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we're following these major developing stories and many more, all coming in right here to cnn news central. >> today, president trump is expected to sign more executive orders to fulfill his vow to overhaul the military. cnn has learned that the president is set to ban transgender service members, wipe out the military's diversity programs and reinstate service members with back pay and benefits who were discharged for refusing to be vaccinated for covid 19. in the meantime, the trump administration's immigration crackdown is well underway. ice says that it arrested nearly a thousand people across the country on sunday alone, and texas governor greg abbott says he is sending another 400 national guard troops to the southern border to support border patrol agents. and there are more deportation flights

that are expected to arrive in latin american countries today. this is video from earlier in the day. passengers arriving in guatemala after a deportation flight from the u.s. let's go to cnn's alayna treene, who is live from the white house. elena, what more do we know about trump's expected executive orders involving the military? >> right. well, i'm going to walk you through them again. so we know that donald trump is set to sign at least four executive orders today related to the military, three of which are really designed to reshape their operations on a day to day basis. as you mentioned, brianna. the first would ban transgender service members from serving in the military. another would reinstate those who were previously discharged for refusing to be vaccinated for the covid 19 disease. and then the third would really gut all of the dea programs within the military. now, i am told, according to one of these white house officials, that pete hegseth, who was just sworn in over the weekend as donald trump's new secretary of

defense, he is going to have broad power in how he implements this, specifically, the transgender military ban. i know one big question is, will that relate to currently serving transgender service members in the united states armed forces? that is still unclear. i was told that is a decision that will be left up to the pentagon. but just to talk more about that ban in specific specifically because it is one of the most significant. we know that back in 2017, during donald trump's first term in office, he had signed a ban on transgender service members from serving in the military. that's something that joe biden very quickly after he came into office, repealed and revoked. now we're seeing donald trump try to re-implement it. but again, it's very unclear exactly what it is going to look like this time around. as for the order that would reinstate some of those members who were just charged for not getting the covid 19 vaccine. we know that actually, in 2023, the defense department rescinded that and allowed those members to come

back and rejoin the military. however, i am told that this order is different in the sense that it would give those members back pay as well as reinstate them to their prior rank. now, the other one is on on dea programs. we know that they are trying to get rid of those across the military, but i do want to talk about this fourth order that's a little bit different. so essentially this fourth order that we learned that donald trump is expected to sign is about creating what they're calling a, quote, next generation missile defense shield for the united states. the white house is trying to characterize this as an iron dome for america, trying to refer to what we know is the israeli defense missile system that has really been used to intercept missiles from gaza over the last several years. i want to read for you just some of what this incoming or this expected order will say. this is according to a fact sheet i obtained from the white house. it says, quote, the executive order directs implementation of a next generation missile defense shield for the united states against ballistic, hypersonic, advanced cruise

missiles and other next generation aerial attacks. it went on to call such potential attacks a catastrophic threat. now, just to talk about that catastrophic threat, quote, for a second, none of these weapons have actually been launched in the united states or during modern u.s. wherefore in modern years, i should say, we also know that the united states has a current system in place to intercept some of these types of missiles. but this is something donald trump had promised he wanted to do on the campaign trail. now we're going to see him sign something that would begin the process of building it. brianna. >> all right. alayna treene live for us at the white house. thank you. cnn national security correspondent natasha bertrand is live for us now from the pentagon. and natasha, walk us through exactly what each of these executive orders covers. this is a pretty sweeping. >> yeah. well, brianna, as elena pointed out there, it really remains to be seen just what it's going to look like once these orders are actually implemented. because while these

executive orders do ask the department of defense to implement these policies, they have not yet figured out exactly what they are going to look like, and it could take quite some time for them to do so. but for now, the information that we're getting on the possible ban of transgender service members, it really goes even further than trump's 2017 order, saying that it can take a minimum of 12 months for an individual to complete treatments after transition surgery, which often involves the use of heavy narcotics. that's from a white house fact sheet that was obtained by by elena earlier today. and that is really indicating that service members who are transitioning or in the process of transitioning are incapable of serving something. of course, that is bound to be disputed by lgbtq rights groups as well as, of course, currently serving transgender members of the military. so it is unclear exactly what this is going to look like in terms of those currently serving. are they going to be accepted from this

executive order? again, unclear. now, in terms of the the abolition of these die programs across the military, that is something that pete hegseth has tweeted about over the weekend. he said that dod does not equal die. he wrote in twitter, kind of handwritten, to really underscore his point there. and that is really wading into the culture wars yet again here, insisting that the department get rid of all of its programs relating to diversity, equity and inclusion. and it's caused so much confusion over the last week or so, just in terms of how all of the different services in the military are supposed to carry that out, that the air force actually went as far as to remove coursework from its basic training courses. that included video of the tuskegee airmen. that prompted a lot of outrage. but the air force is saying, look, we are just trying to figure out here what courses are actually included, die. that is now prohibited. and so as part of that, they had to take down this coursework, they had to

scrub it. they had to make sure that nothing was actually violating these orders. and these instructions from the white house. and they ultimately put the tuskegee airmen videos back up. and then the last thing, of course, is the reinstatement of service members who were discharged under the covid vaccine mandate. look, again, it's unclear how this is going to be different from the 2023 policy under president biden that allowed service members to get back into the military, even if they did not get the covid vaccine. it seems as though they'll now get back pay. they'll now be able to retain their full rank if they want to rejoin. but that's a big if because we're told that so far, really under 100 of those service members have actually chosen to rejoin the military, even despite the repeal of that covid vaccine mandate. brianna. >> yeah, maybe a bunch of back pay and benefits might incentivize them. we will see how that goes. natasha bertrand live for us from the pentagon. thank you. boris. >> let's expand the conversation now with cnn military

analyst and retired air force colonel cedric leighton. colonel leighton, great as always to see you. i want to get your reaction to these executive orders, beginning with the one reinstating some of these service members who refused to get the covid vaccine. you heard natasha there outlining some of the differences between this one and the action taken by president biden. is it a substantial difference? >> yeah, it is. absolutely. if you're one of those individuals who's coming back in and you want back pay and your rank restored to you, that is a huge deal. because if you don't have your rank restored to you, you start at a much lesser position in your unit. when you go back, you also basically have your past record erased when it comes to being, you know, in essence. now once again, a new member of of, you know, your unit. so from that standpoint, it's a big deal. and certainly the back pay part is financially huge for them. >> i wonder about the one. essentially banning transgender service members from the u.s. armed forces, something like 14,000 currently serve in the

u.s. military, as natasha pointed out. unclear exactly what their status might be moving forward. but in terms of transition treatment, which the administration is pointing to as being, quote, not conducive for deployment or other readiness requirements, i mean, if someone is willing to serve their country and die for it, why not allow them to serve? >> well, that is actually the fundamental question, boris. when you look at the kinds of issues that transition surgery, for example, would would bring about, there are certainly readiness concerns during the period when a person undergoes that surgery and probably in the immediate post-operative phase of that. so there are readiness concerns, but there are also readiness concerns, readiness impacts, one should say, with service members who are pregnant and who give birth. and we have learned in the military to work through all of those issues. and the same kind of thing could be done for transgender soldiers, sailors, airmen, guardians and marines. so that's the kind of thing that becomes. it depends on how

they want to implement things. but if you have transgender service members, there's a physical component to their readiness. but the fact of the matter is, the military is more of a cerebral game nowadays than a physical game, especially in certain disciplines like the intelligence field, communications areas like that. so absolutely true for specialties like the infantry and for pilots and specialties like that. but a different story for cyber warriors and intelligence professionals and others of that type. >> it's such an important point. i do also want to get your thoughts on this ban over d e i in the military. obviously, someone who served in the air force. i think you were listening intently when natasha was talking about some of that overcorrection, removing this lesson about the tuskegee airmen from the curriculum and then re-implementing it. what does all this mean for the character of the armed services? >> yeah, i think it is a fundamental question because,

you know, on the one hand, you know, a lot of members of the military are kind of conservative by nature, just in terms of their patriotic. they come in and they want to serve the country, but they have to also remember that our history is based on having people from all backgrounds come and serve in the military. the military is an organization that has attracted a lot of minority recruits, a lot of female recruits, and in some cases, transgender recruits. and that is a situation that draws upon the richness of our culture. and you don't want to eliminate that, especially when you get into a situation where you go into a combat zone where you don't know the culture, except for a very few people in your in your unit or in, in, in your service. and we found that issue many times during the 90s and during the 2000 where when we had the attacks, for example, on nine over 11, there were very few people who had language skills for afghanistan, for example. and when you have few language skills, you end up with

a problem where you don't understand the culture that you're getting into. so the greater the diversity for things like that, the better off you are. certainly from a preparedness readiness standpoint and certainly from an intelligence standpoint as well. >> colonel, before we let you go, i want to get your thoughts on this iron dome for america idea. is it good from a tactical standpoint to have that sort of thing in place? >> so we have to keep several things in mind. there are vulnerabilities to the israeli iron dome, and the reason we provided a lot of support during the biden administration for the two attacks that iran launched against israel is because of those vulnerabilities, not only in the iron dome, but in other, other aspects of the israeli air and missile defense system, like david sling and, and and those kinds of elements. their iron dome is actually based on both israeli and u.s. technology. so to call it iron dome was kind of going back. i understand what they're trying to do. the problem that you have is providing an impermeable shield for a country as big as

the united states. it's hard enough for a country as small as israel. it's really almost impossible to do that for the united states. so in essence, what you have to do from a technical standpoint is concentrate on protecting key target areas, such as big cities, missile areas, military installations, things like that. and in order to do that, you have to have a system that's flexible enough. it's absolutely essential that we protect against things like hypersonic missiles, which this executive order does. but the fact of the matter is, the missile defense agency has been working on those kinds of defenses already. so this may speed up that process, but it is really, in fact, nothing new. >> colonel cedric leighton, always appreciate the analysis. thanks so much for joining us. >> you bet. >> still plenty more news to come this hour on cnn news central. the immigration crackdown is in full swing. nearly a thousand arrests in one day. and now president trump is claiming victory after colombia agrees to accept more deportation flights. plus, we're

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of 75 arrests per day, according to two sources. that far exceeds the average pace of arrests set by the biden administration, which was just over 300 per day immigration czar tom homan denies the arrest. quotas have been imposed on ice officers. well, now there are many families that are facing the cold, hard reality of these mandates. they've had loved ones arrested, and that includes those who have spent decades in the u.s., like this woman's father in the chicago area. >> they will open the door because they thought maybe one of us were in trouble or something, or something happened to us. he never did anything that would have been nice. i'm already heartbroken myself, and i can't really imagine little kids whose families are breaking apart because of this. >> with us now is the former acting director for i.c.e., john sandweg. john, what's your reaction as you're watching these immigration raids

happening? how do you see these going? >> well, i think, brianna, you know, it's the tip of the iceberg in a sense right now. i think what the agency is doing is focusing on very similar operations to what they conducted during the obama administration, during the first trump administration, during the biden administration. and that is scrubbing the records of court records, jail records, probation and parole records looking for anyone who might have a nexus to the criminal justice system and is also deportable, but that somehow ice missed. what they then do is they build target lists. the teams are going out on the streets, knocking on the doors. now there are some differences. the first difference is that the trump administration has lowered the threshold. during the biden administration. you had to be convicted of what was termed a serious crime, and you needed to be convicted of that crime to be a target of these types of operations. the trump administration is taking anyone who's had a brush with the law, whether they've been convicted or not. and then secondly, getting rid of that serious crime. you know, limitation. so individuals who might have been booked on a traffic offense. and then the second issue is what are called collaterals. when

they go into a house, you often don't just find the target, you find a family living there or a group home. these ice agents in these operations will run the identities of everybody in the house taken into custody. anybody, regardless of whether they have a connection to crime or not, who's undocumented? >> yeah, that's a very good explainer. so ice says they arrested nearly a thousand people on sunday alone during the biden administration. ice averaged a little more than 300 a day, a third of what ice is doing now is that level of enforcement sustainable for these federal agencies i think it's going to be very interesting to see how this develops, what is not sustainable are those target lists i discussed. >> you just don't find that many criminals in the united states, they're going to exhaust those those people with a nexus to criminal justice system very quickly. it's also slightly more tedious work. as i've explained previously, it takes a lot of agent time to go out there and find people who are criminals, because they're just more difficult to find typically than are the regular people. so

as you see this pressure coming down, whether there's a quota or not, but as pressure is being put on the field offices, you just reduce their standards even more. and there really is an inverse relationship in immigration enforcement. the higher quality from a public safety perspective is slower and results in a lower quantity. and you just can't have both. so what i'm very interested in seeing is in the next few weeks, as these target lists get exhausted, as they just run out of this easy pickings in the criminal of the people connected to the criminal justice system, what operational tactics are they going to utilize to to feed the machinery that the trump administration has built? >> we are seeing some local law enforcement get involved, kind of teaming up here in these arrests and some that are not. it's really kind of ad hoc, though. how are you viewing that aspect of these raids? >> again, i think that's the beginning of it. i think right now there may be some local law enforcement participating, you know, probably primarily for political purposes. i.c.e. doesn't need the assistance of

them, especially not with these other federal agencies involved. certainly in larger cities like chicago, where you have sanctuary policies, you won't see any state law enforcement cooperating in any way. but i do think we're entering an environment where, in order to sustain a mass deportation effort, you need to feed a large number of arrests. there are ÷7,000 ice officers who are dedicated to immigration enforcement. obviously, they've supplemented this by directing the federal agencies to get involved and deputizing them as immigration. but i think we're going to be in an environment very quickly where a large number of state and local agencies sign on these 287 g agreements, agreements where they can be deputized as federal immigration officers as well, something we saw a lot of in the bush administration and we eliminated during the obama administration due to concerns about how effective they were in civil rights, concerns with how they did the immigration enforcement. but i do think we're headed very quickly to an environment where you can have a lot of sheriffs offices and some local police departments getting in the game, making immigration only arrests, not necessarily criminal arrests with an immigration component. >> what do you think this achieves? do you think that it

deters people who may be thinking about entering the u.s.? >> i think there's a deterrent effect, especially at the border. and i think the calling of the military and those things are going to deter people from crossing. but i do think that there's a larger intent behind some of these things that we're seeing. i think by eliminating the sensitive locations memo and authorizing, you know, creating a perception that they're going to be raids at schools and churches. first of all, i don't expect i.c.e. to do a lot of that. it is no, no good comes out of those types of operations. you get heavily criticized and you're not, you know, you don't find many criminals or gang members in schools or churches. there might be the one off case where somebody seeks shelter there. but but those are very rare. the point, though, is i do think there's a larger goal of deterrence being sent across the country. and i think, you know, behind a lot of this is this that the government's resources might be bigger than they are in order to induce people to leave the country on their own. and i certainly think that's part of

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which is taking the tech industry by storm. the tech heavy nasdaq has been dropping for much of the day, currently down 700 points. a.i. chip maker nvidia, a giant, is also plummeting. you see it there down a whopping 17%. investors are rattled because deep seek says it made a surprise announcement and a surprising advancement, allowing it to match the capabilities of its far more famous and well-known artificial intelligence rivals. but at a fraction of the cost. let's discuss with lance ulanoff. he's editor at large for techradar. lance, thanks so much for being with us. how is deep seek different than openai or some of these other a.i. companies? how did they make these advanced models at a fraction of the cost with inferior chips? >> well, we're. >> taking them at their word. we don't, you know, it's a bit of a black box. they've certainly presented. about a month ago they presented this app. so they have a chat bot and it works

about as well, and sometimes a little bit better than, for example, chatgpt from openai. they say they spent $5.6 million to train their models, which, by the way, sounds like a lot of money, except when you look at the billions of dollars that have been spent and that are going to be spent to train the models from u.s. companies, meta said. they're going to spend like 50, $65 billion. there's $500 billion investment that's happening from the white house. the u.s. government with openai to build stargate. so all of this money flooding in, and then along comes a company from china that says, by the way, we use cheap chips. we've spent barely any money, and we made just as good a.i. but again, you know, first of all, we barely tested this thing. we don't really know if it's that much better. and second of all, we don't really know how they're training their a.i. >> so you're skeptical not only of the performance of the deep sea models, but also the methods by which the company says it got there. is that fair to say?

>> yeah, that's fair to say. and, you know, techradar has actually done some tests, some early tests. but if you can get in, we managed to get into deep sea and we found, yeah, in a couple of cases it did. it did a little better. it certainly has some parity with those. so if we're just judging it on its a.i. capabilities like good job you guys. but again i want to understand how did they train this. which chips did they use and what did they really spend. >> i wonder what the implications are not just for the a.i. industry. as we see stocks taking a dip, but also for u.s. national security. if china begins to outpace american a.i. companies. >> well, so what's really interesting to me is that, you know, it's a chinese company and everybody's jumping to use it. and this has none of the protections, for example, that tiktok built. so we could use that app in the u.s. and it's already struggling to not be banned in this case. if you go to the app store and you download that app, one of the things you'll notice is under deep sea. it's it's chinese language because this is pure

play, a chinese app, which means no protections. chinese government, any prompt you put in there, they can see it. any information you give they keep and it's open to them. so there are significant implications here. and don't expect this app to survive. >> important to point out, it was asked some sort of a politically sensitive you could say questions and the app apparently responded with ccp propaganda. do you think its models could be used as a vehicle for beijing to advance its agenda? >> yeah. i mean, again, that has a lot to do with the interplay. you know, these are conversational ais, right? so it's a question you ask and the results you get. and certainly, you know, because they want, you know, this is a any company that operates in china has to open its data, open all of the work it does to the chinese government. so certainly they want to control the answers that you get. so they could certainly

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a demolition site right now. almost everything is demolished. >> for more on trump's comments and the mass exodus into northern gaza, let's bring in cnn jerusalem correspondent jeremy diamond. jeremy, i wonder how israeli officials are responding to trump's proposals and how it's being received by palestinians. >> well, brianna. >> far right israeli lawmakers like bezalel smotrich, the finance minister, and the former national security minister, itamar ben gvir, they are welcoming these comments by president trump with open arms. and that's because they've been advocating for exactly the same thing for months and months now. for them, it's with the aim of israel ultimately settling the gaza strip, something that the former the biden administration. opposed ardently, which we haven't heard the trump administration weigh in on yet. and ultimately, what trump is saying here is indeed taking a page from the right wing in israel. it raises questions about the mass displacement of palestinian people. it also

raises questions, even about notions like ethnic cleansing. and while trump is saying here that, you know, it would be about incentivizing people to to leave and go to other countries, that he even suggested that it could even be long term. what is important to note here is that this is being roundly rejected by the two countries that he mentioned would potentially take in these palestinians, and that is egypt and jordan, who have both long rejected, even before trump's comments, any notion of displacing palestinians out of gaza. and in hearing from gazans today, and in seeing these pictures of people, tens of thousands of people returning to northern gaza, you can very quickly understand why the palestinian people of gaza would not be interested in moving elsewhere. and that's because you can see the connection and the resolve they have to staying on their land. after months and months of of war and misery. several of them, when asked about these comments today by some of our journalists working in gaza, made very clear that they would not leave the

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trump to install his own people for independent watchdog roles. and it apparently violates federal law, which requires the white house to give congress 30 days notice and substantive rationale for terminating any inspector general. our next guest was among those fired by president trump, hannibal mike ware headed the council of the inspectors general on integrity and efficiency. mike, thank you so much for being with us. first, i want to get your thoughts on president trump's response to questions about these firings. let's listen to this sound bite. >> it's a very common thing to do. some people thought that some were unfair or some were not doing the job. and it's a very standard thing to do. do you. >> plan to bring your. >> own people in those positions? mr. president? >> well, then i might be. i don't know anybody that would do that, but we'll put people in there that will be very good. >> he says some were unfair, some were not doing their job right. >> so i'd. >> like to make it clear that.

>> i am. >> not in opposition. >> to the president in terms of the president's right to remove a sitting inspector general that's been appointed by the president, confirmed by the senate. there's just a way that we go about this to ensure that there is fairness in the process and that our independence is maintained. that is why the act was strengthened just two years ago, to make it clear that 30 days notice, along with a compelling reason, a good reason for removal be provided, what was provided said that we were being removed due to changing priorities of the administration. well, igs are not a part of the administration by design. our role is overseeing how the administration carries out its priorities in accordance with the law. >> so would you say that you do not challenge the president's assertion that as a president, he has the authority to install or put up for confirmation

inspectors general that share his views? >> well, no, i'm not saying that. well, he could install whoever he chooses as long as it's in accordance with the act, which says that it has to be demonstrated proficiency in specific categories like law, like audits, like investigations and everything else. the issue is by completely gutting all the the basically almost all the ig shops of their leadership demonstrates that the independence is being completely removed, that people who are viewed as more like loyalists are being put in position. and even if that's not the case, the way that this is done without a proper notice and with a clear statement that is due to changing priorities of the administration and the administration, no ig has anything to do anything with really muddies the water in terms of ig

independence. >> as you noted, not all the ig's were fired. do you see a pattern in these 18 that he removed? >> i don't see any any pattern. there is no pattern. >> so essentially it was just haphazard. >> i wouldn't say that anything the president does is haphazard. i'm definitely not going that far. sure, sure. but i would say that from what we have looked at as a community, we can't see a reason. and i'll explain why. you have some of the highest, strongest performing igs among this group. for myself, in the last five years alone. there's more than a 50 times return on investment from what we found over the past five years, we've returned physically to the treasury, close to $40 billion, and we have we've we've thousands of of arrests, thousands of ongoing investigations. we have done a stellar job. um, that is the

that is the case with almost all the ig's that have been removed. these people have stood on business. they've done their job in a fair and balanced way that have done wonders for our country. >> i'm curious to get your thoughts on, first, what republican senator lindsey graham said about this. he says that he believes that trump technically violated the law, but he argues that the president had the authority to do that. i imagine that the council is now preparing for some kind of a legal fight. i wonder who adjudicates it. what do you think the arguments might be? >> well, that that is not what the council is after. the council is really not after any type of legal fight or legal battle, right. at this time. what we're after is just a simple adherence to to the law. igs don't operate in a technically right. technically, this or that environment. we operate straight down the middle. the ax is what the act says, and this is not a

technicality. if you're allowed to determine what pieces of the ig act, you will follow the entire act means nothing. because where does it stop? i didn't have to give notice to congress as required by the act, so i don't have to give full and complete and unfettered access to the records in the agency. next, i get to determine which investigations you work and which investigations you don't. we might as well not have an act if that's the case. >> mike, where we have to leave the conversation there. we look forward to having you on again as this process plays out. thanks for joining us. >> thank you very much. >> appreciate it. >> straight ahead. president trump is expected to sign a series of executive orders that could reshape the face of the military, including banning transgender service members altogether. we'll take you live to the white house in just moments not again. >> you're told is coming. your cold is coming. >> thanks, rivera.

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