me, it also fits with what trump's campaign heritage foundation, project 2025 and others made clear that trump wanted to do when he came into office, which is essentially his loyalists across the board, people that wouldn't necessarily provide that check and balance. and and the other thing in inspector general does is that they also make sure that the administration is doling out

funds, as they're supposed to, based on congressional allocation. and that's something that trump has made clear. he wants to fight. he wants to essentially take back the power of the purse from congress. he and his incoming omb director have made that very clear. and an inspector general would keep an eye on that, or. >> that is like a primo project. 2025 stuff. just real quick, i do want you to listen to what mark greenblatt, who was fired as the inspector general for the interior department, said on cnn this morning. >> these removals should be setting off alarm bells for a number of different reasons. but the primary one, in my view, is the independence of these positions. the whole construct of inspectors general. it's based on us being independent, that we're not beholden to a political party of of any stripe. what will president trump do with these positions? is he going to nominate watchdogs, or is he going to nominate lapdogs? that's the key

question. >> okay. another key question that i don't want to lose sight of is the pardons that president trump issued a week ago on day one of his administration, and that included people who were convicted of more than 100 people who were convicted of violence against police officers, against law enforcement. this is something that a lot of republicans said they didn't want him to do. he did it anyway. listen to what lindsey graham, a close ally of donald trump, said about that. >> no. >> i've always said that. i think when you pardon people who attack police officers, you're sending the wrong signal to the public at large, and it's not what you want to do to protect cops, but he has that power. i don't like this. i don't like it on either side. and i think the public doesn't like it either. so if this continues, if this is the norm, there may be an effort to rein in the pardon power of the president. >> i mean, we'll see. that would take a constitutional amendment because it is pretty

basic in the constitution. but some people are really upset about it. and, liane, i do want you to also look at an image that we saw over the weekend, saturday night in particular. he was in las vegas and president trump was on stage. on that stage also was stewart rhodes, who is the head of the oath keepers, and he was pardoned. he had there you can see it. he was pardoned. he had been convicted of almost 20 years, i believe, in prison for seditious conspiracy. can you talk about this from a political perspective, from a reporter perspective? and, leanne, you were in the capitol on january 6th. >> yeah. and there's still a lot of capitol police officers who were attacked that day who are still in the capitol that day, serving, doing their work, something that was very tough for them in the days after having to defend some of these members of congress, who also some of them at the time, very few, but, you know, defended and

eventually defended donald trump. i kept hearing that a lot over the past few years about from some of these capitol police officers, but from a political perspective, donald trump did campaign on this, perhaps not on the expansiveness of this. and so, politically speaking, donald trump doesn't seem to think that there's any, um, negative impact from it. um, there is something we were talking the other day, actually, this is something that kamala harris campaigned on, democracy, you know, rule of law at the end of her campaign. and she didn't win. now, it's something interesting that you said, jeff, when about, um, about the firings of the inspectors general, how it was easy just to fire them all. donald trump insinuated that, too, that going through these cases individually was going to take a lot of time and it's going to be difficult. and so they just pardoned them all. but, uh, lindsey graham's response to that, who is an ally of donald trump was was quite

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>> the lawful orders of the president of the united states will be executed inside this defense department swiftly and without excuse. >> the lawful orders he mentioned include a number of executive orders. president trump is set to sign today that could reshape the american military. cnn's natasha bertrand is here with the details. natasha. >> donna secretary hegseth. he did seem to confirm earlier today when he arrived at the pentagon, that trump would be signing these executive orders that could really dramatically reshape the military. of course, it remains to be seen how exactly the defense department is going to actually implement them. but these orders include, we are told, a new ban on transgender service members, a complete gutting of d-i programs across the military, as well as the reinstatement of service members with back pay who were discharged for refusing to get the covid vaccines back in 2021. now, we should note that for that covid vaccine mandate, that was actually repealed back in

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a.i. and also the ceo of nvidia, which i just talked about. and it also comes on the backdrop of among the first things that trump did was $500 billion for a.i. infrastructure. and so here you have this clear commitment when he's talking about the golden age of america. he's focused a lot on tech, on innovation, on a.i. and then it's clearly not an accident that china not only put out there that they have this product put out there, how little it costs relatively to make and put out all of the intricate details of how they did it. >> without question. and this is the second week of the trump presidency. so i think we'll see many reality checks from the world sort of responding. and i think you're right. on the first full day on tuesday afternoon, i was at the white house, president trump standing in the roosevelt room with these

three leaders and the stock prices of oracle and softbank also plummeting today because of this. so this is just an example of uh, of the competition is at an entirely new level here. and it's not going to be enough for the president and the administration just to simply tout this here. this is, uh, you know, might be a game changer. so, um, a challenge for him that we've not heard the white house obviously say anything about this. i'm not sure it's something that he understands. but the question is, will there be people in the government? and he does have an envoy or a special advisor for, um, for this type of thing. but we will see sort of where it goes from here. but a huge shock for the market. >> i just want to correct one thing i said. the nvidia ceo was not at the inauguration, but all the other men were there. what's your take on this? and, you know, obviously we are not tech people, but we are people who are knee

deep in covering the politics of this. and there's so many different layers that will have an impact. one of which i mentioned before, which is sort of the competitive side of this. then the other is the national security concerns, which we have seen play out, which are still playing out with tiktok, which became so popular in the u.s. despite having american made competitors. but american consumers tend to prefer tiktok. and i'm sure there are a lot of people who are worried that this. a.i. company deep, deep seek, will maybe follow tiktok. >> yeah, there's a lot of layers here with, of course, our caveat that i'm not a tech technology expert a.i. expert, but i will say from a policy perspective, um, congress has been tinkering and talking about how to deal with a.i. for several years now. it really escalated in the last couple of years, and there was this multi-pronged approach of

not only funding artificial intelligence to ensure that the u.s. continues to be the leader in it, but also when democrats controlled the senate under chuck schumer, it was also to put guardrails and try to find out the right way to regulate a.i. as well. we've seen a shift in the trump administration, where the guardrails it seems as how they're talking guardrails don't matter as much as long as they are industry leaders. this is going to be a huge job for congress to figure out alongside the president, and what they're able to do. >> and can they even can they even reach an agreement? no. i just thought it was interesting that elon musk came out and basically downplayed cast doubt on what deep tech is saying about their capabilities. and of course, he's going to be a factor in this, as he's expected to have donald trump's right ear. >> yeah, he has right left all the years coming up. never again is now. we're going to recognize international holocaust remembrance day after a break.

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>> the world's foremost experts on the holocaust and antisemitism until last week, she was america's special envoy monitor and combat anti-semitism. >> thank you so much for being here. it's an honor. you have worked your whole life tirelessly to combat hate against jews. what did you make? of what? of what jonah said about the fact that she's worried the world hasn't learned? >> i'm more worried now than if you had asked me this 3 or 4 years ago. what we've seen in the past couple of years, certainly since october 7th. but it was bad even before october 7th, is a tsunami of anti-semitism, a tsunami of anti-semitism. and in fact, i think over a year ago, you and i talked about

this. i believe it was on air about the normalization of anti-semitism, how kids in middle school make anti-semitic cracks. where do they hear that? where do they pick that up? it's sort of in the bloodstream that that people who are saying things that they never would have said before. and i'm quite concerned about that. >> and you're very clear that this is not a far political left issue, a far political right issue. it's just an issue regardless. >> that's exactly right. i have friends on the left who see anti-semitism on the right, and they're absolutely accurate with what they see. i have friends on the right who see it on the left, and they too are accurate. the problem is they don't often see it next to them, and we have to be bipartisan and multi-partisan because it comes not just from the right and left. it comes from other areas as well. we've seen it from islamist extremists. et cetera. you've got to be willing to care. call it out irrespective of where it comes from. >> and let's talk about what the it is. we've talked about this

before, but it's important, particularly on this day, to reiterate that everybody knows now about conspiracies and how it can erode society's hate against jews is, as you say, the original conspiracy right in in global culture. and you wrote a piece in the new york times and in part you say those who adhere to this conspiracy who see power seated, not to a legitimate government, but to a jewish cabal, have lost faith in the rule of law and are looking for someone or some group of people to blame. they're willing to believe that their votes do not help them. their leaders do not represent them, and their institutions do not protect them. their distorted worldview renders accountable rules based government and an illusion. >> that's right. if you believe, see, anti-semitism is acts like a prejudice, operates like a prejudice, like racism, homophobia. et cetera. et cetera. you know, a jew does something right. oh, that's one of the good ones. a jew does something wrong. oh, that's how

jews are. but it has something unique. and one of the unique elements is this conspiracy based notion that the jews, small in number, are working to manipulate the world for their own benefit. and this has been a conspiracy that has existed over centuries. and even though it can be shown to be absolutely absurd, i mean, it existed after world war ii when jews were being were, as we saw now with jonah lacks, coming out of death camps with nothing. um, and if you have this conspiracy, if you adhere to this conspiracy theory, you feel not only do i hate jews, but i've got to stop them by any means necessary. and that's when it becomes really dangerous. >> let's go back to germany for a second and talk about what happened and what has been happening with elon musk, arguably certainly the most the richest man in the world. and now clearly one of the most powerful in a lot of

ways, a lot of people made a lot out of the the move that he made. >> the. >> hand motion. the hand motion at at a at a trump event on inauguration day. what i want to focus on is what he said during a virtual appearance at a campaign event for germany's far right afd party on saturday. listen to part of his message. >> i think there's like, frankly, too much of a of a focus on on past guilt, and we need to move beyond that. um, people, you know, children should not be guilty of the sins of their parents or even let alone their parents, their great grandparents. >> um, you know, i don't. his hand motion. i don't know what he meant. i know how it was interpreted by far right neo-nazi groups, but it's not a matter of guilt that a child born today in germany, child born today in germany, is no more guilty than a jewish child born today in the united states or any place else. but responsibility. and the what he is saying can easily be

interpreted as forgive, forget, forget. we don't have to worry about it. the first sin is forgetting. when you forget what you've done wrong, then you, then you're. it's possible to slip into it again. >> and you know more than anybody about the way that people talk and about the sort of politics in europe, especially germany, the fact that he gave this message to the to the far right party, which, you know, there are various there's a spectrum inside that party is with a lot of parties, but there are people who have. >> neo-nazi. >> neo-nazi tendencies who. >> are putting the neo is sort of kind, you know, there are many people in that party with far right anti-semitic. and by the way, also anti-islam. anti people of color, but certainly anti-semitic views. and to give them an out again, it's not guilt. >> it's not just out, it's. >> support, its support. it's

responsibility. you've got to take responsibility for what's happened in the past. my family wasn't here during the 19th century when there was slavery, but they came to this country, um, quite a few years ago. but still, we've benefited. i bear responsibility for the wrongs of this country. the holocaust, which was the decimation out of one of every three jews in the world, is not something that should be diminished or forgotten or set aside. certainly not in germany. >> ambassador. lipstadt, professor lipstadt, you have lots of titles. thank you so much. >> thank you very much. >> appreciate it. thank you for joining inside politics today. cnn news central will start after a break. >> this part changed my life. >> superman crazy. just that simple little thing over the horse. >> chris wanted to change the world. >> people are literally walking because of him. >> superman. the christopher reeve story. sunday at eight on cnn. ontario, canada. your third largest trading partner

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