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this friday. and we begin this morning with the mid-air collision over the potomac and investigation intensifying and the search for answers sharpening. first, a cnn exclusive. we have obtained two videos that show previously unseen angles of the crash. you see it right here on your screen. here you see the u.s. army blackhawk helicopter on the left, apparently flying right into the path of the american airlines flight. now, here is another video capturing the moments before impact. the helicopter is traveling over the river as the plane makes its descent to reagan national airport. some experts are wondering if the army pilot was confused by the other bright lights, and didn't see the approaching plane. also this morning, the new york times is reporting that the blackhawk may have strayed off course. quote

the military helicopter appears to have been flying too high and outside its approved flight path at the time of the crash, according to four people briefed on the matter, but not authorized to speak publicly, end quote. ntsb investigators this morning, analyzing both the voice and data recorders from flight 5342 and hope to have a preliminary report ready within the next 30 days. i want to begin our coverage with cnn's rene marsh is at reagan national airport. what are you learning, rene? >> well, pamela, on that piece about the helicopter and whether it was flying at the proper altitude, if confirmed, that deviation away from the altitude, it should have been at would raise concerns about whether the pilot was following the flight regulations of that airspace of that time. in the moments leading up to this collision. now, investigators have not yet retrieved the black box from the black hawk helicopter, but it will indeed, when they do get it, give them

information about the altitude at which this helicopter was flying at. they do, however, have the black boxes from the commercial passenger plane, and we know that it is now at their labs. they have opened it and they have begun the process of doing a readout of those of those black boxes. we also know that they are tapping they, meaning the ntsb tapping into expertise of their members across the country. they have flown in a member of their ntsb go team from alaska who was a former black hawk black hawk helicopter pilot. tapping into his expertise as far as the the work that is being done. we talked about the black boxes. they are also waiting on a crane to arrive at the crash site so they can begin the retrieval of debris. we know that they do have already pieces of debris in hand that they've already started analysis on. and and as far as the

>> every aircraft flying within their path, just simply to close for a safe landing. i want you to air traffic control audio from that incident. >> i describe as a helicopter over georgetown northbound 300ft. we had a ra. ra 4514 going around. >> we had an ra with a helicopter traffic below us. >> and we're expecting them to possibly give us some more. >> i mean, the fact that this has happened before, it just highlights the danger of having these military aircraft in the same airspace, operating with these commercial aircraft around such a busy airport. and i've

heard from many in the aviation industry already having conversations about whether that needs to change. pamela. >> yeah, that is that is a big question right now. i want to continue this conversation. thanks to renee. let's continue this conversation with senator maria cantwell, a democrat representing the state of washington. she is the ranking member of the commerce, science and transportation committee. senator, thank you for joining us. so you have received briefings from the ntsb and the faa. what have you learned from them? >> well. >> data is starting to flow in, but it's most important to give the ntsb the time to do the investigation. ultimately, the ntsb will find the facts that right now, people can have conjecture about. but so important to let them get that information, because ultimately, the facts will lead us to the changes we need to see. >> but can you confirm any of the information that's out there, based on the briefings you've received about the black hawk helicopter, and that it may have veered off its flight path

and been at a higher altitude than it should have been? >> well, i represent a big aviation state. you know, the seattle times is a pulitzer award winning newspaper on aviation. so a lot of experts and a lot of people giving them data and information. so there's a lot online that suggests that it was at the wrong altitude. i think the president may have even said something this morning confirming that it was at an altitude that people didn't expect it to be at. but let's get the data from the ntsb. they have the black box. as your reporter just said. it will take them some time to analyze it. yes, they might be able to play it today, but the point is they're trying to piece together so that we get to the real facts of a situation. and that's what i think is so important, because every aviation change that we need to make needs to be based on the real facts. >> i want to go back to that video we've been showing that cnn has obtained, and it shows the moments. if we can just show that here. it shows the moments just before the midair collision. and, you know, you

watch that video and hopefully again, we can pull it up. but it does raise questions about the black hawk helicopter and whether it was focused on the wrong plane. here it is right here. you can see this video from a different angle. and there it happens. and it it's just so hard to even watch that because we do have to remember, as we talk about the investigation, 67 lives lost. but what questions does that raise for you? and do you know from the briefings you've gotten, have you learned anything about the helicopter pilots in terms of where they were in their training? because experts have been speaking to are asking, could it have been an issue of fatigue, or were they done with their training? they were heading back. was fatigue an issue? >> well, pamela, first let me express my condolences to all the families. these are such horrific events and they take devastating tolls on people's families that they may never recover from. and so what the best thing we can do for them is get them answers. and so what the video shows is that they

were flying at the same altitude at a moment when that shouldn't have happened, that somewhere in the process of what is now established as these two routes, which i think will raise a lot of questions for lawmakers to discuss, how how are those two routes and even the level of separation that is expected? how could how, how are we even doing that? but so i think we'll get an answer from the ntsb. but from appearances, it looked like they were at the same altitude. >> do you think helicopters should be flying there near the airport and not busy airspace? >> i think that we have to ask a question. what kind of oversight do we have of a plan that allows maybe a cap at 200ft in a in a flight coming in on that runway 33. is that even enough to have separation? is that enough separation? so if the pilot just deviated by 100ft, was that enough separation? so all these are things we're going to have to get from the ntsb and be you know, i know it's hard it's

hard to wait for that. but jennifer homendy is an excellent, excellent administrator. i think she's spending her time today briefing the families, which i think people forget. that's also very hard part. >> of this. >> the administrator, we had a seaplane accident out in the northwest, and she personally came and took over the investigation. and you have to be able to communicate to the press, but you have to also communicate to the families, and they want answers, too. >> of course. just a follow up on that, though, because renee just talked about the near collision the day before between an airplane and a helicopter. should airplanes be flying in that crowded airspace near dca, particularly at night, where there are just more complexities? >> i think there has to be a review of this policy. and how did we get to this point? obviously, our airspace here with a military presence and my sense is movement of dignitaries in and out of d.c. what is the right level of interface between

those two entities? the faa and dod. and we need to get clarity on this, right? >> yeah. so the helicopters and whether they should still be flying in that airspace at night, i think that's continuing continuing piece of scrutiny after this collision. something else that is under scrutiny is this bill that you supported. it was a bipartisan group of senators supporting more flights being added, more long distance flights, five being added. as you well know, some of your fellow colleagues, senator kaine, senator warner, senator van hollen, they were against it. they said, look, this airspace is way too crowded. it's too complex dca is already maxed out. it's supposed to take 15 million flights. it's now 25 million, and we're adding more. was that the wrong move in hindsight following this collision, which, by the way, we don't know if it played a role with this, but does it raise questions for you? >> well, the faa has the ultimate authority to always monitor the flight paths and systems and say what is safe and what is operational that rests with the faa administrator. i

hope we will get an faa administrator very soon, because i thought mike whitaker was doing a good job at trying to address our safety issues, and now we don't have an administrator. but i think all of this will be discussed because the question is, how do you build capacity? there's a lot of members who don't like the perimeter rule. that is that we're allowing a lot of short flights from various places into dca. so it's i guarantee you, out of 100 members of the united states senate, they all have an opinion. they're just not the same opinion. so i think what what you have to do in any instance, you need a continuous safety improvement regime. we're fighting for that. that bill gave us more air traffic controllers. it funded the ntsb when people didn't want to reauthorize and fund it. they're the north star, whatever they say, that's what we should do. unfortunately, the faa needs to be a more aggressive oversight agency. and in this case, what did the faa think of this inner

flight pattern between dod and the air traffic controllers? management at the airport, and what else were they dealing with? what else was the air traffic controllers dealing with? so after the challenger explosion, we put a bigger safety office at nasa. and it may be that there's a need for a bigger safety office at the faa to monitor these airport issues and give us an understanding of whether they think that they have the capacity to deal with this or they don't. but ultimately, it's the faa administrator's determination. does that airport have a problem? does it need to change. >> really quickly? i want to get your response to president trump. baselessly blaming die and democrats on this collision. >> well, i think he was off base. the standards for air traffic controllers haven't changed. so they're the same standards and people have to meet them or you don't get the job. what is a problem is that we haven't had enough air

traffic controllers. so you have been stretching the people that do work there, sometimes making them work six days in a row. we fought to improve by adding 3000 new air traffic controllers. so we don't want to cut back on air traffic controllers. we want to have more. we want them to have enough rest, and we want to make sure that the faa does its oversight job of the airspace and air traffic controllers. and do we have what it takes to monitor any situation? >> and as we know, our reporting from pete muntean is that the air traffic controller on duty was doing the job of two covering both helicopters and the planes at the time of this collision, even though that's not uncommon. apparently. according to experts. >> i don't know. and i'm like, i'm like you. i know we've had some briefing yesterday by ntsb and they'll keep us up to speed. as i know, chairman cruz is planning to have a member meeting with ntsb probably next week or early next week. and so we'll get some more information

there. but yes, that question of what is the standard practice for staffing? and if they moved it by an hour, which it sounds like they did, if they basically said as traffic slowed down, did they release people from having two different systems in place at the same time? all of this is the oversight role we are supposed to play. but the bottom line is the faa has to be more aggressive, particularly in an era of new technology. they have to be more aggressive about monitoring all of this and not just letting. if your incident showed that there was a go around yesterday or maybe two weeks ago, or i've even been on a go around at national. so so is so we have said to the ntsb, you published the trend report, you published the safety trend report. why? because we believe you. why? because you have to investigate accidents. why? because you have to listen to those tapes over and over again. the last minutes of someone's life. so listen to what the ntsb says. and if they say that is not enough staffing or that's

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cantwell. whether that should happen. and now it is renee, what more are you learning? >> yes, certainly. this was the conversation that a lot of in the aviation industry were having. and now we see that the faa is taking swift. and this is pretty major action here, where they are essentially closing these helicopter routes near reagan national airport. this coming from cnn's pete muntean. again, the breaking news is that they have indefinitely shut down the low altitude helicopter corridor that was in use at the time of wednesday night's fatal mid-air collision. that is what an faa spokesperson tells us. a little bit more detail on these routes. it says that it has closed the route north of wilson bridge that connects d.c. and virginia. and the faa has also closed another helicopter route south of the key bridge that connects georgetown neighborhood

to d.c. and rosslyn. just in layman's terms, you know, this airspace, we talked about it so much and just how complicated and busy it is, simply because not only military aircraft, but also police aircraft, also traverse this airspace. and in light of this midair collision, the faa taking this stance and we heard from the ntsb yesterday where they said that during the course of this investigation, if they identify a safety issue that they feel needs to be corrected in real time, they will do that. and so we see the investigators find that this situation about this busy airspace around reagan national airport being occupied by military aircraft and commercial aircraft is just too dangerous to continue to leave that open at this point. and so that is the top line here. they are closing off the airspace to these military helicopter

aircraft. >> all right. rene marsh, thanks for bringing us that breaking news. and we're learning more this morning about those who died in the horrific crash, among them world class athletes, a group of friends who were returning from their annual hunting trip, and a pilot looking forward to his wedding this fall. cnn's eva mccann joins us now. eva, so many passengers with promising futures. it's just so devastating. >> it is pam and these young attorneys, you know, they had such great promise. they were just starting their lives. i want to lift up the name of keith duggins. she was harvard trained, a civil rights attorney. she worked for civil rights corps. she was returning home to see her family in wichita, kansas, before coming back to dc for work. she at harvard, she was the president of the harvard legal aid bureau, and this fall she was set to become a professor at howard university's school of law. she was a white house intern during

the obama administration, and she was a fulbright scholar in taiwan, teaching english. so just an incredible life that she lived, right. someone you would want to have been friends with? >> look at the picture of her. and there's so much like brightness and light and promise. >> yes. >> and it's just. >> it's devastating. it's devastating. sara lee and elizabeth ann keyes are other names i want to lift up. they were associates of the same firm. they are being remembered as cherished members of their community. keyes was 33 years old, a cincinnati native, and went on to graduate from tufts university in the boston area. sara lee best is being remembered for her boundless curiosity, kindness, and intelligence, and we heard from keith's high school principal. let's listen. >> she was just such a such an outstanding student, outstanding young lady, you know, just the kind of person that we need

many, many more of. >> and, pam, what strikes me about this entire episode is that so many of the people were so young, they were just starting their lives. they had so much promise. some of them were remarkably talented. as we learn about their careers and their work, and all of that was cut short. >> yeah, those two ice skaters right there. coaches. >> yes. this was part of the university of delaware figure skating club. and what we know about them was that this was an incredibly tight knit group. these were young people that were working very, very hard and were dedicated and disciplined athletes. i know, i know, and so this is all we can do in this moment is just to remember them and lift up their names and remember them for how they lived. >> and just think about their families right now and the heartbreak and grief, the unimaginable grief that they are going through as as they process this, as as we all are. eva mccann. thank you. joining us

now is democratic kansas state representative john carmichael. so you represent the city of wichita. how are you and your community coping right now? >> i am one of about 20 state representatives who represent wichita. and obviously it's shock. this is the third major air disaster in my lifetime involving people from wichita. but i have to comment, though, on the segment just a moment ago about kia duggins. you know, her father's a friend of mine. i've known the family for years, went to school with them. she is amongst the best and the brightest. she's a person of color, and it really offends me when donald trump campaigns and insults people of color and people with disabilities are saying that they're affirmative action hires. has the man no compassion? >> this is a picture here of

kia. like i said earlier in our last segment, i mean, she just she embodies everything that you would want, right? i mean, she just has so much promise and brightness and lightness and just it is a life cut short, so many lives cut short. you mentioned president trump, the comments that he made blaming die and democrats baselessly blaming before even all the bodies have been pulled from the water. what would you like to hear from president trump in this moment of grief? >> what i would like to hear is the same type of thing that our senior senator, a republican, jerry moran, uh, a friend of mine from law school has said and done. number one, an outpouring of genuine compassion and help for the families of the victims. and number two, just like senator cantwell, a commitment to once the facts are

in, once the ntsb has determined what happened to then investigate and and see what, if any, changes need be made, but to go off on a half baked attack on on people of color. it's that's just it's unacceptable in my view. and i really wish the president wouldn't do those sorts of things. >> what does that do to you in a moment of grief? hearing that from the president, i'm just worried. i'm just wondering what that does to this community the lead editorial in this morning's wichita eagle addresses that very issue. >> and the editorial editor there expressed it very clearly that this is disrespectful. this is not helpful. there are things that can be done that are helpful and obviously, closing those low altitude helicopter

routes until we can determine what happened is an example of something that's important for aviation safety. wichita is a place where we build airplanes. everybody in wichita has a tie to airplanes. i've flown them for 50 years. we have a commitment to aviation safety in this community, and it's important that people like senator cantwell and senator moran get to the bottom of it. once the facts are in. >> kansas state representative john carmichael, thank you. >> thank you for having me. >> and coming up, what do pilots actually see when they fly into the dc area at night? commercial pilot and flight instructor erin murphy will take us inside a flight simulator just ahead. >> of anderson cooper 360 tonight at eight on cnn. >> ontario, canada. stable and secure. when the world around us isn't, you can rely on us for energy to power your growing economy. and for critical

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the window right now, for example, you see how the lights have a bit of a twinkling effect. >> a lot of that can camouflage other aircraft. the lights within that carpeting of lights, it can be very difficult to see other moving vehicles. and not only that, but then you have moving vehicles on the roadways in the lights. >> erin murphy joins us now. hi, erin. so i want to note that the simulator you're in is a boeing 737, not a crj 700 like the aircraft involved in the crash. but this is essentially my understanding, is essentially the same thing that any pilot would see on approach to reagan national airport. how do you think just just explain further how you think the lights at night could have played a role in what happened. take us, take us. there. >> the human factors. before i get into my explanation, pamela, thank you so much for having me. um, i've been following the

story. i'm on the edge of tears constantly. i am so in tune with the families and the friends and everyone who was affected by this incredible accident. um, let's let's get on with what everybody needs to know. flying into any airport at night is an increased risk. increased challenges. the human physiology. we can start with that. your vision is not quite the same in darkness as it is in light. and i think most of us know that already. so coming into an airport, any airport in the world, literally where there are other aircraft, most definitely there's going to be airplanes. that becomes something you have to mitigate, a risk that must be mitigated, and that mitigation is done through training and procedures. and the only way to really be sure that training and procedures work is we must apply them to the real world situation and analyze very closely what further risks and what further

issues are occurring in the operations. >> so i want to dive a little bit deeper into that, because you have said that pilots flying into dca have to have specialized training to fly into that area. why is that? and what does that look like? >> the dc airport, the reagan national, is just so busy, and the airspace is a little bit compressed because of all the restricted airspace with the government buildings surrounding, uh, the just the density of the traffic, you need specific training and you need specific guidance when it's your first couple of times into this airport. and that's true of all the major airlines. they will receive that additional extra training for this airport in particular. >> yeah. because you've called the dc area that airspace a hot spot. what makes this airspace just so complicated? and how do you think the fact that the faa is now indefinitely banning helicopter routes in that area will play, play a role and help

out? >> the the number one threat, as we'll call it, would be the helicopter routes. and they're flying beneath the aircraft in a routine way. we look at the statistics of that particular interaction. and so far it's been okay. near misses are have been there's been a few in the area that's for sure. um, what we have found out of course now too late that the procedures and the training for this specific threat, this, this. specific airport clearly is not the best way to be doing this. >> so tell me a little bit more about the tcas system. if you're still there. um, because that's supposed to alert aircraft if there's going to be, you know, the potential for a collision, why didn't that prevent this from happening here? >> that's a great question, pamela. i'm obviously in the

captain's seat of the 737 and in the center pedestal area right between the pilots is where the tcas system is typically located. uh, the tcas shares a little box with what's called the, um, the transponder and the tcas itself is a traffic collision avoidance system. so it has a ta and an ra. the ta is the traffic advisory. so it's going to put up information on the navigation displays to tell the pilots where the airplanes are in the local area. now, um, the targets are changing their positions on this screen. these targets are also showing their elevation, their changes in elevation as well. so it's very helpful to be able to see that. and as the targets move closer to your target, and in our case, we have a white triangle on the navigation display, you probably can't see this very well. the targets will change color, and then the system will call out traffic. traffic. if you're not really alert or you haven't

noticed it yet, traffic, traffic. and we're already ahead of that for sure. so that's the advisory section of that. the the resolution. um, the ra resolution is where when that aircraft, that threat becomes too close to our aircraft, i will actually get indications on my primary flight display and it will tell me, climb, climb. now these systems are interconnected between the aircraft independent, independent of air traffic control and human intervention. so the other aircraft will receive a descend descend now. so the airplanes are doing two different things. the fastest way to get away from another person or another object is the opposite direction. all right. so that's extremely important. i just want to lead us into how this could possibly have not worked in this situation. in the specific situation of arriving at reagan national and the circling approach, or even the straight in approach to zero one, the circle to 33. the issue here is that the tcas was probably not

probably the tcas was indicating correctly and probably giving warnings. there is an inhibit below 1000ft. the screens would be showing the information. air traffic control is guiding the aircraft and making sure separation is maintained. and this is where it leads into some questions i have regarding the the actual atc communications. and this is not a blame. this nobody in this situation is to blame. this is an extremely busy airport with an extremely high rate of operation, and its procedure and its training that are the downfalls of this situation. things that we have created that are not quite good enough, we need to improve on that. >> right. but just to quickly follow up, would you have expected the communication with the black hawk helicopter from atc to have happened sooner than what we know? and that is it was only around 13 seconds when the atc asked the black hawk

helicopter, do you see this plane? it said yes, request visual separation. that's one of the questions coming out of this. and again, not to blame anyone, but it's just we're trying to wrap our heads around this. >> we need to go through the details. and this is what the investigators will do. they will go through with a microscope. and that's why they're so good at what they do. they get right to the bottom. and while they're doing that, other things are are overturned and other things are discovered as that's happening. i'm glad you're pointing this out, because this is something i noticed also on the radio communications. um, the two aircraft, according to radar information that i have seen because of the circle approach to land on 33 on part of the rj and the position of the black hawk p.a.t. 2-5 coming down the river, they are directly heading towards each other for a quite a period of time. this is when you can lose the other aircraft in the lights of the city beneath you, because they're both at low altitude at this point, so the lighting is starting to

affect and camouflage both aircraft from each other. the the point i'm seeing here is, as the black hawk helicopter moved towards the rj and atc asked, um, do you have the other aircraft? my only thing that i've noticed in my years and years of analyzing and studying aviation and all the things that go with it in air traffic control especially, they have a very special role. we absolutely cannot live without them. and at the same time, a simple word or two added or not added to the communication can make the entire difference of a near-miss. a collision or otherwise. in my opinion, the only thing that and i can't. it's not a criticism. it's not a judgment. it is nothing. it is us examining procedures and training. i would only say if the atc controller was able to say if he had time to get the words out. do you have the rj at

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suggested this morning on truth social that perhaps the black hawk helicopter was flying too high at the point of that mid-air collision. i'm going to read for you exactly what he wrote. he said, quote, the black hawk helicopter was flying too high by a lot. it was far above the 200 foot limit. that's not really too complicated to understand, is it? now, pamela, it's unclear whether the president's post there was based on an official briefing or if this was him offering his opinion on this as he said he was going to be doing yesterday. but it does come. i would like to note, after we after the new york times reported, i should say that the helicopter in the collision on wednesday may have been flying outside of its approved flight path, that it might have been flying at a higher altitude than it was supposed to, and also it might have been at least half a mile off of the approved route. and we also heard from pete hegseth, the new defense secretary, this morning on this, he had suggested that perhaps one of the aircraft was flying at a wrong altitude, but he said this

morning, we don't quite know. now, i do want to be clear here, pamela. there are still, of course, so many unanswered questions about what exactly led to that collision on wednesday. but we have heard donald trump continue to double and triple down on his claims that, i should say, he is making, without evidence that perhaps some of the obama and biden administration's policies and politics, including whether the hiring policies specifically regarding die hiring practices may have played a role in this. we did see the president yesterday issue a presidential memorandum opening an investigation into what the white house was calling the, quote, damage done to aviation safety under the biden administration also specifically says it's going to dig deeper into that claim of whether die hiring practices could have played a role. pamela. >> all right. alayna treene. thank you. we'll be right back.

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