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the government programs that are possibly in jeopardy. federal assistance for needy families, plus trump's retribution. dozens of officials who worked on criminal investigations that the president now fired. and january 6th prosecutors are now being investigated themselves. and right now in kansas, a potentially historic tuberculosis outbreak. this latest on the unprecedented public health risk. good morning. you are live in the cnn newsroom. i'm jim acosta in washington. we begin the hour with cnn's phil mattingly, who joins us now. phil, this is a stunning coming in from the trump administration. a pause on federal grants and loans. what does it all mean? >> yeah, it's, uh, honestly, that's the question. a lot of people who administer these loans and administer get these these grants out the door were asking last night. that's how surprised people were. look, we have seen a number of pauses,
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particularly on foreign assistance, on issues related to the executive orders that president trump has signed in the initial days in office. but this is so wide ranging and so large scale that i think a lot of people last night, including some career officials in the omb, were trying to figure out exactly what they were going for. and the reason why is this the actual two page memo that was put out and signed by the acting director wasn't exactly clear on the scope of what this order is going to do. here's what we know at this point in time, from talking to probably more than a dozen people over the course of the last 12 hours, all loans and grants from the federal government. federal assistance will be paused. we're talking about rental assistance, school breakfast and lunch programs, head start, federal grants for water infrastructure. what is not included in this is social security payments, medicare payments. and according to the memo, any payments to individuals, they don't really define that much further. but the reality right now is there are lawmakers and constitutional lawyers who are saying you shouldn't be able to do this. this should be illegal. this isn't under your authority. and
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the administration very clearly moving forward with this review. >> all right, phil mattingly, thank you very much. i want to go now to congressman mike quigley of illinois. congressman, good to have you on this morning. i do want to ask you about the immigration crackdown that's in full force right now. we're going to talk about that in just a moment because it's happening in your state. but i do want to ask you about phil mattingly and what he was just saying a few moments ago about all of these federal assistance programs that are apparently being frozen. we're not getting a whole lot of information from the administration at this point. but, you know, if i can ask the control room to put that graphic back up on the screen that was showing some of these programs that might be impacted potentially, i believe we're talking about head start school breakfast and lunch programs. my goodness, congressman, these are programs for needy kids for hungry kids. we're going to stop giving kids a breakfast. we're going to stop giving kids a lunch when they need one. that sounds outrageous. >> you know, it is. i can't imagine this is what the american people wanted. when
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president trump said he had a mandate. kids not eating isn't a part of any deal. kids being part of a political pawn game. i was just at a food pantry last week where among the concerns of food security is the cuts that are being proposed now, a delay and programs that are barely scraping by and long term threats of this. and there was a sign on the door talking about ice agents coming. and we're hearing that people are afraid to go to social service agencies because they're afraid they might get scooped up, or their kids might get scooped up. it is the agents of chaos and fear, and it's having its effect. >> well, you mentioned those ice raids that are happening right now. our understanding is that the homeland security secretary has been participating in some of these raids. what's your response to that? >> look, the biden administration averaged about 300 arrests a day of
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of people with criminal convictions. no one has a problem with that. the migrant community is about 40% likely to less likely to commit crimes. um, but if they do, then they should be held accountable, just like anyone else. but what we're talking about here is mass arrest of people who are simply undocumented. 11 million people are under target. so again, we have people afraid to go to work, afraid to go to school, churches, any places where there's gathering. we have neighborhoods being referred to as ghost towns. this won't help who we are as a country. it certainly won't help our our economy. and it's a real problem that we're facing, not just here but across the country. >> and congressman, over the weekend, we saw talk show host doctor phil, of all people, posting videos of himself participating in a ride along with immigration agents in chicago. it looks like this is turning into a dog and pony show.
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>> yeah. when ice agents are told to wear clothes appropriate for television, uh, and doctor phil talked about it doing for transparency. look, if we're going to talk about transparency, don't in the same week get rid of all the inspectors general with more to come. this is an opaque, opaque administration the first four years beginning that way. um, the beginning of this administration as well. >> and i do want to ask you about some of the efforts underway inside the trump administration to go after people inside the justice department, apparently firing prosecutors who worked on the jack smith case. and so we're going to talk about this with evan perez in just a moment. it sounds like when donald trump was out on the campaign trail saying, i am your retribution. he meant it. it sounds like we are in the middle of his retribution campaign. what's your response? >> yeah, so much for an independent law enforcement. the clearly the first trump administration wanted to go
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after their enemies. they wanted to overturn a lawful election. and if it wasn't for some brave people in the justice department back then, they might have been able to do just that. so we're seeing it at the beginning of this administration. what i fear is that president trump imagines he's not going to make the same mistake. he's going to be more emphatic than ever. he's going to go after people who he sees as enemies, and he's going to use the justice department as a weapon. so look out below. it's a great concern. he's not going to bring on anybody who isn't a total sycophant in those spots, and it's a real concern for the rule of law. >> well, congressman, he's out there joking at events that he's going to run for a third term. what do you think of that? >> yeah, absolutely nothing surprises me. what i told people during the campaign cycle was when an autocrat tells you what he's going to do, believe him. right? he's already attempted
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to invalidate the constitution and the 14th amendment and, you know, i appreciate the fact that a federal judge struck that down. but obviously, he's appointed a lot of judges who will do his bidding. my concerns are the supreme court, uh, in an extraordinary moment in history, will agree with him on one of these egregious ideas. and our constitution will be very vulnerable from then on. >> yeah. and based on my experience covering trump, he doesn't tell a lot of jokes. i should clarify that. so we're not sure exactly what he meant by all that. but in the meantime, congressman mike quigley, democrat of illinois, thank you very much for your time this morning. we appreciate it. as i mentioned this morning, we're getting a clearer picture of how trump's retribution agenda is impacting the justice department. more than a dozen officials who investigated the president have been fired. so now there is a special investigation into prosecutors involved in the january 6th cases. can you keep up with that? let's talk about this more now. joining me now, cnn
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senior justice correspondent evan perez and cnn senior legal analyst elie honig. evan, what has the acting attorney general said about these firings? i mean, is he literally are they literally firing these people? is that what's happening? >> they are firing these people. and one of the things that they're saying is that the reason is and they're saying this in the letters that they that they sent out, that it is because they were working on cases prosecuting donald trump when donald trump was not in office. and, you know, again, the new administration took office vowing to end weaponization of the justice department. if you ask the people who received these and they would receive these firings, they think that this is what this is. i'll read you just. >> think this is weaponization. >> this is right. this is now the the acting attorney general, emil bove. uh, i'm sorry, he's the deputy attorney general. he said this is what he says in his letter. you played a significant role in prosecuting president trump. the
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proper functioning of government critically depends on the trust superior officers place in their subordinates. it says. given your significant role in prosecuting the president, i do not believe that the leadership of the department can trust you to assist in implementing the president's agenda faithfully. now, of course, the justice department is a part of the the executive branch. they are supposed to follow the orders of the president. but there's also traditionally been a level of independence, so that you make sure that whatever justice is being meted out from the justice department is not politicized. and that's traditionally what has happened in democratic and republican administrations. that is clearly a break with that tradition in this. if you read this letter. >> yeah. elie, what do you think is going on here? i mean, they they complained a lot inside trump world about weaponization of the justice department, weaponization of the government. this sounds like weaponization. >> well, jim, there's two things about this that strike me as especially unusual. first of all, it is perfectly normal and
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acceptable for a new presidential administration to fire the political appointees of the prior administration, the attorney general, the deputy ag, and the u.s. attorneys. but these people have been fired here, are not political people. they are longtime career, nonpolitical doj prosecutors like i once was. the other thing is, if you look at the letter, there's no substantive reason offered. usually if you're going to fire somebody, you say you've engaged in misconduct. you've you've performed poorly here. the letter, it's just a very blunt one page. it just says you participated in the prosecution of donald trump. therefore you have offended us. therefore you are out of here. so it's really pretty obvious, i guess give them credit for making no pretext about the motivation here. >> yeah. evan, we're also learning about a special project being undertaken by the interim u.s. attorney in d.c., ed martin, who was just appointed last week. apparently, he has a history with the stop the steal movement. what's going on here? >> well, he says that he's launching a project which is
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essentially the first step of the investigation of the investigators. now, what he's focusing on is the 1512 charge of obstruction of justice charge that was brought against people who rioted at the capitol. it was also brought against donald trump. if you remember, the supreme court last summer invalidated or at least limited how the justice department can use that charge. and so as a result, they're they're having to pare back on some of these charges in the january 6th cases. that, of course, is before the pardons. and what martin is saying is that he is asking for all documents, all emails, everything to be preserved. and they've assigned a prosecutor to start doing a review of this, to see, to get to the bottom of it is what he says. now that's it's very odd. it's not a very it's not normal for you to to launch an investigation without first identifying that there is some kind of wrongdoing in this case, this law was being applied like this
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over over decades. and it was just until the supreme court decided that they needed to restrict it, that the policy changed. right. and so if you're if you're a prosecutor, the justice department, you i assume you would have been following the rules in good faith until the supreme supreme court changed the enforcement of that. >> and, ali, i mean, let's listen to this or look at this. a career doj official tells politico this it feels like a nonviolent war. it's just wild. everybody is a sitting duck, and these people have no power or control over the situation. people are just in a state of shock and devastated. it's unlike anything i've ever seen. nothing that happened during the first trump administration came anywhere close to this. ellie, this sounds like a purge. it sounds like the purge is on. >> well, a lot of this is certainly unprecedented, including going back to the first trump administration. i mean, if we think back four years ago, right now, almost to the day, within a few weeks is when robert mueller was appointed to investigate donald trump. now, however, that case was received. it was ultimately
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allowed to play out to its ultimate end. now, what we're talking about with this other story, this idea of a special project to investigate some of the january 6th prosecutors, that's not a thing. that's just a made up term, a special project. they just came up with that title and slapped it on it. there's no legal significance to that. what's happening here, though, is essentially doj lost a legal argument in the supreme court. the supreme court said, well, the obstruction statute that was used to charge a bunch of these january 6th rioters should not have applied to this specific circumstance. but that was a good faith legal argument that people have been kicking that back and forth in good faith on both sides of this for many years now, and the fact that doj loses an argument in the appeals court to the supreme court has never before been used as a basis to. well, let's now investigate the people who made this good faith argument and happened to lose. i mean, if that was the case, we'd have doj prosecutors being investigated all the time for simply going into court and getting the the losing end of a decision. so
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that's what's so unusual about this particular move. >> and real quick. yeah. yeah, sure. >> yeah. just one quick addition. i would say that it's not just, you know, sort of perceived liberals that are being targeted in this, in this purge. it's like you have people who are appointed by bill barr, who are in career positions inside the justice department. i know people who are republicans probably voted for trump, who got removed simply because their, their, their names are attached to a filing that had to do with the president. and so that's what's going on. i'm hearing from conservatives, people who served in the department who are very, very puzzled about how these people got placed on the on hit lists. so it's not just like, you know, again, the normal careers that that republicans tend to have a problem with, even conservatives are getting targeted. >> all right. puzzling indeed. troubling as well. all right, ellie and evan, thank you both very much. we'll be right back. >> this part changed my life. >> superman is now nominated for
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and this administration is really hurting hard working americans. the actions are causing chaos. i can't tell you how many calls i've had, you know, from mayors, from colleagues, et cetera. of what what, what what, what is going on. and when you ask the agency what funding is safe, their response is we don't know. and if they don't know, then nothing is safe and nothing is safe. you should know. i'm going to make a point to you, jim, that. but that's not really. he is breaking the law. this is the appropriations committee has voted bipartisan house, senate signed by the president. and this is law. and he's taking it into his hands to thwart that system. and he will continue to do it. but your point is and my point is, how is it affecting americans? and you highlighted some. i am now sitting for this interview in a title one school district. and that takes care of three a
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schools in my in my community. i'm about to speak to kids here this morning. and what does it mean if the title one funds are frozen? that means that teachers don't get paid. you talked about head start. it's child care. it is the after school programs and more examples. snap food benefits so families can feed their children. the wick program, which deals with women, infants and children. housing and programs that deal with housing assistance, veterans writ large, homeless provider grants for them. there is nursing home care, transportation programs, suicide prevention programs. you know, i can go on and on. jim, this is reckless. reckless in terms of the services that the federal government provides to hard
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working americans. and my constituents, my my, uh, constituents, you know, who are going to be hurt. and this is in every city and town across this country, and it is in violation of the law, in violation of the constitution. >> well, and you and senator patty murray of washington state wrote a letter to the white house saying, quote, we can put this on screen. we write today to urge you in the strongest possible terms, to uphold the law and the constitution and ensure all federal resources are delivered in accordance with the law. and i guess you touched on this earlier, congresswoman, and for the folks at home, maybe help me explain this. when the congress passes something, when they appropriate money to certain programs and that is signed into law by the president. and yes, that may have been joe biden. now there's a new president here. another president can't come in and just say, well, we're throwing stuff out the window here. wouldn't you have to pass yet another law and have that law signed by the new president?
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if you want to get rid of head start and food stamps and all of those things, president trump, you got to do this through the proper methods. >> you know? absolutely. it's spot on. this was appropriate. that means the funds are there. it's now the agencies have to carry that mandate out. and that is their responsibility by law is to carry out these programs. and so they flying in the face of, of the law and of the constitution, because it is congress who has the power of the purse, of expending the money. now they can question and so forth. but freezing it all, as i said, the effects of that, and that's what people need to know. this is not i don't want to make constitutional arguments. that's not what people need to hear. people need to know how this is going to affect their family, their kids and their way
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of life. what are we about here? >> well, and. >> that's what hurting people. >> i was told by all the smart people in washington that this election was about putting food on the table, the price of groceries, the price of eggs and meat and potato type issues. this is talking about taking meat and potatoes from the kids. this is about taking food off the table. >> off the table. it's right. and you know, when they talk about energy programs, you know, one of the programs there was the rebate program for put money directly back into the hands of families, if in fact, they deal with improving their homes and and be able to save money with regard to to energy, the program, there was set to to to save households up to $1 billion per year on their energy bills. so this is contrary, contrary to what the election was about. and that's the cost of living. and what it
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really flies in the face of everything that for those who voted for president trump, it flies in the face of what he told them that he was about. and he was going to do. this is an about face and it will hurt people and american families enormously. >> all right. congresswoman rosa delauro, thank you very much for your time. we appreciate it. give those kids in connecticut our best. thank you. we're following breaking news, consumer confidence dropping by more than five points in january. we'll talk about that. >> next. >> welcome back. >> have i got news for you returns february 15th on cnn. >> hi, susan, honey. yeah, i respect that, but that cough looks pretty bad. try this. robitussin, honey. >> the real honey you love. plus the powerful cough relief you need. >> mind if i root through your trash? >> robitussin. the only brand with true source certified honey. >> want the fastest working glp one for half the price? ron rowe
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>> all right, some breaking news to tell you about the latest consumer confidence report is out. the numbers are not good. let's go to cnn's vanessa yurkevich with more on that. vanessa. >> yeah. good morning jim. the conference board puts out these numbers every single month. and looking back at january, people are still feeling very sour about the economy despite a new administration in the white house. that's the top line number there. consumer confidence really plummeting 5.4% in the month of january, followed by consumer confidence weakened the month before in december. but you want to look at where people feel about things right now and where they think things are going. so the present index is down 9.7%. that was the steepest drop of all five components that this report looks at. and then if you look at where people think things are going, they also think that the economy is not moving in a great direction, down 2.6%. and there's a couple factors. why, jim, the first one is that people are concerned about the
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labor market despite really strong jobs growth. they're also concerned about business conditions, concerns about income. are there wages going to rise in line with inflation. and the big part of this report that we're seeing is americans still very concerned about inflation. in fact, they expect it to rise in the next six months. and that could be some of the concerns that people have about the trump administration and some of these economic policies that they're putting into place, like tariffs. just a point of good news, though, jim. people do not think a recession is coming. and also people are feeling pretty good about the stock market still. and also, despite everything i just mentioned, consumers in this report say they're still planning to spend. but jim, this is always a really good report to look at because what it shows is how people are truly feeling about the economy, despite all the numbers that we report, which really does paint a very healthy economy, people still feeling really beat down by the past couple of years with
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high inflation, the expectation that interest rates are going to rise, and the uncertainty about the future. people like to feel really secure. and this report shows, jim, that they're not feeling very secure about the economy right now. and even looking forward into the next six months. jim. >> yeah, vanessa, we were just showing the latest at the dow right now, and it looks as though there isn't a whole lot of concern in the market after that tech sell off that we saw yesterday with some very popular stocks like nvidia and so on. i suppose that might be kind of a good sign at this point. but you're right. when consumer confidence drops like that, that that is that's going to cause some nervousness. i have to think. >> yes, certainly. you know, you have to think about the stock market being a little separate from main street and how people maybe are feeling. most americans don't play in the stock market, but of course, the stock market is very fickle. it can go down one day and recover the next. but how people feel, they're still holding on to that bad feeling about the economy. jim. >> all right. vanessa yurkovich, thank you so much. coming up,
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very low risk to the general public, including the surrounding counties. do you agree with that assessment? what do you make of this tb outbreak that we're seeing right now? it is concerning. >> well, it is concerning locally. this is going to be a local phenomenon, jim. and as you know, tb is caused by a bacteria that principally involves the lung. and it usually is transmitted person to person with prolonged contact. so we'll find all the cases and then the local and state health departments with cdc assistance will go out and get all the contacts of those positive cases and test them. if they test positive, we can treat them with drugs so that they won't get sick. and if there are people who don't have insurance, the drugs will be provided for them by the local health department. so health departments know how to deal with tb. this is a local
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phenomenon. uh, we don't know the. populations exactly affected. the news reports have been kind of scarce, but i am absolutely confident that the local health departments have this under control and will get to the edges of all this pretty quickly. >> and, doctor schaffner, i mean, help me out here because i remember during the covid scare, the concern was somebody would have it get on a plane, could spread it around at the airport or wherever they go off to. could that happen with this tb outbreak in kansas? somebody could not know that they have it. go to the airport, go to another city, spread it around an airport. or we talk about two very different things that we shouldn't worry ourselves about this. >> they're very, very different. a covid is spread rather readily by the respiratory route. if you're close to other people. tb takes much longer to be transmitted, but if there are local people in those local communities who are concerned and they go out into the public, well, put on your mask, you'll
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be protected against tb and you'll also have some protection against flu, which is out there everywhere still. >> all right, doctor schaffner, thank you very much. and we do want to tell you that happening right now up on capitol hill. the senate minority leader, chuck schumer, is holding a news conference. he was just talking about trump's federal aid freeze a few moments ago. he had some comments about this blasting the president. let's take a listen to what the senator had to say just a few moments ago. >> look, last. >> night. >> president trump plunged the country into chaos without a shred of warning. the trump administration announced a halt to virtually all federal funds across the country in an instant. donald trump has. >> shut off. >> billions. >> perhaps trillions. >> of dollars that directly support states, cities, towns, schools, hospitals, small businesses, and
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most of all, american families. this is a dagger at the heart of the average american family in red states and blue states, in cities, in suburbs, in rural. >> areas. >> it is just outrageous funds for things like disaster assistance, local law enforcement, rural hospitals, aid to the elderly, food for people in need. >> all are. >> on the chopping block. in this new administration. >> why they. >> need tax cuts for the ultra wealthy and these cuts they think will fund them. every one of our offices has been deluged with calls from people who are in panic. what is this going to mean? what if i have a hospital that has people on life. >> support? >> what are we going to do? and
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of people who are undocumented. we've got about 50,000 people. but this is a community that's very much part of the daily life, the daily fabric of what it means to be el paso. um, our community pays our undocumented community. they pay over $70 million in taxes. um, 70% of them have been here for more than ten years, and many for more than 20 years. 1 in 3 of them have a u.s. citizen child. so if we saw increase in immigration enforcement here in el paso, something like mass deportations, it would be an economic catastrophe. it would be a moral catastrophe, and it would be a social catastrophe. >> and, dylan, what does this mean for families with both documented and undocumented loved ones? people might be unaware of this, but there are many mixed status families in this country. what about them? >> that's true. there are mixed status families across the country. there are mixed status families here in el paso. that means that if we see increased deportations, we're going to see families affected. this is
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going to be something that strikes at the heart of families across the country. these are people who study children, who study in our schools, parents who pick their children up at schools. you know, last week we saw something that really strikes at the heart of what it means to be a community here in el paso. when the administration reversed what's called the sensitive locations policy. and what that's done is restrained, unnecessary immigration enforcement in places like schools, in places like churches, and in places like hospitals. and that is, you know, that's a direct attack on families, that's a direct attack on parents and children, a direct attack on people who are sick, who are trying to get health care, who need health care, who don't want to, who don't want to be contagious in our community. and it's a direct attack on people going to church. so we've already seen the initial pieces of what could be an increased enforcement campaign here in the borderlands as well as throughout the country, but it's something that's going to hit us. it's something that's going to hit the country. and i'm not sure that people are fully aware of what the consequences are going to be economically, socially, it's a real attack.
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>> yeah. i mean, we were talking about this with congressman mike quigley at the top of the hour. he's in chicago, and he was concerned about people not going to kids not going to school because of fear, people not going to work because of fear. and i suppose one of the unintended consequences or perhaps intended consequences of this is to drive people into the shadows. >> i think that's true. i think that's exactly what the administration is trying to do. you've seen high profile raids, workplace raids, raids in neighborhoods across the country, in places like newark and chicago, and that's what they're trying to do. they may not have the resources right now to do full scale mass deportations, but what they're doing is trying to do highly publicized events which are meant to drive fear into the immigrant community. and that's what people are feeling. that's what people are feeling here in el paso. our neighbors are feeling that that's that's the point of this, you know, as as others have said, cruelty is the point with these immigration policies. it's going to affect our country in negative ways. and we've already begun to see the impact here in el paso.
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people are afraid. people, as you said, are afraid to send their children to schools, afraid to go to church. you know, el paso is also a community that still goes to church. and last week we also saw officials like tom homan, you know, they attacked pope francis, they attacked the catholic church over the weekend. the vice president attacked the u.s. conference of catholic bishops just for defending migrants. this is vile. people think this is despicable. and there's a lot of fear and anxiety in our families that is really unnecessary. >> and asylum seekers are arriving at the border and finding it essentially sealed. are you concerned about the desperation of some of these asylum seekers, and what does it say about this country? because, i mean, my father is a cuban migrant on my mother's side. you have people who immigrated to this country. this country has always been a beacon of hope through its immigration system, through immigration. >> that's right. the u.s. is a country of migrants. migration is part of what makes our country strong. what you need at the border basically is a couple of things. you need legal
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pathways. people who need to migrate, vulnerable people. we have to have legal pathways by which they can migrate so that they're not pushed into the deserts and dying. they're not pushed into the hands of cartels and people who would exploit them. and you also need a functioning, clear, transparent system for asylum at the border. towards the end of the biden administration, we began to get that with things like cbp. one. and actually the numbers of people arriving at the border began to plummet. the biden administration handed off to the trump administration the lowest numbers of arrivals in years. but on day one, trump blew up that whole system. he blew up the legal pathways. he got cbp one. and so now there's effectively no system. there's no way for asylum seekers to access protection here in el paso or along the border. and these actions risk plunging the border back into chaos. >> all right, dillon corbett, thank you very much for your time. we appreciate it. >> good to. >> be with you. good to be with you. and i just wanted to end today's show by thanking all of the wonderful people who work behind the scenes at this
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network. you may have seen some reports about me and the show, and after giving all of this some careful consideration and weighing an alternative time slot, cnn offered me, i've decided to move on. i am grateful to cnn for the nearly 18 years i've spent here doing the news. people often ask me if the highlight of my career at cnn was at the white house covering donald trump. actually, no. that moment came here when i covered former president barack obama's trip to cuba in 2016 and had the chance to question the dictator there, raul castro, about the island's political prisoners. as the son of a cuban refugee, i took home this lesson. it is never a good time to bow down to a tyrant. i've always believed it's the job of the press to hold power to account. i've always tried to do that here at cnn, and i plan on going doing all of that in the future. one final message don't give in to the lies. don't give in to the fear. hold on to the truth and to hope.
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