organized this week in their lines of questioning than they did when hegseth first came up. and i thought that rfk really just fumbled his answers, both with republicans and democrats. and look, i think everybody can agree that our health care is in crisis. there are a lot of problems that need to be fixed. i just don't think the democrats, and it clearly seems that some republicans think that he is the one to fix it. and and it is scary that the person who is out there making these comments about our health care system is apparently taking nicotine while he's doing it. this is somebody that apparently is supposed to be out there talking about health care and and what is right and what is wrong and from from what i have seen that he was doing some sort of nicotine patches while he was while he was. >> zens will help him. that's a that's a that's a that's the sense will help him politically. >> a lot of sins on capitol hill. >> that's right. >> i will just say he could not identify the various parts of the medicare program also. that was another that's that's something we didn't even.

>> didn't do his homework touch on today. >> all right. it has been a very long week. it's the last day of the week. it is the last day of the month of january. thank the lord. thanks to our panel. thanks to all of you for joining us. i'm kasie hunt. cnn news central starts right now. we have new details. >> and new video with a new vantage. >> point of. >> the deadly. collision between. >> that army helicopter and that american eagle passenger jet. also, the new york times has new reporting from sources saying that blackhawk's final location indicates it was not on an approved flight path. >> a harvard educated civil rights attorney with a bright future. a highly experienced pilot who adored his family and a service member. remembered as one of the finest. just three of the 67 people whose lives were cut short. we remember the victims this morning.

>> all right. new signs. >> this morning. >> that key republican senators might be shaky. on some of president trump's. >> cabinet picks. >> the revealing. >> moments of the hearings where they might have lost. >> some ground. i'm john berman. >> with sarah signer and kate bolduan. >> this is cnn news. >> central. >> and breaking overnight. cnn has exclusively obtained two new videos offering a more direct angle and vantage point of the midair tragedy between the american eagle's flight and the black hawk helicopter. a warning these videos are difficult to see, as we are also learning more about the 67 lives that were lost in this collision. this morning, the new york times is reporting that the helicopter may have been flying outside of its approved flight path and higher than it should have been. we'll get much more to that. let's get to the videos. the first video we want to show you

the bright light that you see at the top is the american airlines jet as it approaches the runway. then you see the helicopter flying directly into the frame and directly into the plane. both aircraft immediately then crashing down into the potomac river. the second video, it appears to be surveillance video from the airport and showing the very same helicopter moving along the river as the plane approaches the runway at dca, and then the collision and the explosion and into the potomac river. horrifying both. now to the investigation into how that led what led to that horrific crash. both of the so-called black boxes have been recovered from the commercial jet, are being examined and analyzed. those black boxes are going to be key to pinpointing what exactly happened in the moments before the deadly crash. cnn's rene marsh is following all of this live from reagan national airport. rene, what is the latest that you're picking up?

>> well. >> let's focus. >> on the victims first, kate. we can tell you that as of this morning, 14 bodies are still missing. four of them still pinned inside of the aircraft, and two of the soldiers who were inside of that black hawk helicopter have yet to be recovered. we know that recovery efforts will resume soon as the sun comes up this morning. now, we also are expecting the flight manifest with the names of the victims, all of them who were on board the the commercial aircraft to potentially be released today. and we also know that president donald trump has plans to meet with some of the victims families. it is unclear when that meeting will happen. now, as for the investigation that is ramping up this morning, you mentioned the black boxes have been recovered from both aircraft. both the airplane as well as the black hawk helicopter. the ntsb telling us yesterday that they expect to

have a preliminary report with a readout from these black boxes within the next 30 days. investigators are also waiting for a crane to arrive on the crash site. that crane will be helpful in trying to remove much of this debris. that will be critical in this investigation, as well as the debris will hold clues for investigators. and kate, this morning, we're also learning about staffing in that air traffic control tower. we heard that air traffic control audio, in which they warned the pilot of the black hawk helicopter about the commercial regional jet. and now cnn has learned that one air traffic controller was actually working two different tower positions, directing traffic for both local traffic as well as helicopter traffic. however, this source tells us that that is not out of the norm. kate. >> and there's also new reporting today about some other recent close calls at dca. what are you picking up on that?

>> right. so what we have learned is just about a day before wednesday night's deadly incident, that there was another flight approaching reagan national airport. and it was a it was forced to abort its first landing after a helicopter came close to its path. so concerning information that there was another situation where a helicopter, yet again coming close into its path. and i've spoken to several people within the aviation industry yesterday, and they brought up this idea that it is time to ask the question as to whether these military aircraft should be flying in the same airspace, along the same path as these commercial aircraft. of course, as the ntsb wraps up its investigation, which will be many, many months from now, they will make recommendations that will essentially change aviation safety for for years to come, to essentially make sure that this sort of thing does not happen

again. but certainly people paying a lot of attention as to whether these military aircraft should be flying in the same airspace as these commercial aircraft around this airport. kate. >> rene, thank you very much, john. >> and as kate was mentioning, there is. >> also new information this morning on the. >> army black hawk helicopter. >> in. >> the crash. sources tell the new. >> york times. >> it appears. >> to. have been. >> too high and out of its approved flight path. >> there's some. >> new information on the pilots of that helicopter as well. let's get right to cnn's natasha bertrand at the pentagon. natasha, what's the latest from there this morning? >> well. >> john, we're still trying to sort through all of the information that we're getting about this black hawk. and the department of defense, of course, is doing the same. it's interesting that the new york times reported that this was a helicopter that was flying at above 300ft, because the helicopters that are training as part of these missions with these black hawks, they're supposed to be under 200ft. and in fact, cnn has reported that the last reading that this helicopter gave and provided to

these flight radars and flight trackers was that it was at 200ft at the time of the collision. so either that was incorrect or something else went wrong here, but that is going to be part of the investigation as well. now, we know still that the helicopter was on a what has been described to us as a pretty routine training mission. this is something that the pilots would have been experienced with because, as we reported, the pilot and the copilot they had between them about 1500 hours of flight, of flight hours. and so they were not junior pilots. this is not something that they would have been unfamiliar with. however, pete hegseth, who is the secretary of defense, he did acknowledge yesterday that a quote, mistake was made and that there may have been an elevation issue. now, the times is also reporting that the flight of the helicopter may actually have deviated a bit from its flight path. there are very specific, predetermined flight routes that these helicopters are supposed to be taking. and it's our understanding that this

helicopter did shift from what is known as flight path one to flight path four, which may account for why it was making those maneuvers at that time. but still, so many questions to be answered here, including, for example, were they wearing night vision goggles, which may have something to do with their vision being impaired as president trump suggested yesterday? so all of these questions have yet to be answered. and i know members of congress have similar questions. senator tammy duckworth, she also told jake tapper yesterday that in her briefing from the faa, you know, there were more questions about whether this helicopter was on the appropriate flight path. and as renee mentioned as well, we are still waiting for these two other crew members from this helicopter to be recovered. so far, only one has been john. >> all right. natasha bertrand at the pentagon raising so many questions. any one of these slight deviations certainly could have contributed to this disaster. but that is why an

investigation is underway. sarah. >> all right. >> thank you. john. >> we are learning. >> this morning more about the 67 people. >> who. >> lost their lives, including first officer sam lilley and captain jonathan campos. captain campos, described as an amazing person who loved flying and loved his family. first officer lilley, a young finance who was sorry. young fiance who was waiting for his fall wedding. his sister overnight, describing just how proud she was of him. >> my dad helped him go to flight school and then he worked really hard on that. it was a lot tougher than he thought it was going to be, but he pursued and kicked butt through it. and then loved. he loved, loved, loved what he did. >> the skating community, also devastated by the loss of incredible young talent. overnight, the father of 16 year old spencer lane described the moment he realized his wife and son were on that flight and not

okay. >> it seemed like the flight had landed, but their phones weren't on and they. >> weren't like popping. >> up anywhere. it just said small. plane in the potomac and i was just like, oh, my god, in. >> my heart just started like. >> exploding out of my. >> chest. >> a horrible realization there. and then you have kia duggins. she's a civil rights attorney and harvard law graduate. she was set to begin a new chapter as howard law professor this fall. we've learned she interned during the obama administration and had a passion for empowering young girls. she started the princess project when she was just 20 years old. after growing up without a disney princess who looked like her and sara lee best and elizabeth ann keys were associates at the same law firm, sara, on the left, remembered for her kindness and her intelligence. elizabeth, for her fearlessness, her humor and sharp wit. elizabeth's family has said it was her birthday, the night that the plane went

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you learning about all of this? >> that's right, sarah. and to be clear, as you mentioned, there are still so many unanswered questions about what happened on wednesday night. what exactly caused that collision? things that we're, of course, still digging into. and the white house i know is still digging into. and yet we have continued to hear president donald trump double and triple down on his claims. again, as you mentioned, that he has provided, without evidence that perhaps some bad politics and and diversity, equity and inclusion hiring practices could have contributed to that crash. i want you to take a listen to what donald trump said, because he spoke about this first at that briefing yesterday at 11 a.m., but then again later when he was in the oval office signing some executive orders. take a listen. >> i'm trying to figure out how you can come to the conclusion right now that diversity had something to do with this crash. >> because i have common sense. okay. and unfortunately, a lot

of people don't. >> mr. president, to be clear, are you saying race or gender played a role in this tragedy? >> it may have i don't know. incompetence might have played a role. well, we'll let you know that. >> so, as you could hear there, sir, i think it's notable that later in the day, when he was signing those orders, he said, i don't know, incompetence could have played a role. so again, it's clear that they're still trying to gather, you know, evidence and try to learn what exactly happened here. but i do want to take a step back, because when we did see the president for the first time yesterday, he did come out there to the podium in the white house briefing room. he offered a moment of silence. he said this was a moment of anguish for the nation. but then he very quickly pivoted to blaming both the obama and biden administrations. he called out former transportation secretary pete buttigieg, specifically attacking him, and and argued that perhaps their politics were to blame here and again, arguing as well that hiring practices at the at the faa and within the

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network. >> this morning, questions about the motivation and judgment behind president trump's decision, based on no evidence that we know of to blame diversity efforts on the deadly collision that killed 67 people over the potomac river. >> i put safety first. obama, biden and the democrats put policy first, and they put politics at a level that nobody's ever seen. they actually came out with a directive to white. and we want the people that are competent. >> with us now is senator chris murphy, a democrat from connecticut. he sits on both the senate foreign relations committee and the appropriations committee. senator, i think you might have been in a hearing when that press conference was going on. but i am curious, what was your reaction when you first learned that was how president trump chose to respond to this national tragedy? >> listen, it was disgusting. disgusting because, you know, diversity is the polite, the

polite way to talk about his complaint. what he is saying is that the only people who are competent to run anything in this country are white men. that's what he's saying. he's saying that because the faa has hired women and black people, that our nation's safety is at risk. it's kind of incredible that a president of the united states can say that. but let's examine why he's saying it. why did he come out so quickly to try to attack women and black people for ruining the faa? he did that because he is very vulnerable. he has some big questions to answer because the faa has been in chaos in crisis since he took over. elon musk, his co-president, forced out the faa administrator. so for the last week, we have been leaderless at the faa. we have had no one in charge of the faa. trump fired upon taking office, the entire faa safety advisory board. he spent the last week trying to push federal employees out the door, including people

at the faa, trying to bully them into accepting offers to resign. and so we got reports that the control tower was not normal on the night of the crash. well, that stands to reason, because the faa has been in meltdown since trump took over. he knows that he would have to answer for that. so instead of actually explaining why he left the faa leaderless and without any direction in chaos, he's blaming black people and blaming women who work at the faa without any evidence. of course, he has no evidence that that's true because it's not true. and you know, who knows? let's see what's what. the real reason is here. but this could be a cover up. >> it could be a cover up. listen, have you seen any evidence that the staffing issue inside that control tower was tied to the shift in administration? we are told that it wasn't staffed the way that it would be on a normal night.

but we also have been told that it isn't unheard of for staffing to be like it was on that night. >> listen, all i'm saying is that trump took very specific actions to leave the faa without a leader to wage a daily assault on federal employees, including those at the faa. and it is important for us to get to the bottom of whether that had any impact on what happened in the control tower that night, and whether that had anything to do with the crash. i don't know the answer to that question, but i know that those things are true, and what i know is not true is that die and efforts to hire women or black people or latinos at the faa had anything to do with that crash. so i just want the president to be held accountable for the fact that all of our federal agencies right now are a mess. every day we are receiving calls from employees at our federal

agencies, including the agencies that protect us, saying that everybody is in crisis, that they are looking over their shoulder wondering whether they are going to be fired, wonder whether the programs that they are running are going to be cut off. and at some point, he has to be held to account for the chaos, the deliberate chaos that he is creating in our federal agencies. >> how independent the ntsb is. is an independent investigatory board, and president trump, we should know, came out with his opinions before the board has barely even begun the investigation, let alone concluded its investigation. what concerns do you have about the independence of that investigation going forward? >> well, i mean, what we're seeing is, is trump destroy the independence of our most critical agencies? as i mentioned, one of the things he did at the faa was to fire everyone at the safety advisory board. the board that oversees safety recommendations for the

faa, in addition to getting rid of the head of the faa, he also got rid of the head of tsa. and the idea is that he is going to put loyalists in all of these jobs. people that are not primarily looking out for the safety of this nation, but are primarily looking out to protect donald trump. and so all of our agencies and the organizations like the ntsb that sit underneath them, are really in jeopardy of becoming political tools of the president instead of independent arbiters of safety in this country. >> you talked a lot about the now memo that the white house rescinded, that put a freeze on federal spending. and you say that the actual. rescission is somehow deepening the crisis. what do you mean? >> well, what the president announced was that he was

rescinding the memo, but the freeze was still going forward. now, how could that be? because there was a court order that said he had to stop the freeze. well, the white house admitted that all they were doing was rescinding the memo because the memo was the only thing that the court order was relevant to. now, since that happened, there's been another corridor telling trump that he really, really, really has to stop this spending freeze because it's blatantly unconstitutional. what i'm saying is that trump is telegraphing is admitting that he is going to do everything he can to get around the court orders in order to shut down the federal government in order to be able to stop all federal spending programs so that he can turn back on the programs that reward his political friends and keep off the programs that, that, that that benefit his political enemies. that's what he's trying to do by taking control of federal spending is to help his billionaire friends and hurt folks like those that

live in my state, represented by democrats. the courts have intervened again. we're still figuring out whether the freeze is still in existence. i was getting calls yesterday from some of my non-for-profits in connecticut. those, for instance, that run homelessness programs saying that they still couldn't receive money. it's all corrupt. it's all an effort for him just to pad the pockets of his billionaire buddies. and i'm just very disturbed that he seems interested in getting around the court orders instead of obeying the court orders. >> senator chris murphy from connecticut, thank you for being with us this morning. sarah. >> all right. ahead. canada, mexico, china on notice tomorrow is the deadline for president trump's promised tariffs. so how might it affect you and your finances? also, brand new exclusive video this morning obtained by cnn showing the trajectory of the helicopter and the passenger jet at the moment of impact, giving investigators new insight into what went

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loving, talented. and it's just a tragic loss to our community. >> those beautiful faces. that's a friend. remembering the family of four, including 11 and 14 year old figure skating sisters, all killed in the dc plane collision. of the 67 people who died in that tragedy, 14 were members of the figure skating world and were returning from championships and an elite skating camp in kansas when this happened. now this leaving a community that just devastated this morning and paying tribute to these athletes, coaches and parents. cnn's ed lavandera has more we just wanted to be here with each other. >> six members of the skating club. >> of boston. >> died wednesday. olympic medalist nancy kerrigan. >> came together with. >> the. >> boston skating community. after the unimaginable tragedy. >> not sure how to process it.

>> among the. >> 67 victims of the deadly collision, two teenage figure skaters. spencer lane. >> would you please welcome to the ice jinna han. >> and jinna han. >> we watched. >> gina just grow up here. from just a tiny little tyke into this amazingly mature 13 year old, and we talked a lot about the athletes, but i think we're going to miss their moms as much. just really good people. >> their mothers. >> were also. >> on the plane, along with two coaches. evgenia shishkova and vadim naumov from boston. >> seen here winning the. >> 1994 world figure skating pairs championship. >> i really can't believe that it happened because i picture. >> them right here the coaches always stood at. >> that entrance. the skaters just. flew all over the ice doing remarkable things, inspiring all of us.

>> they were just. >> a. >> handful of a. >> larger group of skaters on american eagle flight 53. 42. >> 14 skaters returning home from the national development camp at wichita, kansas, put on by u.s. figure skating, were lost in the plane crash. >> the russian. couple's son, maksim, returned. >> home on an earlier flight, just medaled at the u.s. men's figure skating championship over the weekend. an eerie silence at the wichita ice center as the magnitude of the loss keeps growing. a mourner left a simple tribute on the bare ice. days after an intense three day training took place here. there are some of my daughter's best. >> friends. >> one of the crash victims was. playing a. >> video game. >> with this. >> man's ten year old daughter from the plane. >> just before. >> the accident occurred. >> she would always be there to talk to me. >> tragedy has struck this skating community before. in 1961, when the entire boston clubs team was killed in a plane

crash heading to the world championships. other victims in wednesday's crash over the potomac river were three u.s. service members aboard the black hawk helicopter and. four crew members on the plane that left wichita, including american airlines flight attendant ian epstein, first officer samuel lilley and captain jonathan campos. >> this is a terrible. tragedy that. will unite those in washington, d.c. and wichita, kansas, forever. >> all right. with an investigation underway into the deadliest air disaster in the u.s. in decades. we have exclusive new video obtained by cnn showing the midair collision from a different angle. i want to walk you through one of those videos right now. all right. let's go to this clip. it appears to be shot from the airport grounds and shows the plane descending. that's on your right when the helicopter is on the left. and there you see there continuing at a low

altitude. and then that explosion after they collide. now, after the explosion, both aircraft you can see falling into the icy river below. cnn aviation analyst miles o'brien is joining us now. we're looking at this video. does this video miles give you any better sense of of what went wrong and how this rare mid-air collision happened? >> yes, sarah, watching. >> it. >> it appears. from the angle there. it's hard to say for sure, but it looks as if the blackhawk helicopter was not taking evasive action at that moment. um, i could be wrong. it's. it's difficult to see with the darkness. >> but. >> um, we do know that air traffic control, right about just before this, uh, had warned the helicopter to be on the lookout for this traffic. the the aircraft, which had collided with. and the crew acknowledged

that. the question is, what? when they said they saw the traffic, what did they see? did they mistake the aircraft for something else? uh. or did they become distracted some other way? or is it possible there was some sort of mechanical failure which made it impossible for them to control the craft? all those things will be in mind, but i don't see any attempt at getting behind that aircraft, which was the instruction from air traffic control. >> yeah, it doesn't appear that there was any, as you said, evasive action by the helicopter. the new york times is reporting that the military chopper may have deviated from its approved path by flying higher than it should have been. how would something like, like that happen when there are clear, approved routes? >> well, we can say with certainty it was above where it should be. the airliner was riding down that the rails of,

uh, instrument approach and had not deviated from that approach path or from its altitude. uh, the problem, sarah, is that airliner at that location. uh, if it's on the proper glide path, which this aircraft was, would be at about 400ft off the surface. uh, the helicopter corridor directly beneath that approach path requires the helicopter to fly no higher than 200ft. well, that is that's a very tight, uh, no margin for error. airspace arrangement and demands that everybody in that spot be completely on their toes and fly to complete perfection. so why the helicopter was above the corridor? altitude is the absolute core of this investigation. and that leads investigators to the cockpit voice recorder as much as anything to see what the crew

was doing. was it distracted? was there some other, uh, failure of some kind that that took their eye off the what was ahead of them? >> yeah, i mean, that is the main question now why that helicopter was in the position that it was in our pete muntean has been reporting that there was one air traffic controller working two different tower positions. is is that normal? is that something that would normally happen? and if if not, what role might that have played. >> well air traffic control in the united states is dramatically short staffed. the faa has been trying to bounce back from the pandemic, lost a lot of people during that time. you can't just hire people off the street and put them in the control tower at reagan national airport. i think we can all agree on that. so it's been a very slow rebuild of the atc workforce and the the atc personnel are working long hours under stressful job on a good

day. and so they do have a significant problem as they try to fill some 3000 slots. having said all that, and that is an important point, don't get me wrong. i don't see evidence yet that this was a failure of air traffic control. it is the responsibility of the helicopter flight crew to see and avoid traffic. air traffic control provides advisories. in this case, there's a subtle distinction there. >> yeah. miles o'brien, thank you so much for walking us through that. on this day where families are just trying to deal with this tragedy. i appreciate you going through the investigation with me, john. >> all right. major news on other fronts this morning. we're learning that at least half a dozen senior fbi leaders have to decide by monday whether to resign, retire or they'll get fired. let's get right to senior justice correspondent evan perez. something of an ultimatum. evan, what are you learning about it? >> that's right. john. good morning. this is a purge. really? that began last week at

the justice department. career lawyers that were being forced out or being reassigned as a way to hint at them that they should leave. and yesterday it started happening at the fbi. now, we'd heard for for weeks from trump transition officials that there were plans to move out top career career fbi agents who they believed were associated with chris wray because he's been the fbi director for seven years, and he promoted them. and so yesterday, as kash patel sat asking questions, answering questions from senators during his confirmation hearing, some of these officials were brought in and told that they had a choice, which is to retire, resign or be fired on monday. and so this, of course, came up during the hearing. listen to senator cory booker ask patel about this. >> are you. >> aware of. any plans or discussions. >> to punish. >> in any. >> way, including termination.

fbi agents or personnel associated with trump investigations? >> yes or no? i am not aware of that. thank you. senator. >> and john, look, the some of this is happening obviously before patel gets there, but he already has some senior aides who are going to be working with him already inside the fbi. we also know that the fbi agents association was concerned about this, john, any any any agents who were assigned to january 6th cases or to the mar-a-lago classified documents case, very concerned that they would be targeted. and during a meeting with the fbi agents association, we're told that kash patel listened, but did not promise to take any action. john. >> a lot of this happening right out in the open. evan perez in washington, d.c., reporting on it all. thank you, evan, very much. kate. >> a lineup for the ages. the music stars that are coming together to help victims of the deadly wildfires. we've got much more on that. and robert f kennedy jr.. s view on vaccine science past and present. now

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skating champion and beloved broadcaster who transformed the world of figure skating, has passed away. he dominated the sport in the 1940s and early 50s, becoming america's youngest men's champion at the age of 16. button won two olympic gold and five world championships. he was the first skater to land a double axel and triple loop in competition. dick button, 95 years old. >> kate mara. >> republican chair of the senate's health committee, says he is struggling with president donald trump's pick to head up the country's public health agencies. robert f. kennedy jr.. is who we're talking about. he wrapped two days of confirmation hearings that included many serious questions from senators about his views on a critical aspect of public health vaccines. watch this. >> if you are approved to this decision to this position, will

you say unequivocally, will you will you reassure mothers unequivocally and without qualification, that the measles and hepatitis b vaccines do not cause autism? >> senator, i am not going into the agency with any. >> kind of a yes or no question because. so if you're because the data is there and that's kind of a yes or no. and i don't mean to cut you off, but that really is a yes or no. >> if the data is there, i will absolutely do that. >> now there is the data. just because i used to i used to do hepatitis b, as i said, i know the data is there. >> well then then i will be the first person. if you show me data, i will be the first person to assure the american people to take that. they need to take those vaccines. >> now, what concerns me is that you've cast doubt on some of these vaccines recently. i mean, like the last few years, but the data and i could quote some of it, um, the data has been there

for a long time. >> so rfk jr. insists that he will not change fda vaccine approval or review standards, insist that he is not anti-vaccine. but lawmakers, like many medical experts, are clearly not convinced. joining me right now is doctor paul offit. he's the director of the vaccine education center at children's hospital of philadelphia. his answer gets to something you have been raising for. months and months and months now. two days of hearings. hours and hours of questioning. what is your overall takeaway from rfk? under oath before the senate. >> rfk jr. is exactly who he's been for the last 20 years. when senator cassidy questions him about vaccines as a cause of autism, for which. there's been dozens of studies showing that there is no association between getting a vaccine and developing autism, he says. if the data are there. rfk jr. says if the data are there, what is he talking

about? of course their data are there. he just ignores those data because it doesn't fit with his fit in with his fixed, immutable, science resistant hypothesis that vaccines cause autism. his response should scare the american public, and it should scare senator cassidy. >> yeah. when he says, show me the data, it almost should be read as i don't trust any data. that's the only two ways you can kind of put it together, given when he's talking about hepatitis b vaccine especially, and he says he's not anti-vaccine, we know that that is fundamentally can't be true because he does not trust science, which also led to another very striking moment with senator maggie hassan. let me play this for you. >> i am the proud mother of. >> a 36. >> year old young man with severe cerebral palsy. please do not suggest that anybody. in this body of either political party doesn't want to know what the cause of autism is. the

problem with this witnesses response on the autism cause and the relationship to vaccines is because he's relitigating and churning settled science, so we can't go forward. >> and find the cause of autism is what she's talking about. how is this that going to manifest? meaning his refusal to accept accepted science? how is that going to manifest? do you think or fear if he is in charge of hhs? >> well, his continual beating of the drum that vaccines cause autism continues to have an effect. so, for example, there was a paper recently published in the journal of the american medical association that found that children with autism are less likely to get vaccinated than children who don't have autism. and in addition, younger siblings of those children who don't have autism, unlike their

older sibling, also are less likely to get vaccinated. so what he's doing is he's lowering vaccination rates by sounding this false alarm that vaccines cause autism, and he simply refuses to agree. i think the thing that got me about senator cassidy, who i thought was very thoughtful in this hearing, was when he told a story about a patient he was taking care of who had a hepatitis b virus induced cancer, and that that, um, rfk jr. has decried hepatitis b, rfk jr. has said the hepatitis b vaccine doesn't work, even though when it was introduced in 1991 as a routine newborn vaccine, hepatitis b vaccine, we basically eliminated the 18,000 cases of hepatitis b that would occur every year in children less than ten. he's a science denialist. this is not a man you want in a position of supervising science agencies like fda, cdc and nih. >> doctor offit, if he gets confirmed, what's your advice to parents, families and everyone?