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amazon bought whole foods workers at a whole foods in philadelphia have just voted to unionize. i'm kate bolduan with john berman. sara sidner is out today. this is cnn news central okay. we are following breaking news continuing this morning about another major move by the white house, a move described by the politico playbook this morning as trump's massive power grab. at stake, potentially trillions in federal grants and loans and aid as the clock now winds down on it all being halted. this could impact millions of americans and millions of people overseas, from disaster aid to small business assistance, to support for charities and food assistance programs. bottom line a lot remains unclear at this hour about just how sweeping the impacts could be, how far this could reach and how
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long it could last. what is clear is that changes are coming. the white house laid it out like this in a memo overnight. the use of federal resources to advance marxist equity. transgenderism and green new deal social engineering policies is a waste of taxpayer dollars. that does not improve the day to day lives of those we serve. green new deal is not a thing. it has not been passed. cnn's alayna treene is live at the white house for us. elena, what more are you hearing about this today? >> well, kate, i mean, this is the latest stunning use of power from president donald trump's white house. with just eight days in to his new administration. in this internal memo circulated by the office of management and budget, it makes clear that they are directing agencies to pause all federal grants and loans effective at 5 p.m. on tuesday. now, as you mentioned, this could impact or this could potentially lead to trillions of dollars in this
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type of funding being paused and impact millions of americans. now, the freeze on federal assistance, as i said, is slated to take effect at 5 p.m. today. that means that a lot of these organizations were given less than 24 hours notice of this pause. and one thing that is clear is that the white house is saying that it's targeting these organizations that they believe may not align with the trump administration's views. as you just read from that internal memo, they said that they described some of these grants as a, quote, waste of taxpayer dollars. now, we did hear from the national, the leader of the national council of nonprofits. they called this a five alarm fire, saying, quote, from pausing research on cures for childhood cancer to halting food assistance, safety from domestic violence and closing suicide hotlines, the impact of even a short pause in funding could be devastating and cost lives. now, we've also heard top democrats on capitol hill ring the alarm on this as well. this is what we heard from senator chuck schumer. he said, quote, if this
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continues, the american people will pay an awful price. now, i do want to be clear here, kate, that the memo does specify that social security and medicare benefits, as well as individual grants and payments to individuals, will not be impacted. but again, it's very clear that this is just the latest move by the trump. administration to to exert control over federal funding, even when congress has already appropriated some of these funds. that is something we've also heard. lawmakers on capitol hill call into question whether or not this is legal and whether or not donald trump has the authority to do this. now, we also know that today at 1 p.m., the white house press secretary, karoline leavitt, has her first press briefing. this is going to be, i think, one of the major questions that she is faced with to answer, you know, try to clarify what is the scope of this, what is the scale of this? these are things that we're hearing from a lot of experts kind of questioning right now, as well as, again, what is the authority that donald trump, the
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president, has to carry this out? >> even if it even if it is the prerogative of the administration to examine and reevaluate where aid goes, knowing the timeline of how long a halt, how long is a pause should be something that the white house can answer before they roll something like this out. it's good to see you, elena. we'll see. john. >> all right. this morning, an unprecedented move against career government officials. the trump administration ordered the removal of a dozen career prosecutors, essentially, for doing their jobs in this case that was investigating donald trump. cnn crime and justice correspondent katelyn polantz joins us now. good morning once again to you, caitlin john, donald trump said. >> he wanted to fire jack smith. that didn't come to pass because smith left the department of justice. so donald trump and his acting attorney general, james mchenry, they got rid of everybody who was working for jack smith, the special counsel on those two criminal cases against donald trump. now, this is highly unusual because
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these were career prosecutors, people who had worked in the department long before smith came into existence as the special counsel worked on many, many cases. the yeoman's work of line attorney. investigations, prosecutions, criminal trials at the doj in the u.s. attorney's offices. those people are fired. now, there are more than a dozen of them affected. from what our sources are telling us and what the memo that was sent to them yesterday from the acting attorney general said, it underlined how this was both personal and political. the quote, you played a significant role in prosecuting president trump. i do not believe that the leadership of the department can trust you to assist in implementing the president's agenda faithfully. so the type of career employees that the department of justice who would have left a special counsel investigation and gone back to their home offices, even in the previous trump years, that's
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what happened after the mueller investigation. those people no longer will be working with the justice department. they will have the opportunity to challenge this firing on an adjudicatory board. the merit systems protection board. or perhaps they will consider bringing a lawsuit. but this is highly unusual and something that many people in the legal community believe may not be justified. if even a viable option for the administration to take against career employees. >> caitlin. the trump administration is taking a different new action vis a vis january 6th as well. what's that? >> yeah, this all broke within about an hour of of each other. yesterday. there was the firing of the smith prosecutors who remained at the department. and then just before that, the u.s. attorney in washington. so the person who is serving as the interim head of the office, that brought more than 1500 cases against capitol rioters, he announced a special project, an investigation into
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the use of a felony charge against those people who were prosecuted by this friday, the interim u.s. attorney in washington, ed martin, said that he wanted files, notes, emails, documents to be sent over to some people in that office so that they could review the use of that charge. this looks like an investigation of the investigators, but how thorough it can be with just a few days notice for the dozens of people that worked on these cases as line prosecutors in this office, that remains to be seen. but this clearly is another message politically, that donald trump and his administration and his department of justice are having a zero tolerance toward january 6th investigations. previously, john. >> does send a message. all right. katelyn polantz, thank you very much, kate. >> so joining us right now to talk more about this is cnn's senior law enforcement analyst, former deputy director of the fbi, andrew mccabe. andy, thank
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you for coming in. let's start with the firings of the firings of the career federal prosecutors. first, just break them into two parts, if you will. what's your reaction to the firings? >> hello, kate. >> you know, i think. >> we've got to stop thinking about these. things in. >> terms of. >> being unprecedented. >> or unusual. >> they are clearly. >> that, but they are much more than that. this is this is damaging to the department. >> of. justice and. >> can undermine its. ability to do justice in criminal cases for the united states of america. these. >> you know. >> our doj functions in. >> ways that. >> we just take for granted. and this. post-watergate era when we have civil service protections for prosecutors, we have, over those decades and decades, cultivated a group of entirely professional, apolitical experts who can who spend their time not working for high paying law firms, but rather prosecuting crimes. national security matters, drug
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matters, human trafficking, sex against, uh, children, all sorts of heinous crimes. and they are protected in their jobs because they simply follow the law and the facts where they are required to go. this is a complete undermining of that system and essentially a return to those pre 1970s days where government jobs were filled by political hacks who simply did the will of the of the administration. that's clearly where the trump administration is trying to take the department of justice. >> it seems very it seems quite straightforward. they're not like hiding or cloaking the intention or the reason behind the firings as well. i mean, one, the bit that sticks out from the acting ag writing, given your significant role in prosecuting the president, i do not believe that the leadership of the department can trust you to assist in implementing the president's agenda faithfully. you're talking about kind of that is impossible, andy, to take this as a singular event. it is a bigger. it is a
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it is a bigger thing. what is the real impact more broadly on the department? other career federal prosecutors who are walking into the building today? >> yeah. so, i mean, obviously this is an opportunity for president trump to kind of exact retribution on the prosecutors he blames for his, you know, miseries of the last four years. but as you said, it's much broader than that. these sorts of actions spread like a virus through the organization. it's a there will be a chilling effect that impacts every other prosecutor in doj, and it enters into their minds for the first time questions about how they should be pursuing their jobs, who they should be investigating, what cases they should be trying to prosecute, and specifically what will happen to them if they pursue some target of an investigation. who happens to be a friend or an affiliate of someone in the white house? you know what's going to happen to my career if i open a political
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corruption case against this republican congressperson or this politician someplace else in the country, those are not considerations right now for federal prosecutors. so they haven't been until these sorts of decisions have started happening. and i would suggest that that is not the department of justice that best serves the united states of america. >> really quickly, on the other element of this, as katelyn polantz said, it came within hours of each other. this special project that the interim acting u.s. attorney ed martin launched a probe into the january 6th prosecutions of the rioters. um, this could very easily be seen as this u.s. attorney is going after to investigate the investigators, which we had heard from donald trump, which we had actually heard declared publicly by the incoming attorney general of the united states as a goal, even though she walked that back in
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confirmation hearings. what do you think of this? >> yeah, well, here you have another another action, as it were, in the same basic campaign like the effect here is to strike fear and concern in the hearts of these prosecutors, thinking that, wow, the decisions i make in an individual case, somebody's going to wind back the time machine and take a look at why i applied a particular statute, and whether or not that could be grounds to fire me or prosecute me criminally. i don't think that there's a realistic option of either of those two things happening. and mr. martin knows that the application of this statute under these circumstances was the policy of the department of justice. it was done under the supervision of these of these folks supervising attorneys. it was entirely consistent with the law when they brought these cases. the law was later changed by the supreme court. but again, this is an effort to it's a shot across the bow to our federal
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prosecutor service in this country that says, you better line up with what the white house wants, not what the law says, not what the facts presented in front of you demand, but with what the white house wants before you start making any decisions in a prosecution. >> let's see what today brings. my goodness, andy mccabe, it's good to see you, andy. thank you very much, john. >> all right. quote. as many as we can arrest and deport in the next year. the new goal from the border czar, as ice rates heat up around the country. and new details this morning about who could be the first foreign leader to visit the president in the white house since he took office. and new data this morning showing some cracks in president trump's base. details on the one issue where they may disagree with him. >> kobe didn't want to be one of the all time greats. he wanted to be the best. >> he may be the one to self-sabotage everything he's ever wanted. >> that's when the black mamba
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people can see you want this to be very much visible. why such a public display, john? >> you know, it's very interesting. i mean, first. >> of all, obviously the reason why is i think the administration wants to draw a lot. >> of attention. >> to these raids and these operations. but what's interesting, john. >> is traditionally. >> you don't. >> want to draw attention. >> to these. >> operations until the operation is complete. and there are two very good reasons for that. the first is officer safety, especially when you're targeting individuals who, you know, who should have a nexus to public safety. you don't want to do anything to tip them where they might be lying in wait for an officer, especially if somebody is doing harm. so one of the real cardinal rules of these types of operations is you don't do the publicity until it's complete. but the second reason is it reduces the effectiveness of the operation. as word gets out that you're targeting individuals with a nexus to the criminal justice system, those individuals tend to disappear. so during the obama administration, when we ran these similar operations, what happens is over time, you start missing more and more of your targets because those
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individuals are no longer in the location that you expect them because they caught wind of the operation. so surprising in a way, from an operational perspective, that they're putting this much publicity on these operations. but politically, i think it makes a little bit of sense why they want to do that. >> so i think in the last year of the biden administration, there were an average of about 300 apprehensions each day. it was a slow start in this new trump administration. but they're now they're now at about 1000 a day. and that's their target. besides the difference in the numbers. john, what do you see as the biggest differences in approach between the two administrations so far? >> well, the biggest difference is clearly the targeting. this administration has lowered the threshold for when, you know, prior to one of these operations, a lot of work goes in behind the scenes. the agency is running records from the criminal justice system, probation and parole records, cross-referencing that against immigration databases to try to identify the targets. this is a tactic that was done throughout i.s.i.s. history, the obama administration and the biden
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administration included. but what happens is, when you're doing that, you set a threshold. what type of crime is a serious crime that we're going to prioritize? are we going to arrest what we call collaterals, individuals that we encounter when we're going after the criminal, who may not have any nexus to the criminal justice system? so the trump administration has lowered the threshold, including individuals charged with less, you know, serious offenses like traffic offenses or people who have not been convicted. secondly, they've been very clear that when they when they go to a house, if they find anybody who's undocumented there, everyone will be arrested, regardless of whether or not they have any nexus to the criminal justice system. >> well, talk to me more about what you just called collaterals, because tom homan said, quote, you know, i don't think we arrested any families. we've arrested public safety threats and national security threats. bottom line. >> yeah. i mean, when you often times when you're doing these operations, you go into, you knock on a door and you're looking for a certain individual, you may or may not find that individual there, but you often find that someone's living with other undocumented people. so group homes are very
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common where you have multiple families living in the same, similar same house. or you might find that person's family unit there. traditionally, during the obama administration, i.c.e. would be we would direct i.c.e. that unless the individual you encounter has a nexus to public safety, you don't take them into custody. you know, this administration has been clear. they are arresting collaterals. john, look, in the coming weeks, we're going to see that data related to who was arrested in these raids. and it will be very interesting to see what types of crimes that people were arrested for and how many individuals were arrested without a nexus to any, you know, any criminal history at all? um, just knowing how ice operations work, knowing the limited number of high value targets that there are, i'm very confident that we'll see a lot of individuals who are arrested after having been charged with or maybe convicted of what would commonly be considered lower level offenses. and a lot of individuals with a lot of these collaterals were arrested. individuals with no nexus to the criminal justice system at all. >> and you think we'll see that data? >> yeah, i think look, historically, ice does release that data, including during the trump administration. and again,
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it's just very illustrative. if you look at the trump administration data, you know, in 2019, prior to covid, they arrested something like 63,000 individuals who were just charged with or convicted of traffic offenses. and the bottom line, john, is, again, there's just not that many of these good targets out there. but but really, that raises another question, which is what's next? and you heard tom homan say this is going to continue. we want to continue at this tempo through the full year, and i'm going to be very interested to seeing what type of targeting, who they start prioritizing after they exhaust this criminal population. this part of it, uh, is the low hanging fruit of the system in a sense, because you can you can just run these records and get good leads of individuals who've been charged with or convicted of a crime. um, but that's the natural place you start. the question becomes, what do you do next? and i saw tom homan say that maybe they're going to focus on fugitives. but you have to remember the fugitive and the immigration context is different than the criminal. this is not someone who's been charged with a crime, but someone who's been ordered to leave the united states by an immigration judge
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and didn't leave, typically not a criminal population at all. >> all right, john, as always, you give us such great information and context. appreciate your time this morning. so this morning, a key vote in one state on a new rule that would allow schools to track the citizenship status of students and their parents. and just tragedy. awful. at a high school track meet when a parent in the stands was accidentally struck and killed by a hammer. >> it's the news. >> welcome back. >> but it's also kind of not the news. >> we don't fact check here. we don't care, man wants all the information. >> on this. >> s >> so terrible. >> have i got news for you returns february 15th on cnn. >> you'll be back. emus can't help people customize and save with liberty mutual. >> kilauea volcano and doug. >> well, i'll. >> be only pay for what you need. >> liberty, liberty, liberty,
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trump's interests, saying it will not negotiate on greenland. so what do americans think about this whole issue? that is not going away? cnn's harry enten is here. he's running the numbers on it. what are you seeing? >> what am i seeing? >> no, no, no. awful awful, awful pressure. denmark to sell us greenland. the u.s. should do it. just 16%. just 16%. 58%. we should not. we should not be pressuring denmark to sell us greenland. i looked at all the polling data. none of it shows anywhere close to a majority of americans who think that we should buy greenland from denmark. look, there are a lot of issues on which the american people are with donald trump on this particular one. they're not even in the same universe as donald trump. basically, uniformity against this, when you just get 16% of the american public agreeing on an issue, you know, it's an unpopular stance to be taken. >> no poll has found that we should buy greenland. >> yes, very, very simple. note i like to make it simple.
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>> sometimes it's very and i appreciate that. so that's overall what about among republicans? >> what about among republicans? you might think that the republican base would be with donald trump. not on this question, not with this particular polling question. pressure denmark to sell us greenland. among republicans, only 30% say we should. 42% say the u.s. should not. so the plurality of republicans are against this. when you get the plurality of republicans, the majority of democrats, the majority of independents, you know, you got an issue in which the american public are on one side. and on this issue, they are on the side of us not pressuring denmark to sell us greenland. >> so does it do i even need to ask, has this changed over time? >> has this changed over time? you know, i was interested to find out that, in fact, this question has been asked before. has been asked before. you know, back in the mid 40s, there was this idea that we should buy greenland from denmark. >> back then? >> harry asked before, in 1947. i mean, that's like. >> yeah, yeah, yeah. >> yeah.
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>> yeah, i mean look, but but again, what you're dealing with a very different situation. and these are actually you know, sometimes these numbers get flipped. this should be flipped. flippity flop a little flippity flop action a little flippity flop. so that's why we get the wall. but the bottom line. >> is the noes are above the yeses. >> the noes are above the yeses. that's exactly right. the bottom line is this we have always had a situation in which the noes held the majority on this question, but on this particular one, the noes even hold a larger one. it's 58%. no, this is we get mathematical lessons on here versus here. it was 38%. no, there we go. we're going to get an end right there. and so this is more unpopular than it's basically ever been. even back in the mid 40s as i become a science teacher here. at what time is it? it's about 830 in the morning here on the eastern time. so my school would be checking in just about. >> now. >> um, you know, the thing i said about thank you for making it simple and easy. i mean. >> sometimes, sometimes, sometimes. >> it. >> happens here. let's go back to here. let's just keep it simple. let's just stay right here.
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the lockerbie story. >> lockerbie, the bombing of pan am flight 103, february 16th on cnn. >> tomorrow. robert f. kennedy jr., one of president trump's most controversial cabinet nominees, is going to be sitting before the senate to begin confirmation hearings. he faces two confirmation hearings ahead of the hearings. more than 15,000 doctors have signed a letter urging senators to vote against confirming him, setting a gross lack of qualifications and calling him, quote, actively dangerous. last month, more than 75 nobel laureates urged against his appointment, saying in part this placing mr. kennedy in charge of the department of hhs would put the public's health in jeopardy and undermine america's global leadership in the health sciences. some republicans in the senate say now that they are looking for. they have questions and they want public commitments from rfk jr.. on his position on vaccines and abortion. here is what louisiana senator john kennedy said. >> well, i don't know what all
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he said about vaccines. he's kind of all over the map. and i'm hoping and i expect, i mean, mr. kennedy is is is not an unintelligent man. that's clear. um, i expect him to address all of these issues head on and tell us, tell the committee and more importantly, uh, the american people in front of god and country, what his position is on vaccines. uh, i, you know, i've read a bunch of different positions. >> joining me right now is doctor paul offit, the director of the vaccine education center, children's hospital of philadelphia. he's also a member of the fda vaccine advisory committee. we've talked many times about your concerns about rfk jr.. and now this week, he is going to face his confirmation hearing. um, they and and this ask and desire from republicans in the senate that they are looking for public commitments from rfk jr on his positions. i want to focus in on vaccines before they can support
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him. what would getting a public commitment from rfk jr. on vaccines do? doctor, would you trust it? >> no. >> he's told you. >> who he is. >> for the last 20. >> years he has said. >> again and. >> again he considers no vaccine to be of benefit. he has said again and again that. >> he thinks. >> the polio vaccine killed, in his words, many. >> many, many. >> more children than it saved. he's told. >> you that he doesn't think hiv is the cause. >> of aids. >> he's told you he. >> thinks that the hepatitis. >> b vaccine. >> doesn't work. he he is. what he. says he's been for. >> the last 20 years. >> why are. they expecting that when he sits in front of them, he's going to be something different no matter what he says. >> the reality is, and why this is very important is, well, for one, vaccine hesitancy amongst the public is a is a real problem and it's growing. i'm going to show some poll numbers that have come in from gallup over the course of time. and
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recently just showing, i mean, look, from 2001 to 2000 to 2000, look at look at from 2001 to 2024. look at how it's highly important to vaccinate children, how that's dropped from 94% to 69% and a bigger drop amongst republicans. and you can look at it from all different angles. and i know you know this because you deal with this every day. and it is a real and growing problem. how big of a problem is this and what impact could a hhs secretary have on that entire concept? >> well, it's already had an impact. you're right. >> the cdc has. >> estimated that more parents are choosing not to vaccinate their kindergartners than ever before. as a consequence, if you look in 2023, we had roughly 5600 cases of pertussis. the following year, we had 32,000, far more than anything we saw pre pandemic. in 2023, we had about 50 cases of measles
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associated with three outbreaks in 2024. last year we had 16 outbreaks associated with almost 300 cases. it's already starting to happen. all rfk jr., with not only his famous name, but now a position at hhs is going to do, is going to be what he's been doing for the last 20 years, which is further misrepresent vaccine safety and efficacy. and our children will suffer that. >> you and thousands of other doctors and scientists who have spent their lives and careers trying to protect children and create safe and effective vaccines, have been raising alarm about rfk for quite some time. but i want to play for you what i just saw just yesterday on what republican senators are likely hearing on fox news, a channel that they will get their news from. i want to play for you. this is a conversation yesterday, a doctor with a doctor and prominent alternative medicine practitioner who's a very good friend of rfk jr.'s. >> i work closely with rfk jr. on this, and i know he's clearly
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in support of vaccines. he's been vaccinated himself. he's vaccinated all of his children. he's not anti-vaccine. he's simply asking for us to look at the data. >> i will reiterate, he has rfk jr. has said in the last year there is no safe and effective vaccine, but that is what republican lawmakers are hearing on a news outlet that they gravitate toward. with that in mind, is there one question that you would ask a senator to consider or ask a senator to ask rfk jr. in vetting him this week? >> yes. here's the question i would ask. you have said that you think no vaccine is safe and effective. you have said that when you see a parent holding a child, when you're on a hiking trail or running path, that you go up to that parent and you say, don't vaccinate this child and you feel that you have saved that child as you've said. so if you had children today, would you vaccinate them according to the routine cdc schedule? and if you would, then why have you
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been saying those things? and if you wouldn't, then which vaccines wouldn't you give and why? >> what are people missing? what are people missing about this? if it is, if, as it is so clear to you, is it is it just the politics of today? is it the famous name when it comes to rfk? what is it i think you should read this book, the real anthony fauci, because between pages 285 and 291, you will find the unifying concept of why rfk jr. says what he says. >> he doesn't believe in the germ theory. he says that he doesn't believe that specific germs like viruses or bacteria, cause specific diseases, and that the prevention or treatment of those viruses or bacteria can be life saving. he doesn't believe that. so if you don't believe that, then you can see why he wouldn't believe that any vaccine is safe and effective. i mean, this isn't just some alternative theory about infectious diseases. this is a man who, at some level, i think has lost touch with reality. >> doctor paul offit, thank you,
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as always for coming in. i appreciate your time. john. >> happening soon. oklahoma's board of education will vote on a measure that would require families to report their immigration status when enrolling their children in school. cnn law enforcement correspondent whitney wild is with us on this. good morning. whitney, what's this all about? >> well, john. the oklahoma board of education. proposal proponents say. >> is more. >> about data collection. >> and it. >> is not. >> about immigration enforcement. >> for example, here's a. >> quote from this proposal. >> nothing in this. section shall. be construed. >> to prohibit. >> or inhibit any child from receiving the education. >> they are. >> entitled to receive. >> the concern. >> here, john. >> is that by. >> requiring parents or legal guardians. >> to provide proof. of citizenship. status or legal. >> citizenship status, that that is going to have. >> a massive. >> chilling effect. and people who are highly skeptical that the intention of this is actually what's going to play out on the ground.
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>> are very. >> concerned that students are going to stop showing up to school. here's what some oklahoma teachers said about this proposal earlier this month. >> i cannot fathom what the purpose is for this, except to try and keep students out of. >> school. >> in our. >> classroom. >> we don't ask, where. >> are. you from. >> to deter anyone from learning. we ask so we can figure out how to. >> better serve. each and. >> every single student, right? that. >> however. >> doesn't seem to be the. >> intention of this proposed policy. >> we know that. >> when alabama. >> passed legislation nearly identical to this rule that required schools to collect and report on student national origin, hispanic enrollment plummeted and absenteeism surged. >> john, the. proposal makes clear that the intention here is to collect this information and provide the data to the oklahoma board of education without any personal identifying information. but even still, john, again, a lot of skepticism that that is actually what's going to happen, especially heightened concern. john, when you consider the trump
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administration has lifted a policy that effectively banned i.c.e. from operating in schools, a lot changing here in the immigration space, a lot of concern here. and we will see where the oklahoma board of education falls on this proposal later today. john. >> all right. that happens today. we will be watching whitney wild. thank you very much, kate. >> more than 100 migrants from guatemala are now back in their home country. they were on board a u.s. military plane that landed in guatemala city just yesterday. one of the migrants now tells cnn that he had been living in the united states for nearly 19 years. cnn's david culver has exclusive new reporting from the tarmac. when they arrived. >> stepping. >> off a commercial charter. >> and onto guatemala city's military. >> tarmac. 124 migrants deported for illegally. >> entering the u.s. >> now back home, they. >> processed past. >> officials. >> including the country's vice president, and into a reception hall. cookies and coffee await. one by one. >> they're called.
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>> up to be officially documented. >> now. >> that's a change from their status. >> in the u.s. >> she lived ten years. >> in the. >> u.s. in alabama. she did. >> roofing. >> construction and car repair while in the u.s. here we meet. sara tot-botoz at 43. she says she. >> carries a criminal record. >> related to. >> child endangerment. >> she was shopping at walmart to. with her. >> grandson. >> and she. said he didn't have. >> a car. >> seat, and she was pulled over as she was leaving the walmart by a police officer in alabama. she went to. >> jail for two months. >> and. >> was detained for five more months, she says, by immigration officials in louisiana. >> before being. >> sent back. >> here in guatemala. >> she's actually. >> grateful. >> thanking god for being back. >> but regresar a los. >> estados unidos. do you want to go back to the u.s.? no. >> yeah. no, no. yeah. >> no. >> sara. seemingly uncomfortable though, speaking with us
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in. >> what. >> she's wearing, she's eager to get to her. >> bag. >> which. >> sits in a pile. >> of plastic sacks and stapled shut. and as she heads into the bathroom to change, we. >> meet. >> fidel ambrocio. so how many years altogether did you live in the u.s.? >> almost 19 years. 19 years? yes. i'm scared, because now the trump, they say they have to go. you know, go with a criminal. but we're not a criminal. you know. >> but but. >> you have a trespassing conviction. >> yes. >> are you going to try to stay here or do you think you'll go back? >> i have to go back for sure. >> you'll find a way back. yes. while fidel walks freely here, others are pulled aside by guatemalan police as soon as they arrive, accused of crimes not only in the u.s., but also here in. their homeland. they require a lot of resources so as to reintegrate the returnees. >> with the momentum. no hay una diferencia. >> guatemala's vice president
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tells me. it's about the same number, though, that have been arriving in recent years under president biden, though she says the use of u.s. military planes, which guatemala is permitting, is new under president trump. back in the reception hall, we almost don't recognize sara. she's changed into her indigenous wardrobe and feels more at home now, ready to step. >> out. la salida no tiene mi hija. mi amor por aqui lado. >> reunite with her daughter. obviously, there's a lot of emotion in that moment between sara and her daughter, and i asked both of them if they have any interest for sara to go back to the u.s., or for her daughter to go for the first time. and they were adamant they do not want to go. and it seems that in many ways it tends to echo what the trump administration is hoping to put out there, and their messaging from these deportations in part, and that is a deterrence factor to keep people from wanting to go into
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this trip be so important to netanyahu? why would he be eager to be the first? >> well, there's no. >> question that the israeli prime minister has always valued. >> a relationship with the u.s. president. it's been a cornerstone of of kind of how he presents himself to the israeli public as the guy who can get what he needs out of the united states and maintain that important security relationship. today, though, the israeli prime minister has even more incentives to get along with president trump. first of all, there are the domestic political aspects. his right wing governing coalition has been a little bit more fragile lately. following the resignation of the national security minister, itamar ben-gvir, over going into this ceasefire agreement, he nearly faced another defection from the finance minister, bezalel smotrich. and so a strong relationship with trump certainly gives him bonafides with the right wing in israeli politics. and then, of course, there are foreign policy goals that the israeli prime minister wants to achieve, such as perhaps carrying out strikes
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against iran and trying to get the u.s. green light to go after iran's nuclear facilities in the future. but president trump is also going to be looking to gain something out of this meeting as well. and one of those aspects, of course, is questions over the future of the cease fire agreement. we've heard president trump in the past raising questions about whether or not the cease fire agreement would actually be able to last past the six weeks of this initial first phase of this agreement. we know that president trump's envoy to the middle east, steve witkoff, is going to be in israel this week, tomorrow, in fact, meeting with the israeli prime minister, laying the groundwork for that potential visit, but also laying the groundwork for what comes next in the cease fire agreement, which is on day 16. negotiations resuming between israel and hamas via the mediators about the future of this agreement and whether or not it can be extended beyond the six weeks to get the rest of the hostages out, and also to end the war in gaza. john. >> all right. jeremy diamond for us in tel aviv. jeremy, thank you very much, kate.
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>> so the new documentary, super man, the christopher reeve story, airs this sunday on cnn. and it looks at the huge impact that reeve had on so many lives after his spinal cord injury. in cnn's dr. sanjay gupta explores how his advocacy is still impacting lives today. >> you're watching. >> 18 year old brandon. >> simmons first time back. >> in public since last november. that's when a car accident left. >> him. >> with a. >> c5 spinal. >> cord injury. >> i was excited to get out because that was my first trip. but also, i was kind of afraid because i didn't know how i was going to be my first time being in a wheelchair, out in public, and how people were going to look at me. >> that's okay. you're allowed to. >> have a bag. >> okay, okay. >> you just have. >> to say it's medically necessary. >> yes, ma'am. >> but that is exactly why. >> the. >> shepherd's center here in. >> atlanta uses. >> outings like these. >> to help people.
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>> reintegrate back into daily life. >> and navigate physical. >> spaces in a new way. >> in public places. >> there has to be an accessible entrance. >> today, he has the help of avery blankenburg. a recreation therapist. >> we get. >> our patients. >> out here in the aquarium specifically. >> because one they. have to. >> navigate crowds. >> the more. >> comfortable they can get. >> out and about. >> then the more. >> they'll likely. >> do it at home. >> this is an accessible. >> mat so. >> that wheelchair users can get up to the front. >> i was thinking like people were going to look at me different, but it's just. >> yeah. >> it feels the same. >> but nearly. 35 years ago, this would have been more. >> challenging. >> look at that tail. >> i know. >> or even nearly impossible. >> i now lift my pen to sign this. americans with disability act. >> but in 1990s. >> the americans with disabilities act, the ada set out to change that. >> everybody is looking for a hero. >> and it would. >> soon find a champion. >> a hero. >> who. >> like brandon.
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>> had to adapt to a new way of life. >> it must. >> be honored everywhere. it is a civil rights law that is tearing down barriers, both in architecture and in attitude. >> we internalized it. >> when we tried to go out with our dad. >> to restaurants. >> for dinner, and he couldn't. >> get in the door. >> because the restaurants hadn't. >> adapted yet. >> alexandra reeve is christopher's daughter. >> our dad fought really hard to kind of put a human face on that and help people connect to it. >> the americans with disabilities act, what is it today versus what was it intended to be? >> i think. >> the reality is the ada is about a lot more than just the accessibility of buildings. what it really needs to continue being is people, when they're hiring folks for a job, or insurance companies when they're thinking about whether or not they're covering someone's physical therapy. there's so many different ways that these barriers manifest that end up holding people back unnecessarily, just because others aren't necessarily thinking about how it's going to impact them. >> but the impact for someone
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like brandon, is very real. >> my dad always told me, don't ever say you can't do anything. you can always do something. it just may take time. >> doctor sanjay gupta, cnn reporting. >> that's an amazing human right there. doctor sanjay gupta, thank you so much for bringing us that. and you can tune in to the now bafta nominated documentary super man. the christopher reeve story, airing sunday at 8 p.m. eastern and pacific on cnn. a new hour of cnn news central starts now. a potential five alarm fire. that is what nonprofits are saying today, as the trump administration makes its latest move, suddenly halting all federal grants, loans and financial assistance. we're talking trillions of dollars and millions of americans impacted. and is this what retribution looks like? donald trump from the campaign trail promised it

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